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BP Oil Spill In Revelation

Doesn't the book of Revelation speak of the sea creatures dying off and poisoned waters? Is this due to the BP oil spill?

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\\While I HATE to say this, you do remind me of the Pharisees
---James on 7/6/10\\

Hardly, James.

catherine is not that spiritually developed to be a Pharisee.

She's simply a medium channelling a lying religious spirit who has deluded her.
---Cluny on 7/28/10


larry -- Your "point" is a bit muddy to me and maybe I'm not alone. I don't throw around the word "government" loosely.. (There are some departments in Government I think are unnecessary and wasteful.)
But 125 words are inadequate for all my opinions and this is not a "political" blog.

There is a BIG difference between government workers in various agencies, and those ELECTED as POLICY MAKERS. I VOTE in every election and pray! If those in power do a poor job, in my view, I WILL complain (free speech, remember). And I've been told "criticism is the highest form of patriotism".

I expect to see more Conservatives in Congress
after Nov. and Obama out of office in 2012.
---Donna66 on 7/7/10


Donna66, you made my point for me, the word "Government" is thrown around like some type of profanity but the wing nuts back off when government is discussed not as an entity but individuals. Government is not a thing its a "we" designed by God as a reflection of his order.

The so-called "decision makers" are "we" who complain instead of vote, who yell instead of pray.
The question is how could Christians who have the power of prayer allow this to happen?

See Genesis 6 for the answer

For us who can bind evil principalities and powers with the power of prayer, blaming "govenment" is the biggest mealy mouth cop out since Pilate.
---larry on 7/6/10


// You really could learn to show more grace.//

Can't share what you haven't received.
---Linda on 7/6/10


Cathrine: I asked you a very simple question, but you are not wiling to answer it.....

If you are unable (or, more likely, unwilling) to answer simple questions, then I am regrettably forced to say that the truth is not in you, and if the truth is not in you, there may wel be a problem between you and God

While I HATE to say this, you do remind me of the Pharisees
---James on 7/6/10




Catherine: from Exodus 20: 'You shall not bear false witness against you neighbour'

You are calling almost everyone here unsaved

It may be time for YOU to repent

If you reject the suggestion without thinking WELL about it, then it is much more likely you need to repent

Blessings
---Emma on 7/6/10


Well, isn't it just wonderful that God talks to only His people, and here is another one>>>All sinners will go to HELL! Bite the dust. Losers. You will see the evidence when you arrive.
---catherine on 7/4/10
On the warpath again I see?

All sinners will not go to hell. Only unsaved sinners will go to hell. And, we are all sinners which is something you fail to grasp.

You are blasting saved Christians telling them they are bound for hell. Anyone who dares to question you is damned by you. You really could learn to show more grace.
---obewan on 7/6/10


Well, isn't it just wonderful that God talks to only His people, and here is another one>>>All sinners will go to HELL! Bite the dust. Losers. You will see the evidence when you arrive.
---catherine on 7/4/10


Catherine: when you so often say (throughout these blogs) that it is God telling you things, will you provide some evidence of that?

Even in the OT and NT, people who said God was speaking to them had to show some evidence

While I do nnot want to dispute that, because it may be true, I think some evidence is in order
---James on 7/4/10


\\If God says he is a dictator, then he is one.\\

If your god says that Obama is a dictator, then He isn't, because you hearken to a lying spirit.

** And I know my God and I know my God's voice.**

I don't know your god, catherine.

I know only the God of the Bible.
---Cluny on 6/28/10




If God says he is a dictator, then he is one. They move slow. He is into everything. Trying to take over everything. In any case God cannot lie. And I know my God and I know my God's voice. As God said to me, "maybe you [people will learn who to vote for the next time".
---catherine on 6/28/10


Catherine: Your accusation of Obama being a 'dictator' is, unfortunately, just a problem because you don't know Enlgish

Look in a dictionary at what 'dictator'actually means, and you will see there is no similarity

You use 'DICTATOR' to mean 'A leader Catherine does not like'

Learn English
---MarkCa on 6/28/10


The story in Rev 16 of the bown that causes the living creatures to die cannot be the oil spill, for we are told that ALL living things in the sea died.

It may be argued that the Rev 16 is an indication that something like the oil spill may cause everything to die, yes, but we cannot be sure so far
---James on 6/28/10


** if you did you would know that God is always right in His predictions,**

But you're not.

Another thing, catherine.

God doesn't predict.
---Cluny on 6/27/10


||In any case I can certainly hear from God because everything is being proven. Ha. You don't know very much, do you, because, if you did you would know that God is always right in His predictions, my friend.||

What you clearly have NOT proven is that the entity you hear from is in fact the God of the Bible.

And since so much of what you say actually contradicts the Bible (such as a previous claim of yours that you mock your "god"), it's clear that you are either mentally or spiritually deluded.

i pray the former, because mental delusion is not your fault.
---Cluny on 6/26/10


Great Panic is coming. This oil leak in the Gulf far from being normal is just the beginning of horrendous things to take place. Am I a doomsday man? I am. Our hour is almost here.
---mima on 6/26/10


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larry -- Are you kidding? Who has anything against //Government workers that drive to work just like us, suffer mortgage foreclosures just like us, send kids to Christian schools just like us...//?
Who on earth have you ever heard complain about these people. Some may be a little envious of their high pay and better than average benefits, as compared to the private sector, but I know of no one who holds that against them.

It's the DICISION MAKERS in government, who increasing refuse to listen to even large percentages of the population, that annoy people. They are not "WE" the people, and seem always to put their own careers ahead of us!
---Donna66 on 6/26/10


For your info, Cuny>>>God already knew that dictator Obama was going to be elected by the people of America. I am just so very glad that God warned me. [He was only making a point and being subtle in it]. In any case I can certainly hear from God because everything is being proven. Ha. You don't know very much, do you, because, if you did you would know that God is always right in His predictions, my friend. The Bible shows us this time and time again. Well, this is the same God who tells me things. and He warns. Ha, Ha. I realize that unless God is telling you things, that it is difficult. But, everything is such a thrill for me, cause I was lost for a lot of years.
---catherine on 6/26/10


**All of you are criminals. All of you. Because, you HAVE broken God's laws, right and right.
---catherine on 6/20/10**

If you say you have no sin, you deceive yourself, and the Truth [Jesus] is NOT IN YOU, catherine.

\\ "If that man gets elected" and Dictator" all quotes from the LIVING GOD\\

Are you saying that the entity you call "God" didn't know if Obama was going to be elected?

As Betsie ten Boom said to her sister Corrie, "There are no if in [the real] God's world."

++Now, I want to know, who are you going to listen to, GOD or man?++

It's never going to be you, catherine.
---Cluny on 6/25/10


We have a lot of troubles folks, we are in so much troubles, folks. Too many people in government - Catherine.

Even more scary Catherine is the folly that some believe government is not us.

Government workers in agencies that drive you crazy drive to work just like us, suffer mortgage foreclosures just like us, send kids to Christian schools just like us, take trips to Disney, watch football, fret over aging parents and schedule annual breast and prostate exams just like us.

The biggest fallacy about American government is the lie that government is "they"
---larry on 6/21/10


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Alan of UK--//Why is there no outcry that the AMERICAN company that owned and operated the rig has just paid a full dividend to its shareholders?//

No reason to cut dividends, unless somebody sues them. Or,instead of cutting dividends, they could sell assets as BP is doing.

Understand that Washington is all about politics. The administration expects to gain voters by publicly defaming BP and humiliating BP's officers on TV. This is to convince people that they are sympathetic to those in that region, since they've done little to actually help. It also allows them to avoid mention of American companies that might share the blame.
BUT,sadly, it ALSO discourages other foreign
companies from wanting to do business with us.
---Donna66 on 6/21/10


I like to listen to God, and despite the fact that you won't be quiet or say anything of value, I can hear him anyway.
---akajoseph on 6/20/10


I find it odd that He doesn't give you details or paint you big posters. He was very detailed with the Old Testament prophets.
---Linda on 6/20/10


God does not write me a book. God does not paint me a great big poster.
---catherine on 6/20/10

So what are you saying? Are you a tarrot card reader? You might as well be since you are talking out of both sides or your mouth. On one hand you claim literal revelation, and now you say on the other hand it is vague. You are only serving to intensity our doubts.
---obewan on 6/20/10


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God does not write me a book. God does not paint me a great big poster.
---catherine on 6/20/10


catherine--
"If that man gets elected" and Dictator" all quotes from the LIVING GOD.
What's the quote? Quoted from where?
I may well agree, but can't tell if I don't have a complete sentence.
---Donna66 on 6/20/10


Why is there no outcry that the AMERICAN company that owned and operated the rig has just paid a full dividend to its shareholders?
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/20/10


All of you are criminals. All of you. Because, you HAVE broken God's laws, right and right.
---catherine on 6/20/10


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We have a lot of troubles folks, we are in so much troubles, folks. Too many people in government wants to take over. And seizing on every crisis to pass wrong legeslation.....Jesus really knows what He is talking about! "If that man gets elected" and Dictator" all quotes from the LIVING GOD. Now, I want to know, who are you going to listen to, GOD or man?
---catherine on 6/20/10


catherine, are you part of the 2/3 that should be locked up? You know some are jailed for mental conditions. There are very few who are jailed because they are innocent.
---Elder on 6/20/10


Perhaps the Congressman who apologized felt as I do. I'm angry, too, and want BP to fully pay for the damage their actions caused. But (call me an old fogey) I'm ashamed that Congress has no more dignity than to dress down people personally and publically, who are not criminals, puposely humiliating them for the TV camera and obviously enjoying it.
Do they think that is going to help somehow?
If you want people to co-operate with you, you don't treat them that way.
---Donna66 on 6/19/10


\\So many people are locked up that shouldn't be. They should let about 2/3 of the prison population out, and lock up about 2/3 of the people in this country. The wrong people are being locked up, while the real criminals are going free....
---catherine on 6/19/10\\

catherine, can you give us the actual NAMES of anyone who is unjustly imprisoned?

Or actual NAMES of criminals at large?
---Cluny on 6/19/10


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You know you made a good point, especially, on the unborn....Something else I have been wanting to say, larry, and I'll say it here. So many people are locked up that shouldn't be. They should let about 2/3 of the prison population out, and lock up about 2/3 of the people in this country. The wrong people are being locked up, while the real criminals are going free....
---catherine on 6/19/10


Catherine- the shameful behavior of those in leadership has more to say about our lack of biblical wisdom and discernment as people than some political snowball fight.
You're speaking of oil-soaked in contributions Joe Barton and his pathetic apology to BP.
The right has become the G O B P and worships at the alter of oil, while the left cares more about a stupid Pelican than the unborn. Shameful.
I can't understand the point of President Obama's speeches and not even Bill O'Reilly can make sense of Sarah Palin's idiotic rants.
Today we find out BP has 750 violations to Exxon's 1.
Oh, for the wisdom of Solomon and the integrity of Moses!
---larry on 6/18/10


Larry,

So your solution to the problem of presenting a coherent and sensible description of you beliefs, is to put me on ignore.

You are made in the image of your god, ostensibly omnipotent but completely unable to communicate in an understandable way,---and so you say nothing.
---atheist on 6/18/10


That's why they don't get lost flying north and south. You see, nature teaches there is a God.
---Elder on 6/18/10

Actually, the reason they don't get lost when flying is because their brain has been proven to have a chemical magnet built in. It is like a built in compass. I think it will show up on an MRI or whatever.

But, you could say that God designed them that way, but Atheist will say that that is how they evolved.
---obewan on 6/18/10


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Elder, quit wasting your time. While there is blog ettiquette to be followed we have gone past Luke 9:5 and must shake the dust off our feet and move on.
Spreading division, doubt and willfully working against the works of the Holy Spirit is a serious matter and its time for a rebuke and to move on from those who not only opposed God but encourage others to do likewise. You can't argue anyone into salvation.
There is no discussion and dialogue because we have no common ground in truth. Let him engage himself.
NO response will force first violent verbal genuflection and then self-reflection.
---larry on 6/18/10


atheist I didn't say moths were seeking God. I said the knew God. So do geese. That's why they don't get lost flying north and south. You see, nature teaches there is a God.
Don't worry about murdering a moth. You have more important things to worry about. Like your beliefs causing you to live on the only paradise that you will ever know.
PS. I am living in the only hell I'll ever know.
---Elder on 6/18/10


Elder,

Of course the explanation of a moth seeking the light since often it burns itself up by its misnavigation.

But moths seeking god? Are they trying for salvation, heaven and everlasting life? If they are then the must be intelligent to the point that we should not murder them, for fear of hell.
---atheist on 6/18/10


"Thus moths are confused by a false beacon such as a street light as you are by your personal intrpretations of a confusing and uninterpretable scripture..."
atheist
I do expect you to look but not see. It is you who is following a false beacon. The beacon of your darkened mind that had dictated to you there is no God. If your concept was true you would not be here trying to "prove" it.
You will become a believer either before death or after. It is up to you. That is a predictable prediction.
It is amasing that you know so much about moths. Great minds think alike I guess. Remember the moth believes God. That is why he seeks the light.
---Elder on 6/18/10


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Catherine: Talk about gagging on gnats about the capitalization issue when referring to God. Atheist is using what is linguistically correct to him, as he does not believe in God. And, if you don't already know it, not capitalizing God, or references to Him is not even mentioned in scripture.

Based on what you posted, if Atheist does start capitalizing God's name, would that mean he is saved and heaven bound to you?
---Trish9863 on 6/18/10


Elder, no I am comparing you to the moth.

Moths are not attracted to the heat of the light but the light itself, confusing it with the moon which they use as a navigational aid.

Thus moths are confused by a false beacon such as a street light as you are by your personal intrpretations of a confusing and uninterpretable scripture...
---atheist on 6/18/10


Elder,
And of course a street light has an entirely different meaning to a moth.
---atheist on 6/17/10
Are you relating yourself to a moth now?
Moths are drawn by the heat and not the light. I do understand why you would use them.
---Elder on 6/17/10


Well, I don't know about all of that, but, today a congressman apologized to BP and then he later took the apology back. I don't think that I have ever heard of someone apologizing and then taking it back! Have any of you people ever heard such a thing, before?
---catherine on 6/17/10


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I don't know who Fred Phelps is, but if he is a "marshmallow roaster", I don't want to know him. I herald the sound of a merciful God and a loving Father.
---Linda on 6/17/10


Elder,

And of course a street light has an entirely different meaning to a moth.
---atheist on 6/17/10


Linda:

Unfortunately, there are many people who call themselves Christians, but rather than weeping over people going to hell, they chortle with glee and bring marshmallows. Fred Phelps is one of the more notorious recent examples.
---StrongAxe on 6/17/10


atheist, there is clarity in Scripture. It is just like a street light on a dark road. It means nothing to a blind man.
God has given the perfect reference point as you say. It was the ressurection of Christ. If that was not enough for you then nothing else will be either. The Revelation is very clear also when you can see the rest of Gods Word.
You are one that seeks another special event. You want to wait until then to accept Christ. What God has already wrought is not good enough for you. You would wait until the last moment if He were to send another sign. You say , "God show me and I'll believe you." God says, "Believe me and I'll show you."
Guess what? He is still in charge no matter if you believe or not.
---Elder on 6/17/10


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Spiritual must be compared to Spiritual. The understanding of the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ (not the revelation of the anti-christ) is seen in the light of the other 65 books. There is a blessing and a warning in the book of Revelation. The blessing is, "Blessed is he who reads and understands the words of this prophecy." The warning is, "If you have no understanding, don't try to count the number of the beast. You will not count God's way." The number of the beast is the number of a man and that number is 666. Six is one short of the glory in spirit, one short in soul, and one short in body....and that describes Adam in the fall (and is the reality of all those who are still in him).
---Linda on 6/16/10


Catherine, you are the only believer I know who appears to take some fiendish delight in sentencing people to hell.
---Linda on 6/16/10


Today, I submitted a question about Paul and his quoting of Scripture. Instead we get yet another blog on the oil spill....this is the third blog question about the oil spill. We need more!

I wonder if there are any women out their who want a divorce? We never get that kind of question.
---aka.joseph on 6/16/10


atheist>>>why are you so interested in the true God when you don't even spell His name with a capital-G. And also, you are to spell His with a capable H when referring to the true God? Feed on this: He sent upon them His burning anger, fury and indignation and trouble, a band of destroying angels [Ps. 78: 49]. Atheist, it's like this, All stand under God's sovereign control as He directs human affairs.
---catherine on 6/17/10


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The idea that the two are connected are possible, but not likely.

If you read all of the revelation story, there are many parts ofhte Rev story that have not occured

Of course, many things in Revelation sound very similar to many things that occur now, but it does not mean that ARE the same, just that they sound similar
---peter3594 on 6/17/10


If god is omnipotent, then he certainly should have seen the confusion that would be wrought by the book of revelation. This blog question is but just one example. So why wouldn't god give us some good reference points, like so many years after man landed on the moon, or the first atomic bomb. Why would he, being omnipotent and omniscient, not provide clarity in his scripture?
---atheist on 6/16/10


Yes, oh my goodness, Higgins, good point. "Who are we to judge God, who, who, who are we to judge God". Hallelujah.
---catherine on 6/16/10


NO, in terms of oceans the Gulf is but a pond.

Ralph, I think the stuff in Revelation is so bad its beyond our definition of horror. We've seen nothing yet compared to the desperation of the unsaved who will realize their error but the season of the Gentiles offering repentance would have passed.
It will be sad as those lost souls suffer eternally in Hell.
Satan, the savior of atheists, will turn on his own followers in glee. It will be horrific as the pit is first opened wide and then shut oermenently.
Pride is the ultimate self-sentence to suffering.
---larry on 6/16/10


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Dear Atheist:

Why would The Almighty need to mention British Petroleum in Holy Scripture in order to maintain His Omnipotency? Our Heavenly Father does not need to prove anything to anyone. In fact, there are many things that The Almighty could have said, but chose not to say. Who are we to judge The Almighty or bring Him into question? The Father, in His wisdom, gave us all we really need to know. Best wishes.
---Higgins on 6/16/10


That's a good question, atheist. The answer is no> A lot that was never recorded in the Bible. God is not going to give out all He is going to do to the wicked, because then the wicked would be too prepared. Haaaa. You had better get saved you never know when God may strike you down. Nation, too. Ahhh.
---catherine on 6/16/10


If god is omnipotent wouldn't British Petroleum be mentioned by name in scripture?
---atheist on 6/16/10


This tragic event has nothing to do with the Revelation event. The following reasons prove it is not caused by the BP oil spill.
Rev 8:10-11:
1. It is a great star that will do the damage.
2. It falls from heaven.
3. It falls during the Great Tribulation.
4. It will affect fresh water also.
5. It is not a gradual event.
6. When the star strikes 1/3 of the waters will be made bitter not oily.
7. This event will be announced by an angel sounding a Trumpet.
8. We are not in the Great Tribulation yet.
There is more to prove this is not the Revelation event. God may be using this to show a bit of what's coming.
Read Matt 24:44.
---Elder on 6/16/10


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There has been at least one other blog here trying to find apocalyptic significance and fulfillment in the Gulf oil spill.
---Cluny on 6/16/10


The BP oil spill is not for told in Revelation or any where else. Besides Oil spills there are periodic natural events that cause Red Tide fish kills as well a problems after tidal waves and underwater volcanic eruptions. When the water recedes back after tidal waves all the thing it encountered on land go back into the water and cause fish kills. Under water volcanoes release sulfur and they cause fish kills and remember that all of the events ale local not world wide in scope.
---Friendly_Blogger on 6/16/10


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