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TBN Ministry Said No Money

Today, I was watching one of TBN's channels and saw something I never have seen before on TBN, which shocked me. Several times a Ministry had on the screen "PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY". "This program is our gift you you". What are your thoughts?

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Eloy:

For once, I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. I have seen a fair number of preachers (usually in TV mega-ministries) who come off as cheap snake-oil salesmen.

On the other hand, I think there are a fair number who are genuinely saved and sincere, and start out doing good things, but when their tiny godly ministry starts to get big, it develops a life of its own, and becomes a god unto itself. Some preachers can avoid that, while others don't even see it happening.
---StrongAxe on 3/27/11


Very touching brother Eloy, I too have been blessed in live Worship with Michael W. Smith.
God can use all types of vessels to spread the gospel and his blessing. There are those who were saved at an alter call from Swaggart's preaching, Bakker's foolishness and even Obama's Rev Wright from the United Church of Christ.
The penalty these bozos face for misguiding or manipulating the flock is serious, but if God waited on the righteous vessel many more would be doomed instead of redeemed. The rocks will cry out.
---larry on 3/26/11


Joseph, A-men.
---Eloy on 3/25/11


I too, have been dismayed at preachers who subtily imply that salvation can be bought. I also know that running a television program isn't cheap. I don't mind supporting a program/ministry that works hard to share the unadulterated gospel. It's one way that I can be a part of sharing the good news as all Christians are called to do. However...too many T.V. preachers/ministries do all BUT share the gospel. If they spent more time telling people about Jesus than they do asking for money...I'd be more apt to support them.
---Joseph on 3/25/11


I have watched TBN tonight and I was very blessed, TBN had the Christian singer Michael W. Smith on, and he ministered in song to all whom have suffered abuse. It was a very blessed show. Thank you Jesus. Lord Papa, please continue to use TBN for your glory, continue to minister your grace, and continue to spread your gospel across the land. In you Jesus I pray. A-men.
---Eloy on 9/29/10




Paul Crouch has properly been rebuked for teaching error, and is disqualified for the ministry, and to continue to support T.B.N. is an act of rebellion. Matthew 18:17, 1Corinthians 5:5-13.
Eloy 9/26, his pseudo-seeing "I have an everlasting lake of fire and brimstone awaiting each one of these robber preachers." can not be true because God will save anyone who repents by receiving Jesus as Savior, Luke 23:43, 2Peter 3:9. Perhaps, Eloy meant to write got - spell, rather than gospel. Christians, please consider him to be a heretic. Isaiah 30:9-14, Jeremiah 28:15, Daniel 5:25 - Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin, Lamentations 2:14, Micah 3:5-7, Romans 2:4, 2Peter 2:9-18.
---Glenn on 9/28/10


If someone's show really had that written praise the Lord!
Most church services take up one offering and maybe a second if a visiting Evangelist is present.
These guys taking up an offering every 30 seconds is sickening and greedy.
It also as scripture says gives the enemy opportunity to blasphemy.
Every person on this site is sharing what they believe to be the word of God and some hold far more truth than most tv preachers.
That is an internet ministry.
Yet, I work to pay my cable bill to back my internet ministry as most of you do as well.
Maybe all of us should write and call these tv preachers (many times) and ask them for money to pay our cable bills.
God is no respecter of persons and we have bills as well.
---Frank on 9/27/10


It is distasteful when ministries are constantly begging for money: and it is worse when they lie and say people are robbing God by not giving their money to a pastor, when in fact the pastor is robbing the sheep: and indeed God created and owns the whole entire world and all things in it and therefore he needs no money from the creatures he created. And it is utterly blasphemous when they equate "God's seed" and "sharing his word" with "paying money" and "cursed tithes".
---Eloy on 9/27/10


It is distasteful when ministries are constantly begging for money: and it is worse when they lie and say people are robbing God by not giving their money to a pastor, when in fact the pastor is robbing the sheep: and indeed God created and owns the whole entire world and all things in it and therefore he needs no money from the creatures he created. And it is utterly blasphemous when they equate "God's seed" and "sharing his word" with "paying money" and "cursed tithes".
---Eloy on 9/27/10


Glenn, p.s. you bear false witness, and contrary to what you say, TBN is also proving to do a lot of good in propagating the gospel. And simply because you yourself dis TBN, does not mean that God desires the TBN ministry to die.
---Eloy on 9/27/10




There are ministries that God desires would die. If T.B.N. were a Bible society, they would print the $100,00 cheap rag paperback 'interlinear apostatical version'. Sadly, there have been many Godly ministers who have started a useful radio or television program, but did not get sufficient finances to continue. Jeremiah 6:20, Malachi 1:10, Luke 6:26, 1Corinthians 1:18-31, chapter 2, 3:18-21, Titus 3:8.
p.s. Eloy's prophe-sighing *1 is in conflict with *2.
*1 Deuteronomy 18:22, Ezekiel 13:1-9.
*2 Deuteronomy 4:29, Isaiah 30:18, Ezekiel 33:11, Acts 26:16-18, Romans 10:13, 1Corinthians 5:4-13, 11:19, 16:22, Galatians 1:6-9, 2:4-5, Titus 3:10-11, Jude 1:4-19, 2Peter 3:9, 2John 1:10-11.
---Glenn on 9/26/10


\\Eloy: Most preachers feel the actual building(the church) belongs to them.\\

I don't know your experience, Robyn, but this has never been the case with any church I've been affiliated with, and is not the case of where I'm presently a member.
---Cluny on 9/26/10


Robyn, I have experienced many mismanaged churches just as you have depicted, and I believe it is because the preacher is unsaved and more concerned about other things than the gospel from Jesus Christ and the salvation of people's souls. "I find these blasphemous money ministries repulsive and repugnant, a stench in my nose, and I spew them out of my mouth as vomitous and an unclean thing. These blind guides and antiChrist preachers care more about how much money they can "rob" from the naive sheep, rather than doing Christ's commandments: Therefore, says the Lord, I have an everlasting lake of fire and brimstone awaiting each one of these robber preachers."
---Eloy on 9/26/10


Eloy: Most preachers feel the actual building(the church) belongs to them. They are the founder and have direct control of everything that goes on there. No one makes any decisions , that has not been ok'd by the pastor. Oh, the pastor has certain leaders he is close to and trust. But they are few and far between. You have to have the pastor's approval on anything and everything. The congregants give money(tithes/offerings) participate somewhat(cleaning the church,sing in choir,teach, and other jobs) but that's about it. The pastor is the big Honcho in the church. He and his family reap all of the benefits. The only way a congregant will be recognized is: if they are big money spinners, do something big for the pastor/wife or his family.
---Robyn on 9/25/10


Robyn, "who builds a house without counting the cost?" If the preacher owns the church- HE should be paying for it, not the visitors who gather there to pray. period. Now if he wants to provide food and drink for the parishoners, then he can announce "bring your own dish" if he wants. Now if the church is not the preacher's own but is obtained by each member, then it would be each member's responsibility to upkeep it. But to put the price tag of the maintenance of his own church on the people is sin.
---Eloy on 9/25/10


Eloy, The problem is not money itself. It's HOW IT'S USED. How do you think Bibles are manufactured and provided? It costs SOMEBODY money to make the Bibles. And, if Bibles are handed out for free, GREAT!, but, it's going to cost SOMEONE to first purchase the Bibles, which in turn, helps pay for the cost of paper, printing and manufacturing. Yes, the Gospel is presented, to some degree, without cost, but, eventually someone, somewhere is behind the scenes funding it out of their pocket with the money GOD provides for them. These clowns who call themselves preachers, who are indeed ripping people off are giving the act of giving Tithes and Offerings a bad name. And they have their reward. But, we are not to let these phonies keep US from giving!
---Gordon on 9/25/10


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Eloy ... "Sharing the gospel with others should not cost money, all you do is open your mouth and speak: share your words of testimony on who Jesus is, and what he did for you, and what he will do"

It does cost moeny ... The missionaries who went from Britain all over the world had to travel there ... the fare cost money, which had to come from somewhere.

Similarly a TV mission will have to pay licences, buy equipmemt etc in order to work.
---alan8566_of_uk on 9/25/10


But friends do keep in mind: Nothing in this world is free. It costs to get the gospel to the ends of the world. Television,radio,tents,conference halls all cost money. When we attend church it cost to run that a/c, tissue in the bathrooms, paper towels, soft seats we sit in. Somebody paid for these luxuries, that we take for granted. I believe in giving. Lights, gas, water bills have to be paid at our churches. There are many expenses associated with a church. Snacks foods, coffee,soft drinks in the cafeteria that we think nothing about eating and drinking. Somebody paid for that food we eat. People even carry food away from my church(cooked food)But they complain about giving money in the church.
---Robyn on 9/24/10


Sharing the gospel with others should not cost money, all you do is open your mouth and speak: share your words of testimony on who Jesus is, and what he did for you, and what he will do. The "money thing" is all the peripherals people add to share their message with others: we have to "buy" television broasdcast time, "buy" more satellite dishes, "buy" tickets and hotels and food to travel to the holy land, "buy" "buy" "buy".
---Eloy on 9/23/10


Satan uses a false Christian network in the same way that he uses a false ministry, a false religion, and a pseudo Christian cult, as an alternative to truth. Neither a Christian (no matter what his motivation might be) who walks for a time down the wrong pathway, nor a believer who gives to the wrong cause serves God, Ephesians 5:1-20. Romans 15:26-27, 1Corinthians 2:16, 16:1-3, 2Corinthians 8:1-9:15, Philippians 4:10-19.
Sag: There is a common saw that says that there are three levels of giving. One, with the mind of Christ. Two, God directly giving direction, Three, as you will - which may not, be in His will.
Robyn: ...suspected that you might be a goat, now a wolf. Reap what you sow - Hosea 8:7, Matthew 13:24-30.
---Glenn on 9/22/10


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I remember someone informing me that TBN is a good way to reach: the unchurched, those folks who can't physically get to church, areas that don't have a church, etc. Hmmm.

While all of those reasons might be true to some extent, I still think "giving" to these TV ministries is a personal matter between a person and GOD.

If GOD wants you to "give", you need to be obedient to HIM. And if GOD doesn't prod you to "give", then DON'T.

I think that many of us have had the rather bad experience of having these TV ministries make us "give out of guilt" or "obligation". That isn't good. We need to look to GOD for guidance after these bad experiences.
---Sag on 9/22/10


Another view: TBN and no other ministry can make no one do anything. If I enjoy the programming that TBN airs, it would be in line for me to make a donation or give a love offering. They do not have to ask, that is just the godly thing to do. If I don't feel led to give anything, I don't. Very simple. We reap what we sow. We do have a choice whether to give or not. Plain and simple,again.
---Robyn on 9/21/10


what is the gift? blank labels for you to write down your name when you sent in your bills to the mail.
---mike on 9/20/10


maybe they want you to think they are genuine so next time you will send money when they ask for it. Maybe its another physcological trick
---Bree on 9/19/10


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I would like to point out it was not TBN saying not to send money, but another Ministry that was aired on TBN.

James L. I agree with you concernIng Tony Evans. He use to be straight forward, but I have noticed how he has changed through the years.

Saq, I ubderstand going seperate ways with friends because the same has happened with myself many times, because I refuse to support or be BRAINWASHED by false teachers.

Clunny, on occasiob I will watch both TBN and Daystar so I can see their latest lies and scams, so I can WARN OTHERS!

---Rob on 9/19/10


A few years ago, T.B.N. had a considerable slush fund sufficient to run its' "ministry" for a decade? But their principle problem is a dearth of Godly programming. Its good to have a desire to give to God, but He requires that you do so without corrupt motives, and never somewhere that the Lord doesnt want you to. Also, to donate the Kings resources to another Kingdom, and in supporting wolves and goats, means that at the least you lack moral sensitivity. 1Samuel 15:22-23, Proverbs 22:16, Isaiah 1:11-17, Jeremiah 6:20, Micah 6:8, Malachi 1:7-10, Matthew 7:17, 2Corinthians 4:1-5, 6:3, 9:6-15 (:8 "every good work", not bad work(s), Hebrews 4:12, 12:5-11 (Proverbs 3:11-12), James 2:4.
---Glenn on 9/19/10


Sounds like a false catching phrase. If it is true they'd say to send any amount donation. Not sending a certain amounts they suggest. this way it's purley on a donation bases, NOT a guilt trip...
---Candice on 9/19/10


H m m m m, do you think maybe they have All have their lavish homes & lux - cars etc All paid for, so they are trying to give something back to viewers ?
---Lawrence on 9/19/10


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It is a good thing that TBN did. Thus says Jesus: "You cannot buy God: speaker, it is your thought and your dream to start a television ministry, so you pay for that what you want to do: How do you represent me by asking people for their money every day? I the Almighty, is my hand so short that I cannot deliver? I the Lord of all, am I so poor that I need to ask for money every day?" Thus says Jesus: "When I dwelt among you all, and I showed to you the way, did I go about asking people for their money every day? Did I ask for any tithe to minister to the people? Now you go and do that what you can do, and I will do the rest, says the Lord."
---Eloy on 9/19/10


TBN isn't the only one hawking for donations.

I regularly listened to The Urban Alternative with Tony Evans, and thought one time I would make a small donation to help. I got their address and sent them $25.00, what a big mistake. Over the next year and a half they spent about $50.00 on postage alone asking for more money. I agree with the teachings, but that turned me off to their ministry.

I gree that it takes money to pay the bills, but do they trust God to provide the money, or do they trust the post office?
---James_L on 9/19/10


It takes money to do anything worthwhile.
---Robyn on 9/19/10

I've caught myself "complaining" about my church asking for more money. This post caugt me attention.

I wish churches, and ministries, would categorize our donations better. That way, we could contribute to paying for:

1) Gas & Electricity
2) Water
3) Food
4) Other Items?

I don't think that any of us DON'T WANT to donate to good causes.

I once had a good friend. We ended up "going our separate ways" because I was NOT a TBN supporter and had no desire to become one. Funny how TBN can be the "decideding factor" among friends. Or, maybe my former Christian friend was an undercover TBN agent
---Sag on 9/19/10


I saw a ministry the other day state 'yes, the Word is FREE to receive, but it takes MONEY to spread it'. I believe that. And yes, we want to be comfortable utilizing the facilities in our own churches, thus, it takes money. I guess the complaint once again is the TACTICS these networks and ministries use in order to GET the money from average folks and the LIFESTYLES they live after they do get the funding! It's scandalous!
---Lin on 9/19/10


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I saw a ministry the other day state 'yes, the Word is FREE to receive, but it takes MONEY to spread it'. I believe that. And yes, we want to be comfortable utilizing the facilities in our own churches, thus, it takes money. I guess the complaint once again is the TACTICS these networks and ministries use in order to GET the money from average folks and the LIFESTYLES they live after they do get the funding! It's scandalous!
---Lin on 9/19/10


Rob,

Looks like they finally letting go of their greedy scams.

Anyway, please block TBN from your television. You don't want that junk in your house. I have lost count on how many false doctrines, and prophecies that have come through from this so called "christian" channel.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/19/10


If you saw that on TBN or any place that is not a very wise thing to do. It takes money to do anything worthwhile. When you go to the bathroom at church, it takes money to buy that soft tissue you are using in that bathroom. Money truly makes the world go around.
---Robyn on 9/19/10


Take your eyes off of money, and put Jesus and his righteousness first.
---Eloy on 9/19/10


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Cluny....LOL
---KarenD on 9/18/10

I'll 2nd that!

I'll have to remember this blog question the next time that I get a TBN fundraising letter. I've never seen TBN, or another other Radio/TV ministry, NOT ask for money.

My experience is that if TBN can't get enough Radio/TV donations, they turn to the U.S. mail route. If that doesn't work, you can expect "just a few" email requests. Often, the only way to STOP the TBN requests is to "make a donation" to TBN.

Similar fundraising tactics by almost every other ministry out there.
---Augie on 9/19/10


Maybe they should have been doing this practice all along, periodically!
---Lin on 9/18/10


Cluny....LOL
---KarenD on 9/18/10


Good for them.

But why are you watching TBN to start with?
---Cluny on 9/18/10


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