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According to a news report a wind parted the red sea which they claim is only six feet deep? Is this Biblical?

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strongax, you mock and remain separated, for dissers flock with dissers, and christians with christians. Jesus says, "Remember the word that I said to you, If they have have kept my saying, they will keep your's also. Enough that the disciple the person be as one's Master, and the servant as one's Lord. He that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God. As in Noah's day, in the latter days will come mockers, and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away, so will also the coming of the Son of man be. For the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them."
---Eloy on 10/19/10


Cluny, you should listen because I preach the truth and have the words of eternal life. But since you are so preoccupied with dissing my words which manifests that you do not really care to know the truth, then you should cease asking of me. I am born-again from Christ and have been translating the Holy Scriptures from their original tongues for over 15 years. Jesus says: "If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household? Remember the word that I said to you, If they have have kept my saying, they will keep your's also. He that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God."
---Eloy on 10/19/10


Eloy:

We have nothing against scriptures, or gospel, or anything Jesus taught. However, we do not accept your strange translations and theories (Enoch wrote the Pentateuch, Eloi means light, sinuous is the opposite of righteous etc.) that only you believe, and which go against 2000 years of established Christian scholarship.

I have repeatedly asked you to provide any other evidence of any of these theories (since the Bible says truth is established by 2-3 witnesses), but rather than doing so, you just accuse me of blasphemy against you and God.

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of witnesses that all agree on what those words mean, and only you who disagree. According to the Bible's own standards, they must be right.
---StrongAxe on 10/19/10


2Cor 11:12-15 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion, that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.
---micha9344 on 10/19/10


Strongax, I already laid out the hebrew etymology of "sinuous", which is derived from the word "sin", and it's first use in print before latin even existed, and scripture clearly defines it's meaning as a "doer of sin". "Sinuousness" is the accurate translation of "anomian" in Mt.7:23, because it more accurately corresponds to the context in verse 21 which defines a person not obeying the Commandments: whereas "iniquity" often implies uncleanness, rather than disobedience to the commandment.
---Eloy on 10/19/10




Why should we listen to you, Eloy?

You are a disser with no light in you.
---Cluny on 10/19/10


Eloy, I have heard those words before from you, because it upsets you some of us disagree with your teachings. They are none biblical. No by nature righteous people. They are all born sinful. And no second rebirth. One time only. Oh you can go forward as many times as you like and confess Him as Lord, but there is only one rebirth. Not many. So you see you are wrong. I do say "yes" when you are right. And I say "no' when you are wrong. I believe you are dissing us. I don't diss the light, because you are not the light. You are a tiny little piece of clay just like me.
---MarkV. on 10/19/10


MarkV, dissers have said the same things since the beginning that you say today against us saints. I say "Yes", and you say "No", and when I say "No", then you say "Yes", because your nature refuses to accept the words from God that I preach. There is One Truth, The Way of Christ, and this is what I preach, not an interpretation but the truth: but your flesh rebels against this truth because you refuse to accept this One Commandment- Repent from your own sinuous ways and life, and Obey Christ and his righteousness. I shine the light from Christ, and I shine Christ's light in order for the reader to receive it, but as long as you dis the light you cannot receive the light but will remain in your darkness.
---Eloy on 10/19/10


Eloy:

The etymology of a word traces how its form evolved. English sinuous comes from Latin sinuosus from Latin sinus. The spelling of each is closely related to its predecessor.

English sin, while it may have the same meaning as Hebrew chet, is etymologically unrelated. It is not spelled the same, does not sound the same, doesn't even contain any of the same letters at all. Check any dictionary, and none will say sinuous is derived from sin.

A sinuous person is someone who is curved, winding, or bent. This could be a sinner, but it could also be someone with a spinal deformity, or a circus contortionist. The word does not primarily refer to sin.
---StrongAxe on 10/19/10


Eloy, it is true what you said when you said,
"Thomas, A preacher once said, that if one does not stand for something, then they will fall for everything. We have the proven worthy published truth," we do have it Eloy, it is your translation of the Truth that is wrong. You are stuck in reverse and need to go forward with the Truth. It is there written in front of you. Such a God cannot be found out by searching. He can be known only as He is revealed to the heart by the Holy Spirit through His Word. And God has yet to reveal the Truth so that you can know it. You know what you know from your own wisdom. For there is no second rebirth. No by nature righteous people.
---MarkV. on 10/19/10




strongax, know you not that "iniquity" is "sin"? "iniquity" comes from the prefix in-, un- + equal, thus, "iniquity" means "unequalness", unjust, sinuous, crooked, wrong. The Greek word in Mt.7,23 is "anomian" (ie: prefeix a-, without + nomian, law): etymologically "anomian" is without law, lawlessness, law-breaker, not law-abiding, nonkeeper of the commandments, disobedient, wrong-doer, and thus is rightly translated, "sinuousness" or as the early translaters have published, "iniquity".
---Eloy on 10/18/10


"sinuous" comes from "sin" which is not a latin root, but sin comes from the hebrew root "chet", first found in Genesis 4:7, meaning "crime", "offense", "guilt". So a person who is sinuous, is a person who does sin.
---Eloy on 10/18/10


Thomas, A preacher once said, that if one does not stand for something, then they will fall for everything. We have the proven worthy published truth, which has been blasphemed by sinuous people since the beginning. But all the blasphemy in the world cannot change one historical, documented, and eye-witnessed Biblical account. Dissers may say the truth I preach is inappropriate to them, but that is because they have chosen for themself to reject the Truth and remain unregenerate in worldly deceptions.
---Eloy on 10/18/10


According to a news report a wind parted the red sea which they claim is only six feet deep? Is this Biblical?

Was that FOX NEWS?
I would not be suprised if that was FOX NEWS, they are really into making up stuff.
---francis on 10/18/10


Eloy:

Matthew 7:22-23 uses 'iniquity' NOT 'sinouousness'. The Greek word is 'anomia' (lawlessness), from 'nomos' (law). This has to do with lawbreaking, NOT curved or twisted or winding.

While your definition of 'sinuous' may be correct, your use of it in translation is not. Also, your derivation is incorrect. It is derived from Latin 'sinus' (winding), NOT from English 'sin'.

I have only found one source online where anyone uses 'sinuous' as an opposite of 'righteous' - your posts on these blogs from 2007-2010, where many other people continuously pointed out the inappropriateness of the use of this word in this context.
---StrongAxe on 10/18/10


Cluny, I mean exactly what I posted, for the opposite of righteous is sinuous. "righteous" comes from "right", and "sinuous" comes from "sin". "Not all they that say to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven. And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me all you that work sinuousness." Sinuous means, crooked, devious, serpentine, not straight, not right, wrong. The opposite of righteousness is sinuousness. You can find this word with the definition in many dictionaries, and online at www dot yourdictionary dot com forward-slash sinuous
---Eloy on 10/18/10


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\\Eloy:

You said: for the righteous are righteous, and the sinuous are sinuous

I'm not sure you undertand what sinuous means. It means winding or bending many times (much like a river). It comes from the Latin sinuosus (winding), from sinus (a curve). Related English words are sine, sinusoidal, etc. It has nothing at all to do with sin.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/10\\

"Sinuous" was not coined on analogy with "righteous".

He has shown at other times that either he does not know the meaning of English words, or has set himself up like another Humpty-Dumpty to give words bizarre meanings, or else to coin meaningless phrases like "peter freedom."
---Cluny on 10/17/10


\\MarkV, And it never will: for the righteous are righteous, and the sinuous are sinuous: and each is known by their fruit.\\

I think the word you're looking for is "sinful," not "sinuous".
---Cluny on 10/17/10


Eloy:

You said: for the righteous are righteous, and the sinuous are sinuous

I'm not sure you undertand what sinuous means. It means winding or bending many times (much like a river). It comes from the Latin sinuosus (winding), from sinus (a curve). Related English words are sine, sinusoidal, etc. It has nothing at all to do with sin.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/10


Eloy, that is why I know you, by your fruit. The reason I would hope that God changed that fruit to good fruit.
---Mark_V. on 10/17/10


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MarkV, And it never will: for the righteous are righteous, and the sinuous are sinuous: and each is known by their fruit.
---Eloy on 10/17/10


Eloy, I know you cannot. It has not happen yet. But I believe in you, not much of what you teach, but in you. You have a lot of Scripture knowledge, but have it kind turned around and if you could put it in order you would do great. I also never doubted your faith. I doubt many's faith, but it is only my opinion, I cannot tell a persons heart like you can, even the evidence is not all that great. You say you will know them by their fruits. When the word "you" is said, it depends who the "you" is. For many "You's" out there are not even save.
---Mark_V. on 10/16/10


MarkV, You are right in that I cannot change, for God dwells in me and his Spirit will never change.
---Eloy on 10/16/10


Its not human nature to be sinful a child will grow up the way a society raises it. Pple need to stop saying thats how Humans are becauase if u want a change u got to start with yourself! The government and society destroys families and morals parents cant be parents now a days. Just like drug dealers! if the government didnt ship in drugs their would be no drugs to sell!
---Pharaoh_amenhotep on 10/15/10


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\\There was no moses. There is not one account of moses in egypt.\\

Except for the fact that the very name "Moses" is Egyptian, meaning "son", as in such names as Tothmoses, Ramesses, and the like.
---Cluny on 10/15/10


There was no moses. There is not one account of moses in egypt. The bible doesnt even give a name of the pharoh who had the so called hebrews captive. They say ramses but they just gave any old name! The bible doesnt say ramses though it just says pharoh! Pharoh who!!?? That wasnt even ramses real name. The roman empire are liars!!!
---Pharoh_amenhotep on 10/15/10


Eloy, you just cannot change. It is your nature to condemn and no matter how much anyone wants to change you, only God can change you. Your righteous judgment is self-righteous judgment. And it is so much a part of your life that you are not willing to give it up. I pray for God to change you one day. This time for a real change, with humility and love for those around you.
---MarkV. on 10/15/10


MarkV, I always answer with righteous judgment, inspite of any adulation or of any dissing: those worthy of condemnation are condemned, and those worthy of honor are honored.
---Eloy on 10/15/10


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Thomas, it was no news report, but a lie report.
---Eloy on 10/15/10


Eloy, that is the way to answer a question. It does not need condemnation to go with it. I know many would like to hear your view on Scripture but your witness goes out the door when you answer with condemnations, and with the suggestion that you are holy god. I know you can do it. It is a matter of you wanting to do the right thing.
---MarkV. on 10/15/10


Strongax, Give No creedance to lie. Yes, liars have originally stated 6 inches of standing Reed water, rather than the Red Sea. Also, a sea is more than 6 foot: "And the waters to them a wall, from their right and from their left. And pursued the Egyptians, all the horses of Pharaoh, his chariots and his horsemen, into the middle of the sea. And returned the waters and covered the chariots and the horsemen together with all the army of Pharaoh, those going after them into the sea, and was not left among them even one. The depths covered them, they have sank into the bottom like a stone. You blew with your wind, the sea covered them: they sank like lead in the mighty waters." Ex.14:22,23,28+ 15:5,10.
---Eloy on 10/15/10


JackB thank you,it is kind of you to say so. Yes she did ignore it and that is very sad. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/14/10


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Wonderful application of scripture, Darlene.


Too bad she totally ignored it and continues her "godly" charade.
---JackB on 10/14/10


Eloy:

I did not say the horses could swim with them. Horses alone might, but not with chariot and rider. I've also never heard anyone mentioning 6 inches of water.

I did not say whether they drowned in the Red Sea or Reed Sea. I only said drowning in a shallow sea was plausible (because you said that it would be a major miracle).

If water is fast-moving (which it apparently was, Exodus 14:26-28), one can easily drown in even less. You always hear stories of a few people drowning in floods when rivers overflow. A friend and I almost drowned in 3 feet of water once when we fell out of a raft in a Class 5 rapid, even when we were wearing life vests.
---StrongAxe on 10/14/10


I have heard of just about every lie from sinners who try to change the historical facts and truth eye-witnessed and recorded by both beleivers and nonbelievers in the Holy Bible: I heard them all from evolution to a big bang to the nondrowning in 6 inches of water to Jesus swooning and not dying. It does not matter what lies sinners make up because they are not a part of the Truth but will remain outside of the Kingdom of God where every falsehood and evil exists, and if they repent not they will remain in God's wrath and will be thrown into the leverlasting ake of fire and brimstone where their torments will ascend up for ever.
---Eloy on 10/14/10


Strongax, Wow! and the horses could swim with them? if the lie was true, then as I said before this lie would be a greater miracle then the historical truth recorded in the Holy Bible.
---Eloy on 10/14/10


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catherine:

Jesus said to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". (Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31).

If you chortle with glee with the thought of certain people going to hell, this means that you wish them to go there. If you are following what Jesus taught, this means that you also should want everyone else to hope that YOU are going to hell as well - and I hope you don't want that.

Jesus said "God is love" (1 John 4:8), not "God is sadism".
---StrongAxe on 10/14/10


Well, I am glad that there is a hell. Sinners will not go unpunished. And my God knows me and my heart. I am okay. You are not, because, if God took your breath away from you at this moment to HELL you would go. Ha, heeeeee. Hallelujah, thank You Jesus++
---catherine on 10/13/10


Eloy:

An army of men wearing nothing but clothing, could probably swim in 6 feet of water and many might survive if they didn't have to stay there for a long period of time. But with Egypt being a desert, it's likely many couldn't swim. Plus, while an unencumbered man might float, one wearing armor most likely couldn't. Similarly, armored horses carrying riders and provisions would very likely also drown. If you add the panic factor of this hitting unexpectedly, it's quite plausible that an entire army could easily drown in just 6 feet of water.

The Bible doesn't mention how deep the water was. It doesn't have to, since it doesn't matter. Whether Pharoah and his army were drowned in 6 feet of water or 60 or 600, they still drowned.
---StrongAxe on 10/13/10


Catherine I feel if you knew the Bible speaks against being glad when an enemy of God falls then you wouldn't laugh at it. Here is the Bible,Proverbs 24:17 & 18 Rejoice not when your enemy falls and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles:Lest the Lord see it,and it displease him,and he turn away his wrath from him. So please take heed follow this Word of God which plainly tells us we aren't to take pleasure at anothers suffering.
---Darlene_1 on 10/13/10


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No, it's not at all biblical. The Jews made of the O.T. in [250 B.C.] uniformly translates each mention of Red Sea by the Greek expression---THALASSA ERUTHRA. Some critics have sought to identify the Red Sea with a suppose sea of reeds, but this is done in an effort to discount the miracles of God's word, especially, the biblical crossing, of the Red Sea. The Red Sea is mentioned thirteen times in the Pentateuch and 12 times in the O.Testament. Each time the same Hebrew word is used, and there is absolutely no reason to make it refer to any other body of water than the Red Sea [Numbers 21:4]. Well, I believe.
---catherine on 10/13/10


Wow! that would mean that Pharoah's army on horses were drowned in only 6 feet of water, and this lie would be a bigger miracle than the recorded truth that the army of horsemen were drowned in the sea.
---Eloy on 10/13/10


I reject every view of the secular world which tries to undermine the miracle works of God and a Christians faith and belief he is the God of the impossible. Satan attacks through a persons mind to get at their faith in hopes he can steal it away. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God,so that things which are seen are not made of things which do appear. What is true for one thing God did,is true for anything else that God does. In other words God can't be put into a mold fashioned after the secular knowledge of this world because all things God does are supernatural. They are far above the secular worlds ability to comprehend,for only Spiritual can understand the Spiritual things of God.
---Darlene_1 on 10/13/10


It's not my fault, cluny, if you don't know the living God, who lives in me as the result of Him raising me from the dead. I cannot laugh unless God is laughing, the same in grieving. God sits in heaven LAUGHING at His enemies, because, He knows your time in coming....Oh, dear, "their time is coming"....Bite the dust.
---catherine on 10/13/10


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//Wow, the trouble people go through trying to disprove the Bible.
---Reba on 10/12/10//

amen Reba
---michael_e on 10/12/10


If they want to debate the depth of the sea, so be it. But it does take an even bigger miracle to drawn an army & horses in a small amount of water. No matter how you debate it, God was in control of the parting of those waters & the out come of all those involved. God also controls the wind & weather. Wow, the trouble people go through trying to disprove the Bible.
---Reba on 10/12/10


Catherine: I seldom agree with Cluny, but I do in his response to your joy at your fellow man's destruction. God Himself has no joy in the death of the wicked - why should you?

Eze 33:11 ... As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live:
---jerry6593 on 10/3/10


Psalms 2:1-6 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psalms 37:12-13 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth. The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
The wicked not the innocent.
Those that have heard and rejected not those that have yet to hear.
---micha9344 on 9/30/10


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MarkV, that is a very good parallel and sight of a foreshadow.

Catherine //All I know is this>>>God killed the Egyptians// You know more than that. Please get control of your e-tongue. a loose member will only lead to your demise.
---aka on 9/30/10


catherine:

Why are you always chortling with glee when the unrighteous perish?

Matthew 18:14
"Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish."
---StrongAxe on 9/30/10


\\God killed the Egyptians---He, he, he, he. God does GREAT WORK.\\

There's an old Jewish story (midrash) about this.

The angels danced and sang at the drowning of Pharaoh's army. God asked them, "My children are dead at the bottom of the sea. Why are you rejoicing?"

If your heart were right with the true God of the Bible, catherine, you'd not be giggling over this.
---Cluny on 9/30/10


"Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, And the Lord swept the sea back by a strong east wind of which [God created] all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided"...All I know is this>>>God killed the Egyptians---He, he, he, he. God does GREAT WORK.
---catherine on 9/30/10


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\\(For the record, some news reports feel it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea. The Reed Sea is right next to the Red Sea.)\\

It's not a news report.

The present Hebrew actually says, "Yom Suf," which means Reed Sea.
---Cluny on 9/29/10


Does it really matter. The parting of the Red Sea accomplished what God wanted. The Bible doesn't state now deep the Sea was, or how it was parted, which makes me feel it's not that important. (For the record, some news reports feel it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea. The Reed Sea is right next to the Red Sea.)
---wivv on 9/29/10


\\The world is an enemy of God,\\
For God so loved the world....
---Cluny on 9/28/10
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
---micha9344 on 9/28/10


\\The world is an enemy of God,\\

For God so loved the world....
---Cluny on 9/28/10


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The world is an enemy of God, They do anything to disprove his word. Some say the water was shallow when they crossed, if so how did it drown all the hosts of Egypt. So say the wind was blowing strong enough to hold back the waters, if so stand up to cross in such a wind. Some say it was the reed sea, a swampy area north of the red sea, that they crossed, again how did this small amount of water destroy Egypt's army. How God did it is his business. It is good to question but don't look to a lost world for spiritual answers, look to God's word. Where God is silent, then we need to keep our mouth shut and not cause unnecessary problems. i.e. did Adam have a bellybutton.
---Harold on 9/27/10


\\The problem is that many things he says can end up hurting people's faith in Jesus Christ.\\

I have repeatedly said that our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ is God and man in one person, born of a Virgin, risen from the dead, ascended into heaven, and coming again.

Please tell me what in particular I have said that would hurt people's faith in Him.

Yes, I have challenged people's ahistorical certainties and unfounded assumptions. What's wrong with that?
---Cluny on 9/26/10


\\The Exodus across the Red Sea DID occur.\\

Actually, the Hebrew does not say "Red Sea", but "Reed Sea."

The tradition it was the Red Sea is based on the LXX version.

May I point out that Exodus 14:21 says it was an east wind that caused the Sea (which ever one it was) to part.

Consequently, the reference to "blast of God's nostrils" in chapter 15 is to be understood poetically (it is a song, after all), and not to be interpreted to mean that God has nostrils.

After all, if God is not a man that He should like, neither is He a man that should inhale or exhale.

Be consistent.
---Cluny on 9/26/10


Donna, I agree with Jerry's basic point. Don't be intimidated by Cluny.

I like Cluny because he challenges my intellect. The problem is that many things he says can end up hurting people's faith in Jesus Christ. His intellectualism is just that, intellectualism, and will not lead someone to Christ. It will actually lead people away from Christ and to a religion that has a form of godliness but denies the power of Christ.
---Rod4Him on 9/26/10


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Donna: Don't be intimidated by Cluny's pedantic and condescending tone. He's not the genius he pretends to be. He's merely a legend in his own mind. Continue to trust God's word and not the higher critical reasoning of the secularists, and you won't go wrong.
---jerry6593 on 9/25/10


\\If the bible says, by the breathe of His nostrils, then I do believe God has nostrils.\\

In other words, you're indulging in puerile anthropomorphism.
---Cluny on 9/25/10


Cluny, It may sound like that, but you don't know me in person and you don't know my heart, so I have to explain myself sometimes because I notice you don't respond to the question, but what you do is pick pieces of someone's response and try to point out the error of what they are saying.....God may very well have nostrils.

If the bible says, by the breathe of His nostrils, then I do believe God has nostrils.

I was just explaining that I'm not an intellectual person like you are and my faith is different than yours. I don't correct everyone's responses like you do, I give my own response, from my heart, not my intellect. That's all I'm saying.

ONLY GOD knows our hearts Cluny.
---Donna5535 on 9/23/10


\\if the Bible says, "with the blast of thy nostrils, the waters were gathered together." I assume it means with a mighty wind, God caused the Red Sea to separate.

I'm not stupid, just child-like in my faith. If my Abba Father says it's so, then it's so. I don't question, I'm a BELIEVER....not a doubter or an intellectual like you are. I have different faith than you, very child-like, so yeah maybe I do believe God has nostrils. What are you going to do about it? LOL (let's duke it out Cluny). LO\\

Childlike does not mean childish.

You got it right the first time, Donna.

(You also seem to be boasting in your humility. Beware.)
---Cluny on 9/22/10


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Cluny, it's like this.

if the Bible says, "with the blast of thy nostrils, the waters were gathered together." I assume it means with a mighty wind, God caused the Red Sea to separate.

I'm not stupid, just child-like in my faith. If my Abba Father says it's so, then it's so. I don't question, I'm a BELIEVER....not a doubter or an intellectual like you are. I have different faith than you, very child-like, so yeah maybe I do believe God has nostrils. What are you going to do about it? LOL (let's duke it out Cluny). LOL
---Donna5535 on 9/22/10


\\Exodus 15:8 - And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

Let's start backing things up with scripture instead of just guessing or giving our opinion.\\

Do you deduce from this that God has nostrils, Donna?

I hope you don't take such anthropomorphic imagery with puerile literalism.
---Cluny on 9/22/10


This is old stuff. It would hardly be on the news. I've even seen various TV shows about it.

The Hebrew Yam Suf actually means "Reed Sea". Calling it the "Red Sea" dates from the time of the LXX.

But even in English, there is only one letter's difference between the two names.

Furthermore, even if it were a natural event, the Hebrews still saw that God was actively involved.

Finally, should it have been the Reed Sea, the greatest army in the world was drowned in a few feet of water, so it's STILL a miracle.
---Cluny on 9/22/10


Donna, what you described in Exodus 15 was a song they sang to God. This was to demonstrate God's working and His intervention in their lives. The song contained four "Stanzas."
When Moses lay the rod out, it was God who did the work, not Moses. It is always God who does the work.
---MarkV. on 9/22/10


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There is a scripture, and I copied it directly from an on-line bible that says:

Exodus 15:8 - And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

Let's start backing things up with scripture instead of just guessing or giving our opinion.

P.S. When I found this scripture, I said to the Lord, "and all these years I thought it was Moses who separated the waters." LOL
---Donna5535 on 9/22/10


This is probably just "scientific" attempt to explain that Biblical events occurred WITHOUT any of GOD's involvement.

There was the story that the "Star" that guided the Three Wise Men to Jesus Christ was JUST A COMET. Nothing Biblical at all.

Then there are stories about "Earthquakes", "Hurricanes", etc. being the result of MILLIONS OF YEARS of evolution of the Earth. I'm not sure if the Bible is even that old.

As the other posters have stated, there just HAD to be divine intervention for the Israelites to cross the Red Sea on dry ground.


---Sag on 9/22/10


Jody, continuing with your quote about the wind, just think about the type mentioned in John 3:8, where it says,
"The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes, So is everyone who is born of the Spirit" Jesus point was that just as the wind cannot be controlled or understood by human beings but its effects can be witnessed, so also it is with the Holy Spirit. He cannot be controlled or understood, but the proof of His work is apparent."
Just to add to your quote.
In answer to the question, the answer is "Yes" it was the wind as Scripture declares.
---MarkV. on 9/22/10


Yr's ago I was in a bapt - church & the visiting minister said the children of Israel crossed over in ankle deep water. The pastor said, I just don't see how an army could have drowned in ankle deep water.
Wow, what the devil gives some Man - made ministers to say.
---Lawrence on 9/22/10


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Miche: also can you imagine people being to comfortably walk in the midst of wind strong enough to hold back a path of water 6 feet deep and very long? In the natural, the people would have been blown/tossed around like balloons. Yes, it had to be divine.
---jody on 9/21/10


Exd 14:21-22 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the LORD caused the sea to go [back] by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry [land], and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry [ground]: and the waters [were] a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.
-The Bible does say God used a wind, but the amazing part is that they crossed on dry ground.
-Six feet or not, dry ground is impossible without divine intervention.
---micha9344 on 9/21/10


Scientists claim that the same thing is happening in Lake Erie. When the winds get strong.

I believe the Bible is 100% correct. The Exodus across the Red Sea DID occur.

I've heard the "wind" story and the story that the Red Sea might only have been only a "few feet deep". While these things, and others, might have occurred, there was still GOD behind it all.

Only GOD can: tailor, set up, direct, etc. events so that they occur when they should. I've known many Christians who still believe that events, like the Exodus, were just a matter of LUCK or GOOD TIMING. I even find myself thinking that way at times.

However, GOD is behind everything that occurs on HIS watch. Including the Exodus.
---Augie on 9/21/10


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