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Demons Fill My Mind

Can the devil fill your mind with thoughts that you don't want to think and block those which make you happy? I'm being tormented by them and they seem to come out of nowhere. It happened before but it seemed to have stopped until I got baptized yesterday. How do you get rid of them? Could it be a test?

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Cluny, what I am saying, is exactly what I post.
---Eloy on 10/27/10


Bruce, "blaspheme" (comes from the words, "blame" + "profess or voice"). Thus "blasphemy" means, to speak evil of or to God, or, evil of or to sacred persons or sacred things: profaning: desecrating words: desecrating speaker: sacrilege: dis: disser: disgrace: malign: mock: defame: denigrate: and so on, and so on. It is having a spirit of desecration, which mockingly ascribes the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan. It is calling good evil, the truth a lie, and the Holy unholy. When God's Spirit genuinely works through a person (as He did through Jesus' miracles), and another person (like the Jewish Ministers and Legalists) disses it or disgraces it, that is blasphemy.
---Eloy on 10/27/10


\\pete3594, I have the discernment from Christ, and I know where souls are by their fruits.\\

So, what are we to say of the fruits of a soul who claims to be God, as only God can be blasphemed?
---Cluny on 10/27/10


Eloy,
Blasphemy eh?

defined as:
a. A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.
b. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.

hmmmmmm...
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/10


\\And I have ignored people's blasphemies personally against me in the past ...\\

Since you are not God, Eloy, you cannot be blasphemed.
---Cluny on 10/27/10




pete3594, I have the discernment from Christ, and I know where souls are by their fruits. You may feel that my words may seem stronger than my evidence, but I place more weight upon righteousness than upon feelings.
---Eloy on 10/27/10


Eloy: while we may have many disagreements about things, it is not our (even your) place to say people are not saven, when our only evidence is their comments here. If you know those people better, then it ispossible you can say that, but from what I can imagine, your statement is too strong for the evidence you actually have.
---pete3594 on 10/26/10


Donna, It is plain that there are many unsaved dissers by what they post, and we are told that there will be mockers and blasphemers against our Christianity, but nonetheless Christ commands us to shine our light, and not hide the truth just because of dissers. I am a Christian soldier for Christ, and bear the double-edged sword. And I have ignored people's blasphemies personally against me in the past when I felt that their obstinance was no longer penetratable from my evangelism and they were just contnually dissing, but I feel that Cluny is still a little receptive.
---Eloy on 10/26/10


\\Eloy and Cluny, I can't believe that you two are bickering about the meaning of this word or that word and I posted an APOLOGY to Kimberly for this happening.\\

We're not bickering, Donna.

Eloy is claiming knowledge of Biblical Greek which he clearly does NOT have.

He can't even manage English properly, as when he wrongly states that "sinuous" is derived from the word "sin."

"Sinuous" comes from the Latin.

The English word "sin" comes from GERMANIC roots.
---Cluny on 10/26/10


Eloy and Cluny, I can't believe that you two are bickering about the meaning of this word or that word and I posted an APOLOGY to Kimberly for this happening.

Can't you two STOP this? Why not?

Because both of you have a spirit of pride and you want to flex your spiritual, intellectual muscles.

Isn't it more important that Kimberly gets advice here from Godly men and women who know the answer to her question?

Why argue Cluny and Eloy? sheesh!!!
---Donna5535 on 10/26/10




It's obvious that not only do you not know Biblical Greek, Eloy, but once more you've proven that your grasp of English is questionable.

While "present" can be a synonym for both "gift" or "in this place" in English, it does not follow that it has both meanings in Greek, much less that its two meanings in English are interchangeable..

In fact, it doesn't.

Furthermore, I'm not the only Greek speaker you will find who will disagree with you.
---Cluny on 10/25/10


Cluny, again you err. The greek phrase is, "deuro exo", which is literally translated from the greek, "here present". But "come forth" is an imprecise rendering of the old greek. "exo" is a word indicating direction, and "deuro" is derived from the old greek word "doro" meaning "gift", "present", "offer". Therefore, Jesus literally commanded the dead Lazarus, "Lazarus, Here present". Which means, Lazarus, Be here in front of me. And the dead Lazarus came forward, and he presented himself to the Commander, just as the Lord God commanded him.
---Eloy on 10/25/10


\\ And when Jesus told Lazarus who was dead four days and stinking in the tomb, "Lazaraus, Here present." And he that was dead came forward.
---Eloy on 10/25/10\\

Do you just not know Greek, or are you deliberately mistranslating the Bible?

"Devro exo" can mean either "come forth" or "come out," but NOT "here present."
---Cluny on 10/25/10


Kimberly, I want to apologize to you for some of the responses to your question.

As you can see, they get into attacking one another's theology, responses, opinions, etc., and get off of the question you originally asked.

You asked if you can get rid of the thoughts that are torturing you - YES you can.

Put your hands on your head and say, "I command you in Jesus name to GO in the name of Jesus." Then say, "I plead the blood of Jesus over my mind." Do this as much as you can especially when you go to bed at night and wake up in the morning.

I can walk you though getting delivered from this torment, they are demons attacking you. Write me here at Donna5535 and I will help you.
---Donna5535 on 10/25/10


Correction, "...he was telling him NOT to sin,..."
---Eloy on 10/25/10


Cluny, God does not command people to sin, God commands people to obey him, not obey sin. When God told Abraham to sacrifice his son, he was telling him to sin, but testing Abraham's love and faith. You see when your Maker tells you to do something, and you really love him, then you will do exactly as he commands you to do, no matter how unnatural it may be comprehended by you. When God tells a cripple to Stand: and if that person has the faith, the person when he believes the Lord God Jesus, that person "will" do exactly as commanded and "will stand". And when Jesus told Lazarus who was dead four days and stinking in the tomb, "Lazaraus, Here present." And he that was dead came forward.
---Eloy on 10/25/10


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When people commit multiple murders, there is little difference between the excuses "The devil made me do it" and "God made me do it" - except the latter is even scarier.
---StrongAxe on 10/23/10


\\But If God, whom is absolute ruler over all, commands the mind of Christ to kill someone, and the mind of Christ would disobey him, then that would be sin.
---Eloy on 10/21/10\\

The real question, as I've asked, is this:

Does someone with the "mind of Christ" imagine God telling him to commit such sins? (And in your attempt to use elegant diction, you misused the word "whom".)
---Cluny on 10/22/10


\\Cluny "However, I'm not the one who has the kind of mind that can imagine God telling him to commit homicide."

Once again, this reminds me of the saying "The one man you cannot help is the one who says God told me."\\

As we know from the past, and can even see today, "God told me to" is an excuse used by kooky multiple murders all the time.
---Cluny on 10/22/10


Cluny "However, I'm not the one who has the kind of mind that can imagine God telling him to commit homicide."

Once again, this reminds me of the saying "The one man you cannot help is the one who says God told me."

As for being tempted by God to murder...
James 1:13, "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"

Every thought and idea that enters the mind of man must be judged against the standard of scripture. He will not go against his revealed word. To suggest that it is possible for God to tempt to murder is offensive at best and blasphemous at worst.
---Bruce5656 on 10/22/10


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\\Cluny, All your sinful presuppositions is vanity. \\

That would be true had I made any sinful presupposition (and your verb should be "are" not "is).

However, I'm not the one who has the kind of mind that can imagine God telling him to commit homicide.
---Cluny on 10/22/10


Eloy:

God is not the author of confusion, so how could someone who has categorically forbidden murder command a Christian to commit murder? Would God also command a Christian to lie, cheat, steal, blaspheme, or commit adultery?

If I heard a voice in my head telling me to do these things, I would have to conclude that either God is schizophrenic (not likely), or more probably, the voice I was hearing was NOT God's.
---StrongAxe on 10/22/10


Cartin .. Can you answer me?
---a on 10/21/10


Catrn Can you explain why you nearly always mispell Cluny's name?
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/21/10


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Have you folks noticed that Cunies name comes up more than anyones? GOOOOOOOD!
---catherine on 10/21/10


Cluny, All your sinful presuppositions is vanity. For it is not possible for the mind of Christ to imagine God telling him to commit sin. But If God, whom is absolute ruler over all, commands the mind of Christ to kill someone, and the mind of Christ would disobey him, then that would be sin.
---Eloy on 10/21/10


Would a person whose mind was renewed imagine God telling him to commit sins such as homicide?
---Cluny on 10/20/10


You are like the apostle Paul! Read Romans 7:15-25. Paul found himself doing things he knew were wrong, that he didn't really want to do. So who was goading him into doing them? Must have been the enemy, same one you are troubled with. And we are all troubled by him. BUT we have victory thru Christ. So, our sins weren't just crucified with Christ, our SIN NATURE itself was dealt a death blow. The Blood of Christ is stronger than any demons, or your own sin nature. Read these verses, and the ones following aloud to yourself until the devil gets tired of hearing it, and you believe it. There has no temptation overtaken you but what is common to us all. Be blessed.
---Linda on 10/19/10


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Pray specifically to Jesus to give you a new mind and right and clean thoughts and thinking. Ask Jesus to help you, and to give to you his same mind. Read the Holy Bible, and turn the channels to listen to Christian music and Christian preaching on the radio and on television, and do no longer dwell upon dark and depressing things.
---Eloy on 10/19/10


\\Now if you tell me that Cluny-is-not-Ignatious and Ignatious-is-not-Cluny, then I should accept it. \\

Trust me, I'm not Ignatius. I've never even laid eyes on him.

And I'm not StrongAxe, either, though we know each other in real life.
---Cluny on 10/19/10


"Have you not noticed that many do not even believe basic B-flat doctrines such as Jesus is God Incarnate of the same substance/essence as the Father?" (Cluny)

Kind of reminds one of Hebrews 5:11-12, "Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat."
---Bruce5656 on 10/19/10


Kimberly,

Know this: Satan is not in you. He cannot read your mind. He cannot speak to your mind.

John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

This is the simple truth of the word. Let it set you free.
1 John 4:4, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
---Bruce5656 on 10/19/10


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Eph 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.
Let the Holy Spirit teach you of the Authority given in the Name of Jesus(use it)-Rebuke the thought--repent-whether it's yours or not.Renew your mind with the Word of God-continuely.---Praise Him.
Do a search to find a favorite praising song-sing it-humm it etc.
Here's a start-we feed the flesh and the spirit.
For the body God has given-focus on eating healthy-exercise.
For your spirit-renew your mind with His Word-sing praises-praising Him-love Him-
Let Him Love you.
Rom12:2(mind renewed)
Is 9:6(who is Christ)
2Cor10:5(Authority in the Name)
Phil2:10 "Authority"
Jn Chap-14-16-17 (Being-In-Christ)
Jn 20:31-Life through His name

Blessing to you.
---char on 10/19/10


Oh absolutely. Satan>>>can destroy your mind just by placing or if you will, driving [force even], wrong thoughts into your head. He can also, try and keep pleasant thoughts out of your mind, but, he has a tougher job at that. He rather save a lot of time and just work on your mind in the wrong kind of thoughts. Wrong thinking can absolutely prevent or at least make it harder to think right thoughts. You need God's help.
---catherine on 10/9/10


Cluny, like JackB, I have suspected that some on here have one or more aliases. Now if you tell me that Cluny-is-not-Ignatious and Ignatious-is-not-Cluny, then I should accept it. But as per my question which you have - in your usual displacing way - not ellaborated on: John II, YOU are emptying CHRIST of His power. Help me to know where and why. You are in the disposition of believing that you are the blogs presider who scrunises all entries, only leaning forward to submit a couple of sentences in the delusion that everyone will take note and then get brain-storming on your 'snippets of revealed wisdom'. That's just arrogance: give us something to build with, something to be mutually edifying. Standing aloof will only keep you aloof.
---John_II on 8/23/10


Ignatious, I asked you a relevant question, I received no answer, just an invitation to get entreanched in tit-for-tat. Again, is this the maturity in Christ that you want 'babes' to come to? For the record: I have not made those claims, though I may have reproved you. Apostolic Tradition should behold us a dirigibles for the Spirit, not blown by human doctrines, or even brought down and put on tracks - God can raise up stones for that. It has been said that Christians ought to be like snowflakes: you can recognise one but no two are identical. Your 'Apostolic Tradition' has you walking and talking the same literary-referential dogma, instead of the dynamicity within the Spirit, and the reason why you and Cluny are so much alike.
---John_II on 8/23/10


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\\Ignatious-Cluny-Formation, your quote: '...one would have to know WHO was on the Cross. Do you have a clue?'\\

Please do not attribute things to me I never said. OK?
---Cluny on 8/21/10


"Is this growth from one who is ever-purporting to be mature-in-Christ?" (john II)

You have done that many times before, even claiming that your interpretation of Scriptures are correct, and mines are not. Even claiming Orthodox doctrines are paganism. Is hypocrisy not a sin in your Bible?

"You are always pointing people to the 'genius of man'"

Are you upset because I refuse to follow your interpretations of Scriptures and your doctrines?

Besides John II, how would you have know about Christ if it was not for these "genius of man" who preserve Apostolic Tradition and canonized the NT, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit? Are you that arrogant (Pope) John II?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 8/21/10


Ignatious-Cluny-Formation, your quote: '...one would have to know WHO was on the Cross. Do you have a clue?' Is this growth from one who is ever-purporting to be mature-in-Christ? It makes an utter mockery of your 'in IC, XC.' self-adopted seal of approval. You are always pointing people to the 'genius of man' as the order to know Him, as though Christ was powerless to do so Himself, and He will do this with our witnessing and experiencing the cross for ourselves - our own sacrifices to make for others. Ignorance is not bliss, that's for those not knowingly in the battle. It's about a call to Christ, a call for deliverance at all times. Now if I empty the Power, then give explanations as to why, I mean: aren't you the knowledgeable one?
---John_II on 8/21/10


John II,

As they say "Ignorance is bliss".

If one is a Student of Holy Scriptures, not only will he WANT to study more, but he will GROW in His knowledge of Holy Scriptures, firmly establish in Apostolic Tradition. The same applies to Church History, Christology, etc. But like a Infant, one must take baby steps.

"Ignatious, as usual you are emptying the cross of its power!"

I do no such thing. Besides, one would have to know WHO was on the Cross. Do you have a clue?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 8/20/10


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2Cr 10:4
For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

2Cr 10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ

2Cr 10:6
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.


2Cr 10:7
Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he [is] Christ's, even so [are] we Christ's.
---Carla on 8/20/10


2Cr 10:8
For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

I would post all day to distigusih between what is scripture, a figure of speach, or just a gut feeling about something instead of posting every scripture in the words limit per pst.

Can You then Give date/time/blog where I mentioned personal saviour was actually scripture since you want to call a spade a spade, Rhetorical question, don't answer it's ovbious!!!

ShalomeX
---Carla on 8/20/10


You surruptitiously target babes-in-Christ, challenging them as 'not being ready' for your level of Christological acumen in the hope of driving more to your denomination.

You are so right! There is TONS of this here. It doesnt take you long to figure out who the vultures are. Ive even noticed some make multiple accounts agreeing with themselves in an attempt to cause doubt by the number of those opposing.
---JackB on 8/20/10


\\Ignatious, as usual you are emptying the cross of its power!\\

John II, YOU are emptying CHRIST of His power.

The Cross has no power without Christ.
---Cluny on 8/20/10


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Yes, the dark side can and does it constantly. All matters of your mind, which is incidentally the same as your spirit, are affected by spiritual means. Please remember that dark spirits, are indeed Spirits and operate in spirit. Spiritually speaking they are in a greater knowledge of your weaknesses then you are, whether one believes it or not. In spirit all things are known and there are no secrets.
Now, do not despair, but prepare yourself to the fact that the closer you'll have Lord to your heart, the more severe these attacks shall become, because the dark side believes that from your birth you belonged to them. Thus to let you go would be a nice thing to do, except that the dark side is not in the habit of doing the nice things.
---simon on 8/20/10


Ignatious, as usual you are emptying the cross of its power! Using your great knowledge and scheming to bring the lost into a religion, and so burdening them so as to miss the Way. Sadly, many will succumb to your bloated, psuedo-authoritative declarations because you sign your submissions with 'in IC, AC.' for a rubber-stamped effect. You surruptitiously target babes-in-Christ, challenging them as 'not being ready' for your level of Christological acumen in the hope of driving more to your denomination. Not only have you taken Jesus Christ down from the cross - perhaps with best intentions - but now you have Him shored up by pretentious, ostentatious, arrogant, pompous men such as yourself. And all the bloggers bar Cluny said...
---John_II on 8/20/10


\\I found this:

1Cr 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
---Carla on 8/19/10\\

What you're saying Carla, is that when asked where "accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior" is in the Bible, you became very angry because you could not answer and turned to name-calling and ad hominem arguments.

There are on-line computer Bibles with many translations available. It's an easy thing to use key words to search them.

When you get to one (and I cannot give the site here, as it's against the rules), type in "personal Savior" as a search term and see what you get.
---Cluny on 8/19/10


I found this:

1Cr 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
---Carla on 8/19/10


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"Have you not noticed that many do not even believe basic B-flat doctrines such as Jesus is God Incarnate of the same substance/essence as the Father?" (Cluny)

I have not only notice that here, but in other forums/blogs Cluny. The Christolgical Heresies of the 3rd-8th centuries has been resurrected in new sects, etc. The Jehovah's False Witnesses are nothing more than modern day Arians. Others follow early Pneumatological, Hamartiological, etc, heresies.

Many here have zero knowledge of Church History or theology, yet believe their interpretation of Scriptures is correct.

The more one disconnect them self from Apostolic Tradition, the more deep in heresies one get into.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 8/19/10


Yes, demons can. Pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you. Keep praying for the Holy Spirit until you hear from Him. He knows what to do about it. You need Him for the rest of your life and so do we all.
---Betty on 8/19/10


\\As long as a person accepts Jesus Christ as their personal saviour read their bible and pray for the Holy spirit to lead them,\\

Carla, where do you find "accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior" in the Bible?
---Cluny on 8/19/10


Cluny, aren't you usually bemoaning the commentaries of Luthur? There are certain situations where people, who are not in the battle, unwittingly mock Satan, or mock him without any real conviction. But for those in the battle, we do not get confrontational with him or his demons - we will lose and he will only accuse us to God. What did the mighty angel Michael say? [Jude 1:9.], "The Lord rebuke you, Satan"! What does Proverbs 22:10 say about the ridding of the mocker? Out go the quarrels also! But you, a professing regent of the "invaluable solid stuff", you who endorse mocking demons in one breath and then endorse ignoring them in the other. Aren't you working-in confusion? Aren't you sowing discord among the brothers?
---John_II on 8/19/10


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A correction to my previous submission below:

Those who are experiencing this plaguing will not succeed in fending off these demons with any kind of like-for-like, this is what the evil one wants.
---John_II on 8/19/10


\\but don't realize that many are babies in Christ or that many are still choking on basic tenets of Ancient Christianity or that many are still stuck in post 16th century ideology.but don't realize that many are babies in Christ or that many are still choking on basic tenets of Ancient Christianity or that many are still stuck in post 16th century ideology.\\

Have you not noticed that many do not even believe basic B-flat doctrines such as Jesus is God Incarnate of the same substance/essence as the Father?
---Cluny on 8/19/10


Cluny:

Decades ago, I used to watch the PTL Club, and remembered one recurrring guest - John Wesley Fletcher. He was always talking about "giving the devil a black eye", which somehow seemed too flippant and presumptuous and made me uncomfortable. He was later involved in the whole "Pearlygate" scandal.

One clear warning sign about men of God is when they lose their humility, watch out! It becomes easy for them to believe that they can do no wrong (or if they do, it's justified in the name of whatever cause they are working for).
---StrongAxe on 8/19/10


As long as a person accepts Jesus Christ as their personal saviour read their bible and pray for the Holy spirit to lead them, they will be saved no name denomination person or creed will stop them from knowing God only their own personal committment will hinder them.

There is just too much fighting on this site by denominations who have just and much flaws in their own beliefs as the person they are trying to correct.


Seek and you shall find Jesus knocks and all you need to do is open the door to Christ the Holy Spirit will do the rest, leave out the denominational doctrines and adhere to the undiluted word.
---Carla on 8/19/10


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Ignatius, while the spiritual writings you posted are invaluable, aren't they really too strong for babes in Christ to assimilate? ---Cluny on 8/18/10

my 3 year old loves peanuts and grapes. her great grandma always get riled up when I give them whole to her. she "assimilates" them fine.

a babe will feed off milk and pablum until they are able and willing. the only way to find out is to give it to them and see.

how will we assimilate what's good and right unless you stop your "concern" for us?

thank you, ignatious for not making assumptions that might make you seem elitist and separatist.
---aka on 8/19/10


"Ignatius, while the spiritual writings you posted are invaluable, aren't they really too strong for babes in Christ to assimilate?" (Cluny)

I believe you are right. There are times that I just recommend books (I really want many to know about Eastern Christianity and come Home), but don't realize that many are babies in Christ or that many are still choking on basic tenets of Ancient Christianity or that many are still stuck in post 16th century ideology.

Thank-you Cluny for pointing that out.
---Ignatius on 8/18/10


\\Cluny, who are these 'great Christians' who mock the demons?\\

Martin Luther was one. "The Devil, that proud spirit, cannot stand to be mocked."

Smith Wigglesworth used to mock demons, too.

And George Chesterton said, "Satan fell through force of gravity." In other words, he took himself too way seriously.

Remember, demons are proud and feed off the attention and energy and time we give them. Sometimes, as Smith Wigglesworth did, the best thing to do is simply say, "Oh! It's you," and ignore them.

Ignatius, while the spiritual writings you posted are invaluable, aren't they really too strong for babes in Christ to assimilate?
---Cluny on 8/18/10


Cluny, who are these 'great Christians' who mock the demons? If these are your peers then it explains a lot about your attitude on these blogs. Mocking is evil and we repay no-one, human or demon, with evil. Those who are experiencing this plaguing will succeed in fending off these demons with any kind of like-for-like, this is what the evil one wants. It's true that being calm and patient, with faith in the Lord, will win the night. Just as those who hate Christ don't like His name being in the air in the temporal soon depart, thus it is the same with demons in the spiritual. We can recite a hymn, a psalm, a prayer, anything that resounds Jesus Christ and unto Him - but no begging, provoking, mocking, scorning, swearing, growling, etc.
---John_II on 8/18/10


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\\Cuny: "A healthy mind is well connected to a healthy spirit": There so many Scriptures that will back me up, because, I looked. Rarely do I do this, but I figured what the harm? \\

Let me paraphrase what you said to see if I understand you properly.

You rarely look up to see if the Bible says what you claim it says.

Interesting.
---Cluny on 8/18/10


Kimberley, well the first 3 submissions are not advisable from the bible's standpoint, on the contrary: 1. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body. 2. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly. 3. How long will mockers delight in mockery? (Do not reduce yourself to the level of a demon).

Satan didn't tormented us as we revelled, caroused and debauched while wafting away the warnings of swearing, crudeness and rudeness (conversely, we blamed God for trying to steer us aright). These seductions impressed on us deeply, being reaffirmed day by day. When we turn to Christ then Satan knows what to throw at us. Removing the filth takes time.
---John_II on 8/18/10


Cuny: "A healthy mind is well connected to a healthy spirit": There so many Scriptures that will back me up, because, I looked. Rarely do I do this, but I figured what the harm? The unregenerate man>>>It would be impossible for them to have an healthy mind, because, Must have the new birth and follows a healthy spirit. 2 Timothy 1:7. Of a sound mind.
---catherine on 8/17/10


I used to be part of a gang/club that played "Dungeons & Dragons". A game that is both scary and adventurous. The gang/club "split up". Me, and my buddies, all went our separate ways.

I no longer play "Dungeons & Dragons". Some of my buddies have come down with Mental Illnesses, like Schizophrenia. That might have been caused by playing "Dungeons & Dragons".

Anyway, I've attended "spiritual warfare" seminars that teach about what these games can do to a person. Players are basically "inviting" demons to enter their own lives and control them.

Satan and his demons are very "sneaky".



---Sag on 8/17/10


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\\I rest my case. GET IT?
---catherine on 8/17/10\\

Yes, I get it.

You're taking a lot of words to express the simple fact that you cannot provide verses to support your claim about what the Bible says.
---Cluny on 8/17/10


catherine, when a person is born again, their spirit comes alive unto God. Their spirit is saved automatically when they ask Jesus into their heart as Lord and Savior. Repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins....after this happens our SPIRIT comes ALIVE UNTO GOD.

If our mind did the same thing our spirit did, then why does the bible say, BE RENEWED IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR MIND? and TAKE ALL THOUGHTS CAPTIVE? AND

Romans 8:7 - Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. The mind is NOT renewed or made alive when you are born again, you need to memorize scripture and change your thinking.
---Donna5535 on 8/17/10


Cuny>>>There are lot of scriptures that conforms to what I write....When God saves you He gives you stability. until He does you don't have any. It is impossible to have a healthy mind without an healthy spirit, because God must be the reason for it. God must live in there to help you to have one. God can keep you straight and what about Satan? I rest my case. GET IT?
---catherine on 8/17/10


\\Bible tells us that a "healthy mind is well connected to a healthy spirit".\\

catherine, can you give us book, chapter, and verse where the Bible says this, please?
---Cluny on 8/17/10


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You do not have a problem! There is nothing wrong with your mind. The fact that you are aware of this shows that you are a stable person. Some have a life-time of demon's influence, most will remain lost. There is not a lot that you can do. Shrinks can not help you, because, they do not believe in demons. Demons, I dare say, is not in their educated books. About all that you can do is stay in prayer, keep going, and exercise your mind. When Satan throws a rotten thought in your mind kick it right out. This takes great fortitude. Get plenty of rest, because a tired body gives Satan more room to attack the mind. Bible tells us that a "healthy mind is well connected to a healthy spirit". God must live there. Demons do come and go.
---catherine on 8/17/10


Resist the devil and he shall flee, continue to resist his suggestions by focussing on good things such as getting stronger in the lord and defeating the devils that missed out on the blessing you have now got. It takes time years maybe but you through growth over come.

This is a pilgrims journey that your are on and many negative feelings hurt and pride will manifest in your first years of salvation. These are what I call your cleansing stage where even swearing, cursing and verious things people have described to me have come to mind even sexual thoughts, I understand it comes from your past state.

Then eventually if you stay your program the forgiving/building stage will follow.

Ps. Beware of the blasphemy one.
---Carla on 8/17/10


As long as you are living, Satan will try to tempt you.

Christians can expect even MORE temptations because of "spiritual warfare" between God and Satan. It sounds like this is WHY you are being tormented a lot.

Ephesians 6:12 -- "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
---Augie on 8/17/10


Go to your Pastor or a very anointed man of God and talk to him, tell him what you are experiencing.

Sounds like you opened a door for a demon to come in...that happens when we sin.

You, right now, and BIND the demon up. But you must do this every day - here's how: In the name of Jesus I bind you in Jesus name. You shall not operate in me in the name of Jesus. I plead the blood of Jesus over my mind, my will and my emotions in Jesus name. Keep doing this everyday until you find an anointed man of God to CAST the demon out of you. Sounds like you have a spirit of fear that creeped in somehow....keep him bound until you get him cast out by an anointed man of God.
---Donna5535 on 8/17/10


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This is probably just common garden variety temptation.

And you could be overly scrupulous, yourself. I don't know you well enough to tell.

But if you were told that just because you "get saved," temptations automatically stop, you were not told the truth.

You cannot stop the birds of temptation from flying at you. All you can to is stop them making nests in your hair.

More than one great Christian has remarked that the proud demons can't stand being mocked. They will do their best to get your eyes off Jesus. Sometimes, you simply have to deliberately will yourself to ignore them, with God's help.
---Cluny on 8/16/10


Make an appointment with a licensed Mental Health Professional, you have a problem.
---Friendly_Blogger on 8/16/10


Such a topic is very intense and can not be explain in it's fullness in just 125 words, so I will recommended you read the following books which deals with this and many other aspects of spiritual warfare:

1) Pseudo-Macarius: The Fifty Spiritual Homilies and the Great Letter.
2 Monastic Wisdom: The Letter of Elder Joseph the Hesychast.
3) Councels from the Holy Mountain: Selected From the Letters and Homilies of Elder Ephraim
4) Defeating Sin: Overcoming Our Passions and Changing Forever by Fr. Joseph Huneycutt.
5) Unseen Warfare: The Spiritual Combat and Path to Paradise of Lorenzo Scupoli.
6) The Jesus Prayer: The Ancient Desert Prayer That Tunes the Heart to God.
7) On the Prayer of Jesus.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 8/16/10


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