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\\Then why was it necessary for Jesus to leave his post in heaven and come down here die? \\

Actually, until His incarnation in the womb of the Virgin, the Logos was NOT called Jesus.
---Cluny on 7/10/10


Amen Cluny!!!!
Before Christ came in bodily form he was not the son.
He was the Word of God. That is what John tells us.
There is nothing made that the Logos did not make.
Jesus was fully God and fully man. He was Both!
---miche3754 on 7/11/10


Scott,
Please remember, I Cor. 12:3 "no one can say that Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit". The Bible shows the Holy Spirit has emotion, will and intellect. So He is a Person, but if one only regards Him as an active force, they not only run the danger of blaspheming Him, Matthew 12:31-32 for which there is no forgiveness, but they can also never understand that Jesus is Lord/Yahweh/Jehovah. Genesis 19:24 (New World) shows that there are two persons who are Jehovah. Isaiah 44:6 shows these two Jehovahs speak as one God in unity.
Ernest 1
---Ernest on 7/11/10


Cliff, why don't you just go ahead and explained it to all of us who do not understand as you do. Since you are so smart about the things of God, go for it. Since I hear you reject everything given to you, why don't we just hear what you have to say about the plan of God and why He does what He does.
---Mark_V. on 7/10/10


\\Then why was it necessary for Jesus to leave his post in heaven and come down here die? \\

Actually, until His incarnation in the womb of the Virgin, the Logos was NOT called Jesus.
---Cluny on 7/10/10


Huh?

///Char, Isa.9.6. "mighty god" (not almighty) YHVH.///

Do you see Jesus as a god but not Might God?

Mighty God-Everlasting Father-Prince of Peace-Wonderful Counselor--

Now all All these are going to be changed to mean something else too---?

Jesus was the Word of God that became flesh.
The man called Adam was not.

Jn1:1
Child name shall be called Everlasting Father-Is9:6-Immanuel-God with us.

Where is it in scripture this is said regarding the Man called Adam?

Am I the only one here that see's this?
---char on 7/10/10




///These words youre reading right now.
Who are they from isnt it me?
---TheSeg on 7/10/10///



Amen-Brother.
---char on 7/10/10


God is God.
All Glory goes to Him because it is Him-His Word will not return to him void----

Doesn't this mean it will return to him-without void?

He opened His mouth and spoke-
before the Word came out-spring forth-yatsah-weren't they still within HIM-origin?

Aleph is silent-Bet is not-
His face was hidden-now it isn't.
The Word of God-spoken-became flesh.
Jesus is the face of God-the face of His glory.

And yes we can go on and on with this-until eternity-everlasting-etc....
It still stays the same.
God is God eternal-His Word is truth-He witness of Himself-olam forever-He alone can confirm it-He alone knows it-the only door to Him is through His Word everlasting-Qedem - you enter or you don't.
---char on 7/10/10


Scott, Q. 2 and 3-no.

Words and phrases have meaning only in context. Out of context= pretext! The NT, says Jesus is the uncreated Creator of everything-eternal.

In context read Micah 5:2 (part) "...out of you shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel, whose goings forth (or origins plural) have been from of old, from evelasting.

Read in the context of Scripture's flow, 'he' is eternal, therefore God. Also the 2 combined phrases "from of old, from everlasting" mean eternal in Hebrew.

In context Mowtsa'ah obviously does not mean 'origin' as in created!
---Warwick on 7/10/10


The Word goeth forth-yatsa- and does not return void-Is55:11

One God-Beginning to End.
---char on 7/10/10


Deu 10:17a For the LORD your God [is] God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God(El), a mighty(gibbowr)...(Jehovah)
Neh 9:32a Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty(gibbowr), and the terrible God(El)...(Jehovah)
Isa 9:6b The mighty(gibbowr) God(El)...(Jesus)
Isa 10:21b the mighty(gibbowr) God(El)...(Jehovah)
Jer 32:18b the Mighty(gibbowr) God(El)...(Jehovah)
Deny the Christ all you want. The truth stands.
---micha9344 on 7/10/10




Char, Isa.9.6. "mighty god" (not almighty) YHVH.
Since He is responsible for saving your life He, in effect becomes your Father (life giver) True the woman bears you but through antiquity the father has always been the life giver!
It's general consensus that Jesus' miracles point to His Divinity!
You're saying Jesus and Adam were not "equals?" Then why was it necessary for Jesus to leave his post in heaven and come down here die? Could God not just have created another Adam and have him killed?
(I could explain but too limited in space) Your understanding is....?
---1st_cliff on 7/10/10


///Char, Rom5.12-14 (Adam)
As for Jesus' super powers and miracles,which you indicate was a proof of His Divinity ///

Thanks for you reply...To my understanding-
Where did I say this was proof of His Divinity?

distinguished differences between the two-
The Word became flesh.....unto us A Child is born His name shall be call Everlasting Father-Mighty God-Wonderful counselor.....
Is9:6-Jn1:1-Mat1:10(referrences only to Christ-Jesus.

This was not inference to the Man called Adam in Genesis-
Only to Yeshua-Immanuel God with us Mat1:20-23.
One does not equal the other-both flesh-but not equal.
---char on 7/10/10


When I first thought of Christ as a son of God, I cried.
Only because, I said to myself, at lease there was one.
One child born on earth that knew and loves his father, who God look at and was proud of.

Yes! I cried and became proud of the earth!
For at least there was one!
So, I understand you!

I had a dream in this dream there was a baby crying. As he cried he would say over and over again. Why dont they love me? Why dont they love me?

I dont see anything wrong in you believing.
What you do, Mat12:30 !
But Cliff, why just one?

These words youre reading right now.
Who are they from isnt it me?
---TheSeg on 7/10/10


I agree with Warwick-
Excellet point-I'm Thinking
Not only would 'bRa' be used but also yatsaR-for Form.
Root word for yatsa-a long with the letter definition is..spring forth-an action and hebraic perspective-the Word came out of the mouth of God-it's origin from within.
Gen2:5...And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew...
vs 7 and the Lord Formed man of the dust...

The Word of God springs forth out of the mouth of God-this we are told.
---char on 7/10/10


Warwick and Scott-
you both are making good points-
Enjoying your posts-Encourage some agreement-just a thought.
---char on 7/10/10


The Seg, You have no difficulty believing that Jesus is/was God's Son.Right?
My son is a human,not an animal or an angel! simply because I cannot produce a different species!
My dog had pups (no other choice)
My lovebird had baby lovebirds (no other choice) you follow me so far?
God (begot) a Son could He be anything less than a "god" as well??
Since they acted/act in "unison" as one rightly there are no other gods formed!
Paul said "there are gods many and lords many" but they are manufactured!
---1st_cliff on 7/10/10


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No use in getting all long winded here....he is OMNIPRESENT....period.
---larry on 7/10/10


Char, Rom5.12-14 (Adam)
As for Jesus' super powers and miracles,which you indicate was a proof of His Divinity.
Before Jesus received Holy Spirit ,at His baptism He performed no miracles (meanwhile 30 years passed) "water into wine" is universally reputed to be hi 1st miracle.
So you see it was not Christ's power but Holy Spirit that Jesus commanded that does awesome things!
He had to get permission from the Father for certain things.
Without H.S. he was a perfect man equal to Adam!
---1st_cliff on 7/10/10


Warwick,

3 simple questions:

1. What is the meaning of the Hebrew word Motsaah?

2. When God 'brought forth (yatsah) the grass..." (Gen 1:12) did the 'grass previously exist in eternity?

3. When God said "Let the earth bring forth (yatsah) the living creature..." (Gen 1:24) did the 'living creature' exist previously in all eternity?
---scott on 7/9/10


\\Cluny
Im sorry, was I not clear?
What I am saying is as follow\\

I get what you're saying now.
---Cluny on 7/9/10


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Cluny
Im sorry, was I not clear?
What I am saying is as follow:
People somehow are saying that Christ was not god.
Ok, let say Christ was just a man. You see my point now!

1st_cliff say to: Beside me there is no savior!
Again ok its a (corporate) He provided His Son!
God can do that! He the boss, right!

But, God told Isa 43:10
Before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me!
Now if this is a lie that one thing. Well, then we can forget the bible!

But, if this is true and Christ was just a man, you see my problem.
How can Christ close that door? No man can close it!
By this alone!
---TheSeg on 7/9/10


Where in is written the Second Adam-Jesus Christ is equal to the Adam- the First?

The First Adam was not the Word of God in Flesh.

And the Word became Flesh and dwelt amoung us.
Is9:6
And His name shall be called Everlasting Father,Mighty God, Wonderful Counselor.....

Where Does God say this about the Man called Adam in Genesis?
---char on 7/9/10


According to The Word in Flesh.
Yeshua-
Jn5-14-15-16
I can of Mine own Self do nothing:as I hear, I judge: and My judgment is just,because I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the Father Which hath sent Me.If I bear witness of Myself,My witness is not true....
Jn8:14...Though i bear record of Myself,[yet]My record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go,but[ye]cannot tell whence I come and whither I go....
vs 18 i am on that bear witness of Myself, and the Father That sent Me bearth witness of Me....Ye neither know me, nor My Father, if ye had known Me,ye should have known my Father also.
Jn17:21

That they all may be one as [thou], Father,[art] in Me, and [i] in thee....
---char on 7/9/10


Scott if God desired to show Christ was created He would use 'bara' (Genesis 1:1), 'yatsa' ' (Genesis 1:24),'asah' (Genesis 1:26) or 'yalad' (Micah 5:3.) God used 'yalad' in 5:3. Had He also used 'yalad' (to bear, bring forth, beget.) in 5:2 you would be correct! In fact had God used any of these words above there would be no argument.

But He didn't, as you attest, He used 'mowtsa'ah' (plural-origin, place of going out from.) This is why the KJV and other Bibles use 'goings forth'-plural. The NIV uses 'origins' plural. If as you say this word refers to Christ's 'origin' then it being plural means you claim He had more than one creation!

As well as this "from of old, from ancient times' means from eternity.
---Warwick on 7/9/10


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Scott, you base your claims upon one word. However the whole of Scripture tells us who Jesus is.

Isaiah 44:24, 45:18-Jehovah is the only Creator. However Colossians 1:16,17 shows Jesus is this Creator, maker of all things in both heaven, and earth! He is not created because He existed before all (created) things. Plus it is by Jesus' power all things "hold together."

I could stake my claim regarding Jesus' divinity, solely upon this one Scripture, but do not have to because I have all of Scripture!

Isaiah 43:11, 45:21-Jehovah is the only saviour however 2 Timothy 1:10 says Jesus is our saviour.

Isaiah 44:8-Jehovah is the only rock. But 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 clearly says "that rock was Christ."
---Warwick on 7/9/10


\\Christ Speaking!
Rev3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

Can Christ shut this door?
So, is he just a man?\\

TheSeg, if you look at verse 7 of the same chapter, Christ Himself says He indeed SHUTS and opens.

Whether Christ WILL shut the door of 3:8 is debatable, but not the truth that he CAN shut it.
---Cluny on 7/9/10


Warwick,

'Qedem'

'Qedem' is used 87 in the Hebrew scriptures it is rendered (in the AV) as 'east' 32 times, 'old' 17 times, 'eastward' 11 times, 'ancient' 6 times, 'east side' 5 times, 'before' 3 times, 'east part' 2 times, 'ancient time' 2 times, 'aforetime' 1 time, 'eternal' 1 time, etc.

Whereas 'Motsaah' comes from the primitive Hebrew root 'yatsah'. This word (meaning 'to go or come out of') is used extensively in the creation account. For example:

"And the earth brought forth (yatsah) grass..." Gen 1:12

"God said Let the earth bring forth (yatsah) the living creature..." Gen 1:24

Motsaah means origin, springing forth and it applied to Christ at
Micah 5:2.
---scott on 7/9/10


1st_cliff
You are very clear in saying he look to the father!
But, are you saying he was just a man?
Because, there are things in the bible, that clearly show he was not just a man!

Joh3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Christ Speaking!
Rev3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

Can Christ shut this door?
So, is he just a man?
---TheSeg on 7/9/10


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The Seg,
God created heave and earth..no question!
He is the God of all human fathers
"I change not"..change of mind? change of purpose? change of status??
There are many gods (but He didn't make them) Psl.82.6.
Beside Me there is no saviour (this is corporate) He provided His Son!
1st Jn.5.7 "one"...one what?? one person?, one God?? One in unity??
Scripture goes even further and says my wife and I are "one flesh" but we are not the same person!!
Jn.10.35.referrs to the law!(foot notes)
---1st_cliff on 7/9/10


Char, Humans were not created to die,Adam forfeited this for all humanity having sinned before he had offspring!
Jesus died so that we might live.."basic"!Jn.3.16..."might not perish but have eternal life"
Death is not "natural" for us.
Every day we shed millions of cells,every day we form new cells..over a 7 yr. period we have a completely renewed body.
Problem is ..the curse of death =we shed more cells than we make,preventing us from continued life past a given period!
God will remove this curse ,thanks to Christ's sacrifice and man will live forever (as was His original purpose)
---1st_cliff on 7/9/10


Cliff has made some good points in his answers.

I agree with Cliff on the scriptural teaching that Jesus was the equal of the 'first Adam'- Jesus being the 'last Adam', or second perfect man from Adam. Jesus thus 'corresponds' directly to the 'first Perfect Man' Adam. 1 Cor.15:45, 1 Tim.2:5,6.

The 'last Perfect Man' (Jesus Christ) needed to show that a perfect man can remain loyal to God under test and that Adam was wrong in disobeying God. Jesus answered these questions in a most resounding manner, thus providing a basis for the deliverance of faithful mankind from Adamic sin and death. Jo.3:16, Heb.9:12.

AlmightyGod cannot die as He is eternal. Christ however died for our sins and was raised up by God. Romans 10:9.
---David8318 on 7/9/10


Cliff,
are you saying Jesus Christ, the second adam came to give the lost eternal life in the flesh as immortality for human-beings?
Human beings living forever?

///Adam" (who lost the possibility of humans living forever)///

just trying to understand-thanks.
---char on 7/9/10


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Jesus was the "express image of the Father" not the Father Himself,if you remember He prayed to His and our Father!
Being a God clothed in flesh would not be equal to Adam and therefore be "over kill"
Jesus was called the 2nd Adam, Adam was not a god!

This is the very basis of Christianity, that Christ gave His life in exchange for "Adam" (who lost the possibility of humans living forever)
He bought it back for us!
The price was a "perfect life-for-a-perfect life"
Not a spirit for man
nor a god for man...man for man!
---1st_cliff on 7/9/10


1st_cliff ??
Gen1:1
God created heaven and the earth
Exo3:6
Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father
Mal3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not
Isa 43:10
Before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me
Isa 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me there is no saviour.

(even without this!)
1Jn 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
--
But, if you ask me, if God has a son!
I would have to say, yes! He does!
God now has lots of children.
And its all because of him, alone!
Joh 10:35 The scripture cannot be broken!
---TheSeg on 7/8/10


Cliff as shown many times before 'incarnate' simply means 'in the flesh.' See 1 Timothy 3:16, John 1:14, Colossians 2:9 for example. Do you imagine we have poor memory and have forgotten such things?

Incarnate is just a simple way of expressing "the word became flesh, God manifest in flesh, God in human form" One word to express a reality.
---Warwick on 7/8/10


Micha9344,Thanks but no thanks I don't need your help (you're as confused as the rest of the fundamentalists)
Cluny, You lose sight of the basics here,IE Jesus came to buy back what Adam lost. Adam was not 1/2 man 1/2 god but a total human.(by being perfect,no descendant of his could "ransom" us,as he lost "perfection"
Jesus was born a "perfect" human (not more,not less) Christ, who left everything in heaven,except His personality,which was transferred to Mary's womb!
If he was a spirit clothed in flesh, humans could not kill Him!(we would still be lost!)
---1st_cliff on 7/8/10


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\\Cluny, OK have it your way, just show me where it says "incarnate" in the bible, since you're sticking with bible terminology!
---1st_cliff on 7/8/10\\

I did. John 1:14

The words "made flesh" and "incarnate" are synonyms, as any dictionary will tell you.
---Cluny on 7/8/10


1Tim3:16b incarnate
KJV-God was manifest in the flesh
NLT-Christ appeared in the flesh
Reina Valera(Spanish)-Dios fue manifestado en carne
HNV-God was revealed in the flesh
Latin Vulgate-manifestatum est in carne
NIV- He appeared in a body
Incarnate, like all English words, was not in original text. By their definition, they can be placed in proper context for their Greek and Hebrew counterparts.
If English grammar and multilingual translations are too much for you 1stcliff, have someone help you.
---micha9344 on 7/8/10


Cluny, OK have it your way, just show me where it says "incarnate" in the bible, since you're sticking with bible terminology!
---1st_cliff on 7/8/10


\\Of course the Word became flesh at His human birth,but how did He Get from heaven to Mary's womb without being "transferred"???
40 days after resurrection He "transferred" Himself back to heaven as His disciples witnessed!\\

There are right and wrong words to use in these contexts.

He was INCARNATE (aka made flesh) in the Virgin's womb.

Then later He ASCENDED into heaven.

"Transfer" is the totally wrong word in both cases.

i prefer to stick with the Biblical terminology, myself.
---Cluny on 7/8/10


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Cluny, You must have some sleep still in your eyes.
I asked how it would be possible to say "a" God when translating Jn.1. without the article "a" that's why your bible says "was God"!
Of course the Word became flesh at His human birth,but how did He Get from heaven to Mary's womb without being "transferred"???
40 days after resurrection He "transferred" Himself back to heaven as His disciples witnessed!
Going from point A to point B is a transfer!
---1st_cliff on 7/8/10


\\I especially like the fancy dancing with words **The Word (who is God)** your words,not scripture!\\

Are you DENYING that John 1:1 says that the Word was God?

Are you DENYING that John 1:14 says that this same Word WAS MADE FLESH?

"Transfer" is precisely the wrong word to use with talking about the Incarnation.

||Tell me how you say "a" God when there's no article "a" in Greek?||

You bear false witness against me because I NEVER said "a God."
---Cluny on 7/8/10


Cluny, If the Logos (Jesus Christ) was not transferred to the Virgin's womb..then who was? His twin brother???
C'mon Cluny, get real!
I especially like the fancy dancing with words **The Word (who is God)** your words,not scripture!
"Oh well,(you're gonna say Jn.1.3 says the Word was God"
Tell me how you say "a" God when there's no article "a" in Greek?? The Logos (Theos) was "with" (ho Theos). Same God????
"With" means more than one. Maybe He was with Himself?? (Makes a lot of sense??)
---1st_cliff on 7/7/10


\\Did you not read that Jesus "emptied himself" before being transferred to Mary's womb?\\

The Logos was not "transferrred" to the Virgin's womb.

This is at least two-fold heresy: Adoptionism and Docetism (and possibly classical Nestorianism as condemned in the 5th century).

The Bible says, "The Word [Who is God] was made flesh."

It's clear you don't believe in the real Jesus.
---Cluny on 7/7/10


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Cluny: **The fullness of human nature....Virgin's womb** 7/7/10
Where did you come up with this info??? Certainly not the bible! This mixture of psychobabble is designed to impress like stirring the witch's calderon and chanting!
Did you not read that Jesus "emptied himself" before being transferred to Mary's womb? (which would include His divine nature) No he was not 1/2 man 1/2 god like the pagan mythological deities!
But then,2,000 years of folklore mixed with scripture explains your core belief !
---1st_cliff on 7/7/10


You are really going to need to read the word for yourself here and have a closed mind to some on the statements on here.Instead of getting an answer you'll merely getting people running each other down instead of a unified response.

We all need to get out noses out of the sand and work together in harmony through one faith expressed in the Holy Bible. My guess is you need to ask from which faith you desire your answer since there are several here and two who totally do not agree with each other.

God is not the author of confusion!


God help us!
---Carla on 7/7/10


\\Cluny, People say that every day..OMG, notice the absence of "You are." which he would have included in saying "You are or you are indeed my Lord and my God". (you're grasping at straws here!)\\

You're clearly projecting here, that is, accusing me of what you're doing yourself.

\\At that moment he was sharing Mary's nature as a human!\\

Wrong. The fullness of human nature was united with His fullness of divine nature in one Person, never to be separated, from the moment of His first presence in the Virgin's womb.
---Cluny on 7/7/10


God called the Child born-Mighty God, everlasting Father-Is 9:6
Matt1:20-25
Immanuel-God with us.

You either believe in the Word of God or you don't.

But unless you believe...
---char on 7/7/10


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Cluny, People say that every day..OMG, notice the absence of "You are." which he would have included in saying "You are or you are indeed my Lord and my God". (you're grasping at straws here!)
At that moment he was sharing Mary's nature as a human! He had just came back to life, He said "a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see I have.."
BTW my son is not me!(just looks like me lol, hey, we can't all be models)
---1st_cliff on 7/6/10


Cliff once again you fall into the error of imagining God as a SUPERMAN! You miss the point. God is spirit who lives outside of time, does not need a planet upon which to live, or anyplace in which to live, or light to see, doesn't breathe, eat, or sleep and is eternal. To say He is different to us is somewhat of an understatement.


We can only be in one place at any given time. We are very limited in every way while He is unlimited in all ways.

He 'inhabits' a totally different reality than we do.
---Warwick on 7/7/10


\\At no time did the disciples believe He was Almighty God! (then why do you?)
It's a pagan concept that slipped in the back door! Jesus is God's Son.Period!
---1st_cliff on 7/6/10\\

Then why did Thomas say to the risen Jesus, "My Lord and my God!"

Did Thomas believe in two gods (like the JWs do in their own translation)?

Did he mean something like, "OMG! It's the Lord!"

Of course, 1stCliff, your son doesn't share your human nature or is one of the Smiths (or whatever your surname is), does he?
---Cluny on 7/6/10


Cliff, you will be here asking the same questions or may I say, pointing out the mistakes you see that others don't, until you die, and unless the Holy Spirit reveals the gospel to you, you will remain the same. I cannot do anything about that. God the Spirit has to reveal it to you, that Jesus is God, incarnated in a human body for the purpose of dying on the Cross for the forgiveness of the sins of those who believe in Him by faith. And believing comes by hearing the gospel, and it does not come to everyone. You might be one that it doesn't come in power. You might hear it, but faith might not come.
I don't condemn you Cliff, I have no right to do so. I was once like you. But God made me alive to Christ.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/10


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El'-Omnipotent-Omnipresence
Present in all places at all times-
Father and I are One
Jn10:30
Our Father who art in Heaven Mat6:9
Meaning God-Immanuel-God with us.Mat1:23-25
Jn14-15-16
If ye had known Me,ye shold have known My Father also, and from hence-forth ye know and have seen Him...
Believst thou nto that [I]am in the Father, and the Father In Me? the words that [I] speak unto you I speak not of Myself: but the Father That dwelleth ih Me, [he] doeth the works
---char on 7/6/10


MarkV,
I think this is the part of Luke 3 Cluny was talking about.


Luke 13: 1 - 3
"Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no!....."
---miche3754 on 7/6/10


Mark V, I perceive from your posts that you are a decent Christian,albeit a little mixed up in your fundamentalist thinking!
How??
It's a simple statement of Jesus that our Father is in heaven.(Why do you not believe Him?) He was on earth at the time and His/our Father was in heaven,do you think He was trying to trick his followers into believing He and his Father were in two different places??
At no time did the disciples believe He was Almighty God! (then why do you?)
It's a pagan concept that slipped in the back door! Jesus is God's Son.Period!
---1st_cliff on 7/6/10


1 Cliff, I do not make my own theology, it is that you do not have a clue of the concept of the Trinity. You are speaking of Father God, He is God, but so is the Son, and so is the Holy Spirit. The Bible is clear that God is spirit, That is His deity. The Spirit of God was in the Son, and is the same Holy Spirit. But since you do not believe that Jesus is God, you will always argue against the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. But this truths can only be revealed by the Spirit. I cannot make you see them. The One who inspired the writers to write, has to make it known to you.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/10


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If Jesus says "Our father which art in HEAVEN" If you don't believe the Son ,how can you say you're in touch with Him???
He ought to know where His Father is!
If He says "in heaven" then I believe Him.

Make up your own "theology"
---1st_cliff on 7/6/10


1 Cliff, there is something fundamentally wrong in your way of thinking. Maybe because you only able to think that way and so you refuse Scripture concerning the nature, character and attributes of God. There is nothing wrong with God, something is wrong with man who cannot or will not accept who God is. And that is because you are not able to see those facts written in Scripture. Carla says, it is your choice, I say it is your inablitiy to see God. That is why when you make your choice against who God really is, it is because you cannot see who He really is. The teaching of the Cross to them that parish is foolishness, but to us who are born of the Spirit it is the power of God.
---MarkV. on 7/5/10


Wow, 1stcliff, you have a small god. he can't be everywhere at the same time?
Nothing is impossible with my God. He can and will.
Come to the Light that shines through the darkness and will permeate all.
---micha9344 on 7/4/10


Cliff the Oxford Dictionary is full of words designed to explain reality. Names given for beliefs or things which previously had no name. For example Omniscient, Omnipotent, theocracy, and Jehovah. That these words are not in Scripture does not mean these words are not accurate, useful descriptive words.

The word 'frustrating' adequately and fairly describes computers. When they are good they are very very good but when they are bad they are awful! 'Frustrating' does not have to be in any computer program for us to use it. Definitely frustrating.
---Warwick on 7/4/10


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Psl.139.7.8. Simply means you cannot hide from God , doesn't mean He's everywhere!
There's 774,746 words in the bible, yet you have to make up extra words like Omniscient, omnipotent,omnipresent homoousios etc to promote your theology???
A fundamentalist problem!
---1st_cliff on 7/4/10


Cluny, I read what you said that Jesus said in Luke 13 and could not find such statement. Can you direct us to where it is located? Since you said it was about natural disasters? Could it be that the Word of God contradicts? I need to see it if you can offer the passages for us.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/10


Psalms 139:7-8 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou [art] there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou [art there].
Isaiah 66:1a Thus saith the LORD, The heaven [is] my throne, and the earth [is] my footstool:
Matthew 5:34-35a But I say unto you, Swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool:
Gen 18:1 And Jehovah appeared unto him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day,
IF He is only in heaven and can come to earth, who is He appearing to right now?
Or, being omnipresent, He can be anywhere or everywhere at once.
---micha9344 on 7/2/10


All this speculation of where God is was answered by Jesus.
"Our Father which **art in heaven**".Jesus says He is in heaven not down the mine shaft,up on the moon or in your closet.

Psl.115.16 "The highest heavens belong to the Lord but the earth He has given to man".
---1st_cliff on 7/2/10


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God Is omnipotent even omnipresent.
He Is every where present, Except, if you have Not open your heart to let Him in to dwell aft He's knocked on your hearts door.
He does allow that still - small - voice to those that have Not received Him to deal with their heart.
---Lawrence on 7/2/10


\\Or in India planning an earthquake, and, be right here a helping me. \\

And if an earthquake were to happen right under your house, catherine, would that be God or just satan coming against you?

You might what to read what Jesus said about people who think that natural disasters are God's punishment in Luke 13.

Practical application: Unless YOU repent, catherine, YOU will likewise perish.
---Cluny on 7/2/10


the bible tells us where God is,and what God is.God is love,God is light,God is righteous,God is patient,boy aint that the truth,God is omipresent,meaning everywhere all the time,this best answers your question where is God?he is everywhere.
---tom2 on 7/2/10


God is big. My mind, I wish that it would expand. To be able to grasp the magnitude, the magnificence, of God. We hardly scratch the service in this. We get so caught up in our little world. God working, trying to get us ready for whatever He has for us in the future and ready for heaven, too....God is everywhere. He might be in China helping His people, there. Or in India planning an earthquake, and, be right here a helping me. He can do all things at once. Wow. Lets all please get a-hold of this, today. Hallelujah. "MAN WALKING ON THE WATER". Yes.
---catherine on 7/1/10


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Where is God?
God is a spirit....That means he is a spiritual being that cannot be seen by man Physically.

I hated the fact that I had to encounter spiritual evil, which scared the living daylight out of me. However in those terrifying moments, I fully understood if there could be this presents which was terrifying there had to be a God.

And if there was a God I was in deep trouble if I did not get my life on track. God dwells in a spiritual place, far above our universe where only holy beings dwell in order to see him we must be re born Spiritually again to know him personally.
---Carla on 6/30/10


God exist(or is really real) to my heart and mind in those he dwells, comforting me by revealing the knowledge to me that he is in me. Thank you Lord Jesus for saving my soul!!!
---mima on 6/30/10


Be "open" with God Open and He will "open" (reveal Himself) to you. God can be found ONLY if you truly/sincerely seek Him! For your sake, He earnestly wants you to find Him. (Matthew 7:7-8)
---Leon on 6/30/10


Pretty much everything you look at man made it. Everything that man did not make is explained in the bible where it came from how and why.

No other faith can explain these things in debt as does the bible. The fact that people choose to refuse this explanation is a matter of free choice.

You either believe or you don't. No one is going to make your mind up for you. Search the scriptures and understand the underling messages, a hasty read, is not going to prove
a thing but search daily and in it you will find the truth.
---Carla on 6/30/10


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In Jeremiah 23: 23-24 God confirms what other bloggers had written that HE fills everywhere.
---Adetunji on 6/30/10


Everywhere and limited to nowhere.

Heavenly King, Paraclete, Spirit of Truth, present everywhere, filling all things, Treasury of blessings and Giver of life, come and dwell in us, cleanse us from every stain, and, O Good One, save our souls.
---Cluny on 6/30/10


God exists everywhere. How? Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit saith the Lord.

Psalm 139 tells us God is everywhere:

7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me
---Donna5535 on 6/30/10


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