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Spoken To An Angel

About angels the Bible says in Hebrews 1:14, "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"
1. How do they minister to us?
2. Can we commend our angels?
3. Have you ever spoken to your angels?

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you will see that "ministering spirits" is actually a BIBLICAL teaching.
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and AGAIN Cluny I never stated ministering spirits was NOT a BIBLCIAL TEACHING

one must ADD idea that ministering spirits really means we command angels and they speak to us ...these FALSE concepts must be IMPLIED - seeing the implied ideas are unfound in Holy Scripture

big difference between BIBLICAL TEACHING and those who speak ABOUT Biblical teachings

unlike you Cluny I am not on an emotional defense crusade which has YOU missing most points from other posters too and clearly most points from Holy Scripture ..however it is very amusing I am your personal attack mission lately LOL
---Rhonda on 9/28/10


Thank you Bruce. :) You're right, I'm working on studying my Bible a lot more, it's the only way to get through some days and I intend to get much better at it. :) Bless you :)
---Mary on 9/15/10


\\ministering spirits are IMPLIED by false ministers to be known NOT Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 9/14/10
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If you will open your Bible, Rhonda--or even simply read the opening post--you will see that "ministering spirits" is actually a BIBLICAL teaching.

You know, Rhonda, I think you're merely simply reacting half the time (at least), instead of giving thought to your posts.
---Cluny on 9/15/10


Mary, if, as a Christian, you cannot find comfort in this: Hebrews 13:5, "he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." all the angels together will not bring you the comfort you seek.

Please consider this:1 John 4:18-19, "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us."
---Bruce5656 on 9/15/10


Thank you Cluny, you're absolutely right :)
---Mary on 9/15/10




\\and asked God, if it's His will for me, to allow me to sense the presence of an angel soon.\\

I've learned that sometimes it's the present distress (in your case, anxiety attacks) that one must pray, "Thy will be done," and strength is given to bear it.

There's a saying, "Sometimes the Lord calms the storm. And sometimes He lets the storm rage and instead calms His child."
---Cluny on 9/15/10


many believe they have spoken to Angels that serve The Father in Heaven unable to comprehend they have spoke to fallen angels who serve Satan

ministers of Satan do appear as ministers of light ...serving a BRAND of the worlds religious christianity you have chosen to embrace Heb 1:14 at expense of 2Corin 11:13-15

Christ did say a wicked generation seeks for signs ...many distort Holy Scripture to promote their lies seeking attention and recognition of mortal men

True Christians SEEK Christ not misusing one scripture to fit their own purpose and agenda easily fulfilled by demons

Christ stated to worship and serve in truth and spirit ...ministering spirits are IMPLIED by false ministers to be known NOT Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


Hi Donna, what a blessing it must be to be able to smell your angels nearby :) That is so awesome! I thought of your post today during a time of fear (which I've been dealing with all week--anxiety attacks left and right!) and asked God, if it's His will for me, to allow me to sense the presence of an angel soon. :) I hope he says "Yes" to that, would be such a comfort. :)
---Mary on 9/14/10


\\By the way, I think we should pray to God and ask for them when we need them, never pray to them directly - Cluny, is this right? or am I wrong here?\\

The Bible contains many examples of direct invocation of angels.

One of the best known is Psalm 103:20 (Hebrew).

The invocation of angels is therefore quite Biblical.
---Cluny on 9/14/10


Donna5538-

Asking the Holy Angels (in general) or any specific Angel for their intercession was part of Ancient Judaism (Talmudic literature records it) and Ancient Christianity. Remember, we are just asking their intercession, much like you would ask a earthly person for their prayers. We know from the Old Testament (Book of Tobit, canonical to the majority of Christians) and New Testament (Book of Revelation) that the Angels in heaven are aware of the situations on Earth and offer God our prayers.

The word "prayer" means "ask or entreat". In mediaeval times when a royal court official was asking something of a person who outranked him, he would say "I pray thee your majesty."

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/13/10




"1. How do they minister to us?"
Personal appearances, dreams and visions.
However I would think that most of the time they minister unto us in ways we are not aware of. Maybe simply as a kind word or act from a complete stranger. Act 12:7-27:23>Mat 1:20>Act 10:3>Hbr 13:2
2. Can we commend our angels? If you mean praise as worthy of confidence. I would not. All praises are due the Father.
3. Have you ever spoken to your angels? Not that I am aware of.
---josef on 9/14/10


Angels roles today have been greatly diminished since the Pentecost. Because of the larger role played by the Holy Spirit in the lives of Christians, and I like that. I want the real thing. I want Jesus, Himself. Thank You+
---catherine on 9/13/10


I smell my angels. I have two. One smells like Roses and one smells like Olive Oil.

They come to my aid for different reasons, at different times, and it's not an everyday thing.

They minister to us as the Lord directs them. In word and deed.

I have never spoken to my angels and I don't command them to do anything, isn't God their boss?

By the way, I think we should pray to God and ask for them when we need them, never pray to them directly - Cluny, is this right? or am I wrong here?
---Donna5535 on 9/13/10


1) By their Holy intercessions and prayers. Remember Revelation 8:3-4? They also at times divinely intervene in our earthly lives (we find such occurrences in the Lives of the Saints, The Synaxarion, etc).

2) Please explain further.

3) Seeking the intercession of our Guardian Angel or any Holy Angel(i.e., for example Saint Gabriel the Archangel or Saint Michael the Archangel) or Angels in general was part of Ancient Judaism and Ancient Christianity, and all Ancient Apostolic Churches today still do. It is part of the spirituality of the Church.

I have such invocation in my prayer book.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/13/10


Jesus' angels minister to us in word and in deed. And I commend Christ, not angels. I speak only to Christ, whom is Lord of the angels, and not angels.
---Eloy on 9/13/10


"Be not forgetful to entertain [show hospitality, be gracious to] strangers: for thereby some have entertained [hosted] angels unawares." Hebrews 13:2
---Leon on 9/13/10


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1. By their intercessions and suggestions. A hunch can easily be a punch from your guardian angel.

2. Did you mean "command?" I can't answer this question until clarified.

3. Invocation of one's guardian angel (which are quite Biblical) are part of the spiritual practice of all the Apostolic pre-reformation Churches.
---Cluny on 9/13/10


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