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I guess no one realizes when we attack each other's responses; that is of the devil? Isn't satan the accuser of the brethren? Why attack another person's response? Let's hear your opinions.

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Strongax, Every tongue opposing me in judgment will be condemned. This is my heritage, the servant of Yhwh, and my righteousness from Yhwh.
---Eloy on 10/3/10


Eloy:

The very fact that you constantly proclaim your own righteousness should be a red flag to anyone who reads these blogs. As Christians, our righteousness is supposed to shine before men, so they can see it manifest without having to be told about it.

If we have to tell people how righteous we are, or how honest we are, or how generous we are, etc. it means that our own righteousness, honesty, generosity, etc. are NOT manifest to those watching us.
---StrongAxe on 10/3/10


One possible reason people attack others is they think too highly of themselves and too little of others. Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vain glory,but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. It is easier to look down on others than to humble oneself. If a person doesn't have a teachable heart they see all others as wrong and themselves as right. One big reason is that this site provides anonymity. What is lacking when attacking others is respect for them. We all should respect others rights to believe as they please but if we want to share a point it should be done with Bible verses as proof not opinions. Finally no one has a right to judge anothers soul position with God.
---Darlene_1 on 10/2/10


Strongax, your dissing my righteousness as wrong, is your own misjudgment.
---Eloy on 10/2/10


Matthew 18:18-20. Christians are obligated to contend for the faith, are instructed to judge, but we are not permitted to diminish others by judging in a hypocritical, unjust, or false manner. Also, the disciplining of a presumed Bishop is not a punishment, but recognizes that man is not qualified, by not meeting various Biblical standards *.
StrongAxe: 1Timothy 1:20, 2Timothy 2:17, 4:14, Revelations 2:20.
* Matthew 7:1-5 / Luke 6:41-42, Acts 20:27-30, Romans 1:18, 2:8-9, 16:17-18, 1Corinthians 2:15, 5:1-13 (3), 6:4, 20, 11:31, Galatians 2:4-5, 5:16-6:5, Ephesians 4:17-5:18, Colossians 3:5-10, 22-23, 2Thesalonians 3:6, 1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:5-16, James 3:1-18, 4:11-12, 1Peter 3:15, 5:1-3, Jude 1:3-4.
---Glenn on 10/2/10




Eloy:

I often point out where you are wrong, and sometimes where you are right. I may take issue with what you say, but I do not make personal attacks against you. I do not disrespect your person by calling you apostate, unsaved, blasphemer, full of lies and darkness, etc. - yet you constantly say these things to me and others here. So who dissing whom?

I do not presume to call myself "saint", "righteous", "prophet", etc. as you often do of yourself. Inasmuch as these are true, God and others who know me can be my witnesses without my help. And inasmuch as these are not, why risk perjury as well? Even Jesus remained silent before Pilate, even though had the right to call himself all of these things.
---StrongAxe on 10/1/10


Alwayson, thanks for the impute. I thought what someone put was that she stopped been a Christian, that she left Christ. What she left is a bunch of people who called themselves Christian, but her faith stayed intacted. That is so much different. All she did was stop been around hypocritical people. Titles are given to identify with Christ or to followers of Christ, but they are titles given by man. I'm glad to hear she is holding on to her faith in Christ. Praise God. Thank you so much for the information. blessings to you.
---MarkV. on 10/1/10


"Anonymity" sister Donna makes it easy. Were we might refrain in person our true thoughts of the heart are on display on the web in the shadow of God's redemptive mercy.
The hate and resentment God knew all along we have chosen to display in public in false anonymity.

In actuality we lie naked before Christ and Satan who know are wretched hearts.

No doubt from your question you are troubled by this soiling of our Christian witness.

The heart is not wicked but desperately wicked.
---larry on 10/1/10


\\Eloy, I've never been one to call you unsave. Not because I know you are. But I give you the benefit of the doubt. What you say many times are blasphemous words that give evidence that the tree you talk about should be cut down from the root. That's the evidence you give. Just about everyone here has gotten your "not saved" quotes\\

MarkV, that's because Eloy is a disser who has no light in him.
---Cluny on 10/1/10


Eloy, I've never been one to call you unsave. Not because I know you are. But I give you the benefit of the doubt. What you say many times are blasphemous words that give evidence that the tree you talk about should be cut down from the root. That's the evidence you give. Just about everyone here has gotten your "not saved" quotes. And they still answer you with what they know. I do many times. I also tell you when you have done good answering because I want to encourage you to do that. But you are pretty bad, not bad like some other one I know because you don't go looking for them all over the place as she does. You have never done that. But you do ruin your witness with you judgments. This is the righeous Judgment you talk about.
---MarkV. on 10/1/10




The answer follows:

(Gal 5:13-15 [NET])
For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters, only do not use your freedom as an opportunity to indulge your flesh, but through love serve one another.
For the whole law can be summed up in a single commandment, namely, You must love your neighbor as yourself.
However, if you continually bite and devour one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another.
---Royll on 10/1/10


(Gal 5:25 [NET])
If we live by the Spirit, let us also behave in accordance with the Spirit.
Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, being jealous of one another.

You now have God,s word for us as Christians you choose which shall you do.

I follow the fruit.
---Royll on 10/1/10


In Rice's full statement she quit the organized religion called Christianity, not Christ.

Here is the original comment taken from her Facebook page where it 1st appeared on 7/28/10):

"For those who care, and I understand if you don't: Today I quit being a Christian. I'm out. I remain committed to Christ as always but not to being "Christian" or to being part of Christianity. It's simply impossible for me to "belong" to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten ...years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else."
---AlwaysOn on 10/1/10


\\MarkV, My witness is never ruined but bears witness to the truth\\

You actually think you witness to the truth, Eloy?
---Cluny on 10/1/10


Trav, Be sure your sin will find you out. You post falsehood,....
Lord's scriptures are blessing me and not rebuking me.
....praise the saints of God, rather than dis righteousness onto your own shame.
---Eloy on 9/29/10

Well,my sins are mine. Yours are yours. You post you are a saint and a prophet. The opposite is visibly noted.
Your loveworship/upholding/defense of a baby aborter and pervert supporter. By such scripture points you are neither/none of what you claim.
Never ever, praise from trav...just a dusting off.... of feet. Dust,dust,dust....shake...shake shake.
---Trav on 10/1/10


Strongax, you continue to blaspheme because there is no light in you. The godly are comanded to preach the truth, not speak flattery and honor the wicked, which is what you desire to receive. You cannot have it both ways, you cannot continue to blaspheme the righteous and also expect God to bless you. If you want honor you cannot do dishonorable things, you must do honorable things, else you rightly recieve condemnation and godly judgment. Those that receive the word of truth are blessed, but the hard-hearted and dissers are under God's judgment and wrath until they repent onto righteousness and restoration.
---Eloy on 10/1/10


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MarkV, My witness is never ruined but bears witness to the truth. Blasphemers delight in blaspheming the saints because they themselves refuse to get right with God. You delight on abiding outside of righteousness, yet you desire to receive God's praise from us saints, this will never happen until you become yoked with righteousness, and you are not able to do this until you accept God's commandment to repent from all sin and accept Christ's Lordship and command in your life. God will only convert that what you surrender up to him, for whatever you hold back to keep for yourself is condemned of God, and a little leaven will leaven the whole lump.
---Eloy on 10/1/10


Strongaxe, you don't have to worry about the genuine believer because God knows who they are already. I also think that she never had a true contrite heart for Christ, or that she was born of the Spirit. Of course it is my opinion, by what has been said. When a person is truely saved, they overcome. Not because of ourselves but because of Christ who lives in us. Maybe it was not her time. Or maybe she did come under a false gospel. There is many who claim to be Christian who answer terrible. Your right with your statement about Eloy. I tried to tell him to answer and not condemn, and ruin his witness, but to no avail. People here condemn others, and then add Scripture to make it sound like they are very righteous, even to say they are sinless.
---MarkV. on 10/1/10


Rhonda:

She likely tried to get to Christ, but was blocked by too many so-called Christians. Many either leave Christianity or refuse to accept it because they see Christians preaching love, peace, honesty and integrity while immersed in greed, malice, and hypocrisy.

Matthew 18:6, Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2
It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

Romans 2:24
As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

I would be more worried about what God will say on the day of judgment to us, than what he will say to Ann Rice and others like her who walk away on our account.
---StrongAxe on 10/1/10


Rice wrote ...Today I quit being a Christian ... It's simply impossible for me to belong to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else.
*****

hmmm she VIVIDLY desribed the political parties TOO - except few ever quit on politics

Ann Rice (like many in mainstream christianity) signed up for christianity with no spiritual discernment ...no different than signing up for an event or some local club or knitting group ...it was just something to do

or worse they had a low day emotionally and some fanatic "witnessed" to them ...when the witnessing high wore off they moved on
---Rhonda on 9/30/10


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Eloy:

Yes, precisely! You are very right here. Yet the fruits that come out of your mouth on these blogs, more often than not, do not show the fruits of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance - Galatians 5:23), but rather the fruits of condemnation, judgmentalism, self-righteousness, accusations of lies (frequently in forms like "You post falsehood, for there is no light in you."), etc. - things more typical of the Pharisees. We don't even need to look at what else you say - how you say it tells everything.
---StrongAxe on 9/30/10


Strongax, "You all will know them by their fruits. For from the fruit the tree is known. Every good tree brings forward good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forward bad fruit. A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good person out of the good treasure of the heart brings forward good things: and an evil person out of the evil treasure brings forward evil things. Every idle word, which if a person will speak, they will yield account of it at Judgment day. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire."
---Eloy on 9/30/10


Atheist,

Thanks for sharing the bit about Anne Rice. I read her Facebook comments via an article on Huffington Post and I get it. ,)
---AlwaysOn on 9/29/10


Trav, Be sure your sin will find you out. You post falsehood, for there is no light in you. Trav, you by yourself posted, "..this is why WE rebuke you." You have not posted, "the Scriptures rebuke you", because my Lord's scriptures are blessing me and not rebuking me. And there is no we, when it is only your own blasphemous tongue alone that you have chosen to use for dissing. I pray that you get saved from your sin and accept Christ into your heart and life, then your tongue will speak truth and praise the saints of God, rather than dis righteousness onto your own shame.
---Eloy on 9/29/10


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Eloy:

How is anyone "proven" to be lost, or "proven" to be saved? You can declare it, but that is but a single witness. Note that Jesus did not teach that we should separate the lost and the saved - the two would grow up together, and inseparable. The only "proving" will be at the Final Judgment, when the wheat and the tares are FINALLY and permanently separated. Until then, we just have to use wisdom and discernment - and also be humble enough to admit that our own wisdom may sometimes be in error, since we are not God.
---StrongAxe on 9/29/10


Trav, you are not able to rebuke me, for you are proven to be lost, and I am proven to be Christianed.
---Eloy on 9/29/10


Scripture does the rebuking accurately, and keeps the "me",an "i" out of it. Rail against it profit.

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Jeremiah 14:14
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
---Trav on 9/29/10


Trav, you have to have it, before you can give it: for you cannot give out that what you do not have inwardly: A person needs to get saved before they can administer the gospel to anyone. Trav, you are not able to rebuke me, for you are proven to be lost, and I am proven to be Christianed.
---Eloy on 9/29/10


...but whenever a saint bears true witness and testifies truths, that is righteous judgment.
---Eloy on 9/26/10

By your own words. This is why we rebuke your claim to be a "saint" and "prophet". You are neither as per scripture.
You have the fervor and the desire which are necessary, but important attributes are missing.....
Truth and scriptural witnesses are never given for your testimoney.
---Trav on 9/27/10


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mike, Righteous judgment is judgment based upon Truth. When a sinner judges falsely and "calls" it righteous judgment, does not make it so. Whenever a sinner bears false witness and makes lies, that is false judgment: but whenever a saint bears true witness and testifies truths, that is righteous judgment. Frequently the rich and the beautiful and the sinner wrests true judgment, and one sinner destroys much good.
---Eloy on 9/26/10


If we are doing this, then we need to stop. It is not what we do but how we do it. If someone does not agree with us, so what? Everyone's level of faith is different. We can all get along and agree to disagree, if we try. When we know better, we can do better. Serving God is about getting along, loving one another and helping one another, in love. We should watch how and what we say to each other. Gently correct when we see a sister/brother in outright error. If the person refuses correction, leave them to themselves. This is scripture. If we are truly saved and indwelled by the Holy Spirit we will have a teachable spirit. A tree is known by the fruit it bears. What kind of tree are you? What kind of fruit are you bearing?
---Robyn on 9/23/10


YES, IT'S FRM THE DEVIL. However, God tells me in some cases it's good for me. And God can use anyone, anytime, anyplace, He chooses, to do or to help train us all up. Hallelujah.+
---catherine on 8/13/10


More excellent way,
Ive been away from these blogs for a long time. I read every once and a while.
Its so sad that even the ones with great knowledge that I respected very much have stooped to judging just by people asking. People have come seeking the Lord and help with his word, not judgment.
I have been all over these blogs and its everywhere. The devil is certainly seeking and devouring, isn't he? the sad part is he's using "christians" to do it.
Backbiting and trying to judge whats in a person's heart when they don't even know the person on the other end of the screen.
God tells us not to do that. In fact thats why I stayed away so long. Hoping and praying it would change. Very sad indeed.
God bless!!
---ginger on 8/13/10


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Some things that people do or encourage others to do are so grievous that it would be irresponsible for us not to REBUKE them, but we should not be so presumptuous as to express OUR EMOTIONS on Gods' behalf. Instead, we should simply REPROVE.

Everybody must develop their own way of being just and gentle about how they react to other people (be "hot or cold").

Peter was a particularly vicious and worldly apostle, I never agreed with how he handled Ananias and his wife in Acts 5 (this apostle also denied Jesus 3 times).

Jude 1:9
"...he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you".

All in all, I'd rather leave the "rebuking" to The Lord.
---more_excellent_way on 8/5/10


more excellent way

If you must judge/REBUKE, make sure you are RIGHT (righteous judgement).

any body can justify they are right even though what they are judging is wrong.
ie.
job's friends accused him of SIN right away when job was suffering. they 'accused' him of hidden sin.

another ex.

tithe is the most abused book. you hear from the priest that you are robbing god.
malachi 1:6, 2:1-10, 3:1-5 says that it is the priest who are robbing god.
yet we are judge with robbing god when we don't give our tithe.
so who is going to 'judge/rebuke' these thieves. and when you do, they will defend themselves by saying 'ye not judge me' to justify their SINS.
---mike on 8/4/10


1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one".

If you must judge/REBUKE, make sure you are RIGHT (righteous judgement).
---more_excellent_way on 8/2/10

An excellant answer. Scriptural witnesses 2 or more should cause the rebuked to at least pause.
When the rebuked go against those that GOD chose....his witnesses,his prophets,his apostles.... one can dust feet at point of absolutely no light.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
---Trav on 8/3/10


When a person decides to be "judgemental", they are DECIDING whether another person should receive a PENALTY of shame, guilt, or humiliation. We must not have the desire that anyone be penalized (lest we have an UNholy spirit).

Of course, we must be wise enough to "judge"/DISCERN all situations and whether our participation would be holy and just.

A "spiritual" person (including an atheist/philosopher) must be wise enough to DISCERN the merit/demerit of EVERYTHING, but they must not be judged by anyone....

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one".

If you must judge/REBUKE, make sure you are RIGHT (righteous judgement).
---more_excellent_way on 8/2/10


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what is righteous judegement? any body can accuse & judge & call it righteous judgement.
---mike on 8/2/10


Instead of childishly complaining because you think people are attacking you when they disagree with you, get off the computer. Go down to the local food bank and volunteer. Go to the local nursing home and see what you can do to help a senior citizen who needs help. Maybe you can help them fill out paperwork or just visit with them or play cards. Get out of yourself and get into helping other people. Get into the Word and into prayer. That's what Christ told us to do.
---KarenD on 8/2/10


To attack another comments is like a child having a temper fit ... it's like crying out for attention, and can also be a form of, "It's my way or no way." It also has to be remembered that all bloggers on this Christian Blogs site are not all Christians. They are trying to prove their point and the only way they know how do it is by being nasty. However, being nasty is not just non-Christians. If a Christian has been raised to believe a certain way, they don't like it when that "way" is challenged, so instead of checking out the Scripture, (in the correct context), to see if the view presented is correct, they just have a "fit" and get nasty with anyone who disagrees with them.
---wivv on 8/2/10


Donna, I believe there is but a few here on line who want to attack your person and not what you are saying. I say about five or six persons. You have disagreed with what they said, and they take it personal. Then they look where you have answered on another blog and attack you there. And every chance they get they will gather like wolves, the same group, to keep the pressure on you, that brings comfort to their souls and amen's from their group. Most of what they say about you is false. There is nothing wrong in discussing Bible doctrines, but everything wrong in attacking the speakers. Don't ever leave the site because of someone like those, leave when you feel the Spirit moving you to do something else.
---MarkV. on 8/2/10


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To disagree is not an attack. When we cast aspersions at the other person that is an attack.

To say I disagree with your theology is a discussion. Speaking in love to others is the way we should be as followers of JESUS CHRIST.
---Samuel on 8/2/10


Lea, A-men. Jesus bless you too Lea, real good. The weeds sprout in the garden, but I just pray that they may become saved too so that their vanity will be turned into goodness.
---Eloy on 8/1/10


We should be careful of the words we use. I don't think.. attack describes everyone who comments on anothers response on this blogsite. Sometimes a person can be in error and another blogger may be trying to help him/her. That is not attacking. A born again Christian usually is led by the Holy Spirit and the words used are not offensive but gentle and humble. You do not feel offended or reprimanded because you can sense they are trying to correct. This is how the Holy Spirit works. The flip side: you can always tell when someone is not filled with the Spirit. They are fleshly and accusing. They accuse others and give their own wordly opinions. There is a difference. Of course everyone that blogs here is not saved. We should know this.
---Robyn on 8/1/10


God Bless You Eloy, very smart man and also one that has Wisdom not like another one on here that needs Salvation in Jesus Christ !
---Lea on 8/1/10


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2 TIMOTHY 2:24 AND THE SEVANT of the LORD must not strive but be gentle unto all men apt. to teach,patient.

2:25 In meekness intructing those that appose themselves: IF GOD peradventure will give them give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth
(peradventure means maybe)
---RICHARD on 8/1/10


\\Jesus commands: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." Jn.7:24.
---Eloy on 7/31/10\\

Too bad you don't obey Him, Eloy.
---Cluny on 8/1/10


Although it is presumed that all of us on this site are adults, it does not mean that they are all not children. Quite often I find that there are some emotionally immature people on this site. Also, I do not agree with the notion that we are not to call a cult what it is. We are to preach against false doctrine and false shepherds.
---KarenD on 7/31/10


Nursey:

"Is CNN your bible?
---jerry6593 on 7/31/10

Such a typical, expected response. Jerry, instead of attacking the messenger why don't you try responding to the message."

Did you miss the header of "his message"?

"From a CNN article:"

Apparently you've been embracing the politics of Communism so long, you're beginning to accept their religion as well - atheism.
---jerry6593 on 8/1/10


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any verse in the bible has one meaning,there are not as some believe an infinite number of iterpretations of the truth.
---tom2 on 7/31/10


-Anne Rice was never a follower of Christ.
1John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
"For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider."
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
-He produces the fruit in us as the Vine feeds the branches.
---micha9344 on 7/31/10


where is the line bet. accusing & rebuking? the problem is many are experts in quoting the bible but they cannot give SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OR ANALOGIES SO OTHERS WILL NOT BE BRAINWASHED.
one verse can have many explanations & one verse cannot 'blanket approach' your questions.
when others correct a 'teaching' is that accusing & vise versa?
---mike on 7/31/10


Donna, I find it interesting though that when someone gives an answer or opinion they are accused of attacking. You know I did not attack YOU. You need to get out of the way and not take it personally. Good soldiers don't get their own emotions entangled in God's Word. When we do, then we think WE are attacked. WE needs to stand aside.

Stephen was certainly attacked and stoned to death for telling the truth. I'm sure in their pride/anger they felt Stephen was wrong. Lets look at Stephens response...Did he cry, whine, go from city to city naming names of those who hated his message falsely accusing them....? NO!!!! We are as sheep always being delivered over to be slaughtered !
---kathr4453 on 7/31/10


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I don't wonder she refuses to be "anti-gay, anti-feminist," anti-science and anti-Democrat"

The pity of it is is that she thinks that you have to be those things to be a Christian
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/31/10


Atheist,We don't know what kind of person Anne Rice is,strong,or weak. As Christians we aren't suspose to dwell on the negative or wrong in this world we are to pray about it for only God can change anything. I won't fill my soul with the darkness of stories of vampires,werewolves,etc because I want to live in Light not the dark ugly things,even made up darkness,of the world,including prejudice. I think this verse says it well it is Christ speaking,I will keep in perfect peace he whose mind is stayed on me. The Bible says Satan comes to steal,kill,and destroy. If a Christian doesn't keep their minds stayed on Godly things not the evil,they become easy prey for Satan. Love should be our focus,just as it is God's who gave Christ for mankinds sins.
---Darlene_1 on 7/31/10


Is CNN your bible?
---jerry6593 on 7/31/10

Such a typical, expected response. Jerry, instead of attacking the messenger why don't you try responding to the message.

Donna, this is like an extended family. We don't agree with each other and are not afraid to speak up. It is safe to say we are passionate about what we believe. There are going to be disagreements, arguments and fights.
---NurseRobert on 7/31/10


Jesus commands: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." Jn.7:24.
---Eloy on 7/31/10


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//It's simply impossible for me to belong to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried...//

She sounds so self-righteous I wonder if she really ever knew what grace was. If a bunch of immature believers are enough to cause her to give up the faith, then her relationship was never with God through Jesus Christ, who never failed to be who He is. We were never called to try. We were called to believe and to press on. Her contempt makes her as immature as the people she left. Covenant breaker is the word that comes to me. If she were as adamant about seeing Christ in the church as she was about finding an excuse to leave, I am sure her prayers would have made a bigger difference.
---Linda on 7/31/10


Donna, The rotten tree produces bad fruit, and the Christian tree produces fruit from Christ, for out of the mouth the heart will speak. There are not only Christians who post on this site, but there are many nonChristians and antiChrist and antiGod people whom post on this site also.
---Eloy on 7/31/10


When one gets to the point he or she "thinks" they are Bible scholars(which no one is) instead of Bible students (which everyone should be)you run into egotistical conflict.
---michael_e on 7/31/10


Leslie in reply to your statement about this blog.

my dad use to say "you can lead them to the water but you cant make them drink it"there are some that are so hard headed it takes a 2x4 to get their attention after awhile.

and this is not referring to you Donna, not at all.


Just as God is the source of all authority, Satan is author of all rebellion. We may recall that the Devil (Lucifer), a former archangel, was originally cast out of Heaven because he led an insurrection against God (Isa. 14:12-15). Rebellion is the very spirit of Satans attitude (Eph. 2:2), and if we permit it to dominate us it will infect and taint our attitude toward all authority, including God and His Word.
---Lea on 7/31/10


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Some replies are informative & some are not.
When I reply, I'm Not going to cheapen The Gospel for No one. That would cause my soul to be lost, the devil & those he has swayed ain't worth it.
---Lawrence on 7/31/10


'atheist': Two questions:

Do people in atheist families, blog sites, workplaces, etc. argue or not?

Is CNN your bible?
---jerry6593 on 7/31/10


From a CNN article:

Anne Rice has announced that shes quitting Christianity. The Interview with a Vampire author, who wrote a book about her spirituality titled "Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession" in 2008, said Wednesday that she refuses to be anti-gay, anti-feminist," anti-science and anti-Democrat.

Rice wrote, For those who care, and I understand if you don't: Today I quit being a Christian ... It's simply impossible for me to belong to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else.


Something for you all to think about...
---atheist on 7/30/10


When a child makes a mistake on an arithmetic text, is the teacher "attacking" or "accusing" the student by marking it wrong?
---Cluny on 7/30/10


I think that depends on the person.

I know for me, I felt like I was being both.
Especially since I knew I could do better and so did she. But I am so thankful she was that way. It pushed me to achieve what she and I both knew I could. It kept me on my toes and from slacking. In fact, I thank her for it. She was the reason why I was able to go on and pass College Algebra with an A+.

Great comparison though, bro!
---miche3754 on 7/30/10


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Sometimes I send a blog question and the Moderator chooses not to post it. I look on that as the same thing as blog responses to the ones of mine the Moderator does choose to use. Whatever the case of opinion difference, we can learn from it, which is the purpose of the site I believe.
---Geraldine on 7/30/10


first ,lets be realistic about the nature of human beings. Most never do ,or never will take correction well,from early childhood we all rebel against it.We all want to be correct,some to the point of arrogance, even when it is apparent we are wrong. When done against Gods word,or commands, its called sin.When you read the new testament its apparent that many disagreed with jesus,and many with the apostles,and were angry to the point of crucifying jesus,and ultimately all of the apostles.So you see its the nature of humans,but remember many who may seem to be attacking, are merely correcting,and even more dont like or accept this correction.people will always believe lies,correct in love and your never wrong.
---tom2 on 7/30/10


When people attack the persons denomination/church calling them cults, that is wrong initself because there are true people within these that truly serve the Lord.You can agree to disagree when it comes to this, but tearing people down is ungodly. Now when you are reading scripture itself setting churches aside & the person belittles you because they don't agree with your thoughts that is also wrong. We share scripture in lvoe, pray for guidance by God for them to seek truth & move on.
---candice on 7/30/10


When a follower is correcting, teaching another believer or unbeliever, we are to treat them with kindness and gentleness. It is OK to disagree on non-essentials of the faith, but we should never divide, as the body of Christ, the church, over the essentials. We can debate, but we should never divide.
---Bruce on 7/30/10


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If People see someone they want to share verses with,do it without attacking. Good manners,and Christian behavior are not out of style. Too many times some on here show their displeasure with anothers answer by calling them names. Not only calling names but going too far and judging their walk with God and telling them they aren't saved. Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother?Or why do you set at naught your brother?For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of God. Romans 14:13 Let us not judge one another anymore but judge this rather that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brothers way. Galatians 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory,provoking one another,enyving one another.
---Darlene_1 on 7/30/10


I am glad you brought this up Donna, the world is so evil and mean but i see so many on here that profess to be Christ like and by their words the heart speaks.

And Cluny we are far from being Children on here.

Intelligence is one thing but to come against each person on here and try to make yourself look better will only make others not like you.

some good wisdom for you would be to listen more , you may learn something.
---Lea on 7/30/10


"let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath, for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God." (In James 1:19-20)

"He who answers a matter before he hears it,
.It is folly and shame to him." (Proverbs 18:13)

So, we are to listen and make sure we understand people. But, also, "Test all things, hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21) So, I would say to test does mean to evaluate, therefore to judge.

And God has used people who can see through me, to help me with correction. Jesus came "that He might destroy the works of the devil." (in 1 John 3:8) So, we need to be able to tell the difference between when to listen and when to attack.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/30/10


When a child makes a mistake on an arithmetic text, is the teacher "attacking" or "accusing" the student by marking it wrong?
---Cluny on 7/30/10


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as long as there are (unbilical) denominations, there will be disagreements
---michael_e on 7/30/10


Karen,
How can you say such a thing??? You are sooo lost! Repent or Burn!

Sorry... Just kidding!
I actually like the fact that it bothers a lot of us that Christian bloggers' attacks can be so biting and cruel.
No one of us is absolutely right about everything. This should make us all quick to hear and slow to rant in a blog response.

Grace to all! Whether I agree with you or not! Or whether you agree with me or not.

SHIELDS UP MR. SULU! THE KLINGONS ARE CLOAKED!
---Legends on 7/30/10


Donna - What you have said is right to an extent. When someone is misunderstanding God and His Word, or don't know, and you give them scripture to back it up, and they accept it - then yes you are right, we should not attack. When someone misinterprets the Word, and you show them scripture to back it up, and they continue to argue it - then you are wrong, we should attack. Jesus was our example in this. He was hardest on the Pharasees and religious leaders - because they would argue when He showed the truth. Jesus HIGHLY attacked them. In a world of false teachers and heretics, we are to do exactly what Jesus did, to show the (true) sheep from the (false) goats.
---Leslie on 7/30/10


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