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How To Behave On Blogs

How should we behave on the blogs? If we disagree with someone's point of view, is it justified to make up lies about them? Is it right to defend someone, with whom we disagree, against lies? Should we support someone, with whom we agree, even when they are telling lies?

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Jerry, you haven't quoted Scripture as you have said about Saturday Sabbath. And that is the one you throw on others. Until you find one passage where God said, make Saturday your Sabbath, you will never have a case. So please stop telling others they are sinners and you are not.
---Mark_V. on 11/2/10


Pedant -- Yes! I got the spelling wrong...both ways! But the meaning was what I thought it to be!! (from Random House Dictionary)
Pedant--
1.A person who makes an excessive or innapropriate display of learning
2 A person who overemphazes rules or minor details.
3.A person who adheres ridgidly to book knowledge without regard to common sense

4. ( obsolete) a schoolmaster.
Is this you?
---Donna66 on 11/2/10


MarkV: "I do not oppose everything you say, only when you accuse others of sin, and have no proof to what you say. God never stated Saturday Sabbath, man did."

Much better - i.e. shorter!

I have not accused you of anything - I quote the scriptures. It is they that condemn you. You are probably the only person on earth that doesn't know that Sabado is the Sabbath (I'll go with Spanish since the English word for the same day seems to offend you.)

Why don't you research which day Jesus kept, contact your nearest astronomical observatory to see if it has changed in the last 2000 years, and keep that day?
---jerry6593 on 11/2/10


Donna ... I think you still misunderstand what I was saying.
Have you looked up my nsme Pedant (with only one 'n' in it?)
If you have you will know why I am not Pendent, nor Pendant.. but ...
---Pedant on 11/1/10


Jerry, yes, because what you believe has no truth for you to explain. I do not oppose everything you say, only when you accuse others of sin, and have no proof to what you say. God never stated Saturday Sabbath, man did.
---Mark_V. on 11/1/10




Pendant-- Apology accepted. I didn't understand the point you were trying to make or what you wanted me to "look up". (Esp. since you used the word "pendant" both times in your post of 10/29.)
I do, now, see that I wrote "pendant" one one occasion and "pendent" on another.
I know the difference, but my mind was more on the content of the blog, instead of the spelling.
So I apologise to you!
---Donna66 on 10/31/10


Pendant-- Apology accepted. I didn't understand the point you were trying to make or what you wanted me to "look up". (Esp. since you used the word "pendant" both times in your post of 10/29.)
I do, now, see that I wrote "pendant" one one occasion and "pendent" on another.
I know the difference, but my mind was more on the content of the blog, Than on the spelling.
So I apologise to you!
---Donna66 on 10/31/10


Donna ... I indeed apologise to you ... But not for insulting you, because there was no insult.

I apologise for not being as clear as I should have been. When I said //"If you look up both in the dictionary, you will understand why it is important to me that you know I am not a Pendant, but ...
---Pedant
// I meant //both "pendent" and "pedant"//

I also apologise for not being as pedantic as I should have been, for I did notice you had called me Pendent, and not Pendant!

I also apologise for not realising that you would not see that I had written in jest!
---Pedant on 10/31/10


MarkV: I'll take that as a NO! Don't you think it strange that I can say in one word what it takes you multiple paragraphs to say?
---jerry6593 on 10/31/10


Jerry, the law is binding to the lost, they are confined to the law.
"But the Scriptures has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the Law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor." Gal. 3:22-24.
Paul personifies the law as a jailer of guilty condemned sinners, on death row awaiting God's judgment (Rom.6:23). Individually faith in Christ alone releases people from bondage to law, whether the Mosaic law, or the Law written on the hearts of Gentiles.
---Mark_V. on 10/30/10




MarkV: You just keep digging deeper. Why don't you just tell us straight out whether or not YOU believe the Ten Commandments are binding on Christians today. It's not that hard. A simple YES or NO will suffice.
---jerry6593 on 10/30/10


Jerry, this same message is for you,

Francis, the whole matter of who we are and what we do as Christians is by "the will of God"
If we do anything that is good, obedience, helping others, sacrificing ourselves for someone, and many more things, it is by the will of God. I speak to you and others today, by the will of God. If you notice when Paul spoke many times he would say, "Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God"
We understand that all we do in obedience is by the will of God. Without the will of God we would be doing our will.
If you read the New Covenant God says,
"and I will put a new Spirit within them, and take the stoney heart out of their flesh,
---Mark_V. on 10/30/10


Jerry 2:
"and give them a heart of flesh, that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them:"
He doesn't say if you want to do them, but that by giving us that new Spirit, we will walk in His statutes and keep His judgments, by His will, not ours. That is what I tried to convey, that we are who we are by the will of God. Without that new spirit we do our own will, and everything we do without faith is sin. The very reason we give the glory to Christ.
And you ask, "oh, you can sin all you want" No Jerry, the will of God does not permit us to do that. We are not perfect yet but one day we will be glorified. But we do the will of God because of God. Without Him we can do nothing.
---Mark_V. on 10/30/10


Alan: No, Yes, and you may agree with them, but not with the "lies".

I think the word "lies" is much overused here. People get accused of "lying" when they characterize someone in a way the person doesn't like. It's not deliberate use of something they know to be a falsehood.

Usually on these blogs its an accusation, (with or without an element of truth) not a deliberate "lie"

Call people "liars" if you want to really inflame them and cause more dissention.
---Donna66 on 10/30/10


MarkV: "Can you show one blog where I said it was ok for Christians to sin? I bet you cannot."

You said:

"... the Ten Commandments. In fact, I do not believe that those in Christ are under the law."

The Bible says:

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Mat 5:18,19 ... Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:
---jerry6593 on 10/30/10


Pedant--Look up BOTH of WHAT in the dictionary? I inadvertantly misplaced the word "all" when I read Mark's sentence. I recognize the error and the difference in meaning... WITHOUT the help of a dictionary. Even the average 8th grader should be able to do as much....although in today's schools...maybe not.
---Donna66 on 10/29/10


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When Paul ministered the gospel of grace, the very first logical question he was confronted with was, "So, you are giving a license to sin, right?" Paul answered with an emphatic "God forbid!" This question is the "logic" of the unrenewed mind that has yet to fully understand grace. No man needs a license to sin. Man will either sin because he is a sinner or he will sin because he yielded his members as weapons against himself. If the minister of the true gospel isn't accused at least once of giving a license to sin, he hasn't really ministered the gospel of grace.
---Linda on 10/29/10


Pendant -- I don't mind you being pedantic.
Just don't be so patronizing as to send me to the dictionary as if I was poorly educated. I am not ignorant...I have several years of post-graduate education...I was just careless from reading too fast (which I thought I made clear)
Please apologize for insulting me.
---Donna66 on 10/29/10


jerry, I do not advocate anything against God. Can you show one blog where I said it was ok for Christians to sin? I bet you cannot. You knew that already, but you just had to say something because I do not agree with your legalist religion. We are "saved by Grace through faith. Not of works so that no one can boast." I do not boast as you do Jerry. I am just thankful to God He had mercy on me a sinner. But you do it for one reason, so that everyone who does not believe in Saturday Sabbath can be found sinful, but not you. Yet as to today, you have yet to provide one passage where God said for us to keep Saturday Sabbath. Not even one passage.
---Mark_V. on 10/29/10


Donna .... If you look up both in the dictionary, you will understand why it is important to me that you know I am not a Pendant, but ...
---Pedant on 10/29/10


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Donna66, Pedant: I was indeed asking for clarification from MarkV because of his statements:

"... the Ten Commandments. In fact, I do not believe that those in Christ are under the law."

Sure sounds like a license to disobey God's Ten Commandments to me. Perhaps he'll find time to clarify for us.
---jerry6593 on 10/29/10


Pendent -- Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I transpose things sometimes. However, I don't believe Mark was suggesting we should all break the ten commandments, either.

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
---Donna66 on 10/28/10


Donna you misread Jerry
He said //So are you now advocating that we all disobey God's Ten Commandments?//

He did not say //So are you now advocating that we disobey all God's Ten Commandments?//
---Pedant on 10/28/10


jerry, please! I've not heard anybody on these blogs that recommends breaking all the commandments.

However, Paul says, (Gal 5:18) But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
---Donna66 on 10/28/10


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MarkV: So are you now advocating that we all disobey God's Ten Commandments? Or is that just for you "chosen" predestinationalists? Good grief!
---jerry6593 on 10/28/10


Well, put char. That one Scripture on judging, however, Jesus was condemning the hypocrites. Those people would put down others but they, the hypocrites, were guilty of other crimes, worse crimes, and pretending to be worshiping God. But, they couldn't fool our Savior. NOOOOOO.. Good JOB.
---catherine on 10/26/10


We are not to judge.
Not one of us is perfect-enough.
There was only one man perfect-that would be Jesus Christ-the actual Word of God in flesh.
Matt 7:1
Judge not lest ye be judged.
We are to lift up one another knowing all wisdom comes from the Holy Spirit-(Father and His Word as One within us).
If we have been given wisdom and knowledge on anything-it came from God and not from our self-so we can't boast about it.
Rom3:27
God is Love-Having God in us (Love) we love one another through it.
His Kingdom WILL stand.
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them , Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand Matt 12:25
---char on 10/26/10


Deborah: "Does anybody see it? "

I do!
---jerry6593 on 10/23/10


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Deborah, I don't believe I have ever told anyone they were breaking the Ten Commandments. In fact, I do not believe that those in Christ are under the law. That is why I do not accuse them of breaking the law.
I'm also sorry you say,
"What we see in others is coming out of ourselves"."
I don't know you so I don't know what you believe, or if you are saved or not or even self-righteous. I cannot comment on your believes since I have never answered you or heard of you until now.
---MarkV. on 10/23/10


\\//How do you get along with many of those distinctive Roman Catholic doctrines that are based not on scripture but other things?
// --- leej\\

The same way you do with your Protestant ones that are not based on scripture, such as revivals, altar calls, hymnals, "sinner's prayers", "accepting Christ as one's personal Savior," none of which are in the Bible.
---Cluny on 10/22/10


//How do you get along with many of those distinctive Roman Catholic doctrines that are based not on scripture but other things?
// --- leej


Like all denominations arent guilty of this very thing?

Yes - Even the precious Calvinism is guilty of it. And they handle it in the same way every other denomination does. They ignore scripture and then they get nasty when backed into a corner.
---JackB on 10/22/10


"Jerry.....you are so self-righteous...." MarkV

MarkV, in another blog:
"What we see in others is coming out of ourselves".

Does anybody see it?
---Deborah on 10/22/10


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Jerry, there you go, and you wonder why I say what I do to you. You are so self-righteous you do not even realize how self-righteous you are. No different then any Pharisees in Jesus times. Very holy and righteous on the outside, but empty inside.
You accuse others of breaking the Ten Commandments just because they do not worship on Saturdays'. And never could you provide one passage where God said to worship Him on Saturday's. Not one. You stand on the traditions that man made, not God, and now make Saturday a legal law, which really puts you under the Law. You want us to be under the law but we are under the Grace of Christ. I'm sorry you are not.
---MarkV. on 10/22/10


MarkV: I can almost feel the love! Why do you blame me for the guilt pangs you suffer? I didn't make up the Ten Commandments, God did! If you feel comfortable defying God, and breaking His Commandments, then you have a bigger problem than I thought. Do you think that you are exempt from the Ten Commandments, and are thus free to sin as you choose because you are some elite, chosen, special class of human being? Without the Law, there is no definition of sin. If you don't know you're sinning, you can't repent. Without repentance, there is no forgiveness of sin. Without forgiveness there is no salvation. A slippery slope, indeed!
---jerry6593 on 10/22/10


I don't know! I am still trying to figure that out!
---catherine on 10/20/10


Jerry, I was not attacking you, just bringing a point that you say others do to you. You do the same. I told you I loved you, and wish that you did not do what you do. I do not mind at all where you worship and what you worship. It is your responsibility for your own decisions. It is when you tell everyone they are breaking the Ten Commandments over and over, and they give you Scripture and you still do not stop. You want us to do what you do are be condemned. We don't even suggest for you to do something different. We give answers why we don't do what you want us to do. There is many here who worship Saturday Sabbath but you don't see them acting like you. I really respect that.
---MarkV. on 10/20/10


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Word in Flesh-cleanses-temple.
Jn 2:14
Repentance to remission.
2Cor 6:16
God Himself-through His Word (Christ)
Teaches-confirms(Holy Spirit).
Humble knowing the truth is from Him-not of ourselves.
2Cor 2,Phil 2:6
He is judge.We discern the spirit-behind-whether it is of God or other.
Know them-their fruit.Gal 5:22-26
Cults take scriptures-used them for contol-2 Tim 3.
If the Holy Spirit taught you-have faith IN Him-that He will teach others.
Gods Word is truth-confirmed by Him- not our word.
Phil 2(all)
If any consolation in Christ...be likeminded having-same love-one accord-one mind.[Let]nothing[be done] through strife or vainglory,but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other BETTER than themselves.
---char on 10/20/10


MarkV: Thanks for illustrating the point of this blog. I had not mentioned you or the any of the subjects you brought up, yet you felt the need to attack me. It must be your guilty conscience that drives you to it.
---jerry6593 on 10/20/10


We should NEVER make up lies about someone else, whether on these blogs, or anyone else.

"Thou shalt not bear false witness" is one of the Ten Commandments. Even if one believes we are under grace and not bound by these, lying about someone certainly violates "love your neighbor as yourself".

Also, if you are a Christian, you should be following the Golden Rule - if you lie about someone else, it means you want others to lie about you, and have no cause to complain if they do so.

We should not lie, even to advance our own just causes. We should not support someone who does so. We should even defend our enemies against lies - if someone teaches error, truth is a much stronger weapon against error anyway.
---StrongAxe on 10/18/10


Jerry, I never attack you as a person, but your legal Saturday for the Sabbath. What you do is exactly what you quoted when you said,
"Most of the animosity I sense is due to pre-judged denominational bias (or religious bigotry)." what you see in others is coming from you. I have told you, I don't mind what you want to do for the Sabbath or what day you want do observe it. Whatever you do is ok with any of us, it is when you accuse us for not doing what you do and breaking the Ten Commandments to justify your sinless behavior and our lack of it. But not the Sabbath itself, but a legal Saturday for the Sabbath. And when you say God said so, you have no proof He said Saturday.
---MarkV. on 10/18/10


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Q: How should we behave on the blogs?

A: As Yahushua would.

Q: If we disagree with someone's point of view, is it justified to make up lies about them?

A: No, never!

Q: Is it right to defend someone, with whom we disagree, against lies?

A: Yes

Q: Should we support someone, with whom we agree, even when they are telling lies?

A: No
---AlwaysOn on 10/16/10


I have been attacked, impugned, etc. on this site as much as anyone, but I don't mind that so much, as I have fairly thick skin and can hold my own. Most of the animosity I sense is due to pre-judged denominational bias (or religious bigotry). My main concern, however, is that the Moderators are not always neutral parties, and because of their own particular biases, seem to favor one party or another and even refuse to print one side of a discussion. They need to be "fair and balanced".
---jerry6593 on 10/16/10


2 TIMOTHY 2:24 And the servant of the LORD must not strive, but be gentle unto ALL MEN,apt to teach, patient.
25 IN meekness intructing those that oppose themselves, if GOD peradventure will give them repentance to acknowledge of the truth, ( peradventure means maybe)
---RICHARD on 10/10/10


Well, I am calling for each and every blogger to please read the question, well, before you answer it.....I am calling for each and every blogger to read the responses, well, before responding. You can read. Can't you? Lets go. Hope everyone is having a pleasant Sunday. + Hallelujah.
---catherine on 10/10/10


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alan, I have always admired and respected you and your walk with the Lord.

Don't you think "you shall know them by their fruit" applies here?

Or the saying, "Eat the chicken and spit out the bones."

I just skip over the babbling, complaining, critical responses as soon as I see them.

If you walk in the truth, and I know you do alan, then you will have fellowship with one another (1st John). Anyone we don't have fellowship with isn't walking in the light, and in the truth of God's word so ignore them. Right? Or am I missing something here? (((huggsss alan))))))
---Donna5535 on 10/10/10


Jesus said if we don't forgive, we won't be forgiven.
---KarenD on 10/9/10

true! True! TRUE!
---Sag on 10/10/10


//I've actually been stalked across multiple topics by several people (and witnessed it happening to others)//

OTOH,

I have seen some unfairly attacked on one blog and then the blog was closed. normally, being attacked does not bother me. but, some blogs do require response, and sometimes this format makes some appear as stalkers.

however, this site also allows hit-and-run perpetrators that are very unfair in what they say and how they say it.
---aka on 10/9/10


//How should we behave on the blogs? .... //

I'll get to all of your questions later, but first. If their is anyone who wants to escape hell,... ---catherine on 10/9/10

I believe>>>>>that we should only answer the questions. ... ---catherine on 10/9/10

By the authority in Jesus Christ, just takin' Eloy's advice.
---aka on 10/9/10


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Amen! to your answer Catherine. But don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. I don't
often visit this blog for that very reason...the original question rarely gets addressed after the first couple of answers. That's sad because I'm sure people ask questions because they really want an answer.
---Jake on 10/9/10


If you are a born again christian you should know how to act on these blogs and anywhere you go. At work,play,church,home etc...The Holy Spirit is our guide. But of course, we have to let Him lead us. Wherever we are, we represent Christ. We are to do all things decent and in order. We are to carry ourselves as christian men and women. Adhering to the very highest standards that are befitting a child of God. We should treat others as we want to be treated. That pretty much covers it all when we follow the Golden Rule. You can do everything you said in your post but do remember the Golden Rule and you will do ok on this site. Blessings
---Robyn on 10/9/10


I believe>>>>>that we should only answer the questions. Ignore other"s answers, if that's possible! God help us all.
---catherine on 10/9/10


Alan, Christians posting: "All that whatever you all do in word or in work, that all in the name of Jesus, in him giving thanks to Father God." Col.3:17. Making up of lies is unrighteous. Defending the truth-teller is righteous. And sin-supporting is unrighteous.
---Eloy on 10/9/10


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I'll get to all of your questions later, but first. If their is anyone who wants to escape hell, you must submit to God, when He comes a calling to give you a way to escape....No one in their right minds really wants to go to hell. Are you in your right minds, today?
---catherine on 10/9/10


sag.....LOL....When you don't see me post on this site for awhile, know that it is because I am engrossed in a very busy schedule of serving the Lord and telling people about Jesus. As far as Jimmy Swaggart, I thought that was funny since I had forgotten all about it. Just think how you would feel if people kept bringing up your past and talking to other people about it all the time. Jesus said if we don't forgive, we won't be forgiven.
---KarenD on 10/9/10


But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
---Josef on 10/8/10


I wish that everyone really understood that.

Sometimes, it seems like Christians behave even "worse" than non-Christians.

Little wonder that many people purposely "avoid" churches, Christians, anything having to do with religion.

GOD isn't at all pleased when that happens. We are supposed to be HIS "light" to the world, and draw/attract others into a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The last thing that we should be doing is pushing others away.

Think about that. Everyone.
---Augie on 10/9/10


some of what you ask is answered in the lords prayer,forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us,but we as believers are directed to correct our brothers and sisters in love.The human race has always had a pre position to argue, or nature to argue and disagree,I believe its usually the flesh that causes this.
---tom2 on 10/9/10


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Alan: Excellent blog question and excellent post!

I too have seen a lot of what I call "religious bigotry" on this website. Like you, I disagree with some of the doctrines of other religions, but I would never question another Christian's salvation or his love for Jesus. I think that two biblical concepts should guide our discussions:

(1) 1Pe 3:15 ... "be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" - Show from the Bible why you believe what you believe.

(2) Eph 4:15 ... "speaking the truth in love" - Truth is important, but without love, it is ineffectual.
---jerry6593 on 10/9/10


Question 1). Like children of god. 2). No. 3). Yes. 4). No.
When posting we should all consider this .
"Flee youthful lusts, but pursue righteousness, faith, love, [and] peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. A servant [how much more a son] of the Lord must not quarrel, but be gentle to all, able to 'teach', [as in share information with the intent to enlighten], patient. In humility correcting those who are in opposition, if, God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth." 2 Tim. 2:22-25
---Josef on 10/8/10


alan of uk-

Well, join the club. There are far too many Anti-Catholics are these blogs, misrepresenting their doctrines/practices, and have zero idea of Eastern Christianity, often labeling Eastern Orthodoxy as "Catholicism". I have been accused of being a Roman Catholic just because I share some of their beliefs (as do all here).

When I defend the RCC, I get attacked. I am not Catholic, but like you, hate to see people spread lies about the Roman Church (i.e., the Pope is God incarnated, etc).

It is a shame that sometimes we can not have a adult conversation in these blogs without another member calling people names, and spreading lies.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 10/8/10


How do you get along with many of those distinctive Roman Catholic doctrines that are based not on scripture but other things?
---leej on 10/8/10

Sorry, but I don't know of any such doctrines. Actually, I think that Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota has MORE statues than my Catholic church!

There are statues of:

Mary Tyler Moore and Sid Hartman in Minneapolis

Herb Brooks in St. Paul

Looks like Actresses, and Sports Heroes, have become MORE important than even the Catholic church. At least their statues, like of the Pieta, have good meanings.
---Sag on 10/8/10


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think it's impossible to ask people to behave when defending their belief systems most here defend their systems and because they are emotionally charged to their beliefs they actually believe people are making up lies about them

are you saying people here are acting like children making up personal lies against someone? are these posters taken seriously - a personal attack against someone or an attack against someones beliefs that are taken personally???

might be impossible to police others actions when they react instead of discuss

I've actually been stalked across multiple topics by several people (and witnessed it happening to others) - you can't stop people from hating this is not Christs world YET
---Rhonda on 10/8/10


It's acceptable to disagree with someone, just don't become disagreeable. If I make a statement that is personal opinion, I state that when required. If it's an answer that requires a Biblical answer, I document my answer with Scripture. (If a person disagrees with Scriputure, taken in its' proper contaxt, than there argument is with God, not me.) I never argue with a person who has an opinion different from mine, since that's all it is, an opinion.
---wivv on 10/8/10


Cluny ... You are letting yourself be diverted by Leej away from the question I asked! And as so often here, a completely unrelated blog suddenly turns into an anti-Catholic rant.

I think you will understand why I have raised the question.

There is a tendency for some people to make misrepresentations about what others have said. And there is certainly a tendency to make lies about the RCC.

When I point out the inaccuracy, I am accused of siding with the RCC, which I do not. I disagree with a lot of RCC practices, but I will not stand quiet when lies are made against it.

I would have every reason to hate someone who stole my fortune, but I would still defend them agains an untrue murder allegation.

---alan8566_of_uk on 10/8/10


\\The Roman Church claims that Christ gave Peter the keys to the church which in turn were handed downward only to the bishops of Rome. Have you ever found any evidence to support that view or do you simply accept it without question?\\

Can you produce any evidence to refute this?
---Cluny on 10/8/10


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We should bring honor and glory to our Lord in EVERYTHING we do.

We are never justified in bearing false witness. We are never justified in returning evil for evil. We must not associate with someone who is choosing to sin.

I know at times I can be harsh and abrasive. Anyone who has seen this side of me, to them, I sincerely apologize.

Ps 19:14 "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditations of my heart be acceptable in Your sight, oh Lord my strength and my Redeemer"
---Mark_Eaton on 10/8/10


Wow! This question pretty much shows why a lot of Christians have stopped posting on this site.
---KarenD on 10/8/10

I too have noticed that not many as people have been posting as before.

Have I been too "angry" or "judgmental" in my postings? Me hope not!

I don't know about other folks, but I appreciate it when others "correct" me or ask me to "cool it".

KarenD: I know that I still need to work on "forgiving" Jimmy Swaggart. Have mercy on me!

The Bible say in 2 Timothy 3:16 --

All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
---Sag on 10/8/10


Sag //I ended up "returning" to the Catholic church. Not perfect, but at least there isn't any ant-Catholic bullying.

How do you get along with many of those distinctive Roman Catholic doctrines that are based not on scripture but other things?

The Roman Church claims that Christ gave Peter the keys to the church which in turn were handed downward only to the bishops of Rome. Have you ever found any evidence to support that view or do you simply accept it without question?
---leej on 10/8/10


We should respect the individuals. However we should put Gods word first, so if someone is misrepresenting Gods word, point it out ,but not while being rude. If what they are saying is not lined up with scripture it is our job to tell them.
---candice on 10/8/10


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WOW Alan, Lying is a SIN, no matter what the reasons. We should never support a lie or Liar, no matter who is telling it. Even if our best friend is.

Liars cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

It is a shame we cannot rebuke false teaching without all the other stuff that comes with that responsibility. However we are told we will be persecuted, and lied about etc. SATAN our adversary is the father of LIES! Therefore their father is Satan. and we should have NO FELLOWSHIP with anyone who professes Christ and slanders and lies about anyone.

So, if you've been the victim of someone's lying slander...PRAISE GOD!!! You're in Good company!!
---kathr4453 on 10/8/10


I'm not a Roman Catholic (as I frequently point out), but over half the things said here about Roman Catholics are not true.
---Cluny on 10/8/10

Galatians 3:28 reads as follows:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I was born and raised Catholic. After I was "saved", I tried attending several other churches: Assemblies Of God, Charismatic, Independent, etc. Most of them seemed rather "hateful" towards anyone who even mentions the word "Catholic".

I ended up "returning" to the Catholic church. Not perfect, but at least there isn't any ant-Catholic bullying.
---Sag on 10/8/10


Wow! This question pretty much shows why a lot of Christians have stopped posting on this site.
---KarenD on 10/8/10


\\Is it right to defend someone, with whom we disagree, against lies?\\

I do that all the time.

I'm not a Roman Catholic (as a frequently point out), but over half the things said here about Roman Catholics are not true.
---Cluny on 10/8/10


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alan8566_of_uk...I just got off the telephone with someone over in our UK office, I love their accents.

alan, it is NOT justified to make up lies about someone if we disagree with their point of view - those kinds of posts should not even be posted.

If you defend someone, do it with scripture and in love. NOT LIES. The devil is a liar, not Christ in us, the Hope of Glory. Who is doing this to you? Let's expose them.

If we were all of One Spirit in Christ Jesus, would we still be having these arguments?

We should NOT support someone with whom we agree, even when they are telling lies. How can you agree with a liar? Wouldn't that make you or anyone else a liar? if they agree with a liar? Does't make sense.
---Donna5535 on 10/8/10


It can be easy to be decoyed with someone else's lying, instead of first making sure we are not fooling our own selves. We can lie to ourselves, fool our own selves and not even know it, by assuming a lier is telling the truth when we do not know this. It is our own responsibility to find out with God how to know who to trust and who not to trust . . . so, among other things, we do not fool ourselves into marrying someone we don't belong with.

But when we just want to use people, then is when we can be willing to take shortcuts and make up excuses not to make sure with God. Look at how the Jewish leaders fooled their own selves into trusting wrong people, when they needed to make sure with God. Joshua 9:1-14, 1 Thessalonians 5:21
---Bill on 10/8/10


The Golden Rule,Luke 6,31 and as you would men should do unto you,even so do you also unto them likewise. We should put ourselves into anothers place,and think how they will feel if attacked. Respect for others is a basic action we should practice at all times. You do not respect someone if you can lie about them and a lie is never justified. Yes it is right to defend a person's right to their opinion and to give Bible verses to the offender about how wrong it is to judge a Child-of-God with lies. No,if we know someone is lying and we support them we become partakers of their sin. If every Christian lived by the Law of Love,no one would be so hateful to another. A kind word turns away wrath.
---Darlene_1 on 10/8/10


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