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Is the oil spill God's judgement on the USA?

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I am too mature, Ignatius>>>to continue in this pointless discussion. Maybe another good subject will come about, and we can do it again.
---catherine on 6/11/10

If you are "mature" will you admit that YOU are the one who started this off topic discussion, and that you just might have been wrong? You are misleading others.
---obewan on 6/11/10


catherine:

Both fish (normal fish, as opposed to catfish and seafood like clam and shrimp), and beef are considered clean under old testamtent rules. Under Peter's vision before going to see Cornelius, he saw that all foods were clean.

To turn these around and say that some foods are not acceptable (even though the Bible says they are) is to impose a yoke of man-made legalism, one of the main things that Jesus came to break us free from in the first place.
---StrongAxe on 6/11/10


I am too mature, Ignatius>>>to continue in this pointless discussion. Maybe another good subject will come about, and we can do it again.
---catherine on 6/11/10


"....Pork and beef not good for you!" (Cathrine)

1) Your assertion has no biblical support.
2) Fish can be contaminated with mercury , etc
3) Who said Pork and Beef is not good for you? Perhaps conventional wisdom. Ideally, grass fed beef is better than fetlock beef, but beef overall has many nutrients. By the way, Saturated Fat and Dietary Cholesterol ARE NOT BAD (that is a myth debunked by science, but the myth continues being publicized by vegetarians, etc) (read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes for example). They are GOOD! What is not good for you is grains (whole grains included). Have you study about the Primal Blueprint, backed up reputable sources?

GIVE ME MORE BEEF! :)

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 6/11/10


\\Pork and beef not good for you!
---catherine on 6/10/10
\\

Further proof that for all her claiming to hear from God, catherine knows very little about what the Bible itself actually says.

catherine, cattle are kosher animals, acceptable for sacrifice under the old law (as all the kosher animals were), and beef is acceptable for human consumption under the Old Testament.

Gentiles, btw, were NEVER considered obliged to follow the kashuroth.

**MY GOD HELPS ME.**

And your god is clearly NOT the God of the Bible.
---Cluny on 6/10/10




Would it make God mad if I ate fish caught on a hook bated with bacon?
---Elder on 6/10/10


catherine

is eating pork or beef a sin of commission taught by catholics?

????

isn't fish fillet considered meat also?

????
---mike on 6/10/10


MY GOD HELPS ME. Fish>>>just like other animals fell into two category clean and unclean. Fish with fins and scales wait I have to check something, here. I love you Jesus. Were considered clean animals. And they were very popular Sabbath meal. Unclean fish---catfish, eels, and maybe sharks. The Bible has many references on fish and fishing.....The media, which is run by unbelievers, they are the ones who's always barking about how fat everyone is. And how bad everything is for you to eat. what are you gonna do. Ahhh
---catherine on 6/10/10


But Jesus said it is not what goes in to the mouth that defiles the body, but what comes out. (Mrk 7:15)If our food is sanctified it is not harmful. If our words are sanctified they are not harmful. However, negative words(words of doubt & not faith) destroy the body. I set before you blessing & cursing. Which will you have.
---fay on 6/10/10


But, fish is good for you. Pork and beef not good for you!
---catherine on 6/10/10

Wrong again. Excess pork, beef or just about anything can be bad for you.

You can get mercury poisoning from many types of fish. The FDA says a person can only safely eat tuna one time a week due to mercury levels.

You don't know much about our environment for being the "prophet" you claim to be. Coal has mercury and uranium as well as other toxins. We burn the coal, the poison goes up, comes down in the rain, and the fish pick it up!
---obewan on 6/10/10




Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day,
Genesis 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set [it] before them, and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
Good enough for the Lord, good enough for me.
---micha9344 on 6/10/10


But, fish is good for you. Pork and beef not good for you!
---catherine on 6/10/10


catherine:

So now you're wishing curses upon the beef and pork businesses?

Remember that in Revelation 16:3 every living thing in the sea dies (pity the poor fish), no such extreme fate for land animals. Do you think that God loves fish more than pigs and cows? Or that he ought to do so?

And don't forget what happened with Mad Cow Disease. Look at the panic and damage to the beef industry worldwide caused by a disease that has killed around 200 people worldwide in the past decade (one case in Canada, three on the U.S.). ONE SINGLE TAINTED COW in the United States caused Japan to totally shut off imports of American beef for several years.
---StrongAxe on 6/10/10


Thank you Leon.

Catherine, I refuse to hate you. I love you. I also found it hard to believe. As a matter of fact, the night it happened was not the night I accepted it as truth. However, if I had we may not have experienced the earthquake the next morning. It was really hard to admit. I really do understand Catherine.
---fay on 6/9/10


I love fish. Why couldn't this had happen to the pork business of the beef business. Well? Just wait and see, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. I do wish He would leave the fish alone.
---catherine on 6/9/10


amanda

the cause of the oil spill is GREED.
BP committed many safety violation bec. it will cost millions of $$ in operating expense of the oil rigs. they took short cuts & did not care about the human cost

just like the bailout, it was greed at wall st. & bush used fear that an economic depression will happen so he ask for $700 billion TAXpayer money. paulson want to bailout the banks WITHOUT regulations. result is banks received it & there were bonuses taken by the CEOs. while these bank kicked out those homeowner who cannot pay their mortgage.

LOVE OF MONEY IS ROOT OF ALL EVIL
---mike on 6/9/10


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mima

it is a fumble. BP is concerned about the profits & committed many safety violations

BP earned $6 BILLION IN PROFITS
---mike on 6/9/10


Fay: Praise God for your Godly testimony of a changed life in Christ -- powerful!!!

The fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, long-suffering, faith, meekness & temperance. Yet, Catherine (a self-proclaimed prophetess of God) would encourage you to "hate" her? To say the least, Catherine is definitely confused (has some serious issues that only fasting, prayer & the love of God thru the Body of Christ can cast out). I pray all blogger will continue to "lovingly" confront Catherine with the truth of God's word.
---Leon on 6/9/10


fay, you are from the devil, and I do not want Satan nor his followers loving me. I have a Blood bought testimony. What is yours? You do not have one. Hell will be most hot for you.... Were you one of the fools who voted in this dictator? If so, thanks a lot, because of you, God's judgment is upon this nation. Please hate me, it tells me that I am doing a great job for my Lord. Ha.
---catherine on 6/9/10


Catherine, I have been trying to love you into the truth. You are right in many ways. You are also wrong in many ways. I love you. I see in you what I used to be. You are operating in the spirit of Ahab & Jezebel. The Holy Spirit is not sarcastic like that. You must demand that they leave & you need to take a break until you know they are gone. Seek help from a trusted pastor if you need to. I had the same attitude until one day in service a pastor was talking about Ahab & I heard, "That's me! And she thinks I'm God!" It didn't take me long to start casting them out. The trick is to bind confusion constantly, then wait on the Holy Spirit. I know this isn't easy to believe, but please trust me on this one. I love you.
---fay on 6/8/10


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\\If God tells me face to face it does not deserve an answer, I am more than happy to oblige Him. God supports me not the wicked man. \\

IF--yeah, but He doesn't.

Remember, He told Moses that NOBODY can see His face and live.

I know you want us to think you're just a little bit special, but we're not buying it.

You don't speak in the Spirit, catherine. You're doing no more than speaking in yourself--or worse.
---Cluny on 6/8/10


Peter I do not work to please you. If God tells me face to face it does not deserve an answer, I am more than happy to oblige Him. God supports me not the wicked man. Wake up you will see. No support for the wicked man. Ha, Ha, Ha. He. No where. NO HOW. By the way, Peter, does God love you enough to save you from hell? If so, give us your testimony.
---catherine on 6/7/10


Catherine: '"Tell them, that does not deserve an answer".

I do not know what exactly does not deserve an answer..... but if you look carefully in the Bible, there are a lot of questions answered by God that indeed do not deserve an answer

I strognly suspect that you r comments about God are problematic, Catherine, as is the obvious hate in your comments
---peter3594 on 6/7/10


"And the sea became like the blood of a
dead man and every living creature died."
Revelation. God is judging america.
---Michael on 6/6/10


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"God's judgement?" Most people see this disaster as an isolated incident and might think maybe not. There is something here being ignored. The reason oil continues to flow from this well is that the "blow-out preventer" failed, when the rig went down. When they cut/snipped the pipe it should have closed due to more flow or "blow-out", it failed a second time. There are alot of these on wellheads around the U.S. and the world, how many of them WILL fail? God's judgement may be yet to come.
---Cowboy on 6/6/10


Well, I have heard from God and He said, "Tell them, that does not deserve an answer".
---catherine on 6/6/10


\\That's Bible folks. It's in there somewhere.
---catherine on 6/5/10\\

For a woman who claims to hear from God all the time, you're amazingly vague about what's in the Bible and where.

And there are different definitions of success. It cannot be denied that Hitler succeeded in most of what he announced he intended to do.
---Cluny on 6/6/10


Catherine -- Once again, "it's in there somewhere" isn't very convincing when you use scripture to make a point. You should locate the scripture as least, quote it if there is space, and note the context (which is OK in the verse you used).
---Donna66 on 6/6/10


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//If you call evil an success you have a problem..There will be no successful people in hell, either. "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul". That's Bible folks. It's in there somewhere.//
---catherine on 6/5/10

Catherine, there is another certain Bible verse, (to which you seem to flippantly refer), that says there will be many successful people who will not be allowed to be around Jesus. That is, prophets, exorcists, and peolpe who do many miraculous tasks in His name, but they are really self-serving workers of iniquity.

That is verses Matthew 7:23 and Luke 13:27.
---aka.joseph on 6/6/10


Cuny>>>If you call evil an success you have a problem..There will be no successful people in hell, either. "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul". That's Bible folks. It's in there somewhere.
---catherine on 6/5/10


//Hitler did not succeed in anything//

Not true...With his mustache, he made a facial hair statement that will never be repeated again unlike mutton-chops, overgrown sideburns, the foo man chu, and that little annoying patch of hair Howey Mandel that lived under his bottom lip.
---aka.joseph on 6/5/10


||Hitler did not succeed in anything||

Yes, he did.


He succeeded in enslaving a very cultured and intelligent people.

He succeeded in killing 6 million Jews and 6 million others just in his death camps, besides those on both sides who died in the war.

**God did tell me this about the oil>>>"you could make some kind of use of this oil"**

Good. What?

Anything definite or concrete?

Did you get any ideas about how to clean it up?

Sorry, catherine, but the real God of the Bible always gives practical advice.

\\. But, indeed a crisis like never before in only five years. \\

Obama's been in office only about 18 months.

So the crisis started BEFORE Obama.
---Cluny on 6/5/10


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Cuny, I was taking notes too fast. I do not usually takes notes when watching news. So, being new at that and not expecting to be a doing it, I may not had gotten everything just right. But, since Obama came into office everything has gotten worse. God did tell me this about the oil>>>"you could make some kind of use of this oil".... I received no answer on the how. I did ask Him. Jesus, I can never quote you exactly from 15 minutes ago. ...The debt is rising at a fast rate of 5 $billion a day. The 2.4 trillion may just be in since Obama came into the office. But, indeed a crisis like never before in only five years. And out national security is most definitely in peril. In other words, in an all time trouble.
---catherine on 6/5/10


Hitler did not succeed in anything....I know in the Bible there were some wicked kings who succeeded for a little while, however, God always brought them down, and furthermore, placed them right smack dab in HELL. And about algada. I did not know how to spell it, But, God said to leave it and I did it. I Always obey my Father.
---catherine on 6/5/10


\\Since Obama has taken office our debt has risen to 2.4 trillion, and it is climbing everyday 5 billion.\\

Of course, the debt started rising under Bush fils.

And the budget was balanced under Clinton.

How does this fit into your assessment of recent presidents, catherine?

\\Cuny>>>right now I am busy just taking it all in....I will tell you this much, this nation is in a whole bunch of trouble. God has the answers, God has His ways.\\

In other words, you have no more idea than the rest of us.

I should think that in such a terrible ecological catastrophe, you might have heard something helpful.
---Cluny on 6/5/10


"The spill is more of a fumble than a judgement."
---larry on 6/4/10

Oil spill is a fumble? If so it is a fumble like no other. This fumble with tumble the United States into economic chaos. The economy is limping along now and this "fumble" will send the economy over the cliff. The loss of the fishing industry in the Gulf is very crippling but, and I fully expect this to happen, when the oil rounds Florida and starts up the East Coast we will see great great hardship for the people of the United States. Since the United States basically keeps the rest of the world from starvation the oil spill will really be a worldwide economic disaster.

---mima on 6/5/10


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Catherine,

What about Hitler? Seem to me, that in his sick terms he succeeded.
---atheist on 6/5/10


God is not going to allow the wicked man to succeed....Since Obama has taken office our debt has risen to 2.4 trillion,.... Algada may take advantage of this.
---catherine on 6/4/10

I hate to break it to you but, debt is 13.1 trillion. You might mean deficit since you don't seem to know the difference between budget deficit and debt.

And, who on earth is "Algada" (sic). That must be some unknown enemy that has not made the press yet. Did God reveal them to you ahead of their attack? LOL
---obewan on 6/5/10


catherine:

Remember that the whole bailout package was first started while Bush was still in office, and its whole purpose was to stop a catastrophic snowball that was caused by Bush's policies. Bush threw the wild party, and Obama had to pay the bill to clean up after him.
---StrongAxe on 6/5/10


God is not going to allow the wicked man to succeed....Since Obama has taken office our debt has risen to 2.4 trillion, and it is climbing everyday 5 billion. In five years there will be a crisis in this, alone. These people are criminals. U.S. HAS A national security risk problem. Economically, yes. a security risk. Algada may take advantage of this. And Obama has told the people in the oil business to go on unemployment. These people earn around 80-100.000$ a year.
---catherine on 6/4/10


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Cuny>>>right now I am busy just taking it all in....I will tell you this much, this nation is in a whole bunch of trouble. God has the answers, God has His ways.
---catherine on 6/4/10


\\Obama will try to sweet talk everything.
---catherine on 6/4/10\\

Meanwhile, catherine, have you been told how we can get the oil spill cleaned up?
---Cluny on 6/4/10


I doubt it. We weren't prepared if something did go wrong, just like how we used to not test our bridges.

I think this just reveals that a lot of Americans or half of them are lazy. Too lazy to be prepared.
---amand6348 on 6/4/10


Thanks Joseph. John's question is interesting but somehow these questions always deteriorate into a debate over President Obama, mostly by those who could never put President in front of Obama.

The right should jettison its piety and condemnation while the left should quit working against moves of the Holy Spirit in the public arena, for the Lord seeks and requires contrite and humble hearts.


As to the question...God put minerals within the earth and its up to us to excavate it responsibly.

The spill is more of a fumble than a judgement.
---larry on 6/4/10


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Or we could get Dumbya back and have things explained to us by a hangover drunk.

Maybe Obama is just to intelligent, too articulate, and too nice? I would like to see him lose it now and then...
---atheist on 6/4/10


catherine

obama took responsibility of the oil spill even though BP was negligent & committed safety violations.

unlike bush, he calls himself THE DECIDER but blamed everybody for HIS MISTAKES.
---mike on 6/4/10


Judgement or not, we do not know

Our job is not to know that, it is to do God's will, praying for oour leaders (n0, Catherine, that IS a Biblical command, so don't try to get out of it!)

Cathrine, hate is not a christian value, though you spend lots o ftime filling Christianet with hate
---Emma on 6/4/10


//We should all trade our politics and religion for a relationship with the living savior.// -larry on 6/3/10

Amen.. or we might cut someone's ear off without warrant trying to prevent the inevitable Truth.
---aka.joseph on 6/4/10


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Obama will try to sweet talk everything.
---catherine on 6/4/10


...I asked God, "Jesus, is this the grave mistake that Obama would make, that you warned me about?".- Catherine.

Catherine please, you have stretched beyond credulity. Christ told you no such thing and you know it.

We are COMMANDED to pray for leaders everywhere but have no faith in man. That includes Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson, Abraham Lincoln, Dubya and yes President Obama.

We should all trade our politics and religion for a relationship with the living savior. God bless.
---larry on 6/3/10


Fortunately, rest does not imply sitting around doing nothing. One can sit around all day and never rest. On the other hand, one can work all day and experience the true rest of God. It is unfair to assume that those who work are working for worldly pleasures. Maybe some of them work to be a greater blessing to not only the body but to those they work with. Now that's a novel idea, isn't it? Paul worked. He was allowed by calling to not work but he refused to be a burden on anyone. That is the heart I look for. Working for just a paycheck is toil and sweat. Working as unto the Lord and to be a blessing to others is rest.
---Linda on 6/3/10


The lesson from to this could be to drill in shallower water or on land....both much safer.
---Donna66

Land maybe, but "shallower" water does not buy much.

At 1000 ft (vs 5000 ft) it is still a very dangerous proposal. It takes a diver over 8 hrs to ascend to avoid death from the bends, and the world record dive is only 1000 ft. Robotic subs would STILL be required, and the same blowout concern would exist with a difficult to cap repair. Only shorter pipe would be required. Likely, closer means more damage from oil.

And, I have worked engineering in oil and gas and have touched offshore rigs and BOP's. You are laying blame where it does not belong with those who had VALID concerns before this disaster.
---obewan on 6/3/10


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The lesson from to this could be to drill in shallower water or on land....both much safer alternatives. Geologists say the oil is there, but...the powers that be are still dead set against it.
---Donna66 on 6/3/10


I wish I had a "reprobate" to keep me and my three little ones, so we could rest.
---aka.joseph on 6/3/10


catherine:

It would be nice to work less hours. Unfortunately, most employers don't give one the luxury of saying "I am only going to work 30 hours this week instead of the usual 40". You either work the full work shift (and sometimes mandatory overtime to boot), or you will likely lose your job.
---StrongAxe on 6/2/10


And another thing, Americans don't get enough rest.----when you don't get enough rest, you cannot think properly. Try working less hour. Do not be so wordily. try doing with less and enjoy more of what you do have. Is very good advice, and a good proverb. Catherine's.
---catherine on 6/2/10


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The U.S. has just approved another offshore well for the gulf.

The Coast Guard has just announced that repair attempts on the oil spill have been exhausted for now and likely the drilling to relieve pressure will not be completed by August because it will be interrupted by storm season.

Big business is not in the habit of using brain power for it's greedy functioning (look up "Lake Pigneur Vortex" at wikipedia and youtube).

Don't blame God for what man does.
---more_excellent_way on 6/2/10


Well, this oil spill is going to make Katrina look like child's place. Come on, listen, Katrina only affected a small amount of people. This oil spill is going to affect the whole U.S. of America and its people. As I have always said things can get worse. "God does hold evil at bay". If He didn't, you wouldn't want to be here, I guarantee it...I asked God, "Jesus, is this the grave mistake that Obama would make, that you warned me about?". He said, "why don't you wait and see all of it". I said, "wellll, this oil spill is enough for me to see". End of quotes....We still do have three more years of Obama. Stay tune.
---catherine on 6/2/10


Whenever disasters befall those we hate, it's all too easy to cry "It's God's judgment against the wicked", while at the same time, when bad things happen to those we love, we say "It's the devil persecuting us". It's always very easy to rationalize after the fact.
---StrongAxe on 6/2/10


Seg -- The government had three hundred pages of regulations for these wells as well as a "plan" to deal with oil spills of this type. Do you know, which one BP did not follow? BP would not intentionally risk such a disaster and the possible bankruptcy of their company due to clean-up and law suits.

The gov. "oil spill disaster plan" called for immediately burning off the oil. But the EPA objected due to "air pollution". People in Louisiana wanted to protect their fragile marshlands by quickly constructing sand berms between the spill and the shore. (Creating a line of artificial barrier islands). The EPA wouldn't allow it because they hadn't submitted an environmental impact statement.
Thank you EPA.
---Donna66 on 6/2/10


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There is plenty of blame to go around. I agree with Catherine, this time.

The important thing is dealing with the problem. We can "arm-chair quarter-back" later. The economy of the gulf coast is shot, and will be into the foreseeable future. The effect is severe enough to give us a double-dip depression if not handled well.
---Donna66 on 6/2/10


Why do we preach? To enlighten the Spirit of those whom God might save. God is most interested in helping His very own people. Unbelievers do not appreciate the living God". He's already given you His Son. What do you do? You curse Him. You test Him. Shame on you, you hypocrites.
---catherine on 6/2/10


Maybe we just ought to ask God's resident judgemental prophet on CN! The answer will be just as ridiculous as the question.
---aka.joseph on 6/2/10

//LETS LETS FIX THE PROBLEM, FIRST!! Instead of looking for vengefulness. You are talking about only a hand full of people. What about this nation. All Americans will be affected. Lets fix the problem and then take your vengefulness and do what ever with it. "What does it do for you to talk so big. make you look powerful, OR SO IMPORTANT. Always wanting to take revenge on others. Look at yourselves. Are you so great"?. God has spoken.....Hallelujah. Thank You Jesus.//


Does this qualify me as a prophet now?
---aka.joseph on 6/2/10


John, a few days ago a great big sinkhole, so deep the bottom could not be seen, swallowed two houses in Ecuador.

Was God judging Ecuador?

If the same thing were to happen to you, or a meteor were to crash into your house, would God be judging YOU?

Or would you simply dismiss it as the devil coming against you?
---Cluny on 6/2/10


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So you say God speaks to you, catherine.

What are you told about how to fix this problem?

We need concrete solutions at this point, not gloriously meaningless generalities as you usually utter.
---Cluny on 6/2/10


LETS FIX THE PROBLEM, FIRST!! Instead of looking for vengefulness. You are talking about only a hand full of people. What about this nation. All Americans will be affected. Lets fix the problem and then take your vengefulness and do what ever with it. "What does it do for you to talk so big. make you look powerful, OR SO IMPORTANT. Always wanting to take revenge on others. Look at yourselves. Are you so great"?. God has spoken.....Hallelujah. Thank You Jesus.
---catherine on 6/2/10


Last month, more rain fell on middle Tennessee quicker than it fell during Katrina. Just go on youtube to see the devastation.

However, nobody here in the Bible Belt suggested God's judgement. But, how many e-mails and articles and postings did I see about Katrina and God's Jugment? oh, and Haiti too.

But, when Chile was hit by a devastating earthquake two months ago, was it not God's judgement? I have not heard anything.

Maybe we just ought to ask God's resident judgemental prophet on CN! The answer will be just as ridiculous as the question.
---aka.joseph on 6/2/10


NO NOT AT ALL

The oil spill affects both the just and the unjust, both the righteous, and the unrighteous. God does not excecute judgment on the just and righteous.
---francis on 6/2/10


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Donna66:

I do think that BP's Gulf of Mexico oil spill WAS "easily preventable".

BP should have used the "backup systems" that are REQUIRED in other countries like Norway. That country hasn't had a spill like that in the Gulf of Mexico. George W. Bush, and/or Dick Cheney, made "backup systems" OPTIONAL in the USA. And what did we get in return? The WORST oil spill in our history.

BP should also have drilled more TEST wells at that undersea depth. Learned more about the drilling environment and problems that might occur. BP simply ignored warning signs from their OWN employees. Executive DENIAL in the "race" for more profits?
---Sag on 6/2/10


I'm not sure it was so "easily preventable". I don't believe anything a mile deep in the ocean is exactly easy. But God's judgement? I really doubt it. I'd say it was a tragic accident.
---Donna66 on 6/1/10


This question has already been asked by mima on another blog just a few days ago.

You can read my answer there, which was posted on 31 May.

May I remind you what Jesus said about such catastrophes in Luke 13?

Modern application: Unless YOU repent, John, YOU will likewise perish.
---Cluny on 6/1/10


God won't judge the USA John, he'll judge individuals...its always individuals.

God didn't make anyone drill through the bottom of the ocean for the blood that is oil and the alter that is money.
---larry on 6/1/10


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I doubt it.

Just from reading the news reports, it sounds more like a situation that people need to learn from.

Parents tell their Children to "take all possible safety precautions": Lifejackets, Seat Belts, Helmets, Drive Slower, Don't Drink & Drive, etc.

The same advice applies to BP and other oil companies now. DON'T skip precautions in the name of higher profits! One slip and you're in big time trouble. That's where BP is today.

God already knows that PEOPLE, everyone, have a lot to learn. Hopefully, BP learns from their easily preventable "accident".
---Sag on 6/1/10


are you john aka pastor jim?

if its god's judgement, then it would be far worst than an oil spill.

are you suggesting that obama is a worstest sinner than bush that's why god is punishing US?

if that is the case 911 2001 was god's judgement bec bush will wage an illegal war in 2003.
---manny on 6/1/10


I had a flat tire once in the middle of nowhere. But twice my timeing belt broke, luckily as I was pulling into my driveway. Once I found a five dollar bill on the sidewalk.

Am I to read in these events some pleasure or displeasure of 'god' regarding my behavior at those times?

Why not ask if it would please 'god' to change out our light bulbs to those using less electricity, but producing the same amount of light? Wouldn't that make us better stewards of his'creation' than nattering about such nonsense as this question?
---atheist on 6/1/10


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