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Jerry ... Why are you trying to change this little discussion into one about the time scale? That is not the issue.

This conversation (a side issue really) is about whether God "spoke" the universe into existence. Exodus does not mention speaking at all. Genesis 1 says nothing about it until verse 3, (after the heavens and earth had been created) where it states that God said "Let there be light"

You are adding to the scriptures if you insist that God spoke matter into existence.

By the way ... have you ever wondered whether you are sinning by trying to destroy the faith of those who have a different understanding of the time scales involved in God's Creation?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/19/10


Warwick .... Good to see you back!

"Consider also that Peter could only write this because his readers already knew what a day is and what a thousand years are. Not the same thing obviously" ....

BUT ALSO ..

Consider that Peter's readers could probably not understand what a milliom, billios of years meant
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/19/10


\\I have no idea why Christians want to distort what God's word actually says. Maybe someone can tell me?
---Warwick on 11/18/10\\

I see it all the time on here. I don't know.

Why ARE you doing this, Warwick?
---Cluny on 11/19/10


Alan: Gen 1:1-3 does not say that God was silent before verse 4. It is "silent" on that subject. However, when you compare scripture with scripture, as you are advised in Isa 28, you will find that Exo 20:11 clears the matter up nicely:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth ...

Thus, the creation of planet earth, albeit without form and void, must have occurred at some time during the six days of creation, and necessarily, it would have been early on the first day. Any other interpretation would make the Bible a lie.

Of course, if you don't believe the Bible, ...
---jerry6593 on 11/19/10


Cluny as you well know you have only given part of the 2 Peter 3:8 quote, which says "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." This does not say a day is a thousand years to God at all. It says that to God a day is LIKE a thousand years, and a thousand years are LIKE a day to God not man! Totally different.

Genesis was written by God for man, not written for God!

Consider also that Peter could only write this because his readers already knew what a day is and what a thousand years are. Not the same thing obviously.

I have no idea why Christians want to distort what God's word actually says. Maybe someone can tell me?
---Warwick on 11/18/10




Jerry ... Genesis 1.1 says clearly that God created the heavens and the earth BEFORE He "spoke", which did not occur until verse 4.

Of course, if you don't believe the Bible, ...
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/18/10


\\But, when compared with Exo 20:11, it clearly was less than one day.\\

A day with the Lord is as a thousand years. That's in the Bible, too.

So you cannot deny on the basis of the Biblical data that the days of Creation were not necessarily earthly days as we know them today.
---Cluny on 11/18/10


Alan: The heaven and earth did not exist prior to the six days of creation, but were a part of it (see Exo 20:11). Genesis does not elaborate on the amount of time that passed between the earth's creation as "without form and void" and God's creation of light. But, when compared with Exo 20:11, it clearly was less than one day. Of course, if one doesn't believe the Bible, then he can speculate any amount of time he likes.
---jerry6593 on 11/18/10


Micha, great passages you gave. The whole word of God speaks of His power. From the beginning to the end of Revelation. I believe asking questions is good, because many others will learn things they never heard before, yet, it is foolish to question God works unless they have no faith. So many things we do not know for sure but we believe what the word of God says because it's His word. We have faith in His Word.
---Mark_V. on 11/18/10


\\The heavens and the earth were and the earth was formless BEFORE God said "Let there be Light"
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/17/10\\

And my understanding is that the Big Bang theory presently says that light was the first thing to be differentiated from the formless and void TimeSpaceMatterEnergy continuum.
---Cluny on 11/17/10




Psalms 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
Psalms 33:9 For he spake, and it was [done], he commanded, and it stood fast.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.(does this include matter?)
Exodus 20:11a For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is],
There is only One that is eternal, and it is not matter, all else was created by Him, including matter.
---micha9344 on 11/17/10


Mark, France was wonderful. This year we spent about 2 weeks visiting the battlefields, memorials and cemetries of the first world war. I had studied it but being there is something else. The scope and the horror of it all was brought home, vividly. It makes the present conflicts, such as in Iraq, and Afghanistan seem like nothing in comparison.

We also did some tourist stuff along the coast ending up back in Brittany.

France is a fascinating country. I look forward to our next visit.
---Warwick on 11/17/10


Alan you are attempting to play word games and I will not enter into your foolishness. Is this how you entertain yourself? Are things in Bristol so boring that you feel the need to do this?

Consider Numbers 12:4 : At once the Lord said to Moses..." 12:6 "He (God) said listen to my words. 12:8 speaking of Moses God says "With him I speak face to face." God therefore speaks, has spoken, and will speak again.

God spoke, He said, He used words. Just as He spoke at creation-He said, He spoke, He used words and light, vegetation, animals and man came into being.
---Warwick on 11/17/10


Mark, I quite agree with you about God making it all.

My points are about the WAY in which He did it, and as you must know, Warwickhas not yet told me where Genesis 1 says God spoke matter into existence.

The heavens and the earth were and the earth was formless BEFORE God said "Let there be Light"
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/17/10


Jerry, I agree with your statments very much. A good thing this time.
"The heavens are Thine, the earth also is Thine, as for the world and the fulness thereof, Thou has founded them. The North and the South Thou has created them" (Psa. 89:11,12). All the fulness thereof, were created by God. For everthing has to have a beginning. And for anything to exist is because of God. "He upholdeth all things by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3). "He commanded and it stood fast" for God said, "Let there be... and it was so" (Gen. 1). The whole of Scripture is full of His power and attributes.
No matter what man thinks are believes, God created all things.
---Mark_V. on 11/17/10


Warwick ... No Warwick, I am not attempting to play word games.

I have read the first Chapter of Genesis, and cannot find that God "spoke" matter or creation into existence.

Perhaps you can supply the verse number, and quote the words?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/17/10


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Warwick: GREAT to have you back! How was France?

Alan: Warwick has given you one scripture reference for God speaking matter into existence. Here's my personal favorite:

Psa 33:6,9 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. ... For he spake, and it was done, he commanded, and it stood fast.

So, again I ask you. If you can't believe this most fundamental part of the Bible, how can you believe ANY of it?
---jerry6593 on 11/17/10


Alan, the first chapter of the Bible has God speaking creation into existence, ex-Nihilo, "And God said, And God said, And God said......." How can you therefore ask Jerry to "tell us where the Bible says God "spoke" matter into existence?"

Are you attempting to play word games?
---Warwick on 11/16/10


\\. God does not need a hammer or gravity to create.\\

God doesn't need anything at all.

But I'm not going to presume to tell Him what He may choose to use.
---Cluny on 11/16/10


jerry ... Can you tell us where the Bible says God "spoke" matter into existence?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/16/10


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Alan: Exactly! The blacksmith creates - the hammer does not. He needs a hammer, and likely he buys one rather than making one. God does not need a hammer or gravity to create. The Bible claims that He "spoke" matter into existence in six days. If you can't believe this most fundamental part of the Bible, how can you believe ANY of it?
---jerry6593 on 11/16/10


Jerry ... Does a blacksmith make a hammer, and just then step away and let the hammer get on with it? No, he uses the hammer.

The Bible makes no mention of gravity, and certainly does not deny it as a tool of God.
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/12/10


Alan: "your alternatives A & B are not mutually exclusive."

Let me see if I've got this straight.

A - God created the universe, and

B - Gravity created the universe are not mutually exclusive.

That is only possible if you believe that God made gravity and then backed away and just let it all happen - let gravity take over as the Creator God. This is the same position that some take on the creation of life on this planet. God made earth and a warm pond on it and then Evolution took over as the Creator.

Such concepts have only two major flaws:

One - there is no supporting logic or evidence, and

Two - The Bible denies it.

Are you sure you want to be on that side?
---jerry6593 on 11/11/10


Yes Mark, Hawkins may be highly intelligent but there's not a SINGLE verse in the bible that praises intelligence.
Plenty that praise wisdom but none intelligence.
---larry on 11/10/10


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Cluny, you are right when you say,

"I'm trying to get jerry to think like a mature adult. I refuse to be drawn into his game of false antitheses and childish dichotomies."

He sometimes delights in getting to you. That is his make-up. I would not take it serious for many times he is not serious himself.
---Mark_V. on 11/10/10


\\Cluny: Do you honestly believe that anyone other than you believes that your circumlocution and obfuscation constitutes an answer to my A-B question\\

Ignatius does. Alan does.

MarkV clearly grasps what I'm saying.

Even you do, jerry, but you're either being hard-headed, or you've not caught on yet that you're getting what I'm saying.

\\FYI, never knew about the PCA.\\

Nor did I, much less know about Hawking's association with it.

But as an Orthodox, it matters not a whit to me.
---Cluny on 11/10/10


Jerry ... I am not playing a game.

I would agrre with your answers. And in so doing, it seems to me that your alternatives A & B are not mutually exclusive.
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/10/10


Igantius, no, I 'm not bitter at anything. I have been sick now for a few days, but never bitter. I love all that the Lord has done for me and my family and friends. Oh, there is some sad moments, but they don't last long.
Concerning Steven Hawkins or Hawking, I never said he was a terrile guy only that he shows no faith in our Creator. That was all. He is a great scientist, with very good knowledge of things that do not pertain to God, but so are all the other scientist. I judged him by his works. What he does helps no one in perticular in life. They bring joy to themselves. He might be a great help to scientist who cannot understand that God was the Creator of all things. They want proof, because they have no faith in God.
---Mark_V. on 11/10/10


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Alan: OK, I'll play. Here are straightforward answers to your questions:

Yes and God.

See how easy that is? Why can't Cluny do that? He would answer your questions something like this:

Gravity seems to be an all-pervasive force associated with matter that may have originated from itself. Some believe that this origin may have been a result of supernatural intervention. I don't necessarily believe everything everyone says.

Now if you can get a straight answer out of tripe like that, then perhaps you can tell me whether Cluny chooses A or B.
---jerry6593 on 11/10/10


\\Jerry ... Why do you get so angry with Cluny? He has given his answer qwhich is quite understandable, unless you determine that God and gravity are mutually exclusive.\\

Thank you, alan.

I'm trying to get jerry to think like a mature adult. I refuse to be drawn into his game of false antitheses and childish dichotomies.
---Cluny on 11/9/10


"He is a member of the Pontifical Academy of Science, which is a part of the Catholic Church which is probably the reason Ignatius and Cluny support him. " (Mark V)

Bitter much?

FYI, never knew about the PCA. But thank-you! And if you really interested in the Truth you would have known that the current Pope denounced Hawking's beliefs. I, other Orthodox, and Catholic Christians denounced him too when it comes to theological matters.

As Cluny rightfully pointed out (and in which Jerry is having a hard time comprehending), he is brilliant guy when it comes to physics, but he is no Theologian, Father/Saint. No Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant cares what his personal view on God is.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 11/9/10


I suspect that most atheists would accept that some people are evil. I don't see evil as requiring a religious definition
Alan

Yes Alan, more nonsense from the secular athiests community as if evil arises from some premordial soup.
Evil doesn't require a religious definition but a moral definition that eminates from a moral agent.
It takes pretzel logic to suppress the truth but yet they continue.
---larry on 11/9/10


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First of all God created everything. Lets get that right. Steven Hawkins, a scientist, his best work is theories. None of his work is base on faith in God. He is a member of the Pontifical Academy of Science, which is a part of the Catholic Church which is probably the reason Ignatius and Cluny support him. Very smart guy, but no faith in God. That I say by reading some of his work on the Big Bang.
Oh by the way, God created gravity, made it possible for us to stay right here on earth and not be flooding in space, and the planets to be where they are. So far all astronauts have come back that we know of. Awesome God we have.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/10


Jerry ... Why do you get so angry with Cluny? He has given his answer qwhich is quite understandable, unless you determine that God and gravity are mutually exclusive.

Let me ask you a question ... or two.

Do you beleive that gravity exists?
I expect you will answer "yes"

So now I ask, "Who created gravity?"
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/9/10


Cluny: Do you honestly believe that anyone other than you believes that your circumlocution and obfuscation constitutes an answer to my A-B question? What are you afraid of? I think that you are caught between two mutually exclusive concepts and are afraid to let one of them go. I'll paraphrase 1Ki 18:21:

How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if [Hawking], then follow him.
---jerry6593 on 11/9/10


I've given the answer.

You either accept it or you don't.
---Cluny on 11/8/10


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Cluny: Perhaps you don't understand the word "straightforward". I asked for a specific answer to a specific question on YOUR beliefs. You continue answer that a third party's (Hawking's) beliefs and his expertise in the fields of science and religion, and your ability to accept or reject HIS opinions, somehow translates into YOUR opinion - all while never stating whether or not YOU agree or disagree with him. I don't know of anyone who would agree with such an answer being straightforward.

If you want to give a REAL answer, then simply type an A or a B in response to:

A - God is Creator.

B - Gravity is creator.
---jerry6593 on 11/8/10


Alan: "jerry ... there were wars and evil and selfishness & ethnic cleansing centuries before the evolution theory was dreamt up."

Of course.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

But Marx, Engles, Nistche, Hitler, and Stalin were specifically influenced by Darwin, and those influences resulted in the deaths of millions. Darwin was particularly racist, and considered the Australian/Tasmanian Aboriginees as mere animals.
---jerry6593 on 11/8/10


jerry ... there were wars and evil and selfishness & ethnic cleansing centuries before the evolution theory was dreamt up.

& even relativly recently, do you think the Hutus & Tutus had ever heard of ethnic cleasing?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/7/10


\\Cluny: A man who refuses to give a straightforward answer, chosing instead to hide behind subtlety and deception, does so for a reason. What's your excuse?
---jerry6593 on 11/4/10\\

I've given a straightforward answer.

I will paraphrase it here for your convenience: "When Hawkings speaks on theoretical physics, he is an expert. When he talks about God, he is clearly not."

What about this do you not understand?
---Cluny on 11/7/10


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Alan: No. You made it clear that it was not your philosophy. But, I still contend that inherent in the concept of natural selection is the "kill-or-be-killed", "us-vs.-them" mentality that justifies whatever means necessary to perpetuate "our" kind over the others. I believe further that it is this very darwinian philosophy that has led to the genocides you mentioned. This was certainly true of Hitler, Stalin, and the British genocide of Tasmania. Muslims, on the other hand, are a radical departure from all rationality. Their blood lust stems from their defective religion.
---jerry6593 on 11/7/10


Jerry ... I hope that readers don't think "there is no limit to what I can do to achieve what I want. I can lie, rape, murder, ... it's OK as long as it helps me."
is my philosophy!

I don't think that evolutionists' "natural selection" theory generally goes down the route ... it is more question of physical adaptation to survive. But maybe not?

Christians have been as bad as atheists and evolutionists at ethnic cleansing and other evils against other people. Hitler is not the only monster there has been! And Islam rejects evolution and is not atheistic, yet commits horrors in an attempt to destroy their imagined foes
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/6/10


Alan: I agree that evil is indeed a real force, and not simply the absence of good. But, I think that it has its greatest relevance in the arena of religion - i.e. evil is to good as Satan is to God.

Your comment:

"there is no limit to what I can do to achieve what I want. I can lie, rape, murder, ... it's OK as long as it helps me."

sounds a lot like the alleged "natural selection" engine that powers the evolutionary hypothesis.

Come to think about it, doesn't that also sound close to the "I'm above the Law - OSAS" mantra?
---jerry6593 on 11/6/10


Actually Larry, I was not, but to his suggestion that the universe created itself, or some such nonsense.

Now you have raised the question of there being no such thing as evel ... that too is nonsense.

I suspect that most atheists would accept that some people are evil. I don't see evil as requiring a religious definition.

Evil results from the ultimate selfishness, that no-on matters but me, and there is no limit to what I can to to achieve what I want. I can lie, rape, murder, ... it's OK as long as it helps me.

That's evil, does not depend on the bible to prove it
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/4/10


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I assume you are referring to his comment that there is no such thing as evil, its just a philosophical description of our DNA?

Christians reject such non-sense that evil is philosophical, as we know in reality evil is existential (real).

At the heart of his denial and supression of the truth is the resistence to acknowledge a moral agent who would then deserve his submission which of course is intolerable to the rebellious heart.
---larry on 11/4/10


Cluny: A man who refuses to give a straightforward answer, chosing instead to hide behind subtlety and deception, does so for a reason. What's your excuse?
---jerry6593 on 11/4/10


\\What does it matter whether I like it or not? As a Christian, you should refrain from intentional obfuscation and deception.\\

I'm sorry you can't understand what I'm saying. I'm using simple English prose.
---Cluny on 10/28/10


Cluny: "I've already given my answer. I'm sorry if you don't like it."

What does it matter whether I like it or not? As a Christian, you should refrain from intentional obfuscation and deception. Your coy answers do not hide your love for worldly explanations of beginnings and your disdain for the simple "thus saith the Lord."

Besides, the scriptures constrain you to "be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" (1Pet 3:15). I'm asking ... A or B?
---jerry6593 on 10/28/10


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I've already given my answer.

I'm sorry if you don't like it.
---Cluny on 10/26/10


Cluny: You still don't get it. I'm asking for YOUR personal opinion.

The Creator: (choose one)

A. God

B. Gravity
---jerry6593 on 10/26/10


\\Cluny: "jerry, see what I said on this matter back on 9/4/10."

Sorry, but that was not an answer. It was merely a statement of your freedom to choose a belief.

Again, I ask for a straightforward answer:

The Bible says that God created everything. Hawking says gravity did it. Who do YOU personally believe???
\\



Here's what I said on the 4 September that you apparently didn't get when I posted it.

***When Stephen Hawking speaks on theoretical physics, he is clearly an expert in his own subject, even if I don't get half of what he's saying, and I respect him for his expertise.

But he's not a theologian, so I don't have to take his remarks on God seriously.
---Cluny on 9/4/10***
---Cluny on 10/25/10


Cluny: "jerry, see what I said on this matter back on 9/4/10."

Sorry, but that was not an answer. It was merely a statement of your freedom to choose a belief.

Again, I ask for a straightforward answer:

The Bible says that God created everything. Hawking says gravity did it. Who do YOU personally believe???
---jerry6593 on 10/18/10


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**Oh Cluny ...................
---jerry6593 on 9/25/10


Cluny??? Your silence is deafening!
---jerry6593 on 9/21/10


Cluny: The Bible says that God created everything. Hawking says gravity did it. Who do YOU believe???
---jerry6593 on 9/15/10**

jerry, see what I said on this matter back on 9/4/10.
---Cluny on 9/26/10


Oh Cluny ...................
---jerry6593 on 9/25/10


Cluny??? Your silence is deafening!
---jerry6593 on 9/21/10


Cluny: The Bible says that God created everything. Hawking says gravity did it. Who do YOU believe???
---jerry6593 on 9/15/10


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\\Isa 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
---jerry6593 on 9/9/10\\

You're right, jerry.

God doesn't think the same way you do.
---Cluny on 9/10/10


As I dislike the ones who say, all this could have come in to existence without God!

I have to say I am impressed with the brilliances of Dr. Stephen Hawking.
Should I look at him as a bad man? For simply following what he see in front of him. Looking for the proof of it?

Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone,

But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not, I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear!
---TheSeg on 9/9/10


For those of you who are impressed with the brilliant "thinker", Stephen Hawking:

Isa 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
---jerry6593 on 9/9/10


God has given Stephen Hawking a brilliant mind. To bad he can't see the truth.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
---JIM on 9/8/10


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"WE ARE ALL IGNORANT, ONLY IN DIFFERENT FIELDS"
Albert Einstein
---John on 9/7/10


All i can say is Wow!
---TheSeg on 9/6/10


Who is Dr. Hawking persecuting?
---Cluny on 9/6/10


Your statements are correct, Earl. Some scientists want us to believe that all organisms therein are mechanical. Then there is no difference between a human being and a lawn mower. Both are just mechanical machines. Therefore, taking a hammer to a human being is no worse than taking a hammer to a lawn mower. A conscience (not Science) tells you there is something wrong with that idea.
---Dan1725 on 9/6/10


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Should these things surprise you?

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them, And that from a child thou hast known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

I find it so sad, that people of old, said these things happen to us.
And today so many say its not so.
But more, they will not even try to believe.
And are satisfied to say, its just a lie.
Lord help them
---TheSeg on 9/6/10


I disagree. Biology, Cosmology, Physics, (and all the sub fields) and other areas of Science have complying explanation of why things are and how things came to be, but this doesn't mean God wasn't involved!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/5/10


I agree with you. Stephen Hawking's comments are interesting. I would think that such an intelligent guy would have become convinced that there just had to be a GOD behind it all. Obviously, NOT!

GOD is the Creator of EVERYTHING that is observed in any, and all, of the sciences. From HUGE stars to TEENY-TINY sub-atomic particles. And whatever else is in between.
---Sag on 9/5/10


Stephen Hawking is a brilliant theoretical physicist and cosmologist (don't trash him simply because you don't understand physics or quantum physics or theoretical physics). You can't deny this. I haven't read his latest book "The Grand Design", but nevertheless, he is not a Saint nor a Father nor a Theologian nor a Philosopher. Anything dealing with God or the Faith, I simply by passed his statements. Stephen believe Science got it all figure out, thus there is no need for God or religion

I disagree. Biology, Cosmology, Physics, (and all the sub fields) and other areas of Science have complying explanation of why things are and how things came to be, but this doesn't mean God wasn't involved!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/5/10


I believe I heard it reported that in his new book Hawking says gravity could have created our Universe with no help from a "god."
---Geraldine on 9/4/10

When I was a kid, I remember seeing a cartoon about an angry scientist who became a mad-man criminal or terrorist. He attacked the entire world with his latest invention: an Anti-Gravity Machine.

I'll believe Mr. Hawkins latest theory about gravity when scientists invent an Anti-Gravity Machine just like in that cartoon.

Until then, I'm hooked on GOD as the "creator of everything". Including GRAVITY.
---Augie on 9/5/10


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//Immediately I thought, perhaps gravity IS God. After all, it is omnipresent, in all things. Anything in Scripture that would contradict this possibility?//

God is a Spirit. God is love. God is good. God is light. God is faithful. God is longsuffering. I can find all those in the Bible, but I can't find "God is gravity". Since the written Word tells us who God is, it looks to me like it would tell us God is gravity if He were.
---LG3 on 9/5/10


I believe I heard it reported that in his new book Hawking says gravity could have created our Universe with no help from a "god." Immediately I thought, perhaps gravity IS God. After all, it is omnipresent, in all things. Anything in Scripture that would contradict this possibility?
---Geraldine on 9/4/10


If someone believes spontaneous evolution then that someone cannot escape believing that the universe and all organisms therein are mechanical without a personal decision and no self will to make personal free choices.Any and all things are uninfluenced by other machines or mechanisms nor does one machine recognize another machine.They will not be affected by internal or external motivators nor do they have any.This is better known as mindlessness and Godlessness in a domain that just happened without a cause.The problem with this theory is that if we know who we are by looking in the mirror then this Godless line of reasoning looses all credibility.
---earl on 9/4/10


I "listen" to the things that Stephen Hawking is saying and "pray" about them.

I find that much of what theoretical physicists say turns out to be difficult for me to understand. For other people, it might be easy to understand.

In any case, whatever they have discovered is YET ANOTHER fact that only "magnifies" the AWESOME-NESS of God's creation.

I'm still waiting for Mr. Hawking & Co. to explain how theoretical physics "explains" God's creation. I don't believe in evolution. Sorry Guys!
---Sag on 9/4/10


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I am sorry to hear that he has drifted further if not all the way towards atheism.

I think he has gone from "there might be a higher power behind the big bang" to "there is no God but science."
---Obewan on 9/4/10


At first it made me sad because I know there is a loveing creator called God. Then afterwhile I let it go because being upset isn't worth it.there will be some that don't believe in God, but that should stop us having faith.
---candice on 9/4/10


When Stephen Hawking speaks on theoretical physics, he is clearly an expert in his own subject, even if I don't get half of what he's saying, and I respect him for his expertise.

But he's not a theologian, so I don't have to take his remarks on God seriously.
---Cluny on 9/4/10


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