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Did Moses See God's Face

In Exodus 33 where it says God saw Moses face to face what did that mean, did he actually see God's face?

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No, he saw a portion of his glory refered to as backside.
If you see God's face you will not survive.
---larry on 12/1/10


Acts 7:53 states in part, 'You who received the Law as transmitted by angels...'

The pre-human Jesus, as Jehovah's 'Word' and Archangel may well have been used by his Father Jehovah to 'transmit' or convey the Law to Moses in the wilderness. Jesus Christ is not God incarnate. Jesus as God incarnate is not a Bible teaching as it negates Jesus' role as the 'Messiah'. (How could the 'Messiah' also be the Almighty God?)

Whoever Jehovah used to transmit the Law to Moses, it was by angelic representatives as Acts 7:53 teaches. Moses was speaking to Jehovah God (YHWH) 'face to face' through angels.

Otherwise, Moses would have been killed if he had literally 'seen' God- Ex.33:20, Jo.1:18.
---David8318 on 11/30/10


Ex. 33:11 Moses would speak to God face to face as a man speaks with his friend.
Ex. 33:20 Moses cannot see God's face for no one may see Him and live.
Gen. 32:30 Jacob saw God face to face and yet his life was spared.

When God chooses the form and fashion of a face to face meeting it is possible. But, when man attempts to make that choice in any style or fashion, then the man will not live. It is God's choice because God is spirit and He can expose Himself in spiritual design in the manner and style God chooses. But, man cannot choose that meeting. We can draw close to God, but it is God who decides the exact form of revealing Himself.
---Joe on 11/29/10


God and Moses talked face to face. Check out Deuteronomy 34:10...."Whom the Lord knew face to face".
---catherine on 10/19/10


Josef, great answers you gave. What people might see as those in the Old Testament are manifestations of God. The pillar of fire, the cloud, the Angel of the Lord, the burning bush. For God is Spirit and cannot be seen by man. Only in His incarnated state were people able to see Him in the person of Jesus Christ. It the case of Jacob, he wrestled with a man, who was the Angel of the Lord, who is also identified as God, a pre-incarnate appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ see Ex. 3:2.
---MarkV. on 10/18/10




The Lord Jesus Christ answers this clearly in John 6:46, "Not that any man hath seen the Father...". Even God explained how HE talks with Moses while addressing Miriam & Aaron on their complaints against Moses Numbers 12:5-8. Note especially verse 8 "...and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold:...". Therefore Moses saw representation of God, in my opinion, not even as much as Enoch saw.
---Adetunji on 10/17/10


Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses FACE to FACE, as a man speaks to his friend. (Exodus 33:11, RSV)

Moses would speak with Yahweh "face to face," which means that Moses saw the face of Yahweh. However, in verse 20 Yahweh says to Moses, "You cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live

And he said, My PRESENSE shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest. (Exodus 33:14
2 Cor 4:6 For God Who command the light to shine out of darkness,hath shined in our hearts, to [give]light of the knowledge of the Glory of God in the FACE OF JESUS CHRIST.
---char on 10/15/10


Well, now, we just don't know a whole lot, lets admit it. But, I'll tell you one thing, I have come very close seeing God's face. And God is grossly misrepresented by too many people. He is nothing like the hypocrites portrays Him to be. The hypocrites wants the world to think, that God is just too good TO SEND ANYONE TO HELL. But, I am proclaiming to you this morning the good news. God will send all lost sinners straight to hell. Hallelujah.+
---catherine on 9/11/10


When we retain the scriptures in their context, we understand that, "No worldy ones can see God, but the god-seeking will see God." For I myself have seen God more than once, even as the Bible says, "Blessed they of clean heart, for they will see God."
---Eloy on 9/11/10


Well, I have faith in God and the Scriptures, but, what about this one>>> Jacob said, "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved" [Gen. 3:8].
---catherine on 9/10/10




Sorry in haste I put down the wrong verse. It should be Genesis 32:30.
---catherine on 9/10/10


"did he actually see God's face?" No.
He spoke with Him person to person.
"What about Ex.24.9-10"
These simply perceived His Presence. Exactly how His presence was perceived I can not say other than what is written. What I can say with certainty is that they did not "see His face" as we understand that terminology. How?
Simply because I believe, what I believe by faith, to be His word. "You cannot see My face, for there shall no man see Me, and live."
---Josef on 9/10/10


Ignorance of the "living God" and ignorance of the "holy Scriptures" is not blissfulness. Some are so far down, a little further you see hell.
---catherine on 9/9/10


Moses sinned in murdering a man and hiding his body and thought that no one saw him, but someone did. Thus God said, lit.Hb: "You are not able to see my face, for no bloody one can see me and live." Ex.33:20. As for those of us whom are God's very own children, our Father God does manifest himself to us. But for the antiGod sinner they rarely get to see our God, for our God is holy and will not uneqally yoke together with unholiness. "And you all will seek me and find, when you all will search for me with all your heart." Jer.29:13.
---Eloy on 9/9/10


Moses sinned in murdering a man and hiding his body and thought that no one saw him, but someone did. Thus God said, lit.Hb: "You are not able to see my face, for no bloody one can see me and live." Ex.33:20. As for those of us whom are God's very own children, our Father God does manifest himself to us. But for the antiGod sinner they rarely get to see our God, for our God is holy and will not unequally yoke together with unholiness. "And you all will seek me and find, when you all will search for me with all your heart." Jer.29:13.
---Eloy on 9/9/10


"You might say as some has no one has never seen God's face and live to tell about it. I am telling you, some of these people can quote Scriptures better than me." (Catherine)

Of course others can quote Scriptures better than you because you told us in another blog that you "need no Scriptures"!

Does it matter that Holy Scriptures contradict your assertion that you saw God face to face? Nope. Does it matter that what your god told you one day (i.e., you have not sinned) contradict the Divine Scriptures? Nope.

You don't need Scriptures because you have a familiar spirit, who claims to be "God". This is the "god" you saw Catherine, not the God of the Bible.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/8/10


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No, his faced was bowed as God's shadow passed by re: Exodus 33:23 where "I will take away My hand you you will see My back parts, but My face shall not be seen"

God is of course spirit and not flesh, but these were representations of his Glory before Moses on Nebo/Sinai
---larry on 9/9/10


"Of-course, he did. I have, too. That is what makes my faith so strong, in all of God's glory and splendor."
catherine
If you saw God face to face you would burn up because of His righteousness. It would not just affect your brain.
The god you saw, and I believe you have, is not the God of the Bible. The one you saw is the god of this world. It is that one that has affected your brain/thinking.
---Elder on 9/8/10


God is not sitting in the third heaven His abode, His home, pulling out a bullhorn, yelling in it as loud as He can to Catherine, Billy, Sue. God spake to us face to face....You might say as some has no one has never seen God's face and live to tell about it. I am telling you, some of these people can quote Scriptures better than me. So, I reckon I can be silly, too.
---catherine on 9/8/10


Of-course, he did. I have, too. That is what makes my faith so strong, in all of God's glory and splendor.
---catherine on 9/8/10


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"[after citing example of the Old Testament wherein it is said the Prophets saw God and what Saint John the Theologian said in John 1:18] It is to declare that all these were instances of (His) condescension, not the vision of the Essence itself unveiled.......For since His Son was about to appear in very flesh, He prepared them from old time to behold the substance of God, as far as it was possible for them to see It, but what God really is, not only have not the prophets seen, but not even angels or archangels. ...But the Son only beholds Him, and the Holy Ghost. How can any created nature even see the Uncreated?" (Saint John Chrysostom, Homily XV on John's Gospel).

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/8/10


What about Ex.24.9-10.What did Moses and the seventy see?
---earl on 9/7/10


Moses did not see God's face because as Exodus 33:20 states regarding seeing God, 'You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.'

Acts 7:38, 'This is he that came to be among the congregation in the wilderness with the angel that spoke to him on Mount Si'nai.'

Acts 7:53, 'You who received the Law as transmitted by angels.'

Moses did not see God. As these scriptures show, The Law Covenant 'was transmitted through angels by the hand of a mediator.' Gal.3:19.
---David8318 on 9/7/10


Moses did NOT see God face to face, or he would have died. Instead, God hid Moses in the cleft of the rock and let His backside (glory) pass him by.
---Leslie on 9/7/10


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The Hebrew word used in the passage has many meanings. One of those meanings is "Presence." Realizing that God is a spirit and not human it would do us good to see a spiritual meaning to this. If we look this way we can see that the comment is that there was a personal conversation between God and Moses.
The scriptures go on to tell us that no man can look upon God's face (countenance) and live. Countenance is another application of the same Hebrew word.
---Elder on 9/7/10


He saw God glory. however God didn't allow him to see him face to face, he covered him with his hands & allowed him to see him going away.No one has seen God face to face & lived.
---candice on 9/7/10


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