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Hate Not His Father

Please give your idea of what the following verse means.

Luke 14:26,"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

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 ---mima on 6/15/10
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Amen, mima

I do not think He was talking in hyperbole.

I hate myself when I treat my son unfairly compared to the girls, and I cannot expect him to not harbor a little hate for me sometimes.
---aka.joseph on 6/18/10


Whenever I read this scripture Luke 14:26 I am always reminded of how poorly my actions are on behalf of the Lord. And I realize that I do hate my own life(a life of failure to seize the opportunities(for witnessing) to work for the Lord).
---mima on 6/18/10


If Jesus wanted to say love less than he would have said it. As a linguist, I do know that two of the top communicatin devices for middle eastern languages is metaphor and hyperbole.

And, I don't be lieve his message was to hate people. However, Jesus message was radically different than what his forefathers taught in tradition. I believe he was saying hate the tradition of your fathers', mothers' brothers', etc. And, that is backed up by other Scripture just as his message to love was.
---aka.joseph on 6/18/10


The word "hate" it is indeed 'Miseo' which, fully defined, means "to detest (especially, to persecute)", by extension, "to love less".
Defined using the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, copyright 1894
Jesus never has, nor ever will, never instruct any of us to "to detest or persecute" anyone. His message is a message of love. Therefore the words "love less" are more applicable
---josef on 6/18/10


Donna66, I should not have included the rhetorical question in the middle of my main point. It was really an aside.

Separating the gospels of the kingdom and grace, Jesus was addressing the Jews. Many of his sayings were very hard and for a reason. That is why Jesus was always saying something like "you say..., but I say..." Because what he came for and everything he says and doesis such a radical departure from Jewish tradition. So, again, I will repeat me original point

Anyway, Jesus is speaking to the Jews before salvation is unveiled. After salvation, it says he that he who hates his brother is in darkness, a liar, a murderer, ... Why?

[To the Jews] Jesus is saying to hate what [traditionally] He is not.
---aka.joseph on 6/16/10




Of course this is a rhetorical question... one that cannot be taken literally.

God doesn't want Christions going around hating people (when he tells us so often to love our neighbor, our brother, and to respect our parents). And what kind of testimony would it be for a Christian to go around hating his own life? He'd be miserable and people would shun him for his negativity.

But, if you are forced to choose: Jesus or family, Jesus or friends, Jesus or self...the choice should be as clear as if you hated everyone but Jesus.
---Donna66 on 6/16/10


A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for its persuasive effect without the expectation of a reply.
---aka.joseph on 6/16/10


Jesus is speaking to the Jews before salvation is unveiled. After salvation, it says he that he who hates his brother is in darkness, a liar, a murderer, ... Why?

Jesus is saying to hate what He is not and follow what Jesus is...the Messiah.
---aka.joseph on 6/16/10


Rhetorical Question: Why won't the Jews claim that Jesus is speaking to Jews now?

Anyway, Jesus is speaking to the Jews before salvation is unvieled.

After salvation, it says he that he who hates his brother is in darkness, a liar, a murderer, ... Why?
---aka.joseph on 6/15/10

Perhaps they are not Judah?
For those that have ears/eyes.
John 1:11
He came unto his own(Judah),his own received him not.

The other Nations-Ethnos of Israel 11 would have him.
They were brothers by Ethnos and Nation....lost...for a while.
Ezekiel 34:16
I will seek that which was lost,...
(Judah was not lost).
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 6/16/10


Scripture means just this: He is not sincere, he will not be constant and persevering, unless he loves Christ better than anything in this-world.
---catherine on 6/15/10




This verse basicly says that if you love anyone or anything more than Christ, you are NOT truly His. Sometimes your family will ask you to do things that do not line up with the Bible, or even ask you to step away from church, or step away from your calling/destiny. This is NOT of God, and in this case, Christ MUST be obedied first. In this case, you MUST stay in church and stay in your calling/destiny, thus being disobedient to your family, and causing division, and yet being obedient to Christ. Sometimes we will have to be in division from and walk away from our families, and even our own desires to follow Christ.
---Leslie on 6/15/10


//Hate here actually means to choose.//

Hate here and in every other of the 41 occurances means to hate, pursue with hatred, detest (miseo)

Rhetorical Question: Why won't the Jews claim that Jesus is speaking to Jews now?

Anyway, Jesus is speaking to the Jews before salvation is unvieled. After salvation, it says he that he who hates his brother is in darkness, a liar, a murderer, ... Why?

Jesus is saying to hate what He is not.
---aka.joseph on 6/15/10


God is to be first in our life.
---JIM on 6/15/10


It's a typical Semitic (and Mediterranean) hyperbole.

It's also one of those Biblical passages wrenched from its context by people trying to discredit Christianity.

If you read the acts of the early martyrs, however, you will see that the hatred was directed by the non-Christian family members against their Christian relative, who always would act with meekness.
---Cluny on 6/15/10


I believe the point is that once you become a Christian you are engrafted into the family of God.
Mat 23:9 says to call no man your father for you have one father in heaven. He must be first!!!
---fay on 6/15/10


Hate here actually means to choose.
If anyone chooses father or mother sister brother rather than God he cannotbe a disciple of God.
---francis on 6/15/10


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Donna
Very well said.
God Is #1 Priority.
Even though you do love your family members, they can be stumbling blocks.
---Lawrence on 6/15/10


In this case, I think hate means hate. However, I believe it is saying to hate the behavior and not hate the person, and I also believe it is in comparison to Jesus as already mentioned.
---aka.joseph on 6/15/10


I think hate here means "a lesser love."

You gotta love the Lord Thy God with all of thine heart, mind and soul. And love your mother and father and wife and children less than you love God. Why? I guess because God is a jealous God? I'm really not sure, but the scholars on this board can elaborate on this a little more. Thank you.
---Donnna5535 on 6/15/10


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