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Why Did Romans Rule Jews

Why did the Romans rule over the Jews in Jesus's day? In other words, why did the Jews go to the Romans to get Jesus crucified? Why didn't they just do it themselves?

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John 18:31 Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death:
John 18:32 That the saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying what death he should die.

Christ fullfilled all biblical prophecy concerning his life and death.

The Romans were in power due to the Jews' disobedience to God.

Higgins mentioned Titus. Titus commanded the temple to not be destroyed, but his soldiers did it anyway, just as Christ had prophesied.
---trey on 11/15/10


When the decendants of the Indians that were bought by the Romans overthrew the Roman rule in the Holy lands {second slaves after the Hebrew slaves} Where did the Romans from Israel go too?
---Migdalia_ on 11/12/10


It wasn't God's will but he allowed it to happen as part of his plan of redemption that ends at the end.

In short, because God allowed it to happen.
---larry on 6/12/10


Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

The Almighty sent the Romans to crush the harlot nation of Israel.

In A.D. 70, Titus, the son of Caesar Vespasian, after destroying Jerusalem said, "There is no glory defeating a nation abandoned by their God."

Even Titus knew that The Almighy had abandoned the Jews. As long as the Jews kept the covenant YaHWeH made with Abraham, they would flourish and be His people.

Instead, the Jews killed His prophets and Son, and thus declared, "Let His blood be upon us and upon the heads of our children." The Almighty responded by granting the Jews their wish, but just before leaving the temple, The Almighty inflicted the harlot Israel with the terror of Rome.
---Higgins on 6/11/10


Why Did Romans Rule Jews, Because of The Jews UNBELIEF
---michael_e on 6/11/10




You sure about that, Donna?...cluny, in response to your question:

1) I know what point you are trying to make. That I'm as much a sinner as those who were there that day who crucified Jesus.

2) But remember, before I was saved and born again, I didn't realize how wretched I was and probably still am. I now know what the Apostle Paul meant when he said he was the least, etc.,

3) Now that I "see the light", I try not to sin on purpose, and I let the Holy Spirit develop the fruit of patience, love, joy, self-control, etc., in me.

So my point is this: I realize I killed Jesus with my sins, but I was blind back then, remember? Weren't you BLIND at some point in your life too? See my point?
---Donna5535 on 6/11/10


\\So who really killed Jesus?
---Donna5535 on 6/8/10\\

Me.

You.

Everybody on these blogs.

Both Jews and Gentiles had to be involved for both to be saved.
---Cluny on 6/8/10

I will add an AMEN to this cluny. Even though the Jews did the actual in person accusing and the Romans did the physical execution, every man, woman, boy or girl ever born is guilty of the death of Jesus Christ. He died for us all.
---tommy3007 on 6/11/10


Both Matthew and John describe the choice of the crown between Christ and Barabbas only in the Greek do you see that both Christ and Barabbas were both named Jesus.

In Pilate's account of Jesus trial to Seneca, the choice is not mentioned. As pilot states that he intended to execute Jesus all along from the time he came back from Syria. He had spies following Jesus and his disciples.

Pilate had nothing good to say about the Sanhedrin as there biggest concern was to get the execution over and Jesus buried prior to sun down when the Passover began.
---Friendly_Blogger on 6/9/10


\\I did NOT kill Jesus and if I were in that crowd that day that Pilot asked who do you want to kill, Barrabbas or Jesus? I would have yelled out Barrabbas's name.\\

You sure about that, Donna?

Matthew 26:

33 Peter answered and said to Him, Even if all are made to stumble because of You, I will never be made to stumble.
34 Jesus said to him, Assuredly, I say to you that this night, before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.
---Cluny on 6/9/10


Strongaxe, beheading wouldn't have worked on Christ as he wouldn't have been lifted up from the earth as the scripture says,
Paul's Roman citizenship is what made him the perfect candidate to take the Gospel, the death burial and resurrection to the gentiles.
---michael_e on 6/9/10




michael_e:

Actually, under Roman law, Roman citizens who earned the death penalty were executed by beheading, which was quick and painless (this is how Paul died, because he had inherited Roman citizenship from his father, and used that fact to appeal an earlied judgment to Caesar).

On the other hand, non-citizens, which included virtually everybody in occupied territories, were executed by crucifixion, which was slow painful torture, usually leading to death by suffocation.
---StrongAxe on 6/9/10


Roman capital punishment was crucifixion, putting a person on a tree. Jewish capital punishment was stoning.
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Psa.2:1-3 explains romans & jews working together to get rid of Jesus.

Peter accuses Israel of murder in Acts 2:36, 3:12-15
Big difference.
Paul tells us Christ died for us. Rom 5:8
1 Thess. 5:10
---michael_e on 6/9/10


Scripture says that the Roman governor Pilate, "knew that the chief priests had delivered him because of envy." (Mark 15:10). The Jews were guilty of Jesus' crucifixion in that they cried out to Pilate, "Crucify, crucify him!" (Luke 23:21). After interrogation, Pilate "took water, and washed his hands in front of the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person, see you all. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children." (Matthew 27:24,25).
---Eloy on 6/9/10


Rome had conquered most (if not all) of the land surrounding the Mediterranean sea, including Egypt, Israel, and other surrounding countries. One of the powers reserved to Caesar was the power of life or death (and this power was also designated to his governors in occupied countries). So to demonstrate Rome's absolute sovreignty over occupied areas, even though local governmenet and law enforcement were generally permitted to fairly autonomous, the death penalty was reserved for Caesar and his governors alone - so if anyone wanted to have someone executed, they had to ask Rome for permission.
---StrongAxe on 6/9/10


Donna, this stanza from the German Lutheran hymn Hertzliebster Jesu should answer your question:

Who was the guilty? Who brought this upon thee?
Alas, my treason, Jesus, hath undone thee!
'Twas I, Lord Jesus, I it was denied thee,
I crucified thee.
---Cluny on 6/9/10


Peter to the men of Judaea, and all the men that dwell at Jerusalem:
Acts2:36 ...let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all (high priests), and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

1Corintians 2:8 None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness,
---aka.joseph on 6/9/10


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Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly, and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it, and it had ten horns.

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,


Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
---francis on 6/9/10


I did NOT kill Jesus and if I were in that crowd that day that Pilot asked who do you want to kill, Barrabbas or Jesus? I would have yelled out Barrabbas's name.

So now I have another question: To those who cried out to SAVE Jesus from being crucified that day, did they know WHY he was going to be crucified? For the sins of the world?

OR did they think it was just because the crowd wanted Barrabas free and Jesus was just another prophet being crucified that day? Did they know??????? is my question.
---Donna5535 on 6/9/10


Both Jews and Gentiles had to be involved for both to be saved. ---Cluny on 6/8/10

saved from what and from whom?

"from the deadly curse of "OUR" [disobedience] (brought into the world by Adam's disobedience in the Garden" ---Leon on 6/8/10 and our allegiance with Satan.
---aka.joseph on 6/8/10


Leon has the best 125 word answer so far and covers most of the bases. This is more of a history question then a religious question so extra-biblical sources are going to give you more incite them scripture. Here are some appropriate references:

The Works of Flavius Josephus -- War of the Jews.

1 - 4 Maccabees in the NRSV with the Apocryphal & Deuterocanonical Books you want a history of the The Maccabean Revolt.

The letters of PONTIUS PILATE

The Romans had a degree of respect for older cultures and granted Palestine more latitude then other conquered people. They could still worship their own God and have their own king but subordinate to a Roman Magistrate.
---Friendly_Blogger on 6/8/10


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It was the "crowds" (people of humanity) who allow subjectivity/bias to replace the independent thought and objective reasoning of the individual that were ultimately responsible for Jesus's crucifixion.

It is humanity's habit to blame SOMEBODY ELSE or 'other group' (such as 'the greedy' and the militant aggressors) for evil, but it is each of us who substitutes artificial/subjective truth ("mob mentality"/pride) for what is genuine and real who are truly responsible. If we pridefully choose to let "mob mentality" overcome our individual spirit, we betray our own humanity.

God's real purpose for scripture is to inform humanity how to be fully human (like a "son of man").
---more_excellent_way on 6/8/10


Praise God & Him only guys! :) Jesus knocked it out of the park -- not me.

Who really killed Jesus?! I DID, you did, ALL OF US did! "Sinless" Jesus, the Son of God, gave His life to atone for & free us from the deadly curse of "OUR" sin (brought into the world by Adam's disobedience in the Garden).

TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY, HONOR & PRAISE -- HALLELUJAH!!!
---Leon on 6/8/10


joseph, funny but it still doesn't answer my next question: Who really killed Jesus?

I'm concerned about this because I am a tad angry that the Jews were being blamed for killing him and all along, the Romans were the ones who put the nails in his hands and feet, so THEY are responsible for Jesus's death, right? Or was it the Jews in theory only?
---Donna5535 on 6/8/10


The Roman army conquered all of the known world in those days and became the seat/origin of justice and strength. The Jews had no jurisdiction of their own, but were allowed to submit their affairs to the state for official state decisions. Jesus was sent to both Pilate, Caesar, and back to Pilate again, but in those 3 times, the state had OFFICIALLY declared Jesus innocent ("INNOCENT" was the OBJECTIVE truth). Since the Zealots and the Jews incited the crowds to riot, it was the crowd's that were ultimately responsible for Jesus's crucifixion (the SUBJECTIVE TRUTH).

God had Pilate ask "What is truth?" so we might learn to distinguish between OBJECTIVE and SUBJECTIVE (John 14:6 and 2 Thess. 2:10).
---more_excellent_way on 6/8/10


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\\So who really killed Jesus?
---Donna5535 on 6/8/10\\

Me.

You.

Everybody on these blogs.

Both Jews and Gentiles had to be involved for both to be saved.
---Cluny on 6/8/10


Leon gets a hit...deep in the gap... rounds first... rounds second... he ain't gonna stop... the third base coach wants to hold him up...but he goes anyway...he slides...and he's safe. the throw wasn't even close!

Inside the park home run for Leon!
---aka.joseph on 6/8/10


Leon, thanks, great explanation.

So who really killed Jesus?
---Donna5535 on 6/8/10


Donna: 1.) The Roman Empire ruled the world of that day. 2.) Scripture prophecy (Is. 53) had to be fulfilled. The Jewish religious leaders initially sought to stone Jesus but failed. Crucifixion wasn't their way of execution. 3.) It was Passover season & they were afraid of causing an uprising amongst followers of Jesus. So, to get the blame off themselves, they went to the Roman Govenor (Pilate) & accused Jesus with plotting a revolt against the Emperor & Rome. Pilate found no fault in Jesus, but the religious leaders were bent on killing Jesus anyway. Pilate offered to free one of two prisoners,thinking perhaps thinking they'd surely choose innocent Jesus over the hardened criminal Barabas. We know the rest of the story...
---Leon on 6/8/10


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