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Islam At War With Christians

We are not at war with Islam, however Islam is at war with us. Therefore, however reluctant, we are forced to action. Is this a true statement?

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I think it's fair to say, as I recently heard someone say, that the success of Islam in America strongly depends upon the Americans ignorance of the Bible. I might add perhaps their ignorance of the Koran also plays a major role.
---mima on 10/26/10


---joseph on 9/11/10


Another Amen brother-
---char on 10/15/10


John--
Regarding the ignorance of Americans about the Muslim world and their motives, you say,But its a fair assessment of the American mindset. Most especially the Christian American mindset.
Why ESPECIALLY the "Christian" American mindset?

It is the politically correct, in no way synonymous with the "Christian mindset", that are always condemning "Islamophobes".
---Donna66 on 10/12/10


Thanks Donna66. I almost sound like Michael Savage.

But its a fair assessment of the American mindset. Most especially the Christian American mindset.

Almost identical to the Romans, right before their demise.
---John on 10/8/10


I am with what Elder has stated and a few others. Though I believe what the future holds has been ordained, things will happen as they are ordain by the actions we take in life. Islam has made their point to all the world already. Submit to their religion are be destroyed. They force their way into countries that are weak, by putting fear in the people. They cannot put that kind of fear in us. So they take a different approach, by taking sides with the liberals here in America who will accept them just for a vote, with open arms, even though thousands died by their hands on Sept. 11th. Now to show their victory on Sept. 11th, they want a momument at the place of their first conquest with the help of many liberals with socialist ideas.
---MarkV. on 10/8/10




John ....Why so hesitant to say what you really feel about Americans???!! ha.

I agree with you, however, that few Americans get the significance of the "Cordoba" Mosque to the Muslim world. It does make me cringe.

It would be a lot easier to believe we are not at war with Islam, IF , just once, the Imams of some "mainstream" mosques would publicly decry the terrorism of so-called "fringe" Muslim groups. But it hasn't happened yet...and actually, I don't expect it to.
---Donna66 on 10/7/10


The Crusades were Western Christendom's response to mahometan jihad.
---Cluny on 10/7/10


pope urban II called for a crusade in 1095 to free the HOly land from muslin turks.

god wills it was established as a rallying cry & Urban II own letter to flemish confirms that he granted 'remission of their sins' to those undertaking a 'military enterprise' to 'liberate the eastern churches'

so it was the catholic church that started war of liberation from muslim 'heretics'

for more info. wikipedia pope urban II
---bill on 10/4/10


The nation of Islam have a choice put down their idol worship of wood and stone and worship the true and living God.

Organised Christianity has the same choice Put down their false worship of themselves through merchandising the brethren, pagan Gods and rituals, selling of food and goods in the temples or churches they say is Gods house yet all of Christendom is divided claiming each serve only one God and lay every name and tradition of men and devils and serve as one nation the true and living God( YAHWEH) the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob through Jesus Christ our saviour in the beauty of his holiness.
---Carla on 9/21/10


willow, you said it wasn't physical, but when many are killed, it sure is physical. No one can win a spiritual war against me. If God is for us, who can be against us.
---shira3877 on 9/20/10




if there is no war then why churchs are burned and Christians,if caught either beaten tourtured or murdered in pakistan. I have a dear friend there and the pictures he sends me are horrific. Rev Shamas estimates about 10,000 christians were murdered last year. The Christians there pray for their enemies and do not try to fight them back only tell them about Jesus Christ.. We are at war but it is sprirtual
---willow on 9/19/10


We are not at war with Islam, however Islam is at war with us. Therefore, however reluctant, we are forced to action. Is this a true statement?

NO IT IS NOT
---francis on 9/19/10


Amen Always on, beautifully stated.
---Josef on 9/19/10


No, the statement is false. Islam is not at war with Christianity. In the Qu'ran, Jews and Christians are referred to as "people of the book" and Muhammad believed both groups to be God appointed keepers of the holy scriptures. In fact, in a detailed letter kept at St. Catherine's Monastery in the Sinai Peninsula, Muhammad proclaims protection over the priests there. War? No.

The statement would be correct, however, if it read "A select group of radical, misinformed, misled so-called Muslim terrorists are at war with a select population of radical, misinformed, misled so-called Christian war-mongers. Although the latter feigns reluctance, both groups are all too willing to wage war." But, alas, it did not.
---AlwaysOn on 9/18/10


\\Muslim have named the project as a code for conquest of American. All Muslim know this, but Americans are too ignorant to even notice. \\

How do you know so much about what mahometans think, John?

Could you actually be one of them?
---Cluny on 9/15/10


Josef, I agree with you, however, several hundred years from now some will say you need to take into consideration the sensibilities of the time.
---Rod4Him on 9/14/10


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"Right on target to wipe out the Beougoise Brain Dead FOOLS!!!"
In what way do you, Trav, and others propose to change this?
Is this statement also addressed to "Beougoise Brain Dead FOOLS!!!"
"But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven, for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." Mat 5:44,45
---Josef on 9/14/10


Since most Americans are drug infested and brain dead. Too busy watching American Idol. Just like the Romans were before they were destroyed by the Barbarians. So it will be the same for Doped up "Tolerant" Americans.

HERE YOUR FIRST CLUE.....

It's called the "CORDOBA PROJECT" (Gee ain't that a car?)

CORDOBA is a city in Spain that was taken over by the Muslims during the crusades. It was their Base for the conquest of Europe.

Muslim have named the project as a code for conquest of American. All Muslim know this, but Americans are too ignorant to even notice. Muslims laugh at the Doped "Lets show Love and Tolerance" Americans. Right on target to wipe out the Beougoise Brain Dead FOOLS!!!
---John on 9/13/10


Funny thing about this Christian palace Augie, no one pays any attention to scriptures much. Notice you have no reply to this revelation. Posted it sometime back as well....same thing.
Deuteronomy 28:29
And thou shalt grope....
---Trav on 9/13/10

All we can do is post what is written in the Bible. We have to give others the "choice" as to whether, or not, they want to pay any attention to those posts.

I'm sure that GOD feels the same way about things. HIS creation "speaks" for itself. That GOD Himself is behind it ALL -- people, animals, plants, the Earth, etc.

I find it FUNNY that some folks, like the Moslems, still worship IDOLS with such religious fervor. Mecca is nothing but an IDOL.
---Augie on 9/13/10


Trish, Christians are to pray and put actions to their prayers. My "petty" question was plain. Do your friends/students heed their holy book.
Many take sides with the "good" Muslims and are against the evil ones.
They read/study the same book and believe the same doctrines.
Anyone who believes, that women should be owned and/or are slaves, (You used to fight against these ideas. What happened?) that unbelievers/non-muslims should be killed, Allah is the holy god, jihad, and a host of other things are ungodly and can not be trusted. Muslims all study and believe the same things.
It's like getting bit by a pretty rattlesnake or an ugly one.
I think non-muslims who defend Islam are suffering Stockholm syndrome.
---Elder on 9/13/10


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Genesis 16:12 reads --
"And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brothers."
... words that the Angel spoke to Haggar before her son Ishmael was born. The Angel informing Haggar that her own son WOULD be a constant opponent to other nations.

This is what we see in the constant struggles between Israel and it's not-so-friendly neighbors. Wars, Terrorism, etc.
---Augie on 9/11/10

Funny thing about this Christian palace Augie, no one pays any attention to scriptures much. Notice you have no reply to this revelation. Posted it sometime back as well....same thing.
Deuteronomy 28:29
And thou shalt grope....
---Trav on 9/13/10


To All that say that Islam is not at war with Christians, or America, you are DECEIVED. Read the Koran - it's tenants are that of Satanism (steal, kill, destroy, lie, decieve, confuse, control, and bring fear). If you do not believe this, you are ALREADY destroyed because you listen to LIES, and it WILL lead you to Hell. I do NOT care about being polically correct, I care ONLY about speaking the TRUTH. If you want REAL TRUTH that WILL SAVE you from death and Hell, read the Holy Bible - anything apart from this IS a LIE, and WILL lead you to Hell.
---Leslie on 9/13/10


We must do more than just pray! We must seek His council. We are His legs, His mouth, His hands, we are His feet....We are to listen and then obey, no matter what it costs, my friends. Our God in on our side, He is not on the wicked man's side. And no matter how you feel about your enemies, God feels worse. So, we must do much more than just pray. AhhJesus. Ahh Jesus.+ I love your style, Jesus.
---catherine on 9/13/10


Our action should only be PRAYER!!!

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spirits and principalities.

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but they are mighty to the pulling down of strongholds.

We are not forced to action - resist the devil, that's the action we shouuld be taking and PRAYER!!!!!
---Donna5535 on 9/13/10


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\\"Christians' of past times should have been following Christ and not the sensibilities of the world at the time. We "know" Christians by their fruit.\\

You are so quick to condemn the actions of Christian in defending themselves, and so speedy to take up the side of mahometans.

Are you one yourself, Rod4Him?
---Cluny on 9/13/10


Bro. Elder, I am shira3877. I am your friend that you and Mrs. J visited last year. There is another Shirley on here that I don't know.
---shira3877 on 9/13/10


Elder: I have not seen this friend in months, and probably will not see him again. He is married to a former co-worker, and I will not see the students to whom I referred previously.

The point is not what I believe or not believe about Islam. The point is are we, as individual believers supposed to take up arms and fight a physical war, or are we to pray, individually and collectively, for the country, and the Muslims, that the Lord would take hold of them.

My friend, Russ, has been serving among the Muslims in North Africa and Southern France for decades. His safety at times is in danger, and I would rather pray for the work he does, than argue petty arguments on the right and wrong of a statement.
---Trish9863 on 9/13/10


Trish, do either you or your friend accept this statement?
"The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery.
Individual Moslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.
Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith."
Sir Winston Churchill
---Elder on 9/13/10


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---Trish9863 rather than go by what others tell you when I get a copy of the Koran yourself and then read it. If you do I can assure you that you change your mind about Islam.
---mima on 9/12/10


"Christian crusades should not be referred to as Christian crusades. Most of the people involved were not true Christians. The name of Christ was abused, misused, and blasphemed by the actions of many so called Christians--AD 1095-1230. When the Muslims became powerful they invaded Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey, which were occupied by Christians. The Muslims brutally oppressed, enslaved, deported, and even murdered the Christians. So in response to it the Roman Catholic church and Christian kings/emperors from Europe ordered the Crusades to reclaim the land that the Muslims had taken.....Trying to blame all Christianity for the Crusades is analogous to blaming all Muslims for Islamic terrorism.
---catherine on 9/12/10


Trish your response did not answer my questions. I too had a friendly relationship with a Vietnam local. He was a barber on base. He was very friendly to all of us. He was also found among the dead VC trying to blow-up our aircraft on the flight line one night. He was shot and killed while trying to destroy our equipment.
My question remains the same, Does your "friend" believe his holy book? Does he follow the teachings of it?
---Elder on 9/12/10


//As I said elsewhere, the mahometans started killing Christians first. (And they still do.)//

Jesus taught, "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,"

//However, we don't have the same sensibilities about inter-religious strife today that people had hundreds or thousands of years ago.//

and therein lies my dog in the fight, "Christians' of past times should have been following Christ and not the sensibilities of the world at the time. We "know" Christians by their fruit.
---Rod4Him on 9/12/10


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\\We are certainly, joseph, to resist evil with everything that's in us.\\

Just like Ignatius, others, and I resist your familiar spirit that you channel, claiming it's the God of the Bible.
---Cluny on 9/12/10


\\However, if this is true now, why was it not true when the crusaders went to the Holy Land, Jerusalem, and killed Jews and muslims?\\

As I said elsewhere, the mahometans started killing Christians first. (And they still do.)

For that matter, so did Jews, if the Gospels and Acts are to be believed. (And they still do.)

However, we don't have the same sensibilities about inter-religious strife today that people had hundreds or thousands of years ago.
---Cluny on 9/12/10


Elder: My contacts that are Muslim use the Koran. One friend's father was a professor of Koran in Cairo, Egypt. They all have professed to disagree with the extremists that make the news.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/10


you know,all the players must be in place for armegedon,The Islamic religion can be traced back directly to Ishamel,whom God said he would use to make a great nation, and actually saved from death in the desert.Let me put it this way,as believers we are at war with the world,metaphorically,all are lost without jesus.So actually anyone who is not saved,or better yet wont accept the truth are Gods enemies.so your statement must include the entire world.
---tom2 on 9/12/10


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Read how God sent David to battle against the enemy. The bible is full of Gods people fighting the enemy.
---shira3877 on 9/12/10


We are certainly, joseph, to resist evil with everything that's in us. We are to HATE EVIL....Now, a matter of revenge. We are never to take revenge on another within ourselves, but, allow God. Take Moses for example, God used Moses and a staff as an instrument to do in the Egyptians at the parting of the redsea.....Let not the evil of any provocation have such power over you as to disturb your peace, destroy your love, or to bring you to study, like planning, or attempt any revenge. If you cannot bear an injury you are quickly conquered by it....Romans 12:21, and exodus 14:13. That was a good example of Moses, wow, I enjoyed that, thank ou Jesus+
---catherine on 9/12/10


"If God is for us, who can be against us." Exactly.
Shira3877:o) The only fight the believer is called to fight, is the good fight of faith.
We are instructed not to resist evil, but rather to overcome evil with good.
Although we are human, we don't wage war with human plans or methods.
I understand your zeal and I am not down playing it. I am simply saying we must trust the Father, know that vengeance is His, and that He will requite.
As for the U.S. Let us, as a nation, secure our borders with all that is within us, and prosecute the offenders we 'know by the reliable witness and testimony of two or three' to the full extent of the law, rather than persecuting a people or a religion.
---joseph on 9/11/10


I agree with the statement, "Remember, mima, we do not war against flesh and blood."

However, if this is true now, why was it not true when the crusaders went to the Holy Land, Jerusalem, and killed Jews and muslims? If it was right to murder muslims then, why not now? BTW, no, I don't think it was right then, nor now.
---Rod4Him on 9/11/10


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\\my KJV Holy Bible has all i need to know about my God and his name is Jesus, when people get their nose in this book and that book they become so confused they don't know what they believe\\

Lea, is your KJV complete, or does it have a great big hole in it?

And which KJV do you use? The original of 1611? The latest British revision of 1769? Or the ABS recension normalized according to American spellings of 1904?
---Cluny on 9/11/10


joseph, You speak of spiritual warefare when we are indeed at war with a deadly enemy, islam. There is a difference in spiritual warefare and war fare. If God is for us, who can be against us. This is a christian country being invaded by a demanding and deadly enemy.
---shira3877 on 9/11/10


Trish do the Muslim students and adults you have spoke to use the same "holy writings" as the other Muslims do? Do they believe their writings. Do they know their founder was married to a six year old? Does it make a difference?
---Elder on 9/11/10


"Our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world, wicked spirits in the heavenly realms. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for [the] pulling down [of] strongholds [within]. [We are to put aside] arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought [within ourselves] into captivity to the obedience of Christ. [Therefore let the believer] put on the whole armor of God, that [we] may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil." No reason to battle a religion or it's advocates, when one embraces one's relationship with the Father.
---joseph on 9/11/10


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Genesis 16:12 reads --

"And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brothers."

These are the words that the Angel spoke to Haggar before her son Ishmael was born. The Angel was informing Haggar that her own son WOULD be a constant opponent to other nations.

This is what we can see in the constant struggles between Israel and it's not-so-friendly neighbors. Wars, Terrorism, etc.

This fighting against Islam, and other worldly religions, will continue until Jesus Christ returns.
---Augie on 9/11/10


No. Islam is not at war with us, only a smal lgroup of people misusing the religion. We have many Islams in the USA that are American. What we should do is stop focusing on islam or the "gossip" and start focusing on our families & other things working toward Gods kingdom.War isn't one of them.
---candice on 9/11/10


Now why would i want to go study the Koran or figure out how these people believe? In my Bible its tells me that Isaac was born to Abraham and Sarah by Promise and Ishmael was born to a bond servant Hagai and the Arab tribe which are Muslims came from Ishmael . If you are a Christian then you are of the seed of Abraham.

my KJV Holy Bible has all i need to know about my God and his name is Jesus, when people get their nose in this book and that book they become so confused they don't know what they believe.

if these people{muslims} don't like life here in the good ole USA i say go home to where you were born and stay.
---Lea on 9/11/10


If "we" means us who are in the one nation of God's holy people of Jesus, Paul says, "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled." (2 Corinthians 10:4-6) I see the main warfare is against what can be in our own hearts and thoughts. And this warfare is against Islam and all else of Satan's kingdom, including against how worldly Americans boast in and trust military and self-exalting methods of fighting their enemies.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/11/10


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Elder: You are certainly correct about the Five Pillars not being the end-all, be-all of Islam. However, they are the basic tenets of that faith. I have spoken with many Muslim students and adults and have learned that the Islamic Extremists that make the news do not reflect the way these Muslims have been taught. They live out peaceably among all of my other students and the community at large, and do not reflect the hatred that is taught as being the tenets of Islam.
---Trish9863 on 9/11/10


I believe that we are taking no action. It seems to me that Islam is calling all the shots. What are we afraid of? If the Muslim's god is under attack, RAGE. But, when Jesus is under attack, we passively sit back and do nothing. Yes, I'm glad there is a hell. You better know I am. Hallelujah. THE LONGER THAT I LIVE THE HAPPIER I AM.
---catherine on 9/10/10


"You know nothing about the basic teachings of Islam. Study the Five Pillars of Faith. None of them say anything about what you claim to be the tenets of Islam."
Trish9863
Trish there is a lot more to the teaching of Islam than just the Five Pillars.
---Elder on 9/10/10


You are an idiot.
---atheist on 9/10/10


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Remember, mima, we do not war against flesh and blood.
---Cluny on 9/10/10


muhammedism(the teachings from book called the holy koran)is a protest against foreigners-mainly jews and christians-some being blue eyed devils.These are nonmuslims who number with the pagans.These blend into a soup group called infidels-worthless ungodlessness upon the earth.
The koran remains as the fuel for this protest.Not all are protesting and not all muslims understand their holy koran very well.But all are taught to believe it is the word of God as do the teachers of christianity teach the holy bible..
As time has moved foward and technology has advanced the ease of advancing the protest to a global military exercise became most prosperous for the heaven bound suicide radical muslim.
Muslims are at war with non muslims.
---earl on 9/10/10


The Pilgrims (who wee Christians) set up a dictatorship of their own"
---Cluny on 9/10/10

They also tried living according to their own version of COMMUNISM: Common House, Common Farmland, etc. This didn't work out too well. That is why the Pilgrims eventually had to "divide" the farmland among the settlers.

Anything that is CONTRARY to the Bible. Like Islam, Communism, etc. will eventually fail.

Christians are to be the LIGHT that overcomes the DARKNESS of the world.
---Sag on 9/10/10


I believe that the "religions" here are at war with one another. However a spirit filled believer has no business in such nonsense. Religiousness is a sin, relationship Is what matters.
"having a form of godliness but denying the power...
---Davepope on 9/10/10


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Romans 12:14-18, "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
---bruce5656 on 9/10/10


This is NOT a true statement. The Bible says that light can NOT have fellowship with darkness. Christians are at war with Islam because the tenants of the Koran say that they MUST steal, kill, destroy, lie, decieve, confuse, and bring fear - ALL of these are the same tenants (character) of Satan. Christians can NOT have fellowship with someone who has the character of Satan. ...---Leslie on 9/10/10

Wow, yours is the best post on the subject. Leslie....it would seem that the politically correct tolerators are the wide way wouldn't it.
I hear some bragg how they invite the diverse and even anti-christian to speak in their churches....so we can accept all faiths all beliefs. What a bunch of cowards.
One World Idiots.
---Trav on 9/10/10


Leslie: You know nothing about the basic teachings of Islam. Study the Five Pillars of Faith. None of them say anything about what you claim to be the tenets of Islam.
---Trish9863 on 9/10/10


\\Therefore, we are constantly at war with Islam, because they do NOT believe in peace, but war and bringing communist government.\\

Ummmmm......

Mahometanism believes in some kind of deity.

Communism is atheism.

Therefore, it is not the goal of mahometanism to bring a communist government.

"Communism" and "dictatorship" are not synonyms. The Pilgrims (who wee Christians) set up a dictatorship of their own, remember. It was just as oppressive and just as intolerant of dissent.
---Cluny on 9/10/10


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This is NOT a true statement. The Bible says that light can NOT have fellowship with darkness. Christians are at war with Islam because the tenants of the Koran say that they MUST steal, kill, destroy, lie, decieve, confuse, and bring fear - ALL of these are the same tenants (character) of Satan. Christians can NOT have fellowship with someone who has the character of Satan. Therefore, we are constantly at war with Islam, because they do NOT believe in peace, but war and bringing communist government. The whole point is to DESTROY democratic government (America's freedoms), and REPLACE it with Communism ("you do what I say or I will kill you"). It will make Hitler look like patty-cake.
---Leslie on 9/10/10


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