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Difficult Scripture To Understand

In your opinion what is the most difficult Scripture to understand?

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francis:

That would depend entirely if he made the left at Albuquerque physically, or spiritually.
---StrongAxe on 9/23/10


Glen on 9/10: I really liked that you laid it out in that way. Thanks. Good jod.:)
---jody on 9/21/10


francis...notice the phonetic spellings.

the first time that Bugs said it was in a forties propaganda cartoon during WWII.

"Las Veegas? Why, there is no Las Veegas in Chermany!" was Hermann Gring's retort after Bug's popped up and said his classic line.

'Joimany'? Yipe!
---aka on 9/21/10


Frances, Exodus 32:32, Nothing more strongly marked the love of Moses for his people than his sincere willingness to offer up his own life rather than see them disinherited and destroyed. The book which Moses refered, the psalmist entitled "the book of the living." Ultimately or premature death would constitute being blotted out of the book.
What's hard to understand is what God ordered them to do in 6:27,28, "Let every man put his sword on his side, and go in and out from entrance to entrance throughout the camp, and let every man kill his brother, every man his companion, and every man his neighbor." and they did. People here say that God is love, but don't read what He had to do so people would obey Him.
---MarkV. on 9/21/10


Figuratively, if you make a left at Albukoykee and head for Las Veegas, you will probably lose your way even though you have made the "right" turn.
---aka on 9/20/10


"Left at Albuquerque" is a reference from bugs Bunny whenever he gets lost.
---francis on 9/21/10




Las Veegas? Why, there is no Las Veegas in Chermany!

Figuratively, if you make a left at Albukoykee and head for Las Veegas, you will probably lose your way even though you have made the "right" turn.
---aka on 9/20/10


If a christian makes a wrong turn at Albuquerque is he spiritually lost or physically lost?
---francis on 9/20/10


Exodus 32:32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--, and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

This is difficult because it is incompete.
what exactly was moses saying by: Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--,
---francis on 9/20/10


It is very hard for most to leave water out of Rom 6:3 & 4
---michael_e on 9/11/10


Another difficult scripture to understand is: we will do greater works than Christ.

Somewhere someone changed this to mean greater miracles. No where does Jesus say we will do greater miracles. It's obvious no one (even those who claim they have) can raise anyone from the dead. ONLY CHRIST can raise you from the dead! Jesus said I AM THE RESURRECTION!!!

The WORKS here mean that the Church, spread out all over the earth as His hands and feet will Witness bringing many to Saving faith in Christ.

---kathr4453 on 9/11/10




Perhaps for the: Apostates - 1Timothy 4:1-2, Atheists - Psalm 14:1, (many) bloggers here - 2Timothy 2:15-16, Dominionists - Zechariah 4:6, Faith Movement - John 19:30, fools - Proverbs 10:8, Jehovah's Witnesses - 2John 1:7-11, Jews - Jeremiah 2:13, greedy Pastors - Matthew 6:24, Romans 12:16, self deceived - Hebrews 4:12-13, Seventh Day Adventists - Galatians 2:16, 4:9-11, Colossians 2:16-17, Unitarians - the Bible, Universalists - Mathew 7:13-14 / Luke 13:24, unbelievers - 1John 2:18-19, 22, unlearned and unstable - Matthew 7:15, Ephesians 4:14, 2Timothy 3:1-9, 4:3-4, 2Peter 3:16, (some) women - Proverbs 14:1.
---Glenn on 9/10/10


UHM not one of these people were PHYSICALLY LOST. ---francis on 9/9/10

Hmmm,remarkable isn't it. I mean how he healed their physical infirmity's, resurrected their bodies, knew their history (husbands,prophetic)....yet as sheep having no master they were lost.... before he found them.
Something notable is these sheep are still lost to you....unidentifiable. So are they lost....these sheep? Or perhaps they are found and....

Is your body not attached/married to your spirit? Or are you special?
---Trav on 9/10/10


The Lost Sheep were the Woman at the well,her/heritage father Jacob dug. The blind,lepers,crippled....the thief on the cross. They knew of his coming....because they were taught, what they had lost.
---Trav on 9/9/10

UHM not one of these people were PHYSICALLY LOST. I am sure that the woman at the well found her way home. The blind may have had a hard time getting home, but i am sure he did eventually.

I am willing to bet that some of them, ( except the thief on the cross) may have been SPIRITUALLY LOST, but None physically lost
---francis on 9/9/10


Earthly Israel will only SEE the Glory of the KING, at His second coming...They were never promised to be glorified TOGETHER with Him!!!
---kathr4453 on 9/9/10

For some reason of GOD, you have never been allowed to see that Judah is just one portion of Israel. Judah does not equate all Israel and never has,never will.

Most of Judah does not now nor will partake. But, many of them will along with all the others making up Israel....sheep you can't find. At finding Lost Sheep. Christ did not fail. He cannot fail. They are right in front of you if you could discern a sheep from a goat.
Your scriptural rebuke is located in Heb 8:8.
---Trav on 9/9/10


Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

I have never condicered LOST here to be physical. I always thought is was SPIRITUAL.
---francis on 9/9/10

We've been taught that. But, not by scripture. None,not one prophet stated this. Christ fulfilled all prophecy, right?
The Lost Sheep were the Woman at the well,her/heritage father Jacob dug. The blind,lepers,crippled....the thief on the cross. They knew of his coming....because they were taught, what they had lost.
Do the dead not get resurrected?
1 Corinthians 15:13
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
---Trav on 9/9/10


Most difficult for most is the difference in scriptures taught by Christ (in his earthly ministry) and what he revealed to Peter and the eleven about the Kingdom Gospel, prophesied since the beginning(Acts 3:21)
And what the ascended Christ revealed to Paul kept secret since the beginning(Rom. 16:25) concerning the body of Christ, which if you are saved you are a part of, never mentioned in the OT, or by Christ in his earthly ministry to the Nation of Israel, or by Peter, James or John in their Jewish epistles
---michael_e on 9/9/10


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Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

I have never condicered LOST here to be physical. I always thought is was SPIRITUAL.
---francis on 9/9/10


I believe the Mystery CHRIST IN YOU, is the most difficult, because it separates the CHURCH from Earthly Israel, of which many believe the church replaced Israel. Those who do will never understand the Gospel according to the Mystery.

The Mystery is CHRIST IN YOU clearly stated in Colossians 1 and was kept secret. However JOHN 17 gives a glimps into the mystery in Jesus prayer.

I in them and thou in Me that we all may be one..is concerning the CHURCH, His Body. ONLY the Church is promised to share in HIS GLORY..through the fellowship of His suffering Romans 8 and so on.

Earthly Israel will only SEE the Glory of the KING, at His second coming...They were never promised to be glorified TOGETHER with Him!!!
---kathr4453 on 9/9/10


Acts 9:1-16?
Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:>>>And the children of Israel?
Matt 10:5,6?
Mat 10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
Mat 10:23b ...Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
But He did come back and told them something new...
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:>>>All nations?
Your 2 gospel boat is leaking.
---micha9344 on 9/8/10


...first 3 gospels speaking to different groups of men?
Matthew - the seed of Shem (the elect)
Mark - the seed of Ham (the servants)
Luke - the seed of Japheth (the gentiles---JackB on 9/8/10

I'm not Rob, so forgive, but there is one serious problem with the above. It is not witnessed by any scripture.
There are two continually avoided though, that immediately clarify.

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

These lost sheep are not jews. Judah was not lost. They are the other side of the house. They have been found.....and when completed.....
---Trav on 9/9/10


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Its in the same chapter that says Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are written to the Jews.
Its not.

It just a belief that some hold from reading the content of each book.

In Matthew he portrays himself as the king of the jews
In Mark a servant to mankind
In Luke physical proof of God (which gentiles seek)
In John God IN the flesh.

I was honestly seeking your opinion on it, not tryin to start argument. No need to be defensive.
---JackB on 9/8/10


If Peter and Paul taught the same thing, you would think Peter wouldn't have any problem understanding Paul's epistles

2Pet. 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you, 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
---michael_e on 9/8/10


i find it intersting enough to explore the possibility. please tell me where you heard this... book, web site, sermon. thanks
---aka on 9/8/10


Rob YOu first said // I believe the most difficult scriptures to understand are those concerning THE MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS, which is found in the Books of Mark, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians.
Now you say //Nowhere in these four Gospel will you find the Mystery of the Gospel, because is was first revealed to the Apostle Paul, after Christs resurrection//
Have you changed your mind about Mark.
---Pedant on 9/8/10


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JackB, please show me where in scripture I can read what you wrote regarding the first three Gospels, Acts 17:11.
---Rob on 9/8/10


Micha, have you not read what is written in Matthew 10:5-6 and Acts 9:1-16?
---Rob on 9/8/10


//Pedant, in most Churches they preach the Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which was the Gospel to the Jews. // - MarkV

So you dont agree with beliefs that depict the first 3 gospels speaking to different groups of men?

Matthew - the seed of Shem (the elect)
Mark - the seed of Ham (the servants)
Luke - the seed of Japheth (the gentiles)
John - everyone to prove Jesus IS God in the flesh

Not saying I believe this, but I have considered it. What do you think, Rob?
---JackB on 9/8/10


John 3:8 - The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
---anon on 9/7/10

As you can see, there are many people who have different opinions on this one verse.

As Jesus says in the verse, we (born of the Spirit) are to be like the wind, blown to and fro never knowing where we will be next. Simple isn't it? Yet, many do not want to hear THAT interpretation. it means, we must give up our drams, our hopes, our plans and be able to be blown by God wherever He wants us to go.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/8/10


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Rob ... Have you forgotten John 3.16?
---Pedant on 9/8/10


Acts 17:1-2 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Acts 14:1 And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together(Paul and Barnabas-Acts 13:50-52) into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed.
Acts 13:16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with [his] hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience
You guys and your 2 gospel beliefs...HA..
Shall we show next where Peter was initially?
---micha9344 on 9/8/10


//The Apostle Paul was the Apostle who preached to the Gentiles. The other Apostles were to the Jews.
---Rob on 9/8/10 //

Amen Rob absolutely correct. Rom 11:13, Gal 2:2, 2:8 plus many more back you up
---michael_e on 9/8/10


Pedant, in most Churches they preach the Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which was the Gospel to the Jews.

Nowhere in these four Gospel will you find the Mystery of the Gospel, because is was first revealed to the Apostle Paul, after Christs resurrection.

The Apostle Paul was the Apostle who preached to the Gentiles. The other Apostles were to the Jews.
---Rob on 9/8/10


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Rob ... I went to Ephesians 3 and found the refernece to the mistery. But what was described is shown in all the gospels, and has been preached in all the churches that I have ever been a member of.
---Pedant on 9/8/10


anon,

the bible says that we are the temple of God and God's Spirit lives in you.

But, remember, you are God's temple and you can also grieve the Spirit. thus, the Spirit can't "worship" there at the moment. However, if any man destroy the temple that is you, God will destroy that person.
---aka on 9/7/10


anon
This is one that I don't FULLY understand...can someone explain it for me?
John 3:8 - The wind bloweth where it listeth,.....so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

The effect of the wind can be sensed but you cannot "see the wind".

In the same way, the effects of conversion (being born of the Spirit) can be felt and seen but the conversion itself takes place invisibly, inside the person. You can see the result but you cannot see the work of the Holy Spirit take place.
---Bruce5656 on 9/7/10


Anon
As wind signifies life, therefore, the Lord teaches about the regeneration of man. All things that Lord provides man with during the Regeneration can never be completely known or revealed. Thus, man does not know of this fact, still less can he know in what manner he is being regenerated by the Lord. Because natural man does not know when Truth in him
has life, consequently when or how Regeneration goes on, thus according to the Lords words in John:
"The wind bloweth where it willeth, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth, so it is with everyone that is born again of the spirit"
---simon on 9/7/10


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Geraldine
That one who is in Christian good will permit an evil person to take these away as far as he can, is described by what the Lord says in
reply on the same subject. Resist not him that is in evil signifies that there should be no fighting back of retaliation, because good does not fight with the evil, much less does it return evil for evil, but it allows it to be done, since it is protected by the Lord, and therefore no evil from hell can do it harm.
Whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek turn to him the other also signifies if anyone wishes to do harm to the perception and understanding of truth, it may be allowed to the extent of the effort, the cheek signifies the perception and understanding of Truth. God Bless.
---simon on 9/7/10


aka, I think I get it but I thought the bible says that we are a temple of the Holy Spirit?

So how can he "come and go?"

Doesn't He, the Holy Spirit, STAY inside of us once we receive Him?
---anon on 9/7/10


anon,

the Spirit, who comforts, strengenthens, and convicts, comes and goes in people that the Spirit can use to accomplish God's will.

if we can grieve the Spirit, the Spirit can't use us at that time. the Spirit goes where he can just like the wind and comes out of nowhere despite the meteorologists best guess.
---aka on 9/7/10


This is one that I don't FULLY understand...can someone explain it for me?

John 3:8 - The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
---anon on 9/7/10


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-- Catherine :

Sister, Departure from evil is Understanding{Job 28:28}. So the most difficult Scripture to Understand is the ones you have yet to walk-in by Faith.







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---Shawn.M.T on 9/6/10


Matthew 5:39, "If someone smites you on your right cheek...turn to him the other also." This appears to me to be tempting the offender to sin again, which other scriptures caution us not to do.
---Geraldine on 9/6/10


Revelations are fun. You know, when light-bulbs goes off all around you and you've got it, straight from God.
---catherine on 9/6/10


Pedant, this GREAT MYSTERY was kept secret from the foundation of the world, until it was first revealed to the Apostle Paul.

A good place to begin studying about the MYSTERY is Ephesians Chapter Three.
---Rob on 9/6/10


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catherine, iam not sure there is.The truth of the good news of Christ is simple. scripture tells us that God is not a God of confusion,we as human beings over analyze everything,including salvation.but to answer your question revelation is probably the most difficult for most people to understand,there is alot of symbolism within its pages.
---tom2 on 9/6/10


ROB ,,, But what is this MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS? Is it something given only in the Books you list ,and not in the others? Please tell us ,with references ,so we too can understand this special GOSPEL
---Pedant on 9/6/10


I believe the most difficult scriptures to understand are those concerning THE MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS, which is found in the Books of Mark, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians.

This is because in most Churches you will never, ever hear about the MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. Attending Churches for over 30 years I never heard about THE MYSTERY and never knew it was written in SCRIPTURE, until about 2 years ago.

To this day, I am thankful I finally heard about it in a Church, I studied it, I know it, and I understand it. KNOWING THE MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST HAS TRULY SET ME FREE.
---Rob on 9/5/10


"Now a mediator does not mediate for one only,
but God is one." (Galatians 3:20)

I can see how a mediator is for more than one, and God is one, yes. But why would God see a need to say each of these facts, right along with the other? Why say "but"? Possibly, He is pointing out the simple fact that God is one, and so He can not have a mediator between one God being and another, since there is only one God. And so, a mediator has to be between God and someone less than God. This shows how God is unconceited, so willing to involve Himself with us for our good, though He is so superior. So, there is the love meaning, I consider (c: Hmm . . . thank You, LORD (c:
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/5/10


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the hardest...John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


the easiest...1Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
---aka on 9/5/10


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