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First Four Gospels In Bible

A few weeks ago ABC Television conducted random interviews with people who attend Church on a regular basis. When asked "WHAT IS THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE" and "WHAT ARE THE FIRST FOUR GOSPELS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT", most people had no clue.
What are you thoughts?

Moderator - Most people don't read a Bible anymore.

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JackB, God says, "Faith without works is dead":
sinners say, "Faith without works is a gift of salvation".
To the workless, thus says the Lord: "Say not within yourself, I have Abraham to my father, or I have Jesus to my salvation:
for Abraham I know, and righteous Jesus I know, but who are you?
I say not, Well believed you good and faithful believer, enter into my joy: No, not at all,
says the Lord, but I say: Well done you good and faithful servant, enter you into my joy. Now if you truly want to be in my love and want to be with me, then repent and do my will: for the figless tree is no worth to me says the Lord, and is condemned."
---Eloy on 11/7/10


Ginger 2:
What "this present evil age" means, an order or system. In perticular to the current world system ruled by satan (Rom. 12:2, 1 John 2:15, 16, 5:19). Deliever us according to the will of God" not the will of man by his own works, but by the will of God, which is designed through Christ sacrifice and fulfilled by His glory. Paul says, "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the Grace of Christ to a different gospel which is not another, but there are som who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ" Now isn't that what's happening? people perverting the Gospel of Grace? Promoting others to seek salvation with their own works? their own free will?
---Mark_V. on 11/7/10


//Most of you, (free will) believers, believe you come to Christ out of your own free will, your works.//---MarkV

We arent saved by our works. Belief is NOT a work. Faith is NOT a work. Trust is NOT a work. Living by the law is NOT a work if youre doing it to please God and not to declare yourself righteous. There is a difference.

Faith, if placed in the right person (Jesus Christ,) will produce a change of heart because HE changes us.

While our faith in Jesus' WORKS are what saves us, the word of God still tells us that we CANNOT MOCK GOD. We WILL reap what we sow.

We cannot abuse the freedom that is given to us and use it as an excuse to sin. We must remain REPENTANT!
---JackB on 11/7/10


Ginger, I was hoping God would reveal His Word to some.
Point:
Most of you, (free will) believers, believe you come to Christ out of your own free will, your own works. In Galatians 1:1-9 Paul was concern over the defection from the gospel within the Galatian churches, which is evident by his greetings. Paul was attacking the Judiazers legalistic system. If Salvation is by works as they claimed, it is not of "Grace" and cannot result in "peace" since no one can be sure he has enough good works to be eternally secured. No one can avoid sin by human effort or law keeping (Rom. 3:20) so he goes on to explain to them that at "this present age" which in the Grk. does not refer to a period of time,
---Mark_V. on 11/7/10


Steveng ... It is not that I am lazy at all.

Please notice that I did not say "But I do wish that Steveng would stop being all misterious and come out with what that Gospel is"

I said "But I do wish that Steveng would stop being all misterious and come out with what he believes that Gospel is"

I asked because you have been mysterious. But now I wonder why you have been so censorious of all other Christians as if our perception of the Gospel was very far from the truth.
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/7/10




alan8566_of_uk: "But I do wish..."

What's wrong Alan, don't like a little work?

Christians today are too knowledgable. They turn one simple gospel into many complex doctrines (look at all the different denominations and interpretations there are today). Jesus did not come to this world to talk about himself...

He came to preach about the Kingdom of God.

That's it. That is the Good News. He also taught us about how to get there. And he performed miracles to prove who he said he was. Even though Jesus "performed" the miracles, it was actually God the Father working through Jesus.
---Steveng on 11/6/10


Why should they read the Bible, when the church teaches them they are all saved?

"Seek and you will find"
They were seeking to be saved, and the church teaches them that they are "saved".
They are given no reason to read the Bible, or to live in obedience to God.

Let's say you are 16, and you are seeking a brand New Car from your Parents.
Your parents buy you the Car and tell you they want you to get good grades for the car.
Would your grades matter once you got the Car?
---David on 11/6/10


MarkV,
that is not THE GOSPEL.

And by the way it would do you well if you stop adding to the word of God.
Don't think we didn't notice that little insert you put in there '[christian]'.

Christ says himself he came to die for the whole world's sins, not just your 'elect'.

It is a gift given by God that can be freely accepted by any and all who would believe when it is told to them.
---ginger on 11/6/10


I agree with the moderator. Church-going does not always mean Christian-going, and also many churches today are nonChristian and the synagogues of satan.
---Eloy on 11/6/10


Yes, there is only one Gospel.
The word Gospel mean "Good news".

The Good news was given to us in writing from 4 different perspectives. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.

The Gospel is that Christ the son of God came in the flesh, was crucified unto death and resurrected.
He died for all the worlds sin(not just the elect like some here try to push on the world) so that we could have eternal life through HIM.
He came to do the will of the father in heaven, and reconcile mankind back to God.
That is why the veil was ripped in 2 when he died. We are no longer seperated from God. We can get back to him and do his will through
Christ Jesus- THE GOSPEL!!
---ginger on 11/6/10




Galatians 1:3-5,
"Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins, (christians) that He might deliever us from this present evil age, "according to the will of our God and Father," to whom be glory forever and ever, Amen" It was not by the free will of man that we are delievered from this present evil age, it is by the will of God.
Gal. 1:8, 9. "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you that what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, "If anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed"
---Mark_V. on 11/6/10


//--Cluny on 11/6/10//
We have probably discussed this before, with no Biblical proof that Luke was a Gentile
---michael_e on 11/6/10


\\Cluny, If the Apostle Paul did not write a Gospel, please explain what is written in Ephesians Chapter Three!\\

A section of an Epistle.

michael_e, why would Luke, a Gentile, be sent to write a Gospel to Jews?
---Cluny on 11/6/10


Donna ... Mark is right ... Of course there is only one Gospel
The people who translated and produced the Authorised Version of the Bible (you call it KJV) understood that, and called Matthew not "Matthew's Gospel", but "The Gospel according to St Matthew" .

Mark wrote "The Gospel according to St Mark"

So each of the four Gospel writers wrote their own account of the life of Jesus.

But it is all one Gospel.

But I do wish that Steveng would stop being all misterious and come out with what he believes that Gospel is.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/6/10


And by reading many of these posts, it appears that many don't truly know what the gospel is.

Hints:
There is only ONE gospel.
Christ taught it.
The apostles taught it.
It was mentioned in both the old and new testaments.
The gospel was/is not about Jesus.
The gospel was/is not about salvation.
The gospel was/is not about grace.
There is only one word of which all the laws and commands hang upon that will allow people to attain the gospel.
---Steveng on 11/5/10


That was a poor christian attitude to take, Mark V. What are you affraid of? Are you also going to share with us about how you enjoy twisting people's replies?

What we ask is a very simple question, "What is the gospel to you?" Which has a very simple answer.

Saying that God does not want us to know the truth about who you really are is definately not of God. This is just an excuse to hide something. What are you hiding? What are you affraid of?

And what about this "In fact maybe"? Is it a fact or is it a maybe? Don't you know what God said? Don't you know what you believe?
---Steveng on 11/5/10


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Peter was chief apostle to the 12 tribes of Israel and will sit on one of the 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel. According to the bible Israel because of spiritual blindness was set aside as the agency through which God would reveal himself to mankind.
Setting aside Israel, the risen Lord revealed to Paul an unprophesied mystery program for the Gentiles called the "dispensation of the grace of God". To Paul was revealed God's new agency called the "body of Christ." Salvation would not be according to the law of Moses but built upon faith in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul was given the doctrine, duty and destiny of the church the body of Christ.
---michael_e on 11/5/10


You can argue semantics and shades of meaning all you want.
BUT there must be some reason that the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are called "Gospels"! What's the history behind this terminology?
Paul's writings are letters to specific people. Thus they are called "Epistles", (although they also express the "good news" of Christ's "Gospel")
---Donna66 on 11/5/10


//please explain!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/5/10
I say there WERE 2 gospels.
The 12 sent to Israel alone, and then to Israel first, God's program AT THAT TIME was with Israel. (Matt. 10:5, Acts 3:25 26)

Paul sent to the nations, because the program of God NOW is the "dispensation of the grace of God" for all. (Rom. 11:13, Eph. 3:1)

Peter, and the 11, had the "gospel of the circumcision" committed unto them to bring, the good news of Israel's covenanted kingdom and blessings. (Matt. 10:6 8, Gal. 2:7 8)

Paul had the "gospel of the uncircumcision" committed unto him, good news of God now being long suffering and having turned to Gentiles to accomplish a secret purpose (Gal. 2:7 8)
---michael_e on 11/5/10


Amen JackB. and Steven.

I asked him too and I am still waiting.

So, Markv, what is the TRUE Gospel?
---ginger on 11/5/10


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/JackB on 10/30/10 Theres only ONE gospel.//

Amen, totally agree, why is it so hard for people to understand.
---michael_e on 10/31/10

michael_e, i'm totally confused by your comment here. First you AMEN to JackB for only ONE Gospel, and yet you claim there are 2 gospels. One being Paul's Gospel and another Gospel to Jews.

please explain!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/5/10


And just because of your stupid comment, I will make you wait. In fact maybe, God does not want you to know it. I do not know about what God's will is for your life, only God does. What I do know is that after hearing you, I decided to not indulge you.
---Mark_V. on 11/5/10


Still waiting on that answer huh, Steven? lol

Its gonna be a doozy for sure. I always thought open book tests were the easiest. Apparently they arent.
---JackB on 11/4/10


Mark_V: "All gospels are the same."

Just for the record, what is the gospel to you?
---Steveng on 11/3/10


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//4. Paul's ministry was given by directly by Jesus to talk of The gospel of grace of God. (Acts 20:24)---aka on 11/2/10//

Right Aka
Which Paul calls my gospel Rom. 2:16
Rom.16:25 2 Tim. 2:8

Based on belief in the death burial and resurrection of Christ plus nothing as he states in 1 Cor 15:1-4
---michael_e on 11/3/10


//In case you didn't know...//

1. neither Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, nor Paul wrote a gospel. the Holy Spirit did.

2. the word gospel in the Bible is not limited to "a life of Jesus". The word used in Scripture for gospel is 'euaggelion' meaning a good message.

E.g. In Matthew and Mark, does the (gospel) 'life of Jesus' of the kingdom make more sense than the (gospel) 'good news' of the kingdom?

3. the gospel John was specifically written about Jesus' final three years, and not His whole life.

4. Paul's ministry was given by directly by Jesus to talk of The gospel of grace of God. (Acts 20:24)
---aka on 11/2/10


Cluny, you wrote "THE GOSPEL HAS LIMITED MEANING" and "ST. PAUL DID NOT WRITE A GOSPEL". Where in the world did you get that MESS?

Cluny, If the Apostle Paul did not write a Gospel, please explain what is written in Ephesians Chapter Three!

Is this your way of denying and rejecting what the Apostle Paul wrote in the books of Romans through 2 Timothy?

So many people claim to be Christian and people of God, yet they reject what the Apostle wrote to the Churches and too Timothy.
---Rob on 11/3/10


All gospels are the same. There is only one Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is four writers that are given credit for the books they wrote concerning the life of Christ, but they all preached the same Gospel of Christ. Since there are different descriptive titles, they are still the same gospel, Galatians 1:6-9.
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-which really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned"
---Mark_V. on 11/3/10


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\\For some reason, that denomination always avoided the Gospel the Apostle Paul preached to the Gentiles, after Christ's resurection.\\

In case you didn't know, when discussing the books of the Bible, "Gospel" has a limited meaning, namely Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

St. Paul did not write a Gospel--that is, a life of Jesus--that is included in the NT.

Could you be referring to the Church of the Four Square Gospel? I think the "four square" part is taken from the end of Revelation about the New Jerusalem, and is not intended to exclude Paul's writings, even though at the time the Apocalypse was written, not all NT books had been written yet.
---Cluny on 11/2/10


//For some reason, that denomination always avoided the Gospel the Apostle Paul preached to the Gentiles, after Christ's resurection.---Rob on 11/2/10//

Amen Rob, Study the Bible "rightly divided" is the right way.
---michael_e on 11/2/10


There are only four gospels in the entire bible.

If I asked, "What are the four gospels of the New Testament?" You would answer Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. If I asked, "What are the four gospels of the bible?" you would still answer Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. If I asked, "What are the first four books of the New Testament?" You again would answer Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. If I asked, "What are the first four books of the bible?" It really depends upon who you ask, but the KJV has them as Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers.
---Steveng on 11/2/10


Cluny, I was brought up in a denomination which only taught the Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John which was given to the Jews during Christ's earthly Ministry.

For some reason, that denomination always avoided the Gospel the Apostle Paul preached to the Gentiles, after Christ's resurection.

Through those many, many years, I never heard and I knew absolutely nothing about the Gospel that Paul preached until I began to study scripture for myself , 2 Timothy 2:14-19, and Acts 17:11.

OOPS! Did I have a slip of the tongue and say I do study scripture. I often wonder if this is the reason why I have been bannished from that denomination.
---Rob on 11/2/10


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The "first four" Gospels in the New Testament" implies there are more! Probably a slip of the tongue, but leaves you wondering if the questioner has a "clue".
---Donna66 on 11/2/10


\\"I thought there were just 4 Gospels in he N.T."

Cluny, you are just joking, aren't you?
---Rob on 11/2/10\\

How many Gospels in the NT are there besides those called Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John? (I might add that their titles derive from liturgical practice, but that's a different story.)
---Cluny on 11/2/10


"I thought there were just 4 Gospels in he N.T."

Cluny, you are just joking, aren't you?
---Rob on 11/2/10


I thought there WERE just 4 Gospels in the NT.
---Cluny on 11/2/10


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Shame on them!!!!!! That is a sad commentary on them not on Jesus.
---joyce on 11/1/10


To an unbeliever, the words in the Bible, just stares back at them....I can not figure out why an unbeliever would even read the Bible.
*****

God calls to truth ...some who are unbelievers now may die unbelievers ...today is NOT only day of salvation as religious deception teaches

some unbelievers will have their eyes opened to seek Truth

for many who believe themselves as "believers" the Words of God says something all together different than what is the plain Truth in Holy Scripture ...it all depends which brand they serve and which beliefs are popular

not everyone who calls on Christ takes his command seriously and separates themselves from the world its systems and ITS religions ABOUT christianity
---Rhonda on 10/31/10


Catherine--Actually, I know of quite a few non-believers who sat down with a Bible, determined to find some Truth and answers for their lives. Very often (but not always) it was the Gideon Bible they found in their hotel room.
Inside the back cover of that Bible was a clear explanation of Salvation and an invitation to accept it. It is sad that many hotel chains (as well as schools, hospitals etc) have now banned the Gideons, though they will place other "inspiration material" in their rooms (and I'm not speaking just of the Book of Mormon.)
Don't assume that all unbelievers have no desire for God.
---Donna66 on 10/31/10


Francis, it is true when you say most people, because most people are not saved. So yes, there is a large amount. If you are talking about the percentages in believers you would have to do a study to have facts of what you say. Just talk does not show anything true.
---Mark_V. on 10/30/10


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What in the world can you expect, most people don't know Jesus! And most people don't even know how to interpret Scripture. To an unbeliever, the words in the Bible, just stares back at them....I can not figure out why an unbeliever would even read the Bible. What in this world do they get out of it. Salvation? Think again.
---catherine on 10/31/10


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*****

Amen ...we once lived where majority attended the white toothed grinned best selling positive preaching man with a massive congregation and personality wares business - selling of God without God ...the holy roller of flowery watered down no Scripture approach ...many more adopting this religious deception industry of make money from God ...country club christians who follow their lying preachers who preach with no teaching selling lie "lets just love in-christ"

most go to church for what they GET in benies not to know God ...fun activities, daycare, or adoration of preacher ...so yes why bother to open Word of God if false ministers teach lie to just profess Christ
---Rhonda on 10/30/10


most people had no clue.
What are you thoughts?

TRUE STATEMENT!

In the south this year, there is an issue of when to celebrate halloween, many counties are doing on on Saturday, and not sunday.
WHY? Because they do not wish to celebrate halloween " on the sabbath."

Surely very few christians even in the bible belt know what is in the bible.
---francis on 10/30/10


John, You answered me with something I did not talk about, Jews
"You characterize Jews by separating out the Orthodox sect. Why? Why not do the same with Christians?
MarkV. on 10/26/10"

I did not talk about Jews at all, so I do not know what you are talking about. I was speaking about the denominations within Christianity.
You said,
I believe the overwhelming majority of protestants know less than 1% of scripture and Judaic/Early Church history. Because there is NO emphasis on Sanctification. Grace(Justification)only!"
You also made this statement that is impossible to know unless you went to each one, and read what they studied and tested everyone to know what they know.
---Mark_V. on 10/30/10


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\\Going to church does not make one a Christian, any more than standing in the middle of a garage makes you a car.
---Eloy on 10/26/10\\

Just like poring over lexica makes no one a Bible translator and scholar?
---Cluny on 10/29/10


//The result of that teaching is absolute disrespect and lack of reverence for G-d. Who cares about G-d when you already passed with a guaranteed "A".

WHY STUDY OR CARE IF YOU ALREADY PASSED.
---JOHN on 10/25/10
//

Because you love God for what He has done for you.

Its trying to do what is right out of love for God because youre already righteous (by his grace) as opposed to doing what is right out of fear of his judgement because you know you are unrighteous (by his law)

If the good things we do arent done out of love for God for what he has done then those things will be burned up.
---JackB on 10/27/10


1.Genesis is the first book of the Bible
2.the first 4 Gospels of the New Testament are
a)Matthew
b)Mark
C)Luke
D)John

i noticed no one took the time to answer the question asked on ABC.

and i do read the Bible because how will we know about our Lord if we don't read about him?

and more Christians read their Bible than some know about , if you watch their walk you will see Jesus. Have you seen him lately?
---Lea on 10/27/10


I believe youre right Mark_Eaton...

"pot luck"
"G-d"

It seems someone is hiding..
---JackB on 10/27/10


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You characterize Jews by separating out the Orthodox sect. Why? Why not do the same with Christians?
MarkV. on 10/26/10

That's because the Orthodox Jews are the only remaining Jews. Both the Conservative and the Reform Jews are Edomites (Khazars).

I later posted that the Orthodox and some Catholics are generally well verse in Scripture and History.

These is especially true of the Orthodox Church who do not have the Roman Legalism attached to their faith and are more spritually based than the Catholics or the Protestants.

I believe the overwhelming majority of protestants know less than 1% of scripture and Judaic/Early Church history.

Because there is NO emphasis on Sanctification. Grace(Justification)only!
---John on 10/26/10


Going to church does not make one a Christian, any more than standing in the middle of a garage makes you a car.
---Eloy on 10/26/10


I agree that there has been way to much "easy believism" taught in all churches over the last 50 or so years. Satan knows that Jesus is God, the second person of the trinity, but this type of belief does not bring salvation.
We have been guilty of teaching this type in our churches. The belief that leads to salvation is one where the person puts all there trust and hope for this life and the future in Christ knowing he will take care of all there needs now and forever. A prayer of the mind does not change the heart, repeating my words does not effect your change. In must be their prayer and their desire.
---Harold on 10/26/10


Donna66, you are correct. What's happen is that many denominations, have many different deviations within the denominations. Many Baptist Churches still teach the Truth, just like many others denominations. Just about every hour of the day another deviation is formed by someone, because they do not believe in one area of Scripture doctrine within their denomination. Charles Russel from the Jehovah Witnessess was one of them, he started his own deviation after calling himself a "skeptic." and came upon another group called "Second Adventist which later served as his faith, after following the teachings of E. White, he started his own group which consisted of six members. And from there we know them as the Jehovah Witnesses.
---MarkV. on 10/26/10


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Yet a Muslim who thinks the world is flat knows his Quran inside and out. Same with the Orthodox Jews.
---John on 10/24/10

You characterize Jews by separating out the Orthodox sect. Why? Why not do the same with Christians? Why do you not see that there are true Christians and that there are "tare" Christians? Why do you continue to SHOUT at us? Do you have any discernment about this?

Saying you are a "Christian" is meaningless today. It is equivalent to saying "I am an American" while being an illegal alien.

"Many on that day will say Lord, Lord..."
---Mark_Eaton on 10/26/10


Many because they teach you're save by a 1 minute "ticketpaid" sinners prayer, you will not endure the tribulation and so let's just have pot luck.
---JOHN on 10/25/10

Is your name really PASTOR JIM?

You use the same wording, phrasing and SHOUTING that he did. You are also passionate about the same subjects that he was. Suddenly he stopped posting and you started posting. Hmm....
---Mark_Eaton on 10/26/10


Because I use what you have termed,"1 minute "ticketpaid" sinners prayer" perhaps I have some idea of its effect upon people. I once had the experience of leading a barely literate man in a" ticketpaid sinners prayer" and meeting him two weeks later with this question. Well buddy has anything in your life changed? To which he replied. Well apparently I have quit cursing(this man was a laborer on the river and he was certainly an accomplished cusser, taking God's name in vain every other word and just a filthy mouth). All my friends have mentioned that I'm no longer cuss. Does the" ticketpaid sinners prayer" work? If you only knew!!!
---mima on 10/26/10


John -- Don't paint with too broad a brush!
How much actual experience have you had with Baptist churches?. I don't agree with them doctrinally on all points, BUT they are the only ones in this area that DO teach the Bible systematically. (not just Sunday sermons, but Bible studies Sundays, weekdays and evenings).
---Donna66 on 10/25/10


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\\Many because they teach you're save by a 1 minute "ticketpaid" sinners prayer, you will not endure the tribulation and so let's just have pot luck.

The result of that teaching is absolute disrespect and lack of reverence for G-d. Who cares about G-d when you already passed with a guaranteed "A".

WHY STUDY OR CARE IF YOU ALREADY PASSED.
---JOHN on 10/25/10\\

My sentiments exactly.
---Cluny on 10/25/10


Harold, that was a great answer you gave concerning the church in many cases. I believe the Catholic Church for most of history were the only one's who had Scripture. They do still believed that only they can interpret the Bible. The fear was, that if people begin to read it, they would find that most of what the Church taught was not in Scripture but traditions they themselves put as articles of faith, and people would leave the church. If you remember most of those who converted to the Christianity were forced to convert or else. Every country they went to with missionaries, the people were treated terrible unless they converted, alot would be punished. They were forced to convert.
---MarkV. on 10/26/10


Cluny, I was actually adding the Orthodox and the RCC churches as those churches that have a higher level of knowledge of scripture and history. I just hit the 125ltd. Also, I did not want to divert the post to a RCC/Ortho bashing.

Fact of the Matter there is overwhelming ignorance among the Protestant, Grace evangelical and Baptist churches.

Many because they teach you're save by a 1 minute "ticketpaid" sinners prayer, you will not endure the tribulation and so let's just have pot luck.

The result of that teaching is absolute disrespect and lack of reverence for G-d. Who cares about G-d when you already passed with a guaranteed "A".

WHY STUDY OR CARE IF YOU ALREADY PASSED.
---JOHN on 10/25/10


Most news poles are rigged. They go to places where they will get the answer they want to promote their ideas. This is used to influence the vast undecided to go their way. This is true in politics as well as religion.
A lot of churches don't want their people reading the Bible because it will reveal the error in their traditions, this is what happened with Martin Luther and the Catholic Church.
Still others hold to the mid-evil idea that the common person is to stupid to understand the Word of God, or that a Bible is to Holy to be handled by common sinners.
---Harold on 10/25/10


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Rob, my thoughts are these people are very deceived because they believe because they go to Church on a regular basis, that they are going to heaven when they die. It's totally a deception of the devil.

People who go to church don't read a bible, and some don't even own one. That's why when I went to my Uncle's funeral in 1992, the Catholic church had bibles there you can use, and a note in front that said, "If you are not Catholic, please do not take communion with us."

I wrote a note back to them in pencil and said, "don't worry, I won't." LOL

I was raised a Catholic so I felt I had a right to comment on them excluding me from taking communion with them. It's sooo ironic, don't ya think?
---Donna5535 on 10/25/10


That's a general question. I *guess* there are plenty of people who go to mainstream churches witch have mainly repetition in service. People have the idea that only their priests and pastors can understand the Bible. So, they depend only on listening during service but do nothing with their own Bibles and prayer. So, the TV people could have asked ones in such institutionalized churches, and not where more people would have known. So, who did they ask??

There are little children, I would say, who could have told them, if these children had been asked!
---Bill on 10/25/10


Many institutional churches don't encourage folks to bring their Bibles any more. Apparently, the lastest tradition is to post scripture, if they use it, on an overhead screen.
In general, people have became spectators at institutional churchs rather than participants, similar to going to a football game.
---Rod4Him on 10/25/10


.........Please, just don't judge people for this or that, there is only One who judges and has the right to judge, namely Jesus Christ. God the Father is the One who draws people to God the Son, Jesus Christ. We must keep learning to be patient and understanding, many are called, but few are chosen. We quickly forget that it is the Lord's work, not ours. Strive to grow up in christian maturity, leaving behind the milk food and our spiritual infancy.
God Bless.
---tomaa on 10/25/10


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The congregation I attend has a calander & has daily readings for each day. 3 a day. 1 for morning, afternoon & evening, so in a year you read the OT 2x's and NT once. I thought it was overwhelming at first, now I am excited to dive into the daily readings and read Gods word.This way it isn't just a "Sunday" deal, but everyday. Also it helps you understand reading Gods word when you actually focus on it.
---candice on 10/24/10


MODERATOR - Got this One Right

ROMANS 9,21 For the LORD giveth wisdom, out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

( But it dosen't take alot of knowledge of the Bible to become save,)
---RICHARD on 10/24/10


When I was lost, I probably couldn't have told you the first book of the gospels. But, I knew that Genesis was the first book in the Bible. When I got saved, Genesis was the first book that I turned to. I never understood why an unbeliever would read the Bible, they cannot understand it. Still, some do....In church, when I was lost, the few that I attended, I would open to Scriptures as the preacher would direct, however, the words meant nothing to me, they set there on the page looking at me. Thank God I got saved.
---catherine on 10/24/10


\\HERE'S WHAT I HEARD FROM VARIOUS CHURCH ELDERS...\\

And what churches were these, prithee?
---Cluny on 10/24/10


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It would be interesting to know what Christians were included in this statistical information. A number of them probably attend churches that are no more than "social clubs" with tax exemption. Those attending this type of church are usualy just religious, and not Christians and have not received solid Bible teachings, and probably not interested in Bible teaching.
---wivv on 10/24/10


"more excelent way" You are absolutely correct. The Holy bible has been perverted, our nation has been perverted, our schools are perverted. My grandson told me he was not allowed to say the words "Jesus Christ". Now, isn't that a shame. We need to pray and seek Gods face, repent and ask God to heal our nation. (after we vote the perverted out of office".
---shira3877 on 10/24/10


Most people involve themselves with religious thought only to settle their conscience. They will turn on a Christian t.v. show to listen to a 'pep speech' and redeem their conscience (but only the Holy Spirit can purify a conscience, Hebrews 9:14).

Building attendance is used as a type of 'confessional' in an attempt to make up for all their nastiness/iniquity during the week (compensating for bad behavior/attitudes).

Another problem is LITERACY. Then there are also the many distorted/perverted versions of scripture that exist today. Many of the younger generations of the last 20 years also have a shortened attention span because electronics has reduced the importance of independent and intellectual reasoning (rationality).
---more_excellent_way on 10/24/10


The Bible may be the "best selling" book, but it is far from the most read. People "buy" Bibles for all sorts of reasons.
I may be simply that they think it makes a good addition to their home library. They might read it "someday".

ABC must assume a church is a church is a church.

Millions of people attened "mainline" liberal churches more or less regularly. They may hear an occasional Bible reference,
but IF they remember it at all, they don't remember where in the Bible to find it.
These people, probably including ABC, tend to look askance those who read the Bible regularly and seriously....suspecting they are a bit unbalanced... unless they are actually clergy.
---Donna66 on 10/24/10


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As I stated so many times before...

NEARLY ALL(SO-CALLED)CHRISTIANS ARE ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT OF THEIR FAITH AND JUDISM. THIS IS WILLFUL IGNORANCE

HERE'S WHAT I HEARD FROM VARIOUS CHURCH ELDERS...

1)Question on Abraham... "Was this before he became President?"
2) On Martin Luther.. "I got to say he did a lot for Black people and Civil Rights"
3) Was Jesus a Jew?
4) Well the Jews believe in Jesus don't They?
5) Is God in the Thunder
6) Was Paul an Apostle?
7) How old was Jezebel in Revelation
8) Who did Paul write to?
9) Well the Apostles weren't Jews!
MANY MORE...

Yet a Muslim who thinks the world is flat knows his Quran inside and out. Same with the Orthodox Jews.
---John on 10/24/10


Moderator - Most people don't read a Bible anymore.

For a while, I was confused. The Bible is said to be the "best selling book". Yet, the problems in the USA, and probably in the rest of the world too, show that you might be correct.

If MORE people read the Bible, I think that many of the problems we see around us might have been avoided in the first place.

I'm tired of hearing about all these "newly discovered" solutions to problems in the areas of: Health, Finance, Religion, etc. that are constantly preached in the News, TV, etc. Many of them are only restating what's just in the Bible.
---Sag on 10/24/10


Rob, I believe there is many reasons for people not to have read the whole Bible. One comes of course for lazyness. Second, when a person comes to Christ they are many times directed to read the Gospels first and spend a lot of time in them they never go and read from the beginning. Third, there is those who do not care because they are not truely saved. Forth, many times the preachers or leaders don't know how to teach. They are in the wrong place. And the last one is as the moderator indicated, most people don't read the Bible anymore, or take notes, or even care what God has to say, but it is because they are not born of the Spirit. If they were, they would love to hear about God.
---MarkV. on 10/24/10


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