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Do you believe Satan, his forces, and his servsnts have infiltrated and influenced the Church and Christianity?
If so, to what extent?

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Well trav I basically agree. But there are many Christians in many denominations.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/30/15


Satan, his forces, and his servants have infiltrated and influenced the Church and Christianity.
The result is denominations.
---michael_e on 1/27/15

In this we are in agreement. One only has to look at all the prophets that are never established or used for witnesses in the churches today.
Weak effeminate preachers.
Jer_23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Jer_23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people, Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
---Trav on 1/29/15


Jesus cast demons out of people in the Synagogues.

Matthew: 4:23-24

Mark: 1:23-27, 39

Luke: 4:33-36
---aservant on 1/29/15


Satan, his forces, and his servants have infiltrated and influenced the Church and Christianity.
The result is denominations.
---michael_e on 1/27/15


One note only Lawrence. Sounds like some weird chant.

Yes Satan influences people in churches. Sometimes giving them a one note chant.


John 14:23,24

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

I believe we all need to listen to Jesus.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 1/27/15




Cluny

Put the period before I'm. Then you'll be closer to be orthodox.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/27/15


\\I'm brainwashed in Truth.
\\

Put the period before "in", and you'll be closer to the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/26/15


Yes he does & I ignore him.

Luke.
I'm brainwashed in Truth.
For the 3 persons godhead believers commandments doctrines of men in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 Is Bible prophesy, which Are many peoples, even those that worship other dif gods buddha, hindu etc. the atheist, agnostics, sexual perverts etc makes even more peoples Mat.7 v 13, being All part of the literal gates of hell & shall not prevail against the Acts Church of The Living God.

The Acts Church of The Living God, which are few, Mat.7 v 14.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/26/15


Catherine, thanks for asking and would love to give it again but, it seems that every time I do, someone always like's to pick on it, they like to look for mistakes, so my testimony on line only serves for some to belittle what I say. To me testimonies are very good for true believers to incourage and lift those who are down and short of faith, but to others they are but ways to find fault in you. Hey, is "belittle" a word? Oh, my english is not very good so I am going to get in trouble. The group here on this blog are very strict on spelling of words.
---MarkV. on 8/17/10


YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES! God hates hypocrites. Jesus, while He walked here among us in the flesh, had a lot of problems with the hypocrites. He didn't like them then and He has not changed, not one iota. MarkV>>>Give us your Great "Salvation" Testimony!
---catherine on 8/16/10




Do you believe Satan, his forces, and his servsnts have infiltrated and influenced the Church and Christianity?
If so, to what extent?---Blog question


He provoked David to number Israel. Entered into an Apostle....why not a church/bldg denom. He will have a Synagogogue. There are already worshippers of the Anti-Christ people bound for this synagogue.
So why not.
Luke 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
---Trav on 8/13/10


aka, you silwy wilwy wabbit.
---Eloy on 8/11/10


eloy, sorry...i was kidding around.
---aka on 8/11/10


aka, "irrecareless" is not a word because you added the unnecessary "re" between the prefix and the root word. To give emphasis to the word "careless", it would be better to add a suffix to the word, like: "carelessferous" or "carelessness".
---Eloy on 8/11/10


Eloy,

Do you mean do not care irrecareless?
---aka on 8/9/10


micha9344, They are similar, but not the same, because the prefix "ir-" is an intensifier to the root. Just as "beloved" is similar to "loved", but they are not equal because the prefix "be-" is an intensifier to the root word "loved": and "Almighty God" is similar to "Mighty God", but the former has a stronger meaning than the latter, so likewise "irregardless" has a more emphasized connotation than "regardless".
---Eloy on 8/8/10


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Either way, 'irregardless' is still pleonastic in that 'regardless' has the same meaning.
---micha9344 on 8/8/10


micha9344, irregardless of your agreement with the common misinterpretation, both the etymological record of the word being proper, and its current proper usage stands, and irregardless of any persons unknowing the word will continue to be properly used.
---Eloy on 8/8/10


After reseaching several sources, I agree with Cluny and aka. 'irregardless' is a nonstandard word regardless of, irrelevant to, without regard to, and in spite of comments to the contrary.
---micha9344 on 8/8/10


aka, I have no care for what nonoriginators have to say about words which they themselves have not created, but have only gleaned from individuals and cultures and compiled them together into a book and attached what they "think" the words mean. The word "irregardless" means exactly what I posted. "irregardless" properly and literally means= lacking in regard, without regarding, inspite of. The ignorant attach the wrong meaning "not" to the word "regardless", and therefore misperceive a nonstandard usage: but the learned, as myself, attach the right meaning "in" to the word "regardless", and therefore we know the word is very proper and also we know the proper usage.
---Eloy on 8/8/10


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Cluny, I have elaborated to you on how the ignorant have wrongly perceived the proper word "irregardless" to be some substandard usage because of wrongly defining the prefix to mean "not" rather than "in". The word "irregardless" is considered substandard only to the unlearned who do not know this fact, but the word "irregardless" is known to be very proper to those of us whom are knowledgeable of its origin and its usage, and we therefore knowing the correct definition commonly utilize the word in our language with the full confidence of its intended use. And the ignorant whom choose to misinterpret the word and choose to remain in not knowing, that is their own substandard foolishness.
---Eloy on 8/8/10


Satan and his forces spend a lot of time on ChristiaNet also.
---Elder on 8/8/10


//..."irregardless" properly and literally means = lacking in regard, without regarding, inspite of. //

regard - In its noun form, 'regard' is attention to or concern for something. 'Regardless' is without regard. Depending on the word that precedes the prefixes: in-, il-, ir-, im- , which means without. 'Irregardless' is not without regard, which means with regard.

Even though the modern society has forced 'irregardless' into the modern dictionaries, it is considered nonstandard. It is neither a literal word translated properly nor is it a proper word.
---aka on 8/7/10


Hello Aka, good question. Let me say that the tares are there because of the curse that God put on fallen man. God could have just forgiven them then and move on. But everything was to change because of what Adam did. Sure, satan was behind the temptation but he didn't cause them to sin, Adam sinned because he wanted to listen to Eve and not obey God. He was not decieved.
And when I said we have enough tares in the Church, what I meant was, that we have problems with so many tares that satan does not even have to be there to cause havioc. Many in the charasmatic movement make satan so powerful that he is everywhere. Just not possible was why I answered. I hope I helped put a balance on what I said.
---MarkV. on 8/7/10


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\\"irregardless" properly and literally means= lacking in regard, without regarding, inspite of.
---Eloy on 8/7/10\\

"Irregardless" is considered substandard use.
---Cluny on 8/7/10


cliff, Unlearned people mistake this word as an improper redundancy by wrongly defining the prefix "ir-", by misinterprating the prefix to mean "not", but the correct defintion of this word's prefix is an intensifier to the root, meaning "in": For the prefix "ir-" in "irregardless" is much like the prefix a-, as in "anoint" and "among" means "on" or "to" + oil and "on" + mingling: rather than meaning "not" or "without" as in "amoral" or "atheist". (ir-,in + regard + -less,lacking), thus, "irregardless" properly and literally means= lacking in regard, without regarding, inspite of.
---Eloy on 8/7/10


Yes!!! And he sits on the front row also. Satan and his forces have introduced doubt and confusion in the Christian world. He has continually and constantly tricked the human mind to believe that works will bring about salvation.
---mima on 8/6/10


KarenD, I translate the Scriptures from their original Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek, and yes, long long ago I researched the sources of the first English translations. The 1611 A.D. King James Version, though it has some inaccuracies, still it is one of the best English translations produced after the more excellent Geneva Bible published in 1560 A.D. Returning to the poster's question, it is evident that darkness and nonChristed powerless words have replaced the unadulterated Holy Word. One needs only to compare the words a new uninspired bible side-by-side with the words of the Holy Bible, and the one doing the comparing will see the evident corruption.
---Eloy on 8/6/10


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Hey, Mark,

I think we need to strike a balance. It is the Holy Spirit that brings understanding of the Scriptures. So, if someone has a question, they will ask. Eg. Paul calls Satan a god in 2 Corinthians 4:4. Undoubtedly, cultists will use this to cast doubt, but I do not fear it will cause a new one in Christ to stumble.

Anyway, when Robyn said 'Satan', I believe she was talking about Satan's Kingdom and not just Satan Himself. You say that we have enough tares, so we do not add Satan to the mix, but without Satan those tares do not exist. After all, when we say Hitler took over Europe, we do not think he was a one-man machine, but we know what it means.
---aka on 8/6/10


Eloy, I'm not going to dump on you, just a little note...There's no such word as "irregardless"(8/3/10)
A common mistake, no big deal!
---1st_cliff on 8/6/10


Eloy...Did you have to research that answer? What about the translators who were not Christians? What about all the translations prior to that version? I find it strange that you would include the comment that the 1611 version was dedicated to King James. Did it ever occur to you that translators who were hired by King James might make the translation suitable to him?
---KarenD on 8/6/10


MarkV "Rob, this Eloy is not an imposter, this is the real Eloy. "

I was a regular but I have not been hanging aroung theses blogs for some time. I dip in occasionaly now and I was wondering about the fact that "Eloy" is using capitals for first names which is something he would not do before.
---Bruce5656 on 8/6/10


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Cluny ... Thanks !!

When did the term King James Bible surface ... sometime in the 19th Century, then? It certainly started as an Amercanism, I think?

King James never put his name to it!
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/5/10


\\It was not until the 20th Century that Americans called it the King James Version, or KJV\\

Actually the AV of 1611 and its various revisions were called the King James Bible in the USA before the 20th century, but this is a minor point.

However, I'm wiling to bet that the one preferred by the KJVO cultitsts is NOT actually the version of 1611.
---Cluny on 8/5/10


Eloy ... The 1611 Bible has only recently been named after the King who commissioned the translation.

At first it was just known as the Holy Bible, and its use was authorised by King James.

Later, it was entitled the Authorised Version.

It was not until the 20th Century that Americans called it the King James Version, or KJV

And it has to be noted that the translators did not claim perfection for their work, nor that it should remain forever unchanged.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/5/10


Rob, this Eloy is not an imposter, this is the real Eloy. He has been here for years. His answers are the same to everyone who disagrees and his deity is still the same. He is perfectly sinless, he is the only one who I have heard say that he was the light that Jesus saw on the Cross while dying. No one can say that and still face others with no shame, for he does believe it.
---MarkV. on 8/4/10


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KarenD, In 1604 English bishops and Puritan leaders met with King James I in the Hampton Court Conference, and there King James set 54 scholars for the revision of the "Bishops Bible". The scholars relied heavily upon the Geneva Bible for their translation, but they omitted the marginal notes which enraged the king and his servants in the church. The committee of churchmen led by theologian Lancelot Andrewes, and the finest scholars in England, produced the "King James Bible". In 1611 A.D. it was dedicated to King James, and was published and authorized in England.
---Eloy on 8/5/10


eloy....You didn't answer my question. Who is King James?
---KarenD on 8/4/10


KarenD, I was unaware in the past there was another Eloy, and this current Eloy is an imposter who has hi-jacked the previous Eloy's screen name. Thank you for sharing this.

This places this current Eloy in the catagory of those mentioned in 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, which explains alot about this current Eloy.
---Rob on 8/4/10


Thats proof right there. God is not the author of confusion.
---JackB on 8/3/10

Amen to that Brother, Amen to that.
People seem to forget that God is wise.
When wisdom is taught, the teachings are simple, understandable, and to the point, and can be taught to others by the hearer of these words, they are not these teachings that make no sense to the hearer of the word.

How can we make them disciples of Jesus Christ when the message is confusing for them, there is no understanding and they can not teach it to others?
---David on 8/4/10


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Hello Aka, good morning to you. I do believe it is important to state facts when it concerns Scripture. The reason is because by not correcting what someone says, can lead others in the wrong direction. There is already some denominations that makes him (the enemy) like a god. And it's important we understand the attributes of the enemy in order to give answers that will not lead anyone estray.
Omnipresence means to be able to be in every place at one time and only God can do that. We already have enough tares in the churches to even consider the enemy in every Church. Understanding God's abilities should be the first topic we should learn. Many already make the enemies abilities equal and in some cases greater then God's.
---MarkV. on 8/4/10


Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

What Robyn wrote is not about omnipresence. It is the truth. If she needs to say Satan and his minions, wake up! There are the enemy's tares (Satan) all around.
---aka.joseph on 8/3/10


KarenD, You will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 8/3/10


Rob,

I would say about 99.9% of the so-called churches have been infiltrated by Satan and his forces.

Most are nothing more than Politically Correct (One of Satan tools) social clubs teaching "The traditions of men as Doctrine of G-d" and nothing else.

As Jesus said...

"When I return, will I find The Faith on Earth?"

Sadly the answer is NO!!!
---John on 8/3/10


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Satan is not omnipotent, as a matter of fact the creature is a defeated loser under the feet of every true Christian. His unspeakable torment will be exceedingly great, and it will have no end for ever.
---Eloy on 8/3/10


I have to disagree with Robyn and agree with Micha and with Alan that only God is Omnipresent. Satan is but one created being. No powers to put him everywhere at every church and teaching, and singing all at one time in every church. He might visit your church but he has to make a timeable visit. His influence can be in many places since many give him more credit then he deserves. He gets all the help from many who believe he is everywhere. The problem in many churches is fallen man. It's been a problem since the Apostolic times. The visible church has wheat and tares mixed together. Sometimes there is more tares then wheat as leaders, and that is the time when they go bad.
---MarkV. on 8/3/10


Robyn, in the past we have disagreed and had conflicts on some things.

But I agree with you 100% regarding what you have written on 8/3/10.
---Rob on 8/3/10


Satan can only be in one church at a time, unlike Christ that can be wherever 2 or 3 is gathered in His name.
---micha9344 on 8/3/10


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Rob: Are you kidding? Satan has taken up residence in the churches of God. He has full occupancy. Goes to and fro everyday. Looking for whomever he may devour. He sings in the choir,can preach,teach. Has many talents. He is a clever and eloquent speaker. He has untold power. He will destroy you if you are not rooted and grounded in Jesus Christ. Watch out!
---Robyn on 8/3/10


Eloy....Do you know that "King James" is not a Bibilical figure?
---KarenD on 8/3/10


Rob...How is it that Eloy preaches one thing on this blog question, yet raves about "some" of the preachers on TBN? I believe that is what is called double-minded and is not of God. It is too bad that the original Eloy can no longer post on these blogs because this imposter is using his name
---KarenD on 8/3/10


\\This means no new fandangled bibles published after the 1611 A.D. King James Bible,\\

Which recension of the 1611 KJV do you accept, Eloy?

The lastest recension from the UK is the one of 1769.

Or do you mean the one by the American Bible Society of 1904, normalized according to American spellings?

Cambridge or Oxford exemplar?

And the WHOLE KJV? Or one with a great big hole in it?
---Cluny on 8/3/10


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Eloy, it is amazing.

With one side you your mouth you have written" HOWEVER IF THESE FEW CHURCHES WANT TO REMAIN FAITHFUL TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, THEN THEY MUST BE DILIGENT IN KEEPING OUT OF THEIR CHURCHES ALL UNHOLY BIBLES, AND FALSE SPEAKERS. THIS MEANS NO NEW FANGLED BIBLES PUBLISHED AFTER THE 1611 A.D. KING JAMES BIBLE, AND NO WOMEN NOR HERETICAL SPEAKERS PERMITTED IN THE PULPIT".

Yet with the other side of your mouth you condemn people who show diligence, and you support and defend the very people and networks who do, promote, and broadcast these very things you have mentioned.

Eloy, have you ever read what is written in James 1:7-8?
---Rob on 8/3/10


Inspite of all the apostacy in these last days, I still believe that there are a few faithful churches who minister the uncompromised New Testament from Jesus Christ. However if these few churches want to remain faithful to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, then they must be diligent in keeping out of their churches all unholy bibles, and false speakers. This means no new fandangled bibles published after the 1611 A.D. King James Bible, and no women nor heretical speakers permitted in the pulpits. Else these few churches whom have the unadulterated love of God will also be out of the way with the rest of the fallen.
---Eloy on 8/3/10


Steveng, I do not think that the different denominations are the problem in the church. Denominations are mere titles which advertize what type of church that the Christian church is. But the main problem today in the churches, irregardless of the denomination or title that they call themselves, is that they have removed Christ from the church. The Christian church is Christ's church, therefore the Christian should be coming to the sanctuary to hear from Christ, to minister Christ, to worship Christ, to pray to Christ, to sing to Christ, to heal in the name of Christ. But so many churches today do not do this, and people leave the church in the selfsame way or in a worse condition then when they entered the church, and this ought not to be.
---Eloy on 8/3/10


Do you believe Satan, his forces, and his servsnts have infiltrated and influenced the Church and Christianity?


Absolutely.

How many Christian denominations are there?

Thats proof right there. God is not the author of confusion.
---JackB on 8/3/10


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rob,while we live here on earth in the flesh we can all be fooled,tricked,tempted,but the core truth of the church can never be defeated,it resides in what jesus did,and who he is,satan has neen defeated,he just wont admitt it,and until the end and judgement he never will.
---tom2 on 8/2/10


Steveng I agree with you. however for me I choose to be where i am at for the fellowship, but I donot degrade(putdown) my sister in law & her husband & children for being Southern baptist or my husband & his parents for being Lutherans though my husband is inactive & supports the congregation I & the children associate with.God taught me to look beyond the denomination & look at the individual how the fruit of God is growing in them.
---Candice on 8/2/10


Rob, you speak falsehood because there is no light in you.
---Eloy on 8/2/10


Christians are the church. Christians do not need to belong to a denominational church to have a relationship with the Father and Jesus.

Denominational churches, on the other hand, are a creation of satan. Satan has divided christianity into their own little cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living, and intepretations of the bible. Denominational churches cause christians to bicker among each other, even within the same denomination, saying "Our churche has a better pastor," "Our church has better entertainment," Our church..." and the list goes on.

If all these denominations are christian, where is the unity?
---Steveng on 8/2/10


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Eloy, what you wrote is indeed pretty bad. But has people read through these blogs, you give your approval and support to these very things and these very people.
---Rob on 8/2/10


Satan always attacks first at the point of relationships so that includes anywhere humans interact such as churches, schools and homes.
If Satan boldy enter the "garden" he'll go anywhere.

If he can't hinder a prayerful and humble congregation he will attack the weak within individually in hopes of schizmata.
---larry on 8/2/10


It's pretty bad, many have had their candelsticks removed and have become synagogues of Satan. Many have replaced the Holy Bible with unholy bibles and newspapers and magazines. They preach blaphemies and false doctrines without shame. They quench the Spirit. They have church politics, rather than treating each member as family. They fleece the sheep of their money, sinfully charging tithes and money for salvation.
---Eloy on 8/2/10


Cluny If there are millions upon millions of them (demons)..who created them, I wonder?

Does Satan have creation abilities? If not, God must have made the demons. Why would He do that? ... to help Satan?
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/1/10

alan8566_of_uk - I must admit, I love your sense of humor or rather some of your responses make me chuckle.

Who created the millions of demons? In Isaiah, it says that satan was thrown out of heaven and he took millions of angels with him to turn them against God. My question would be WHY would anyone, human or angel, want to be without God? and hate God so much? That's awful.
---Donna5535 on 8/2/10


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2 CORINTHIANS 11:13 For there false apostles deceitful worker transforming them sevles into the apostle of CHRIST
11:14 And no marvel satan is transformed into a angel of light.
11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his misisters of righteouss-----------
MARK 13:22 FOR false CHRIST and false prophets shall rise,and shall shew signs and wonders to seduce ,If possible even the elect.
---RICHARD on 8/1/10


Cluny ... If there are millions upon millions of them (demons) .... who created them, I wonder?

Does Satan have creation abilities? If not, God must have made the demons. Why would He do that? ... to help Satan?
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/1/10


Yes you can witness this on any given Sunday in a few of our local churches,jumping up and down, mumbling unintelligible speech, laying on the floor,laughing uncontrolled.
It has even been seen on TV documentaries!
---1st_cliff on 8/1/10


Who do you think caused the divisions in the Church?
How do you think he created these divisions?
Throughout the New Testament we are warned of the teaching of the Anti-Christ, sadly though, many followers do not know how to identify these teachings.

The prefix Anti- means to be opposed to.
The word Anti-Christ simply means to be opposed to Christ.
If the Anti-Christ is opposed to Christ, so will his teachings.
If a teaching opposes the Truth, it is therefore a lie.

Here's a teaching just for practice:
Jesus said "Everybody who sins is a Slave to sin."
Many followers believe, that even though they sin, they are not slaves to sin.
Is this a teaching is from the anti-Christ?
---David on 8/1/10


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\\Jesus said the worst thing a man can do is "run his mouth".\\

Can you give Book, Chapter, and Verse for this?

**So there must be millions upon millions of demons ... one for each human being, and a few extra to reside in the churches.**

This is the main theme in C. S. Lewis's classic THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS.

It's probable. Not something I worry myself about.
---Cluny on 7/31/10


He wants the worship. Where else would he show up? Many services, you hear more about the devil than Christ. He gets exactly what he wants. However, if there were more people who fellowshipped every day with the Father, he would even show up at your house for that worship. The fact that he shows up at church tells you when most people spend time worshipping God.
---Linda on 7/31/10


Some times already there, comes along with people. For he'l do anything to disrupt people & the service.
---Lawrence on 7/31/10


Jesus said the worst thing a man can do is "run his mouth".This superceeds the idea of anyone visible or invisible contaminating anothers life.Man's mouth corrupts and contaminates himself and his surroundings far beyond that of an invisible entity's ability.To offset man's inability to control himself he says the devil made him do it or the devil is in the mix and causing trouble when it is obvious that he decieves himself and makes others believe him.
---earl on 7/31/10


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An interesting question!

It's been said by many here that unlike God, Satan can only be in one place at a time.

So there must be millions upon millions of demons ... one for each human being, and a few extra to reside in the churches.
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/31/10


While individual Christians are subject to temptations and fall, the Church as the Body of Christ is indefectible.

That is, she cannot fail in her mission.
---Cluny on 7/31/10


YES! There are many adversaries creeping into the churches "body of people/fellowship" every week. Whether it's the teachings or just the people attending. Stick to scripture & God & let God weed out the rest. For example if you here your pastor teach something (or SS teacher) teach something not lined up with scripture, then you can privatly let them know your concern & if they do not correct it, please find a congregation that teaches closer to the truth because no 1 church is perfect.
---candice on 7/31/10


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