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Donna66 2: And since we are judge by God on what we do or not do, (Our actions or none action) it is very important to vote. I know some don't care to vote for many reasons, tired after work, not important enough, don't like the choices given to vote on, and people who have made up their mind, they cannot control what will happen. The whole of the matter is not the outcome, for God takes care of that, but our hearts, we could have done something and didn't, a sin of omission, when we could have helped and didn't. That was my point in voting.
---MarkV. on 10/9/10


God has prepared something for us in this country, that He had already ordained to happen through our actions of voting.
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this idea contradicts Holy Scripture - True Christians are WARNED if we love our physical lives we loose our eternal spiritual lives ...Gods plans are to REPLACE the governments of the world with Christ as ruler - hence Kingdom come the future of Gods Kingdom on earth

Biblical Christ asked True Christians to pray for Gods Will to Be done and ask HIM to keep us from evil - nothing more ...difficult to comprehend when false ministers now sell voting in Satans world and dupe many into self-satisfying reasoning of importance if physical life in Satan's world
---Rhonda on 10/9/10


Donna66, I completely agree with you on what you said. We are not of the world, but we live in the world and have the ability and freedom to vote and change some things in the world for the better of everyone. Goverments rise and fall by the will of God and since we don't know what the future holds for us here in America, all we can do is what we are capable of doing, excersing our rights to vote for a better life and to do our best from our hearts for the glory of God. If it is to help by voting certain laws to prevent sin or lawlessness then it is our duty as servants of God.
---MarkV. on 10/8/10


trav --- What you say is true. Human nature has a cruel side, no matter the skin color or heritage. How I wish history could be taught objectively, instead of always in terms of "criminal" and "victim".
---Donna66 on 10/8/10


This is one sided. I'll be the other. Indian tribes, plural, warred with each other. Took slaves, some tribes slicing through the tendons of the feet to permanently keep slaves from running off. They were heathen. They claimed no property, using whatever they conquered. Killing any who trespassed theirs. Anglo Christian blessings overwhelmed them.
Having no blessings promised in scripture by GOD through Christ...or they would have exhibited.
They were not American or unified. In Christian America they have same opportunity's anyone has....+ additional help that many don't.
---Trav on 10/8/10
LOL SAY WHAT!!!!
---francis on 10/8/10




...the true Americans are Indians whom the white man cheated and stole their land.
---Frank on 9/24/10

This is one sided. I'll be the other. Indian tribes, plural, warred with each other. Took slaves, some tribes slicing through the tendons of the feet to permanently keep slaves from running off. They were heathen. They claimed no property, using whatever they conquered. Killing any who trespassed theirs. Anglo Christian blessings overwhelmed them.
Having no blessings promised in scripture by GOD through Christ...or they would have exhibited.
They were not American or unified. In Christian America they have same opportunity's anyone has....+ additional help that many don't.
---Trav on 10/8/10


Rhonda, I would wish for you to stop to think about somethings that maybe you have not looked at. First, God in order to control some boundaries of sin, introduced or permitted goverments to form. Without goverments and some form of laws, sin would be uncontrolable. Second, we do not know what the future holds, and it could be that God has prepared something for us in this country, that He had already ordained to happen through our actions of voting. Then again it could be that through the failure of those not voting for the morals and values of the Lord, He has prepared us for wrath. So in reality whe don't know What God is going to do. But we can vote for a better life. We have that freedom others don't have.
---MarkV. on 10/8/10


maybe question should be phrased differently - why would anyone calling themselves christian understanding Christ future return ruling earth stand in His way by participating in a dying world and ITS governments?

participating in Satans world on earth TODAY they are voting in leaders who WILL FIGHT Christ at his future return

is mainstream christianity lost in deception unable to see Christ is returning WITH HIS Kingdom to destroy the governments of MAN?

understand this by voting in leaders to governments of world you are OPPOSING Christ and HIS Kingdom to come

True Christians live by EVERY Word of God Matt 4:4 Luke 4:4 Holy Scripture does not imply or demonstrate voting people to government leadership
---Rhonda on 10/7/10


Rhonda -- I wasn't implying anything about you personally. I don't even know you. By the same token, you have no basis to say that I have no knowledge of basic scripture, since you don't know me. (if you think you can show that I've used scripture innappropriately...please do so)

Doesn't matter to me whether you vote or not.

I was only trying to reason with you about why voting in an election COULD be perfectly consistent with the Christian life as revealed in the Bible.
---Donna66 on 10/7/10


No question about it. We should be involve by voting for Godly values and morals, and second for our country and fellow man. And stop giving money to countries who hate us. They do not deserve our money.
---Bob on 10/7/10




AG

my definition? I simply follow Holy Scripture - if that is YOUR idea of "my definition" than it would make your position much more clear because you have either diliberately ignored or been taught to dismiss BASIC scriptures - seeing you are determined to DEFEND your right to vote in Satan's world and you are more interested in participating in the world and ITS governments than being called out of the world to be separate by Christ

Shirl - you are free to call me wrong to not vote in your misguided opinion - however i live in America and it is MY RIGHT not to vote ...God graced America with freedoms to SERVE HIM not this world
---Rhonda on 10/7/10


Rhonda, you are wrong not to vote. Look at washington now because christians didn't vote. We have to live in this world until we are gone...me, I am going to heaven. In the meantime, I will follow politics and I will vote. We need to vote in some conservatives and christians.
---shira3877 on 10/7/10


Rhonda,
By your definition would Martin Luther King Jr be considered a true christian?
Also what are some of the worldly traditions you are referring to?
---AG on 10/7/10


Donna

your analogy is absurd

seeing you have no understanding of BASIC Holy Scripture

you play wordsmith games and attempt to IMPLY I would not share Gods Holy Truth and then insinuate because I don't vote in SATANS WORLD that I do not worship and serve the The Father in Heaven

VOTE if you choose - when one votes IN THE WORLD the serve the god of this world who is Satan 2Corin 4:4

one cannot be separate for Christ and worship The Father in Heaven through Him yet PLAY in the world we have been called OUT FROM
---Rhonda on 10/7/10


Rhonda-- Do you hold back your witness to those who do not know God and who live by the standards of the world? Do you avoid them because they are ruled by Satan? And if they ask your opinion, do you refrain from saying what you believe? Then why avoid the ballot box?

Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Mat 5:14-15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.


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---Donna66 on 10/6/10


AG

I agree

and to be in the world is to understand one's role as a Christian cannot be outside of the world why no?

seeing True Christians have no choice but to live in the world YET not be of the world

True Christians are SEPARATE

LIVING IN THE WORLD not of the world

when one is of the world they are involved/participate/take action IN ITS traditions, ITS politics, ITS systems

living seperate is easy to understand

praying for God will to be done in this gods world

amazing how mainstream christianity is LOST in the maze of lies served up by their false ministers who SERVE the political system of this world

Christ does not rule this world YET
---Rhonda on 10/6/10


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Rhonda,
Yes, thru the inspiration of the Holy Ghost the apostles made rules/judgements. So to answer the main question...Christians have been and can be political as long as they are "in the world but not of the world".
---AG on 10/6/10


To some extent the apostles were political "governors" over the Christian community, because they created rules and settled disputes
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Apostles created nothing ...Holy Scripture is inspired by The Father in Heaven

belief in Apostles "creating rules etc" makes it easy to understand why man is always "creating" their own idea's ABOUT Holy Scripture duping many into following him - NOT God

leadership of Apostles was UNDER Christ NOT the world ...IMPLY Apostles were "governors" only ADDS idea that unseen Spiritual is same as physical world of Satan

very difficult to comprehend world BELONGS to Satan when false ministers ignore basic scripture to support ideas they too created
---Rhonda on 10/5/10


Rhonda,
To some extent the apostles were political "governors" over the Christian community, because they created rules and settled disputes. Also many were politically active in the sense that they stood against corruption whether it was within the church, Isreal or the Roman Empire.
I'm not saying they were political in the modern American sense. But by the simplest definition they were political.
---AG on 10/5/10


Something is not RIGHT. You curse my God, yet you prosecute one for denouncing a fake religion. You go unpunished. My God will punish you. You get your very breath from Him, your Creator. AHHHHJESUS++
---catherine on 10/5/10


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Being involved in politics is fine, as long as we know that our political views are really Christian. Going around the world, I have seen opposite views being listed as Christian by evangelical Christians, and so I suspect we are not 'old enough' to deal in politics as Christians
---peter3594 on 10/5/10


The major patriarchs in the bible were directly or indirectly involved politics.
The majority of America's founders were political Christians.
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WHICH Apostles were "politically involved"?

if majority of christians openly and willfully sinned AGAINST God then by these standards anything a so-called christian does is okay because majority of these "christians do it?

Interesting stand mainstream christianity takes on politics because their false ministers SERVE the WORLD and ITS God and promote politics in their sermons

Where are all scriptures stating Christians should participate in world its systems traditions and ITS politics?

you do understand god of this world is Satan right?
---Rhonda on 10/4/10


The Obedience of a Christian man by William Tyndale

And even in like manner as God maketh the king head ouer his realm euen so giueth he him commandment to execute the laws vpon all men indifferently. For the Law is Gods and not the kings. The king is but a servant to execute the law of God and not to rule after his own imagination. I showed also that the Law and the king are to be feared, as things that were giuen in fire and in thunder and lightning and terrible signs, I showed the cause why rulers are euil and by what means we might obtain better. I showed also how wholesome those bitter medicines, euil princes, are to Christian men.
I declared how they which God hath made gouernors in the world oght to rule if they be Christian.
---Kev on 10/1/10


Seems to me history's most famous Christians were all politically involved.
The major patriarchs in the bible were directly or indirectly involved politics.
The majority of America's founders were political Christians.
---AG on 10/1/10


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I have to say, that's certainly not true at the church I attend, my minister and staff is the best! Godly and Christ-like and more interested in people than in money--although they, too, need money of course--but God and people are the focus of my church's ministries.
---Mary on 10/1/10


"They run their churches on money not saving souls."
---Royll on 9/30/10

The above is one of the truest statement I've ever read on Christianet!!!!
---mima on 10/1/10


Harold,
It's a two way street.
When the Lord calls, teaches, trains, anoints and sends the sheep know the shepherd's voice. They will know that the Lord sent the man.
The problem is that at times the Lord sends the one he wants and the sheep know it but the elders or board votes against it because they are afraid of losing their say in how the church is ran.
I have seen it happen.
I have also seen the example I gave about the Lord sending the shepherd he wanted and the sheep knowing the shepherd's voice. It worked great.
---Frank on 10/1/10


Those who vote in whom "they want" reject the Lord.
In this world, we should pray for rulers and those inauthority. Not vote them in.
The rulers of the world are of this world and those of this world should vote them in as they choose.
The word is clear. We are not of this world.
But, believe what you want.
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Amen we are to PRAY for Gods will to be done ...voting in rulers of this god world is AGAINST The Father in Heaven

impossible to live in this world being separate if one physically takes action AGAINST God by participating in this gods world of rulers

Gods will WILL BE DONE ...voting does not change HIS WILL only demonstrates bowing down and worshiping the world its systems and traditions
---Rhonda on 9/30/10


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As the churches are not the way God instructed his disciples to assemble them any body can say they are called but actually God doesn't call anybody you have to be led and taught by the Holy Spirit and first of all you must be working on your own salvation first.
A person doesn't have to be taught by man God teaches through his word.

Any pastor who runs a church today has there church fashioned after the Anglican church not God,s Church. They run their churches on money not saving souls.
---Royll on 9/30/10


Frank: I have been called of God to teach his word. I trained for many years to prepare to do so. At the present time I am with out a congregation. Can I just walk in and take yours. I know for a fact there are many things we do not agree on. But if God called me and I truly think the Spirit is leading in my teachings who is to say I am wrong. With the differences in our believes I would tear apart your congregation in short order, and I know this not what God would have. Some one should examine me before I could even start to do this.
---Harold on 9/30/10


Donna66,
As long as you have conscience clear before man and God in this more power to you.
Many issues are on the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Some make a God out of this world and return back to it as a dog to it's vomit and a sow to it's wallowing in the mire.
But, if Christ still comes first then so be it.
Have a good day and God bless.
---Frank on 9/28/10


Frank -- I vote AND pray for whomever is elected.
---Donna66 on 9/28/10


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Harold,
You answered it yourself.
People pray and the one that God anoints he will send. Just as God used Samuel to anoint David and Saul.
No elders, board or body of believers voting.
Yes, he can just walk in and the flock will know. Or should.
Those who vote in whom "they want" reject the Lord.
In this world, we should pray for rulers and those inauthority. Not vote them in.
The rulers of the world are of this world and those of this world should vote them in as they choose.
The word is clear. We are not of this world.
But, believe what you want.
---Frank on 9/27/10


If true believers do not get involved in politics then all the rulers are of the devil. There is no other choice. Is this what you believe God wants since we are commanded to pray for them? Is this how you as a Christian want to be governed.
---Harold on 9/27/10


Frank: I don't understand how you get a pastor. If a person walks in off the street and tells you God sent him to shepherd this flock to you accept it at face value or do you investigate. If you investigate who does it and to whom do they report and why. Who decides he is the pastor if he is believed.
As for the Hebrews living under a Theocracy in Jesus time, the direct rule by God ended when they got Saul as their king. God told Samuel that the people had not rejected him as appointed but they had rejected God and His rule in favor of mans. This means it wasn't Samuel they wanted to do away with, but God.
---Harold on 9/27/10


Donna,
One final post about this.
The Lord saying for his Father to keep them from evil.
The government which is upon his shoulders is his Kingdom. In that Kingdom the people have no say.
He said by thy own words shall I judge you. All people do with their words are to either manifest their faith in him or damn themselves.
His Kingdom is no democracy or republic. It is a Kingdom and He has all say.
No voting.
As a matter of fact, those churches who have elders vote in a pastor and do not accept the one the Lord sends are using their voting to damn their flocks.
It is the Spirit of God who decides who the shepherd is.
Not man.
Have a good day.
---Frank on 9/27/10


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Donna66,
Yes, Jesus prayed. He also said he prayed not for the world.
His apostles have told us to pray for kings and those in authority.
Still in all, believe what you wish.
---Frank on 9/27/10


Frank-- I don't believe for a minute that God's plans are altered by my vote or the millions of other voters. I believe He expects us to be responsible in every area of our lives. I can't sit by silently and watch seemingly ungodly or unfair laws enacted when I've been given a chance (I see it as a responsibility, where gov't is concerned) to make my wishes known.

I don't believe Jesus meant for us to remain unconcerned about what's happening in the world, for He prayed (Jhn 17:15) I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
---Donna66 on 9/26/10


As representatives of Christ, we should assume some responsibility

Isaiah 9:6..and the government shall be upon his shoulder:..
---michael_e on 9/25/10


\\"god-given options" of voting serving public office unsupported by Holy Scripture which STATES True Christains are to come out of the world and ITS traditions\\

Like using internet Christian blogs, Rhonda?
---Cluny on 9/25/10


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Donna66,

Does not the word Revelation bring a book of the Bible to mind?

This book tells exactly what will happen and man can do nothing to change that.

Man's thoughts, words and actions will only bring it to pass. Not change it.

The Lord already knows who will follow him and who will not.
He already knows who is a part of his kingdom and who is a part of the kingdom of the devil.

Those are the scriptures.
---Frank on 9/25/10


Frank --- Which scripture did you answer me with? I read you response several times and could find none. You gave your impression of what Scripture means.

The Hebrews of Jesus day lived under a THEOCRACY. Their Governor was God, and they were bound to obey him. And the Romans, who had temporary control, did not give them any "voting" privileges, though Roman citizens could vote.
We do not live under a THEOCRACY. Our government was and is a fallible human creation. Its' laws were designed to be changed with time and changing conditions.
For the sake of fairness, these changes are implemented by a "VOTE". When we live under the rule of King Jesus, we will not have a vote (and no need for one).
---Donna66 on 9/25/10


Donna66,
I answered with scripture.
You answered with the words of man.
I stand on what the word of God says.
Revelation is clear in what will happen as I posted.
The Lord already knew and revealed it to John.
Man can not change that.
Those who vote and those who do not vote will only bring it to pass.
The word does say pray for kings and those in a position of authority. Not vote them out of office.
Jesus said when you are persecuted in one city flee to another. Not take it over.
The early settlers here did that in a sense even though the true Americans are Indians whom the white man cheated and stole their land.
---Frank on 9/24/10


Frank--No, our government is to be "by the people, for the people, of the people" Voters, no matter their faith, number themselves among the "people". They want a chance to influence their future.

There are many counties where one cannot vote. Did you notice that when Iraqis got the right to vote, they went to the polls and dipped their fingers in the ink even when their lives might be in danger. Was it just to "feel important"?
Or shouldn't they BE important in their own country?
---Donna66 on 9/23/10


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The word in Revelation already says what will happen. Man can change nothing. He can only vote and have his vote help bring about what the word of God has already proclaimed.
We are pilgrims and strangers on this earth.
Pilgrims and strangers do not vote. Only citizens. This we are not in a spiritual sense.
But, some just want to have their say with a vote.
Maybe they want to feel important or as though they take a stand for Jesus.
To each their own.
---Frank on 9/23/10


The Jews of the OT defied God and demanded a king of their own because the rest of the world had their own kings.

What is the purpose of becoming polically involved? To change the world to become a better place to live? It's not possible. End-time prophesies are being fullfilled and no politians can change what is coming.

Our jobs as christians is to be aware of what is happening in the world, knowing that the end is near, and to encourage one another and to help populate the Kingdom of God. Do an online bible search for "one another," "each other," "encourag," and "comfort" for living a christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational churches.
---Steveng on 9/22/10


Why not? Are we not to be salt and light in the world? Are we to give the godless an advantage because we are too "holy" to be concerned with the everyday affairs of our nation and its people.

As for those who "errantly believe Christianity and conservatism are kin... it is an understandable, but still false, assumption.

Christians ARE "conservative" because they work to keep alive a teaching that reaches back two centuries. That's what conservatism means, maintaining things of the past. Political conservatives place greater value on the old "tried and true"
ways of governing. However, it is quite possible to be conservative in religion and "progressive" in politics.
---Donna66 on 9/22/10


Avoiding politics and voting is bad stewardship God gave you the option to practice your Christianity by voting and serving in public office, when you abrogate the choices God gave you, you serve Satin.
---blogger9211 on 9/14/10

Uh-uh, The measuring stick is holiness and obedience not civic involvement.
You don't practice Christianity by voting or running for office. It cheapens the crucifixon and the murders of the disciples.
You don't vote because your a Christian and you don't become a Christian because you vote. Nonsense.
Having said that I vote and the bible praises the Holy King. Amen.
---larry on 9/20/10


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NO, No and No. The Godly king is always a blessing to his own but there is no biblical mandate to become involved in politics. None.

The problem is how to be civically involved WITHOUT the muck of politics.
Many Christians never bifurcate the two and errantly believe Christianity and conservatism are kin. That is a lie straight from the pit of hell.

There is nothing holy about politics and there is no biblical virtue in being conservative, liberal or libertarian.
God will only be praised in holiness of which there is no rival.

The wise king who understands that mercy exults over judgement is the Prime Minister or President after God's own heart.
---larry on 9/20/10


Avoiding politics and voting is bad stewardship God gave you the option to practice your Christianity by voting and serving in public office, when you abrogate the choices God gave you, you serve Satin.
---blogger9211 on 9/14/10

I think you're onto something blogger. He gives us blessings and we play....and let the ones with personal agendas achieve position. Like OT Israel.
But, then if we were serving under the poser now you would be serving satan. Bout the only way out on this deal is to vote posers/communistic/socialistic/perverted rejects out as fast as possible. Since we're not all bleating enough to do otherwise.
---Trav on 9/15/10


blogger

sadly you have applied the PARABLE of talent to an unrelated topic which is why you cannot comprehend BASIC scripture ...it truly does help to comprehend this parable when you understand the parable rather than ASSIGNING whatever value YOU determine the talent will mean to suit your LIE

Satan RULES earth today

ALL governments BELONG to Satan

TRUE Christians are asked to pray to The Father in Heaven to keep us from evil AND to pray for HIS WILL to be done

your worldly idea's and political traditions SERVE the god of THIS WORLD

it was WELL noted you had no scriptures to support your WILD ideas
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


Ronda. the Christian stewardship train has left with out you dear. Each of us was created and put in a time and place to make decisions. Those decisions can be Godly or ungodly. Your are behaving like the servant who buried the master's money and gave him no return on the day of accountability. For to serve the master you had to be willing invest in the world to achieve and use the talents that God gave you for his greater glory. But you simply chose to exist under the rock afraid to come out int he light of day. God gave you talents so that you could actually use them in service to him but you chose to ignore them and in doing so dishonor God. Does God still love you, Yes, but did you achieve the tasks God wanted YOU to accomplish?
---blogger9211 on 9/14/10


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...God gave you the option to practice your Christianity by voting and serving in public office, when you abrogate the choices God gave you, you serve Satin
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"god-given options" of voting serving public office unsupported by Holy Scripture which STATES True Christains are to come out of the world and ITS traditions

by SERVING physical modern WORLD of Satan 2Corin 4:4 who is the god of THIS world MANY are led to destruction by SERVING false ministers become emotionally TIED to idea today's MODERN world are doing Gods Will

arrogance of dismissing God by casting YOUR WILL in a vote

god of THIS WORLD IS Satan - any voting done in this physical world supports Satan NOT The Father in Heaven
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


It is an an act of abject stupidity to use scripture as a reason for not voting or participating in politics.

The reason is that the time of the writing of the scriptures people did not have the option of choice in voting for candidates and all political offices were appointed by some one in power.

But we were born in a time period where we have choices we collectively chose our elected officials. Just as God call some into the ministry God call some to be public servants and to act in a Christian manor in serving in office.

Avoiding politics and voting is bad stewardship God gave you the option to practice your Christianity by voting and serving in public office, when you abrogate the choices God gave you, you serve Satin.
---blogger9211 on 9/14/10


Ideally, it would be wounderful if our leaders were practicing-on-fire, born again Christians. God ordains authority figures and can appoint anyone He wants into political positions. He actually has everything all worked out. My take on it is that since we are so near to the return of Christ, it is not likely that faithful Christian leadership is in the offing as sin increases and love decreases. We are likely to see darker corruption as time passes.
---jody on 9/12/10


True Christians understand Holy Scripture warned us to be in the world yet separate

"joining" politics or any mainstream christianity is to join the world and ITS god

the world BELONGS to Satan 2Corin 4:4

many in politics claim christianity and belong to MANY of the worlds christian religions

there is only ONE CHURCH that Christ leads - HE is NOT leading mainstream christianity who will ALL one day very soon be reunited and bowing down to SERVE their MOTHER Rev 17 in Rome

Christ returns AFTER the great times of sorrow HE is not here ruling now like many false ministers want you to believe
---Rhonda on 9/5/10


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The sole reason why politics is so corrupt is because Christians have failed to join world governance. We are a ROYAL priesthood. Royalty is leadership, governance, showing the way. The world is yet to see what God can do through people absolutely devoted to him. The blog question reflects the current hopelessness on people who profess to be Christians.
---hop on 9/2/10


That's true Steve. We are not here just to be a smiling at everybody trying to be Christ-like, so christeny, all the while Satan keeps moving on in.... Don't come to close to me I might throw-up all over your unholy shoes.
---catherine on 8/15/10


Of course christians should be involved in politics. Our country is in so much trouble because of ungodly leaders and the lame state of so called christians sitting in pews.

When Isreal had Godly Kings (only a few) the nation prospered. When ungodly everyone suffered like we today. I'm not giving O Bama all the blame.
If Godly principles are practiced than we'll get good results.

I believe we have so many bad politicians, government leaders and judges today because we don't make our voice known and take action. It's the churches fault this country is crumbling! Come out of your bubble and make good change and stop pointing fingers at everyone but your sins. Steve
---Steve on 8/14/10


Of course Christians should be involved in politics. We are the "salt" of the earth, salt not used is of no value. It would also mean any Christian who holds a political office is committing sin. It would please the "left" if Christians were not in politics. Those Christians who don't think a Christian should be involved in politics may be sincere, but they are sincerely wrong.
---wivv on 8/12/10


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I wish our leaders would quit saying what I will do. What they do is not the right thing to do.
---catherine on 8/12/10


Should God be involved in polities? God is very much active in the affairs of man, and of the affairs of this world. The problem is governments are not seeking God for guidance and or advice. And they are not asking for much from God's own people, which is a mystery to me, except men in governments feels that they have all the answers, and don't need God, or His people to help out. [We can hear from the living God]. Still, God is waiting for men to come down off their pedestals, and put God back up on His where He belongs. Man down, God up. All I ever hear is a bunch of I will's! I hate that, too.
---catherine on 8/11/10


NO! You can still respect the laws of the land like God tells us w/o involving in the political scenes.
---candice on 8/11/10


Robert, thats the first I've heard about Sharon Angle.
---wayne on 8/2/10

Gee Wayne...must be part of our "agenda"...
---NurseRobert on 8/4/10


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No we christians should never think about being involved in politics! we have No grasp on reality!
---John on 8/4/10


"Sharron Angle a tea bag republican from Nevada calls for an armed insurrection if she loses the election.
She also said that it was God's will that a rape victim gets pregnant.."
Nurse Robert
I think what she said was, "If a victim of rape gets pregant that is God's will."
If anyone on the right side of the fence was to make any group "bad/crazy" because of what one person said you'd jump with both feet and mouth. How many times have you indicated that you can't look at one person and condemn all?
Do you think the TEA group has any valid concerns?
---Elder on 8/2/10


yes Elder.. the left has an agenda, thats why they don't want christians getting involved. The agenda is a political one as we all know. Its about more control over the people. Thats why EH will not go after voter fraud and intimadation.
Robert, thats the first I've heard about Sharon Angle.
---wayne on 8/2/10


The thug thieves in office now are counting on christians not getting involved in politics.
---wayne on 8/1/10

Must be talking about the right wingnuts.

Sharron Angle a tea bag republican from Nevada calls for an armed insurrection if she loses the election.

She also said that it was God's will that a rape victim gets pregnant..

Yeah, that's the party I want to support.
---NurseRobert on 8/1/10


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"The thug thieves in office now are counting on christians not getting involved in politics."
---wayne on 8/1/10
Wayne you win the BINGO award. You are right on.
In any other issue there would be screaming from the left about censorship.
The last time I voted there were leftest wearing condemning remarks on their clothes and coats directed towards Christians and right issues voters. They displayed/made intimidating statements and attitudes.
The officials and security at the poll would not do anything about it even when complaints were made.
King David was involved in politics so were other biblical Christians. Why does the left not want Christians involved today?
---Elder on 8/1/10


The thug thieves in office now are counting on christians not getting involved in politics.
---wayne on 8/1/10


"Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth."
Politics, as we know them, are an aspect of this current, sensually based system of things [the world]. Involvement is a matter of choice, for everyone.
---joseph on 8/1/10


All the folks in the New Testament avoided politics, especially Paul. He only told us to pray for the people in power. So we should avoid politics. It's of the world, not of God.
---ger.toshav on 7/31/10


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"No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4) So, if we are involved in politics, we are doing this in order to please whom?

"Do not get tangled, so you don't get mangled!"

But, anywhere in this world, things are corrupt. So, I can see one can get involved, but in the right way. Paul does say we are "in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation" (in Philippians 2:15). And our main way of reaching and dealing with these people is by good example, "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/30/10


NO.
Politics Are corrupted. There's No such a thing as a Christian politician, because politics being corrupted & it would be used for their own name & gain. No doubt it would be used to RATT other Christians.
---Lawrence on 7/30/10


Isn't there already a still open blog on this subject?
---Cluny on 7/30/10


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