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Who Is The Earth Beast

Who is the Beast that comes out of the earth in Revelation 13:11?

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The Antichrist is described here as the first beast in Revelation 13:11
" And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

And the false prophet is described as the second beast.

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."
---mima on 10/8/10


Cluny:

The British Commonwealth is now more of a conferacy of peers, rather than an empire where one country rules all the others.

The Queen is only the titular head of state in Canada. She personally wields no power and has no right to govern or make laws. Even her personal representative, the Governor General (technically on par with the President of the United States) is just a rubber stamp - all he really does is to formally ask the head of the majority party to form a government. The Queen really has little more power in the U.K., although she is a much more vital part of the economy there, providing much-needed gossip for the tabloid industry.
---StrongAxe on 9/2/10


\\Canada is not a world power are they?
Look at everyting that the text says about the beast out of the earth. Canada is far from this.\\

But is not Canada a major constituent in what was once called the British Empire, and now called the British Commenwealth of Nations?

And is not the Queen of England still technically head of state of Canada?
---Cluny on 9/1/10


francis:

I mentioned I grew up in Canada merely to point out that I grew up in a society where "blue laws" were in effect. These laws (whether in Canada or the United States) prohibited certain kinds of commerce on Sundays, but they said absolutely nothing about forcing people to worship on Sundays, or about forbidding worship on Saturdays.

And, absent such prohibitions, such laws are not relevant to the discussion of The Beast.
---StrongAxe on 9/1/10


StrongAxe on 9/1/10
I did see your Canadian response. Not bad. But look at the big picture.

Canada is not a world power are they?
Look at everyting that the text says about the beast out of the earth. Canada is far from this.

If we just take one section it may fit any nation, but look at the whole picture.

I am off on 9/2/10 So i will not be on.

So have a great day.
---francis on 9/1/10




francis:

I grew up in Canada, in which "blue laws" lasted (and some still last) much longer than they did in the United States. While these prohibit certain kinds of commerce on Sunday, this is irrelevant to the Sabbath.

If one wishes to worship on the Sabbath, laws that prohibit commerce on Sunday (or Wednesday, for that matter) are of no consequence. The only problem would be laws that prohibit worship on Saturday, and I am not aware that any "blue laws" ever did that.

If you can find any, I would love to hear about them. Such laws would be clearly illegal under the "free exercise" clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
---StrongAxe on 9/1/10


Jews are Adventists are free to worship and refrain from work on the Sabbath. How is this making it illegal?
StrongAxe

Remember we have a beast ( ROME)and an IMAGE of, or TO the beast ( USA).
In 364 AD Rome made it illegal for anyone to to keep the sabbath. Much like ROME there was a time is USA when people were forced to keep Sunday rather than sabbath, look up sunday blue laws.

Go to Pat Robertson and CCA's website see what their Agenda is.
Also look at Lord's day Alliance in America
Look up Focus on the Family see what their agenda for America is

Their sole Agenda is to declare America a Christain nation. Much like Constantine declared Rome a christain nation. WIth Sunday as a unified day of worship.
---francis on 9/1/10


\\Study John Calvin's theology concerning the end times in the Geneva Bible (the Book of Revelation) until all of these questions are fully grasped.
---Kev on 8/31/10\\

Jean Chauvin (to use his birth name) is not the last word on anything.
---Cluny on 9/1/10


America!!! is the Beast...
You gotta consider they thought the earth was flat back then,and this New World pops up outta,lol,well from off the side of the flat planet...heheheheheee....
---kevin on 9/1/10


Part 2: What does John Calvin say about the Turkes and the ruine of Rome concerning Revelation chapter 18? What does John Calvin say about the year of our Lord 1375 and Revelation 20:8-9? What does John Calvin really teach about Revelation 20:8-9 and today's events in Europe? Did John Calvin teach that Christendom in the West is the tents of the Saintes and the beloved City? And that Gog and Magog are Turkes (that is, Islamists)? Where in all of John Calvin's writings is it taught that Gog and Magog are Russians? None verily.

Study John Calvin's theology concerning the end times in the Geneva Bible (the Book of Revelation) until all of these questions are fully grasped.
---Kev on 8/31/10




Kev, why don't you help us? What did he say about all the things you mentioned? Or are you asking the question because you do not know? It was a big blog, I know you had a point, what was it?
---MarkV. on 8/31/10


What does John Calvin say about Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 1:7/ I Cor. 15:52/ I Thes. 4:16? What does John Calvin say about the 42 months in the Book of Revelation (294 years)? What does John Calvin say about Revelation 20:1-3 and verse 7 concerning the devil chained for one thousand years? What does John Calvin say about Pope Boniface 8 (concerning Revelation 11:7) and the two witnesses? What does John Calvin say about Revelation chapter 13 and the Dark Ages whereas the Pope was a monstrous tyrant to all? What does John Calvin say about the Armagedon (Revelation 16:16-17/ 19:19-20/ 20:8-10)? Yea, why does John Calvin have the English Geneva Bible and the French Geneva Bible translated as ''a thousand year'' in Revelation 20:4 and 6?
---Kev on 8/31/10


\\i believe it will be the anti christ but as to who that will be who knows
---brittney_johnson on 8/30/10\\

Then who/what is the Beast that comes out of the sea in the first part of the chapter?
---Cluny on 8/31/10


i believe it will be the anti christ but as to who that will be who knows
---brittney_johnson on 8/30/10


catherine:

One does not need scripture for everything. I don't check a Bible to tie my shoelaces. However, saying I don't need no Scripture. is dangerous because it sounds like you are rejecting the Word of God.

I make no special claim to righteousness or unique reveleations or divine relationships (unlike some on these blogs). I do bring people's attention to things they say contradicting scripture - I don't rely on my faulty authority - I let God speak for himself. I also challenge others to show proof when they claim the Bible says something it does not.

Anyone can adjudicate such disputes. Don't trust me. Don't trust the other person. Read the scriptures yourself to see who is right.
---StrongAxe on 8/30/10


SATAN HATES it when I am being myself. Stop being so religious....Some feels they must have a Scripture for everything. I do not. So, take you pick, Mr. Righteous, O holy one. You are too good for me, and for my God,aaaaaaa.
---catherine on 8/30/10


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catherine:

You said: I don't need no Scripture. Take your PICK!

It is very dangerous ground to believe that your own personal revelations (you often quote things "your god" told you) are more important than scriptures. This is how all cults and most heresies get stared. Jim Jones once slammed a Bible saying "I've got to destroy this paper idol!", and we all know where his teachings ended up.

Galatians 1:8-9:
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
---StrongAxe on 8/30/10


francis:

How is "scarcely populated area" relevant?

Forbidding buying+selling is related to the Mark of the Beast, and U.S. embargoes are not based on that.

Jews are Adventists are free to worship and refrain from work on the Sabbath. How is this making it illegal? On the other hand, the same can't be said of Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia.

Raining fire? Check Youtube for: Nuclear Detonation Timeline "1945-1998". It shows over 2000+ nuclear tests and explosions by 7 countries. Maybe twice that possess nuclear weapon capability.


Pierre:

When you make a claim, it is your responsibility to substantiate it, not everyone else's to "go study it on their own".
---StrongAxe on 8/29/10


||I don't need no Scripture. .....
---catherine on 8/28/10||

Consider the source, people.
---Cluny on 8/28/10


Catherine //I don't need no Scripture//
What do you mean? Another double negative. Perhaps unwittingly, you are saying you do need scripture
---Pedant on 8/29/10


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I don't need no Scripture. Take your PICK!
---catherine on 8/28/10


I've looked up Perry Stone, and he seems to be just one more independent minister subject to no authority but his own.

I would think that we've learned to beware of such by now. (HINT: Jim Bakker, Tim Haggard, et al).

Such people are always going to tickle ears to keep the money coming in.

---Cluny on 8/28/10


CLUNY: You made my point. Frances asked you to look at what PERRY STONE had to say concerning the USA and Rome and you went right ahead and offered us your wisdom on the subject.I expected better from you. May be next time (?)
---Pierre on 8/27/10


\\Which nation is the most warfaring nation, which talking a lot about peace?( Speak as dragaon and horns like a lamb)\\

Oh, Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, for two.

\\Which nation has made Sabbath illegal, and made Sunday laws as Rome did ( image of the beast)\\

Possibly the Mahometan countries.

\\Which nation makes it rain fire* from heaven and sacres men of this earth?\\

Iran is threatening this.
---Cluny on 8/27/10


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Oh yes, thank you Pierre, speaking of separation of church and state. Obamam, is going to give a lot of money to the Muslims to help to build their mausoleums. How can this be?
---catherine on 8/26/10


He plans to kill them all and wants them to build a place to bury them?
---atheist on 8/27/10


Qualified bible scholars agree that this is USA ( look at what PERRY STONE says comcerning USA and ROME)


Which nation came up AFTER Rome in a sparcely populated area?

Which nation has the most embargoes ( forbiding to buy to sell)

Which nation is the most warfaring nation, which talking a lot about peace?( Speak as dragaon and horns like a lamb)

Which nation has made Sabbath illegal, and made Sunday laws as Rome did ( image of the beast)

Which nation makes it rain fire* from heaven and sacres men of this earth?
---FRANCIS on 8/27/10


\\CLUNY: If I felt that you were interested in the truth, I would take the time to answer you but since this is not your goal you will have to study it on your own.
---Pierre on 8/27/10\\

In other words, Pierre, you cannot identify these commentators. You're simply regurgitating what you've been spoon-fed.
---Cluny on 8/27/10


Qualified Bible scholars agree with this statement by Cluny.
"This has been traditionally identified as the False Prophet."
---Cluny on 8/25/10
---mima on 8/27/10


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CLUNY: If I felt that you were interested in the truth, I would take the time to answer you but since this is not your goal you will have to study it on your own.
---Pierre on 8/27/10


\\The beast of Rev 13:11 has been identified by a number of commentators as being the USA\\

This is an official doctrine of the SDA, based on one of the paranoid fantasies of EGW.

Supposedly it's about the US government's nasty old Sunday blue laws, forcing people to not work on Sunday.

Who are the other commentators, Pierre?
---Cluny on 8/27/10


Oh yes, thank you Pierre, speaking of separation of church and state. Obamam, is going to give a lot of money to the Muslims to help to build their mausoleums. How can this be?
---catherine on 8/26/10


The beast of Rev 13:11 has been identified by a number of commentators as being the USA.It was seen rising about the tme the first beast was going into captivity
around 1798.It was seen rising out of the earth which was a wilderness continent. It was 22 yrs old in 1798. The two horns like those of a lamb indicated power. The power
of this nation is a result of its founding principles REPUBLICANISM which would produce a country without a king where the majority rule with respect to the civil rights of the minority and PROTESTANTISME which produced a nation where one can worship according to the dictates of one's conscience. The principle of seperation of church and state is the foundation of the two strengths of th American system.
---Pierre on 8/26/10


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This has been traditionally identified as the False Prophet.
---Cluny on 8/25/10


The beast mentioned in Revelation 13:11
is satan
Katie
---Katie on 8/25/10


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