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Bless The Jews For Blessings

There are some Protestant sects that believe that if you bless the Jews, God will bless you. So they go out of their way to help Jews in order to seek favor with God. So are the rewards for these works to be considered indulgences? Many Tele-Evangelicals are also "selling" blessings!

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Trav, if it is so simple why do you not understant that there is only one way into the kingdom of God? Through Christ? There is no back door for Israel. There is only one gate.
---Mark_V. on 11/27/13

An example of why you draw so much disgust. The False witness of your words.

The Lord came for Israel, as stated. All prophets speak of the redemption....and the redeemer.
I'v only pointed to the ones it is written too for a purpose. Someone needs too. You ignore/discard them and insert yourself. You are not alone in this.
What gain you hope for by the exclusion is your own tangle. But, is stated in scripture.

Psa_105:25 He turned their heart to hate his people, to deal subtilly with his servants.
---Trav on 11/29/13


Trav, if it is so simple why do you not understant that there is only one way into the kingdom of God? Through Christ? No one goes in without Christ. There is no back door for Israel. There is only one gate.
You can talk about juda, one house two houses, even three of you want, every single human being who is born, must go through Christ.
Salvation is by the Grace of God through faith.
---Mark_V. on 11/27/13


Trav, you did not answer my answers. Now you give (Luke 1:68) out of context.
---Mark_V. on 11/23/13


Out of your context. The prophets and scriptures given are the entire story of who and why.
I don't have your answers Mark, only you have your answers. You ask a question...then answer your own question. You've got a real circle going there.

I can never leave a prophet for markv blindness. You will never leave the dark for a prophets light. Pretty simple really.

To the sheep:Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
---Trav on 11/25/13


Trav, you did not answer my answers. Now you give (Luke 1:68) out of context. In the context the passages is talking about the New covenant that was to be through Jesus Christ the Messiah. He had visited His people and redeemed them from bondage. If you read(v.77) after verse(v.68) we are told
"To give knowledge of salvation unto His people by the remission of their sins" Yes, He will redeem many of His people once they receive knowledge of salvation by the remission of sins. (v.79
"To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace" Zacharia spoke of the coming Messiah who would do all those things. Has not happen to this day.
---Mark_V. on 11/23/13


Trav, you have no support.

Psa_130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities."
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13

I claim all the prophets of Israel...writing to Israel...as support.

You cannot or will not understand that:
Judah is 1 of 12 sons of Israel. Judah does not equal all Israel.
Those that discover/verify this are in part free from the confusion and non scripturally witnessed teachings and doctrines of today in the so called churches of today.
Two houses = All Israel...his people.
His death and sacrifice...put into effect the New Covenant: Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31.
Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
---Trav on 11/23/13




Trav, you have no support. You say,
"Well....Israel knows after the fact now is the point of the scripture.
Psa_130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities."
If God does do that, it will be through Christ Jesus blood. There is no other way in Scripture. They need to be born of the Spirit, for those in the flesh will not enter heaven.
Then you say,
"The others explain themselves. Abraham and Jacob are the points of light to home in on." Yes they do, but they do not explain Israel is saved right now, and many are still dying in their sin, without Christ, and in the future many more will die in their sin. After death there is no salvation. Their chance is gone. No purgatory for them.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13


Trav, you added to the passages. First one Luke 24:21,
"But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel"

They were hoping before He died on the cross.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13

Well....Israel knows after the fact now is the point of the scripture.
Psa_130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

The others explain themselves. Abraham and Jacob are the points of light to home in on. For instance a lost sheep woman of Israel found mentions her father:
Joh 4:12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, his children, and his cattle?
---Trav on 11/22/13


Trav, you added to the passages. First one Luke 24:21,
"But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel" They were hoping before He died on the cross.
The second Luke 4:21)
And He began to say the them, Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing" This was the claim that He was the Messiah who fulfilled the prophecy. They correctly understood His meaning but could not accept such a claim from the One whom they knew so well as the carpenter's son (v.22).
Then Luke 19:9) speaking to Zacchaeus and his house Luke 19:8,
"And Jesus said to him (zacchaeus) Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham," Nothing about salvation for Israel.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13


Trav, it was a story, a great vision he saw, and of course it was a prophesy. But remember to this day nothing has happen to the nation of Israel.
---Mark_V. on 11/20/13

Nothing has happened to this day?
Then your Bible is void to you and them.

Luk_24:21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
Luk_4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Luk_19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.

Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31
---Trav on 11/21/13


Trav, it was a story, a great vision he saw, and of course it was a prophesy. But remember to this day nothing has happen to the nation of Israel. Yet since the time of the Apostolic Church people from Israel with faith have been coming to Christ. We are told not all Israel is Israel, one is of the flesh (1 Cor. 10:18) and the other the Israel of God (Gal. 6:16). So who is the "all Israel" in Romans 11:26) the answer in the context. Paul wrote:
"I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am an apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh (Jews) and save some of them" (Rom. 11:13,14).
Why? because many were dying in their sins.
---Mark_V. on 11/20/13




Trav, Ezekiel, "a vision" of the dry bones. Second.
Is Israel ruled right now by David? No. Great story,.....
---Mark_V. on 11/19/13

Story??
It is a prophecy. It is a witness illuminating your false doctrine on ghosts of Israel.

Hos 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
---Trav on 11/20/13


Trav, Ezekiel, "a vision" of the dry bones. But did you read it all? (v. 37:24) tells us when that happens to Israel, gathered from all nations,
"David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in My judgments and observe My statues, and go them"First of all, to this day Israel as a nation has not kept the Judgments and statues of God. Second.
Is Israel ruled right now by David? No. Is Israel without sin? And how will anyone be saved? God has to put His Spirit in them, otherwise they never enter heaven. Great story, its just that none of it has happen to Israel to this day. But individuals who put their faith in Christ as their Lord, are being saved.
---Mark_V. on 11/19/13


To this day Israel as a nation is still lost. No matter the house...
Anyone in the flesh will not enter heaven.
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13

You make the point again and again with confused doctrinal opinion.... instead of by a prophet.
Hmmmmm,...who do we choose....word/works of markv or word of a prophet??
Eze 37:6 I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you,cover you with skin, and put breath in you, ye shall live, ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones, Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Eze 37:21 say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen,
---Trav on 11/19/13


Trav, it matters not what house you belong to, if you do not have faith in Jesus Christ and His works on the cross you are not saved. You can count the other house out if you want, but if anyone from that house has faith in Jesus Christ they too will be saved. And if any Gentile from any nation believes in Christ by faith, they too will be saved. To this day Israel as a nation is still lost. No matter the house they belong to. Whether you are a Judean's or not. You cannot escape the cross. Only one way in to heaven, you must be born again of the Spirit.
Anyone in the flesh will not enter heaven.
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13


Trav, I can determine by your answers that you are a jew and only want salvation for Jews, because your arguments are for the Jews,
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13

You do not determine very well. For the 150th time...Judah is 1/12th of Israel.
Lost Sheep Nations/gentiles are the other 10/12ths. 10/12ths by being divorced of GOD. But, he prophecied he would "redeem" these lost sheep. He did,he does/will. By a death sacrifice, effecting a New Covenant,Heb 8:8 and Jer 31:31.

You, ignore the defining scriptures of the Lord and prophets. You attempt to teach scripturally unwitnessed doctrines of men.
I am not Judean by known paths.
Just a believer in GOD, his servants the prophets and Israels redeemer YAHshua.
---Trav on 11/18/13


Trav, remember
"Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-who are called uncircumcision by what is called circumcision made in the flesh by hands-that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation.. to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross" (Eph. 2:11-16). its the truth, come out of the fog.
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13


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Trav, I can determine by your answers that you are a jew and only want salvation for Jews, because your arguments are for the Jews, never for everyone else. You are missing the whole of Scripture. After healing large number of people Jesus "warned them not to make Him kown, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "Behold! My Servant, whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles, He will not quarrel are cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets. A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory" (Matt. 12:16-20).
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13


Trav, ...later Jesus appeared to Paul assigning him to preach to the Gentiles.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/13

So Jesus you would have, all of GOD's prophets, all the disciples/Apostles suddenly go against all they have been commanded and written??
Not only is this not logical it is not scripturally witnessed.
You waste a lot of your life trying to change/remold what is unchangable once it has been put into place by GOD.

Isa 29:23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel.
Isa 29:24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.
---Trav on 11/17/13


Trav, reading the passage (v.22) a woman of Canaan came to Jesus and asked for mercy
"O Lord, Son of David My daughter is demon-possessed." The disciples wanted to make her go away, Jesus then said, " I was not send except to the lost sheep of Israel" Jesus didn't say He came to save only the lost sheep of Israel. He was preaching the gospel to them.
(Matt. 10:6) where Jesus tells the twelve "but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and as you go, preach saying "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" Jesus told the Canaan woman who was not a Jew, "O woman, great is your faith" and later Jesus appeared to Paul assigning him to preach to the Gentiles.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/13


Trav, I believe you are trying to say that Jesus salvation is only for the lost sheep of Israel, and not for the Gentiles when you gave that passage in (Mat_15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
---Mark_V. on 11/13/13

Trying to say??
This is Jesus own words.
The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel were the 10 patriarch tribes of the Northern House that were Divorced/put away by GOD.
Who by the way are still lost to us....but, not GOD. As per the scriptures posted and:
Amo_9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
---Trav on 11/14/13


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Trav, I believe you are trying to say that Jesus salvation is only for the lost sheep of Israel, and not for the Gentiles when you gave that passage in (Mat_15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
While He was alive in His humanity, He was only interested in the Jews, but specific Jews. Jesus narrowed His priority when He said the gospel was only for those who were spiritually sick (Matt. 9:13) and needed a physician (Luke 5:31,32). But at the Cross the vial came down, and now salvation was for both, Jews and Gentiles. The two become one new man.
---Mark_V. on 11/13/13


Trav, God gathered the nation of Israel many times, and each time they fail Him.

The gospel is open to all who will receive faith in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 11/12/13

Point only where GOD will do as he wants to do. With who he wants to do.
His entire creation, and I'm perfectly comfortable with his creator rights.
When you attempt to change/mold or avoid like some poser preachers clear scriptural statements ....it is on you.
As a blog site I'll post/point to the defining scriptures.
Sheep being sheep are not brave enough to change what their shepherd has addressed to them.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 11/13/13


MarkV, that is the truth. Jesus is the only way, truth, and life. And no one comes unto His Father, except through Him. I do believe however God's favor is still on Israel, and that His hand of protection shall be on them. How many times do we as individuals fail God, yet He has never forsaken us. I continually pray for the peace of Jerusalem. But I also pray that they will come into the saving grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
---Jed on 11/12/13


Trav, God gathered the nation of Israel many times, and each time they fail Him. So many times He even help them against all the other nations and when they failed he allowed them to be slaves to those other nations. That does not mean their will not be a remnant from Israel in the future, but all of them will have to put their faith in Christ just like everyone else. God did not abandon Israel, there will be many coming to Christ in the future, only that many other nations will also have many coming to Christ also. The gospel is open to all who will receive faith in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 11/12/13


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God no longer have a favourite nation as Israel was because of their disobedience and nonbelief.
---janz on 11/4/13

Where do you get this idea/doctrine?
Why can't GOD a man creator prefer as he likes? You do.

Isa_54:7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee, but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Amo_9:9 For, lo, I will command, I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 11/6/13


thanks Trav yes, and Judah.
---janz on 11/6/13


As this Catholic also believes as well.
It can't hurt.
---Nikki on 7/27/13

The Christians blessing the Jews is Biblically being obedient to God's word.
---jan4378 on 7/26/13

Janz, has it partially right. Except he should question intensely Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31. Which by the way also say, "and" Judah.

And it can hurt Nikki. Just because they claim to be does not make it so.
10 virgins of Israel will realize/know this at some point.

Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Show the scripture jan4378 on how you are obeying. I'm betting you won't.
---Trav on 11/4/13


How can the Jews bless anyone when God's blessing went to the Gentiles after the Jews stoned Stephen? God left the Jews then because they didnt want to believe that Jesus who was a Jew is the Savior. God no longer have a favourite nation as Israel was because of their disobedience and nonbelief. Bless yourselves by believing God Almighty and not man. Amen
---janz on 11/4/13


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There are some Protestant sects that believe that if you bless the Jews, God will bless you.--Ignatius

As this Catholic also believes as well.

It can't hurt.
---Nikki on 7/27/13


The Christians blessing the Jews is Biblically being obedient to God's word.
---jan4378 on 7/26/13


I agree with some writers.
---arthur_poorman on 6/13/13


If blood ties has anything to do with blessings then Google "Shlomo Sand" and hear some of his material.

---John on 6/8/13

If not for "All Israel"...then there would be no blessings period. You would not be reading scripture.

Judah rejected Christ. The northern house of Israel composed of ten.....did not.

Confusion is, Judah being all Israel.....because of foolish preachers,men. They have no "Truth" by the evidence of disregarding all that the prophets give for witness.
Note in Heb 8:8...AND Judah....

Note: Matt 15:24...I am not sent but unto
Just because the say they are Judean/Jew does not make them one. As was pointed out to me.
---Trav on 6/13/13


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If blood ties has anything to do with blessings then Google "Shlomo Sand" and hear some of his material. IF there is belovedness for the sake of their bloodlines then pray that the Palestinians are assimilated into Israel and not isolated in a siege and exterminated.
---John on 6/8/13


Hi everyone, I have a hard question I hope someone can answer: it seems "selfish" to not want to share the land of Israel so why does God want His people to be selfish? ... no floggings lol :)
---Mary on 9/18/10

It's an easily found/answered question in scripture Mary. You have to look for it. But,doc's/denom's do, and do not like it out of ingnorance/jealousness.
GOD was married to the Whole House of Israel. Which is 10 times more than just Judah.
As a wife...so she gets a little piece of land. I don't have a problem with it. No more than you or my wife does when she gets preference over other women.
Being "chosen", is also found in the New Covenant.
---Trav on 9/20/10


The history is this:

After WWI, The League of Nations granted Great Britain the Mandate for Palestine, which included responsibility for securing "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people".After the Holocaust of WWII, the UN and pres. Truman urged the formation of a Jewish state in their historical homeland.

On May 14, 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, the Jewish Agency proclaimed independence, naming the country Israel. The following day, the armies of four Arab countries-Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq (there was no nation of "Palestine" then) attacked Israel, launching the 1948 ArabIsraeli War.
They are a modern Parlimentarian Democracy.
---DonnaDonna66 on 9/18/10


From a monetary and "Allied" position still today. We have provide/d mega millions to their defense and economy.... ---Trav on 9/18/10

our green is their gold.

as I said, the UN and CFR funds a nation using the US and GB as a financial front.
---aka on 9/18/10


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If it were not for the U.S. and Britian there would be no country called Israel.//

Actually, the modern state of Israel is do to the UN and CFR. The US and GB were the fronts.
---aka on 9/17/10

From a monetary and "Allied" position still today.
We have provide/d mega millions to their defense and economy. U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget
They have stockpiled enough in their arsenal to defend themselves, solitary for two years. The can field more divisions of military than the U.S. because of their women serve along with the men.
---Trav on 9/18/10


Hi everyone, I have a hard question I hope someone can answer: it seems "selfish" to not want to share the land of Israel so why does God want His people to be selfish? I thought sharing was a good thing? I'm just asking an honest question, so please, no floggings lol :)
---Mary on 9/18/10


..If it were not for the U.S. and Britian there would be no country called Israel.//

Actually, the modern state of Israel is do to the UN and CFR. The US and GB were the fronts.
---aka on 9/17/10


The ugly face of being anti-Jewish will always come forth. It came forward in the days of Columbus, it came forth with horrible result in the days of Hitler, and even now as some of these post-show, anti-Jewish sentiment is on the rise.

The Jewish race is a miraculous people Isaac was born long after the natural time. And so his birth was miraculous directly from God, who in the Bible, explains the uniqueness of the Jewish people to the land (physical land) of Israel. The Bible student should understand this relation between the Jews and their land.
---mima on 9/17/10


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May I point out that the modern socialist, racist state called Israel is filled with the very people who would be called LOST in no uncertain terms if they lived anywhere else?

Why does living on a particular patch of land give them special standing before God?
---Cluny on 9/15/10

Lost? Three quarters on those calling themselves jews live in the U.S.
If it were not for the U.S. and Britian there would be no country called Israel. Wouldn't have become,or remain a country or with out this support.
This little patch does not give them special standing. They do not nor ever will represent ALL Israel.
The misunderstanding and ignorance of scripture by denominational churches fuel the engine of this thinking.
---Trav on 9/17/10


Why does living on a particular patch of land give them special standing before God? ---Cluny on 9/15/10

woe to those who consider themselves Jews who are not Jews.

Pseudo-Zionism...help all the Jews without any relevance...your green is their gold.
---aka on 9/16/10


May I point out that the modern socialist, racist state called Israel is filled with the very people who would be called LOST in no uncertain terms if they lived anywhere else?

Why does living on a particular patch of land give them special standing before God?
---Cluny on 9/15/10


Jesus told the undoubtedly biological descendants of Abraham, "You are children of your father the devil."

And St. Paul in Galatians 4:22ff makes it clear that the Jews are spiritually children of Hagar, and thus not heirs of the promise.
---Cluny on 9/12/10

Likely they were of Esau. Stating they were never under bondage revealing who they were. All Israel was in bondage at one time or another.
Esau's prophecy was that he would eventually throw off his brothers yoke.
John 8:33
They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Just because they say they are Jews does not make them Judahites. Note Revelations.
---Trav on 9/15/10


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\\the rcc started the indulgences scheme way back in the dark ages\\

Wrong again, Rhonda.

\\still today soaking their followers for many millions is why the rcc cult is a mega wealth machine\\

And, of course, the little conventicle you attend NEVER asks for money, does it?

As a matter of fact, the budget of the Holy See ("the Vatican") is less than that of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.

As one old pastor said, "Salvation is free, but the church costs money."
---Cluny on 9/14/10


the rcc started the indulgences scheme way back in the dark ages

still today soaking their followers for many millions is why the rcc cult is a mega wealth machine

only stands to reason that mainstream christianity (any BRAND of the MOTHER rcc) would soon follow suit

help your fellow man by all means ...if led to help a particular group do so out of pure intentions to SERVE

when one is doing any "blessing" or service for the wicked intentions of helping themselves they will reap the rewards of wrong actions at some later point in life
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


I have supported Jewish ministries and Jewish congregations since I became a believer.

I have held the belief that we should try and provoke the Jews to jealousy by our love for them as described in Romans 11.

The Jews are not rejected, and will never be, and there will be a time when the original branches will be grafted back in.

Remember, Romans 11:28 says "from the standpoint of God's choice, they are beloved for the sake of their fathers".
---Mark_Eaton on 9/13/10


I tried it last year for the first time. I gave a portion of my inheritance to a Messianic Jewish ministry ONLY because God showed me this ministry and I loved the Pastor's teachings.

12 months later (now) I finally realized why God spared my life when I was in the hospital and almost died. I'm not saying God actually told me that, but something supernatural happened and the doctors told me I had a miracle, that my liver stopped bleeding just as they were trying to get me med-o-vacked to another hospital for emergency surgery.

I gave because I wanted to show God how much I loved Him and how much I trust Him and I think God spared my life because it was a Messianic Jewish Ministry.
---Donna5535 on 9/13/10


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\\If people believe they can get rewards for giving blessings to the Jew, that sounds like some kind of indulgence. Similar to "giving remission of sins and direct passage to heaven if one joined the "Crusaders."\\

You might want to look up what the Roman Catholic Church actually teaches about indulgences.

Contrary to popular thought, they are NOT time out of purgatory.
---Cluny on 9/13/10


I think everyone here is correct. Just wanted to state that whenever our motivation is 'give something to get something' or 'do something to get something in return' here on earth, then we have our reward. That type of motivation seems more like greed or need to me. I believe God would have us do or give expecting nothing in return. People who preach to do good deeds in order to "prosper" here on earth have a dangereous slant.
---jody on 9/12/10


---Elder on 9/12/10 If you know the truth (God's Word)you will be able to determine the false from the true. Things like this become simple. "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you."

1. The verse comes from Gen 12 when Abraham is still Abram...chosen...yes...but not a Jew.

2. Let's finish the verse... "and in you (Abram) shall all families of the earth be blessed.

3. Jesus says in Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, ....

Seems from from 1, 2, and 3...no matter who you bless and do not curse will be a blessing.
---aka on 9/12/10


Elder of course is correct. If you consider receiving rewards for obeying God to be indulgences then you should consider that it is an indulgence okayed by God.

---Ignatius I believe you know that Elder is correct in his statement. If so, being wrong will not send you to hell, but it will definitely cost you rewards.
---mima on 9/12/10


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I wish I knew. Elder points out what the Bible says, at face value, the answer sounds simple. However, several issues come to mind. One, how can one bless the Jews when they are not following Christ? unless the blessing is to bring Christ to them. Two, how would one bless the Jew if he/she wanted to?

If people believe they can get rewards for giving blessings to the Jew, that sounds like some kind of indulgence. Similar to "giving remission of sins and direct passage to heaven if one joined the "Crusaders." Sorry, I couldn't help myself with that comparision.

Great question and good comparision with "Word of Life" types who sell the idea of "doing something," usually for them, to get something.
---Rod4Him on 9/12/10


The true children of Abraham are those who worship Abraham's Tri-personned God, as seen in Genesis 19.

Jesus told the undoubtedly biological descendants of Abraham, "You are children of your father the devil."

And St. Paul in Galatians 4:22ff makes it clear that the Jews are spiritually children of Hagar, and thus not heirs of the promise.
---Cluny on 9/12/10


I Love & pray for the Jewish people. Any & or All that has ill hate etc to the Jewish Will suffer the consequences Later, whether in this life or the aft - life.
---Lawrence on 9/12/10


If you know the truth (God's Word)you will be able to determine the false from the true. Things like this become simple.
"I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you."
---Elder on 9/12/10


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