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Bishop Eddie Long Sex Scandle

"Two Georgia men have filed suit claiming that prominent Atlanta pastor Eddie Long coerced them into mature acts. Source CNN" How are priests and bishops able to do these types of things and their congregations not take notice?

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David, If Eddie Long professes to be a sinner, rather than a saint, then you're right there should be no surprise if he is guilty.
---Eloy on 10/4/10


Strongax, blasphemy is blasphemy, it is sin: and all unrepented sin, no matter what it is, will prohibit the guilty from entrance into holy heaven.
---Eloy on 10/4/10


David, you and Eloy claim to be sinless, and so you gave me a passage that you interpret to be correct when you said,
"(1 John 3:10)
"Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother"

You are not doing right David, you oppose a brother who claims as you to sinless, one of you is not doing right, which one? You are him? by your definition you are him sinning by not loving your brother.
---MarkV. on 10/4/10


David, the accusations of the accusers have not been proven yet in court.
---Eloy on 10/3/10

Eloy
That was not my intension.
My point is that most all Teachers in the Church, claim to be sinners.

God's teachers are not sinners, they have died to sin, sin no longer lives in them.
A teacher is one who God has Sanctified and Justified.

To follow a teacher who is still in sin is much like going to a marriage counselor who is going through a divorce.
If all teachers disclosed their sins to those they teach, the student would not follow them.

Would you follow a Liar, an adulter, a thief, or a murder?
If your teacher is a sinner, their sin is probably one of the above.




---David on 10/4/10


Eloy:

In another blog, you said: Strongax, Every tongue opposing me in judgment will be condemned. This is my heritage, the servant of Yhwh, and my righteousness from Yhwh.

Jesus said in Luke 12:10 (also Matthew 12:32)
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

If speaking against Eloy is a more severe sin than speaking against Jesus, you are placing yourself in a position ABOVE THAT OF JESUS HIMSELF. Does anyone else here hear any red alarm bells going off?

(And I am not speaking against you. I don't need to. Your own words can do that all on their own.)
---StrongAxe on 10/4/10




Eloy:

You said: Now if righteous and holy God would ever tell me to kill someone, as he did tell Abraham to sacrifice up his only son to God, I would obey the Almighty:

God is not the author of confusion. He does NOT command us never to do certain things - and then later command us to violate his law. If God commanded you to commit adultery or perjury or theft, would you also do those things without hesitation? If I heard an inner voice telling me to do any of these things, I would not assume that it was God telling me to do them, but rather somebody very different!

(Also, even though God did tell Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac, he did NOT require him to carry it out)
---StrongAxe on 10/4/10


Thomas, filing a suit is not indicative of guilt. Note how dissers on this site bear false witness against me and my Christ, their vain tongues will go down with them to their own place separated from the righteousness and glory of my God.
---Eloy on 10/3/10


David, the accusations of the accusers have not been proven yet in court, and the law declares that a man and a woman and a child are "innocent until proven guilty" in a court of law.
---Eloy on 10/3/10


Cluny:

Oops, sorry! That last message was supposed to be addressed to Eloy:

David:

There is a difference between someone being a sinner and acknowledge that sin (as a bad thing), than somebody being a sinner and acknowledging that sing and continuing in that sin as if there's nothing wrong with it.
---StrongAxe on 10/3/10


\\Cluny:

You said that Pastor Long has the right to use "Peter liberties" against his accusers, and you defined this term as the right to fight back in defense against the world, and speak as if this is a good thing.\\

Acdtually, this was the sinner Eloy who said this.

As I've frequently said, which of us is NOT a sinner?
---Cluny on 10/3/10




You would be surprised what minister's,pastor's and such have got away with and still carry on pastoring?

Have no fear, wait till they stand before God.no need to ponder!!!!

This is just another story waiting to grow cold if it does before another one comes up!!!!
---Carla on 10/3/10


Personally don't understand the shock of all this.
Most all preachers confess to their congregations that they are sinners, and then, when their sin is revealed, their congregation goes into shock.

When a man says that he is a sinner, doesn't that mean that he commits sin?
If Eddie revealed that he was a liar, would people follow him?
If Eddie revealed that he was a murderer, would people follow him?
If Eddie revealed that he was a thief, would people follow him?
If Eddie revealed that he was an adulter, would people follow him?

If you follow an admitted sinner, why are you suprised when you find out that they sin?
---David on 10/2/10


Cluny:

You said that Pastor Long has the right to use "Peter liberties" against his accusers, and you defined this term as the right to fight back in defense against the world, and speak as if this is a good thing.

Peter was a man of great zeal. On several occasions, he acted on this zeal, and Jesus had to rebuke him for it. One time was when he told Jesus he didn't need to die, and Jesus said "Get thee behind me, Satan!". Another time was when he STILL didn't get the point that Jesus had to die, and tried to stop his arrest by chopping off a man's ear - and Jesus had to rebuke him and heal the ear. Far from being good things, "Peter liberties" were errors caused by unthinking zeal without discernment.
---StrongAxe on 10/2/10


Cluny, Peter was not living with a sword, and the Apostles were not bloodly men. Peter used a sword to defend the Lord Jesus, and fighting the good fight, which I coin the "Peter liberties", is righteous and commanded by God, why do you think God has prepared angels bearing swords? why do you think man has armies, and policemen? why do you think God created courts of laws, and sentences of punishment and prisons? "Peter, put up your sword again into its sheath, so I can fulfill my will." Sinner, understand THIS part of scripture. If Peter and the disciples would have slaughtered the enemies to save Jesus, then Jesus would not be able to fulfill his mission to be scapegoated for his people.
---Eloy on 10/2/10


I obey God daily. Now if righteous and holy God would ever tell me to kill someone, as he did tell Abraham to sacrifice up his only son to God, I would obey the Almighty: for God is worthy to be obeyed and obedience to God is the mark of righteousness. And notice how that when Abraham obeyed God, God then presented Abraham with a goat to kill in the place of his son.
---Eloy on 10/2/10


\\Christ said that if Peter and his diciples fought there to stop Christ from being arrested, then Christ would not accomplish his mission which was to be arrested by sinners and killed by them on the cross.\\

Eloy, what part of "Those who take up the sword shall die by the sword. Put it away" do you not understand?

Peter was NOT trying to defend himself, so what you call "Peter freedom" to defend oneself is bad exegesis.

But it is too apt, because that's what all these allegations are about, anyway.

You only reject what I say because there is no light in you, Eloy.
---Cluny on 10/1/10


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Rita in on point about discernment, but to quote scripture "nobody knows the heart of the man but the spirit of the man", God has given us that priviledge though it works in parallel with his promise that our "sins will find us".

Thank God for his mercy. Remember, if the Lord lifted the veil on all the sexual chicanery our "thoughts of the heart" would be exposed and are on equal footing with HIM if not the world.

Brother Thomas, there is a pretty good chance that someone in a congregation that large probably knew what was going on.
---larry on 10/1/10


Some folk follow ed long just for the "name", and "fame", Some, which a lot in the church dont have or pray for is the discerning of spirits, its a must in this day and age and some just have itching ears and will settle for those who live like they do, in "secret sin" so they think. It is a shame that no one out of 28,000 recognized something was wrong with this man! Who apparently is not in the least concerned about their souls! But remember this, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap!! Now how many realize that nothing gets pass God-if we miss anything, rest assure God does not and trust me, He's not winking at sin from either you or me-God Bless
---Rita on 10/1/10


Cluny, you are wrong. My words are always very very very very very good. But your blaphemy and dissing of them is bad. Christ said that if Peter and his diciples fought there to stop Christ from being arrested, then Christ would not accomplish his mission which was to be arrested by sinners and killed by them on the cross. Sinner, you try again, and try to accept truth.
---Eloy on 10/1/10


Zedex, yes, it seems these men who were blessed monetarily by the pastor are discontent and want to take spoil of the pastor. If the pastor is innocent, I hope he recovers from their offense. I see the end near approaching for all sinners on this world, people better be getting right with God for there is great wrath coming to the ungodly and I do not see any being spared, only great devastation from the four corners of the earth and none are able to stand against the Judgment and hot indignation of God. It comes from above and from beneath, and all things are afire, even the air cannot be breathed. But I see the righteous in glory, not one of us are burned in the fire, and all things are purged, and sin will not rise up a second time.
---Eloy on 10/1/10


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I think Eddie Long is a false prophet. If is truth what he did to those poor boys he is a evil man.
---Eddie on 10/1/10


\\well now go on ...give us that accounting Cluny and I'll see if it meshes up with the others

oh gosh darn it ...why is it youdidn't ask the others for their accounting\\

Rhonda, you are the one who made the accusation.

Therefore YOU are the one who must support it.

Remember, we will all--even you--have to account for every idle word we say at the Last Judgment, according to Jesus.

Finally, Roman Catholic and Orthodox are NOT the same things, and haven't been since the pope and those with him fell away from Orthodoxy.
---Cluny on 10/1/10


The congregations don't know what to do because they haven't been taught the true word of God. But here is the pastors ,bishops and everybody's punishment.
(Gal 5:19-21 [NET])
Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, depravity,
idolatry, sorcery, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish rivalries, dissensions, factions,
envying, murder, drunkenness, carousing, and similar things. I am warning you, as I had warned you before: Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God!
---Royll on 9/30/10


Rhonda, tell us everything you actually know about this church--not what you guess from afar--and its ministries and budget, and what you think it should be doing instead.
*****

well now Cluny you seem to have an edge on this one ...and I thought you were an rcc remnant - the "orthodox branch" rah rah brand or some such thing

well now go on ...give us that accounting Cluny and I'll see if it meshes up with the others

oh gosh darn it ...why is it youdidn't ask the others for their accounting

Cluny your angry man syndrome is a heartache it's a shame you have been beaten down by it
---Rhonda on 9/30/10


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Someone said, "Christian kindnesses are not always positively received. It sounds like, "give them an inch, and they will take a yard from you"

Cluny said, "** the pastor has the full right to use the Peter liberties**Isn't that exactly what this scandal is about, Eloy?"

[ROTFL] Cluny, you are being too cute.
---ZedEx on 9/30/10


I can't find anywhere on the net when, where & by whom Eddie Long was ordained a bishop. Does anyone here know?
---Leon on 9/30/10


\\Cluny, I apologize for implementing my own new words without giving the definition. "Peter liberties" is a phrase I coin to define the Christian's freedom and right to fight back in defense against the worldly, as found in Luke 22:49-51+ John 18:10,11.\\

Very bad exegesis, Eloy.

Christ told St. Peter he did NOT have the right to use violence.

Try again.
---Cluny on 9/30/10


Cluny, I apologize for implementing my own new words without giving the definition. "Peter liberties" is a phrase I coin to define the Christian's freedom and right to fight back in defense against the worldly, as found in Luke 22:49-51+ John 18:10,11.
---Eloy on 9/30/10


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\\why when this man has a congregation in the thousands does he not have ministries established to assist those in need?\\

Rhonda, tell us everything you actually know about this church--not what you guess from afar--and its ministries and budget, and what you think it should be doing instead.

** the pastor has the full right to use the Peter liberties**

Isn't that exactly what this scandal is about, Eloy?
---Cluny on 9/29/10


\\it doesn't take a spiritual person to see him for a LYING CON MAN\\

It's amazing that you are so spiritual you can see into his heart from that distance, Rhonda.

How do you bear such a burden?
---Cluny on 9/29/10


Christian kindnesses are not always positively received. It sounds like, "give them an inch, and they will take a yard from you."
****

this can happen yet most people are good and do not continue to take more than what is necessary

however when "christian kindness" is extended by the leader of a church then the real question should by WHY

why when this man has a congregation in the thousands does he not have ministries established to assist those in need?

when a leader steps in and gives I say WHY must he flaunt his financial power ...money talks and money buys lavish gifts and those in positions of power OFTEN do so because they expect something in return
---Rhonda on 9/29/10


\\The courts may decide if there was any impropriety against the minors, and if there was found to be none then the pastor has the full right to use the Peter liberties and sue his accusers back for slander, defamation of character, and all monetary damages.\\

Actually, these men were above the age of consent at the time the sexual acts allegedly took place.

And I don't know what "Peter liberties" are? Could this be a Freudian slip?
---Cluny on 9/29/10


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\\The courts may decide if there was any impropriety against the minors, and if there was found to be none then the pastor has the full right to use the Peter liberties and sue his accusers back for slander, defamation of character, and all monetary damages.\\

Actually, these men were above the age of consent at the time the sexual acts allegedly took place.

And I don't know what "Peter liberties" are? Could this be a Freudian slip?
---Cluny on 9/29/10


Eloy:

It's true that anyone (including a pastor) can do whatever he wants with his money, and give it to whomever he pleases. But if a rich pastor decided to buy a condominium and a new car for a young single woman in his congregation, how many of his flock would approve, and how many would suspect that he was having an affair with her? And if you turned it around and looked at all the pastors who purchase lavish gifts for people who are neither relatives nor long-time close personal friends - what percentage of those gifts are totally innocent, as opposed to being gifts to mistresses, bribes to cover up affairs, etc.?

(I'm also not sure what you mean by "Peter liberties" - could you please elaborate?)
---StrongAxe on 9/29/10


Strongax, If a rich adult pastor wants to lavish some of their own riches upon poor teenagers, that is no crime, and the teenagers should be grateful for that grace, but as we genuine evangelists know all to well, by our beatings and bad-mouthings, our Christian kindnesses are not always positively received. It sounds like, "give them an inch, and they will take a yard from you." The courts may decide if there was any impropriety against the minors, and if there was found to be none then the pastor has the full right to use the Peter liberties and sue his accusers back for slander, defamation of character, and all monetary damages.
---Eloy on 9/29/10


false ministers are able to do these things and NOT have their congregation notice because their congregation is TOO BUSY IDOLIZING this mortal man called Eddie

it doesn't take a spiritual person to see him for a LYING CON MAN ...seeing he addressed his so called congregation telling them they would BEAT THIS ...as if it were a cancer or political race

if this false minister Eddie was truly a MAN OF GOD he would be praying for AND asking his congregation to pray for these men who made these accusations

instead he is so self-deluded he talks about beating it because these men were used and dismissed and mean nothing to him anymore ...he expects his power and influence will save him from the laws of the land
---Rhonda on 9/28/10


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Because the devil has always been very subtle. These are the last days and the bible clearly states that even the very elect of God's people will be fooled. But then there is another nation that God is pouring out His spirit on that will not be moved.
---janice on 9/28/10


Eloy:

I totally agree with you that people don't tend to sue if there's nothing to be gained. And I also agree that sometimes when there is a lot of money (or power) at stake, sometimes people will fabricate salacious lies just to "get a piece of the pie".

However, it should be easy to verify whether or not he bought them cars and trips out of the country. If he DID do this, whether or not any kind of gross misconduct did or did not occur, wouldn't you agree that an adult pastor buying free cars and trips to other countries for 16-year-olds who are not related to him are a least deeply suspicious?
---StrongAxe on 9/28/10


I've said it here before about other "ministries" and I'll say it again.

I just spent the last 1/2 hr looking around his website and cannot find anything that remotely resembles a statement of faith or even how to be saved.

Lots about personalities, programs and statistics. Plenty of opportunity to contribute or buy stuff, but nothing about core beliefs.

I thought, what if I look at this site as a person who is attracted to what is going on there and wanted to know how to be saved. Nothing.

Aside from any allegations or scandal, for me this is a red flag.
---Bruce5656 on 9/27/10


Strongax, The poster is saying that the men filed a suit alleging that the pastor coerced them into mature acts, this sounds like some type of adult or sexual inuendo is implied. Therefore, since we can assume that the pastor has large monies to purchase large things for the men, then it would stand to reason that the men may be sueing the pastor in order to take his money by bearing false witness against him. I am saying if pastor Eddie was poor or was not a Christian pastor, would the men still be sueing Eddie? If so, then their claims of mature coercion by the pastor may be true: and if not, then their complaint would likely be meritless.
---Eloy on 9/27/10


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Augie you wrote,"I once thought that: Church officials, Christians that are regular church goers, Government politicians, People who care for young children, etc. were "responsible" folks. Well, I was wrong to the Nth degree. Shame on ME for being so naive!"

And I appreciate your honesty. As time passes many people become very distrustful of all those who toot their own horn concerning being righteous.

---mima on 9/27/10


This should not surprise anyone.

Eddie L. Long is one of the FALSE TEACHERS of the WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT, who has so many people BRAINWASHED, but these people don't know it.

They tell those people who follow them and their FALSE TEACHINGS "TOUCH NOT AND SPEAK NOT AGAINST GOD'S ANOINTED".
---Rob on 9/21/10

so brainwashed in fact that they actually believe these man are gods.

Let's not forget those in HIGH PLACES who first denied:

Jim Bakker
Jimmy Swaggart
Ted Haggard
Bill Clinton
Earl Paulk

ALL said "Persecution"!!!

Lawyers don't filing frivolous suits that would get them disbarred. They have MORE than hearsay!

LOOK how many more are coming forward!
---kathr4453 on 9/27/10


Eloy:

Whether or not he bought them cars or took them on trips on the church's dime is something that will be VERY easy to verify (or refute) from the church's own records (and also credit card records, vehicle title registrations, airline reservations, etc.) without any reliance on personal hearsay.

As such, this won't boiled down to an unsubstantiated case of "he said/he said", but there should be acual verifiable evidence to support one side or the other.
---StrongAxe on 9/27/10


Strongax, you're right, that is my point. Eddie Long does have a lot of money, and this may be the motivating factor for why the men are suiing him, rather than their claims of Eddie coercing them into mature acts, especially when it is well known that there are people today whom want something for nothing and will bear false witness in order to extort it. You see if Eddie Long was poor and had no ministry, then would the men still sue? If so, then their claims would have more weight in being true, but if Eddie was poor and had no ministry and the men would not sue him, then their claims would be manifested to more likely of vanity.
---Eloy on 9/26/10


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\\like criminals...they are also NOT GUILTY until proven guilty...KEEP THEM ALL IN PRAYER
---T_Harold on 9/26/10\\

Would you say the same thing about a Catholic priest facing similar allegations?
---Cluny on 9/26/10


Eloy:

If he had no money and no ministry, he wouldn't have been in a position to buy anyone cars or take them on trips around the world either.
---StrongAxe on 9/26/10


Robyn:

I didn't say that there was something wrong with a megachurch per se - just that the leader of such a church isn't a "pastor" as such, because, unlike Jesus's model shepherd who knows each of his sheep by name and knows where every single one of them is, leaders of such megachurches have so many sheep they can't possibly know most of them personally, let alone be aware of where they are in their lives. They must have subordinates to do that. THOSE subordinates might take on the role of pastors, but not the top leaders themselves.
---StrongAxe on 9/26/10


Truly, in my heart I believe that this happens within church circles (especially in Atlanta) very often. Members know within but remain in denial until something like this happens. I would hear rumors that Bishop Long was (sweet) years ago. No one cared to think about it back then.
---tameka on 9/26/10


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like criminals...they are also NOT GUILTY until proven guilty...KEEP THEM ALL IN PRAYER
---T_Harold on 9/26/10


Filing suit, is not always filing truth. I wonder if Eddie Long had no ministry or no money, would georgia men then still be filing suit after Eddie Long.
---Eloy on 9/26/10


Well, here is the thing. There is something wrong with the Creflos and the Longs of the mega-churh. When you have people who are in the public eye that are dishonest about what they're doing, then they are no longer leaders. They're misleaders. These leaders of the megachurch preach more on prospering than they do on the word of God. When that happens, when you have to submit your w-2 just do be a member, when you have ATMs inside the church, where then, there's no excuse about you're not paying your ties, then it's time to go. There's another name for these misleaders. We, in Atlanta, call them PIMPS.

Rico,
Atlanta, GA
---Rico_Daniels on 9/26/10


StrongAxe: There is nothing wrong with megachurches. People worship where they want to. Bis Long's church is one of the chosen ones. For one reason or another. When a church draws a huge attendance, it probably needs to do a split. It can be a task trying to meet all of your congregants. What is he(Long) to do? Turn them away? Some people attend churches for different reasons. Not all of them for the right reasons. Being a preacher is a huge responsibility. Brings a lot of pride,arrogance,temptations. A minister has to really be prayed up and on que with God. He can stumble and fall. The devil is especially fond of bringing God's servants down. Preachers beware!
---Robyn on 9/25/10


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The rise of modern mega-churches is a direct result of people wanting to be entertained at church (itself the result of the "children's church" movement with puppet shows and the like) and wanting their ears tickled.

A single congregation of 25,000 people needs to be split WAY before it got that big.

In my home town, when we started our small Orthodox church, we felt from the beginning that when it got to a certain size, it was time to think about splitting.

In about 20 years, this happened--but the new parish was started in another city and county!
---Cluny on 9/25/10


Robyn:

If a pastor can't individually name his congregants, and can't deal with them personally, he isn't worthy of the title "pastor", which means "shepherd". Look at how Jesus described the relationship between a shepherd and his sheep.
---StrongAxe on 9/24/10


I have never listened to Bishop Eddie Long's teachings, but I want to say I am SHOCKED if these alligations prove to be true.

WHERE is the fear of God in men's hearts these days?

WHY would he ruin his marriage, his anointing and his congregation (letting them down) like that?

I just don't understand it.
---Donna5535 on 9/22/10

Donna i have listened to him before and turned him off, i discerned a very prideful,arrogant man full of himself, God tells us to try the Spirits he will get his just due one way or the other , its all about Power and the love of money
---Lea on 9/24/10


Bishops, pastors, preachers have a full entourage(body guards) around them these days. It is hard to get close to them. You go to church leave and never get close to the preachers, now days. Especially in the mega churches.The unsuspecting congregation don't know what is going on,either. Bish Long's church is reported to have over 25000 congregants(wow) That is a lot of members! He probably does not know them all himself. If you are not an insider, all type things can happen. The average church goer knows nothing. My church is much smaller and I don't know all of what goes on there. My church has a roll(membership) of over 400. I only learn of things after they have happened, if ever.
---Robyn on 9/24/10


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It's about time these predators stop their games.
---Choir_Boy on 9/24/10


\\Many, many times I have shared what is written in Romas 1:18-32. Maybe now, people will read it and believe what is written in this passage of scripture.
---Rob on 9/23/10\\

Chapter and verse divisions were not in the original. Therefore Romans 1:18-32 cannot be understood without looking at Roman 2:1, which says, "You who judge practice the same things!"
---Cluny on 9/24/10


Many, many times I have shared what is written in Romas 1:18-32. Maybe now, people will read it and believe what is written in this passage of scripture.
---Rob on 9/23/10


In that Pastor Long has been slow in proclaiming his absolute innocence & to staunchly deny the allegations before Holy God raises suspicion in the situation. As the saying goes, "Power corrupts & absolute power [unaccountability] corrupts absolutely." IF the allegations are true, this pastor obviously won't be the first to get so full of himself (pridefully deceived by the devil) that he thought he was above the laws of man & God. (Gal. 6:7-9)
---Leon on 9/23/10


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Why are people on these blogs to quick to defend a Protestant minister accused of sexual improprieties, and yet fast to believe similar accusations against Roman Catholic priests?
---Cluny on 9/22/10

The number of abusive Protestant clergy is probably HIGHER than the number of abusive Catholic priests.

Some people have had a "bad" experience in a Catholic church. I've known several folks who attended a Catholic church until they got divorced, and were deeply hurt when they learned that they couldn't get remarried in the Catholic church. I believe that people are created with a "sinful" bent, where being "negative", and "complaining", is "only normal" for them.
---Sag on 9/23/10


"....too many similar accusations in the Catholic church, once one boy started saying he was sexually abused, now there's hundreds of abused men who were boys when sexually molested by a PRIEST -" (anon)

And we get that, and it is sickening. However, many think that ALL Catholic Priests are child molesters and many IGNORE the fact that is happening everywhere (i.e., in hundreds of Protestant churches, search online database) and this is a society problem.

And yet, when we hear about a accusation against a Catholic priest, some are quick to say "He is guilty. Darn Catholics", but that Baptist minister down the street must be Innocent of the same charge! Yea, sounds like a double standard to me.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/23/10


candice:

As the news article said, both young men were above the legal age of consent in their state, so there is no criminal activity alleged here. What is alleged is immoral and reprensible (and also hypocritical, since Long very strongly preached against this very thing), but that's a matter for a civil court (i.e. lawsuit) to decide. And, of course, the inevitable Trial By Media circus. (And judgment by his own peers, should the accusations be found true.)
---StrongAxe on 9/23/10


These are perilous times.

2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
---Rick on 9/23/10


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Judgement begins in the house of God.
---Free_Believer on 9/22/10


\\I think the Pope has a demon, why doesn't he realize people idolize him?\\

I know nobody who idolizes the Pope, and I don't think you do, either.

But I DO think you are committing the ABOMINATION/TOEVAH of a double standard (Proverbs 20:10).

||P.S. 16 may be legal, but what he did is IMMORAL - there's a difference.||

The secular criminal code doesn't prosecute what may be immoral, only what is illegal.
---Cluny on 9/22/10


Why are people on these blogs to quick to defend a Protestant minister accused of sexual improprieties, and yet fast to believe similar accusations against Roman Catholic priests?

---Cluny on 9/22/10

Cluny-because there's too many similar accusations in the Catholic church, once one boy started saying he was sexually abused, now there's hundreds of abused men who were boys when sexually molested by a PRIEST - one we look up to (well you may but I don't look up to a Priest nor the Pope, I think the Pope has a demon, why doesn't he realize people idolize him? and idolatry of antying but God is a sin.

P.S. 16 may be legal, but what he did is IMMORAL - there's a difference.
---anon on 9/22/10


As I posted on the other blog concerning this... donot pay attention to idle gossip. If he did this then the law will take care of him. Unless you know this pastor or attend his congregation & it personally affects you DONOT Pay attention to it because all it does is take your mind off God & you are paying attention to useless things. The devil wants us to take heed of thease gossiping things and fuel the fire even more.So don't. Again if these allegations are true the law will handle him.
---candice on 9/22/10


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Why are people on these blogs to quick to defend a Protestant minister accused of sexual improprieties, and yet fast to believe similar accusations against Roman Catholic priests?

In either case, let the secular arm handle the investigation.

BTW--the age of consent in Georgia is 16, so it's unlikely that he committed a crime under Georgia law.
---Cluny on 9/22/10


Brothers and sisters, please let us be slow to speak and slow to anger concerning B. Eddie (James 1: 19). Lets wait until the outcome of the investigation so that we all can know the truth. Even if its true its not a thing of joy to us (love rejoices not in iniquity but in truth 1 Corinthians 13: 6). Spiritual warfare is real therefore we need to pray for one another. Ephesian 6: 18-19). In the military every soldier look out for the other to ensure that they win. We are enlisted in the army of the Lord. Let us look out for one another. God bless
---Jonathan on 9/22/10


Because their congrgation feels they can do not wrong. We tend to be in disbelief when it's a community leader, a church leader, etc. The truth is those so called leaders have issues too. No one ever thinks abt the victims in these situations. this type of stuff just doesn't fall out of the sky if it were totally untrue. It's sad that we the people put these preachers so high, higher than GOD himself, just as long as they are progressive,growing the church and making money. We forget abt why we call them leaders. They are to be able to resist those devil temptations, corruption, and abuse.
---cutter on 9/22/10


I have never listened to Bishop Eddie Long's teachings, but I want to say I am SHOCKED if these alligations prove to be true.

WHERE is the fear of God in men's hearts these days?

WHY would he ruin his marriage, his anointing and his congregation (letting them down) like that?

I just don't understand it.
---Donna5535 on 9/22/10


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No doubt that b. E. Long said to his followers, ( a quote from Flip Wilson, the devil made me do it. )
---Lawrence on 9/22/10


They tell those people who follow them and their FALSE TEACHINGS "TOUCH NOT AND SPEAK NOT AGAINST GOD'S ANOINTED".
---Rob on 9/21/10

I have noticed this "prideful thinking", or whatever, among many church leaders/teachers. Some denominations: Catholic, Assemblies Of God, Independent, etc.

Whatever the church denomination, or group, I believe that GOD deplores this type of "thinking".

Proverbs 16:18 "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall".

I don't find it surprising that this Preacher/Teacher wound up in trouble. He should have read his Bible and followed it more closely. The same could be said for ALL of us. Including myself. Be on guard!
---Sag on 9/21/10


This should not surprise anyone.

Eddie L. Long is one of the FALSE TEACHERS of the WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT, who has so many people BRAINWASHED, but these people don't know it.

They tell those people who follow them and their FALSE TEACHINGS "TOUCH NOT AND SPEAK NOT AGAINST GOD'S ANOINTED".
---Rob on 9/21/10


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