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Can Genes Cause You To Sin

Our DNA and Genes were given to us by God, along with Free Will. Are some people's genes more likely than others to be weak toward sinning?

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 ---Geraldine on 11/5/10
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By Faith, I surrendered my life to Christ.

Now He is able to KEEP all I have committed unto Him until that Day.

MarkV please stop believing yourself to be God. You cannot look into the heart of man and know who is and isn't saved based on your doctrine.

However if it's the heart that reveals Christ in you, please then examine Calvins murderous heart. You place Your doctrine above the heart. One can have a most evil heart, but if they are calvin..that's ok, there the elect.

PE-YOU-KITTY!





---kathr4453 on 11/28/10


Eloy, the reason you are wrong is that you do not believe in the God of Scripture. You created one that you like. One that you can manipulate and even trash talk about to everyone. In fact one that you can control yourself. God permitted you to do that. He will give you enough rope to hang yourself if that is His will. The same with me, that is why I fear Him. I do not trash Him as you have done. I love and respect Him with all I have. And you even have supporters like Kathr, which does not surprise me. She believes also as you do. That you come to Christ without faith and repentance and commit your life to Him expecting to get all of those things after your commitment. Both of you must be so proud to have Free will.
---Mark_V. on 11/28/10


catherine, there are two G/gods in this world, one with a small g and one with a Cap G.

the god of this world, satan, does not want anyone to hear the Gospel and find salvation through Christ in GOD. They claim they are ALIVE first. How can that be.

They too were dead before hearing the Gospel. They call everyone a liar and lost, saving themselves who simply BELIEVE.

But God said in Romans 4, Abraham believed God. There is nothing there saying Abraham was Born again first before he believed. AND that FAITH is not a work.

There are NO SCRIPTURES showing anyone was born again first before they believed, not even one example in scripture shows us that.


---kathr4453 on 11/28/10


Well, kathr4450>>>Why you here? You don't respect the living God, because, if you did you would not spell His name, as follows>>>g o d . Shame on you, that you too don't know Him. HELL IS HOT FOR YOU.
---catherine on 11/27/10


Yes, David said, he was conceived in iniquity, and the Lord Jesus said that the present generation would have to pay for the sins of their fathers, who had slain the prophets (Luke 11:50).

The Blood of the Lord paid the price for all sins, but we are told to work out our salvation. (Phil 2:12). The apostle Paul said in 1 Corinth 9:27, that he feared lest he preached to others, he would be a castaway. This shows that a person who could accept the Lord can yet lose his salvation. This is also clear in Matthew 7:23-25 and Galatians 6:7.
---zara on 11/28/10




Eloy, Markv was put here to CORRECT you... and me, and Jackb, and alan, and Linda and Miche and LindaS, and Gordon, and cluny, ...

and everyone who are not Calvinists.

god was so concerned with our lies, he sent Markv here to god's rescue, because god's sovereignty was being threatened.

My desire was to share the Gospel of Salvation. To hold UP the Cross, so that Jesus could could draw men unto himself.

But god sent markV to knock down the cross, and to twist my words, and put words in my mouth I never said...speaking over me and others, changing the subject, to draw attention away from the cross to himself...CORRECTING them....or I mean Correcting the Scriptures we post! god sent MarkV to correct God's word.
---kathr4453 on 11/27/10


Geraldine, Personal sin is not organic but a choice, the sinner desires and chooses to disobey before they actually perform their disobedience: "As I live, says the Lord Yhwh, you all will not have any more to use this proverb in Israel: The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge. Note, all souls are mine, as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins it will die. The soul that sins, it will die. The son will not bear the guilt of the father, neither will the father bear the guilt of the son: the righteousness of the righteous will be upon them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon them." Ezk.18:3,2,4,20.
---Eloy on 11/17/10


Eloy, you just didn't get my answer as you do not get the passages concerning God. It was God who moved me to be here. If God was not moving me to learn and be here to correct you, I would be going to play golf or doing something else. He guides me through my life, He gets all the glory, I get nothing, for I cannot do anything good in my life without Christ directing me or giving me the love to do what He desires for me to do. It's called, "walking in the Spirit" If I walk in the flesh, I do the desires of the flesh.
You on the other hand are walking on your own power and will, the desires of the flesh. Separated from God, for all your choices are yours, I suggest for you to walk in the Spirit as much as possible.
---Mark_V. on 11/17/10


Mark, You are deceiving yourself when you refuse the truth that God has given you free will to do whatsoever you choose to do. You have posted that you were given the desire to look up this site and to come visit here to post, therefore you are lying in posting that you do not believe in free will. For how can you not believe that you have free will, when you have just posted that you chose to look up this site and to come visit here and to post your postings?
---Eloy on 11/16/10


Eloy, God directed me to be here on line. He gave me the desire to look up a website and find you here telling everyone that you are sinless and that you believe there is descendants of Adam who are righteous on their own. And He made Himself known to me by revealing Himself to me, with His Word. He also put me here so that I could correct you with Scripture, that you were wrong. He gave me the desire to love Him. He permitted for those things that happen to you with your wife, and to me with mine.
"Of His own will he brought us forth by the Word of Truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creation"
It was the will of God whether you believe it or not.
---Mark_V. on 11/16/10




Part 1
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. greek pneuma neutral noun gentle breath, life giving Spirit.
---david3669 on 11/15/10


Part 2
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not out his out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. greek exaleipho . greek zoe feminine noun the state of one who is possessed of vitality or is animate. greek onoma thought,feeling aroused in the mind, remembering, the name. Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. greek ginosko perceive, have knowledge of. greek oudepote adverb.denying absolutely.Non existence is separation.
---david3669 on 11/15/10


Part 3
Yeshua is the resurrection and life. As God breathed life into Adam The Holy Spirit breaths spirit. Man was make a living soul not a living spirit.Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you LIFE and DEATH, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.Question is one flesh covering spirit or spirit in flesh?
---david3669 on 11/15/10


Part 4

Genetics are a result of the curse of God. That is why there will be the 3rd age You ask as if this physical form determines rebellion. It is not what goes into one that defiles them but what comes out. It matters not, all must be born of water and the Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. God is justice and mercy, views the heart, not genetics. Question believing one can not control themselves, blaming genetics? Is the same as choice?
Read, study, the living word of God. Only God knows the heart. If there are issues that cause bad situations, speak with the Father. Until one receives and answer.
Adam and Eve decided what was good and evil for themselves. Has mankind changed?
---david3669 on 11/15/10


Javier, you are not a robot nor a machine which has no capacity for free will. If you do not believe in the reality of free will, then who or what has programmed you to come to this particular website and write the specific words by you without any of your free will or any of your very own freedom of choice to do so? Javier, by your own free will you freely chose to come here and to post the words that you have posted, just as every single soul who visits here has freely chosen to turn on a computer and to come here.
---Eloy on 11/15/10


Because God is all-knowing and has declared the end from the beginning, does not negate the purpose of his creating. Man is given freewill, and according to his freedom of choice he will either choose God or else not choose God, and by his works he will either be saved or else condemned: those who choose and follow good, get good, and those who choose and follow evil, get evil. "You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created." Rev.4:11.
---Eloy on 11/15/10


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I do not believe in Free Will. I believe in Pre-Destination, Election, Redemption, Regeneration. The Fallen Nature is Sin. In this fallen flesh it has no power no desire 100% total depravity to be able to seek and believe in Jesus Christ. So the Holy Spirit has to take over first so that the process can begin. 100% Jesus Christ doing absolutely everything for our Salvation so that I a fallen creation can not take any Glory for that Awesome Majestic King Jesus Christ.
---Javier. on 11/13/10


The choice to sin is not genetic, but it is proven to be disobedience by abusing ones freedom of choice. A person chooses of their own volition to either do good or else to do evil, to tell the truth or else to fabricate lie, to obey or else to disobey.
---Eloy on 11/14/10


I suppose the answer is yes.

I have read that alcoholism can be a genetic inherited condition.

So, if drunkenness runs in the family, and a person gets addicted to drunkenness, then genes are partly to blame.

Perhaps better for some to never take that first drink if parents had a history of alcohol problems.
---obewan on 11/13/10


The seg --
I agree 100% (Not to worry--I didn't take anything personally). The only illnesses I can think of that are directly related to sin (on the part of somebody) are STDs.
Other illness, who can say? How presumptous for a mere acquaintance to claim to know that someone harbors "unforgiveness" or "self hatered" (both of which, even devoted and healthy Cristians sometimes struggle) As a cancer survivor myself, I can tell you that this approach is not helpful when one is ill.

Everyone sins. But when it comes to recognizing our own sin, it's true we often overlook the most serious ones

Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
---Donna66 on 11/12/10


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Hi I just I reread what I wrote.
I hope you dont feel I was talking about you.
I kind of like some of the things you say. (sometimes, ha ha)

Its just some are so afraid of God, it kind of clouds their judgment.
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.


Adam and Eve try to cover themselves too, it didnt work.
2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

God peace!
---TheSeg on 11/12/10


Yes Donna66!
Even if a particular sin causes a particular sickness.
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

How would you know which one it was?
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Please try to understand and forgive me!
But! You know, what I find sick? Is the lack of sin!
Some find in themselves, the ones!
Who say I dont do that, for its a sin!
Or you should stop doing that, for its a sin!
They cover up one and lack sight of other!
Not seeing the biggest of sins!
Not understanding the smallest of things, themselves!
But do speak!
---TheSeg on 11/12/10


No, the word plainly tells us that we are tempted (any kind of temptation) when we let the flesh rule us. When we are drawn away. We are all subject to sin and have weak times. But, God said in his word when we are tempted..he would indeed make a way for our escape. It is up to us to take that way of escape. We know right from wrong. God is not going to come off of his throne, hallelujah, and grab our hand and make us do right. It is up to us. We all do wrong, but as the word tells us..we have an advocate with our father. Blessed be the name of the Lord.
---judy6696 on 11/12/10


Seg--- I'm glad I'm preaching to the choir!
I understood your point about the tower of
Siloam. I understand //Sin could be the cause and still not be the reason//.
(Though the comment could be a bit abstruse
for some).Of course, all mankind is tainted by sin and suffers the consequences, which may include illness.

Did I not make it clear that my objection was to attributing specific diseases// (ie: cancer = unforgiveness & word curses of self/others, diabeties = self-haterid (sic) to specific sins? See my post of 11/10.
---Donna66 on 11/11/10


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MANY Christians suffer from disease, curses, and demon possession, why if Christ got rid of this?
---Leslie on 11/10/10
Because in Adam all die. We are born into "adam". That is our human flesh. And it is still going to get sick and die because there is still sin in the world even when we don't sin.
This flesh we live in will not be resurrected. We will be given new GLORIFIED Bodies when we are resurrected.

Hence the bible telling us that we LIVE in the world but are NOT of it anymore when we become saved.
---ginger on 11/11/10


LOL!! I LOVE your sense of humor Linda! :D
---Mary on 11/11/10


My jeans cause me to sin. I get angry trying to zip them up.
---Linda on 11/11/10


honestly, there are some jeans that are rather flattering.
---aka on 11/10/10


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Donna66 you're preaching to the choir!
Was I not clear again?
What part of Luke 13:2-4 did I leave out?

Surely you're not saying they didn't sin, right!
In John 9:2-3, for in Roman 3:23 all have sin!
So, they did have sins, right!

Donna66, I'm going to try to say this.
Believe me, I dont know why!
Sin could be the cause and still not be the reason.
The lord said the reason why this man was born blind.
Was so that God would be glorified to all, that see!
And this has not changed with time!

Hey God Bless!
For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
---TheSeg on 11/11/10


The seg -- Job and most people in the OT believed that they could repent for others. But ( I REPEAT) Jeramiah corrects this (Jer 31:29-3- In those days they shall SAY NO MORE, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, HIS teeth shall be set on edge.


No doubt some suffer sickness for spiritual reason. But not all. Jhn 9:2-3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
---Donna66 on 11/10/10


Leslie, why can't you understand that sickness, disease, etc was teh result of a fallen world. We are NOT yet in the NEW heaven and earth.'

So you say a cavity, cold etc is caused by sin and unforgivnes? But isn't it caused by either neglect, germs, or SUGAR.

Can you honestly tell us you NEVER get a cold and have never had a cavity? Really!

You know teh power of teh CROSS, our identification with Christ in death and resurrection life is where TRUTH is.

People will believe/do anything to avoid the CROSS..
---kathr4453 on 11/10/10


Leslie, may God truly bless you, in the lord name I ask this.
But, from what people write or say, is the only way for me.
The truth of God can only come from God!

Ill say this to you, for it is written.
Every mountain shall be made low.
Every valley shall be filled.
Christ is not divided!
Nor can he be, by anyone!

As hard as you try to understand or know him.
By looking at other people, you will fall short.
It is only by looking and knowing yourself.
You will see God. Now you may say these are just idle words.
But, these words were given to me!

No one can stop sinning, yet the lord asked you to stop sinning!
---TheSeg on 11/10/10


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Leslie, you have been blinded by too many books by Derek Prince and those like him. And the reason you believe as you do. While much of what they is truth, the rest is filled with lies and deception. Some of Derek Prince followers came to my Church 15 years ago, and they had this exercisms on children who were only rebellious and they put on a real act as if they were fighting evil spirits. All they wanted to do was to sell their books and brain wash everyone's mind. I bought a book called "Blessing or Curse you choose" it was filled with so many lies. It is no wonder that his ministry the OGM was found to have many abuses within the ministry and were condemned by many.
---Mark_V. on 11/10/10


I can see by ALL of your responses that you ALL are either NOT really saved or in DECEPTION and TWISTING scripture for your own benefit to match your beliefs. I have given many scriptures on this subject, but you do NOT believe them. I guess you ALL think you are God, and know more than God. The reason I know this, is because 1st the Bible says so (that sin is the cause of disease, curses, and demon possession), 2nd I have witnessed 1st hand of Christians being delievered, and the cause was ALWAYS sin and unforgiveness (either by them or someone in their bloodline), 3rd MANY Christians suffer from disease, curses, and demon possession, why if Christ got rid of this?
---Leslie on 11/10/10


Donna66, I agreed only in part.
Why only in part, because of these lines.

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

But! We must look at all the lines there are.

And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

I left the last line out for obvious reasons.
---TheSeg on 11/10/10


The seg--- Actually, I'm aware that mental attitudes affect health and may play a part in disease. What I disagree with is statements like this: // I have even heard that some sickness and disease is rooted in sins (ie: cancer = unforgiveness & word curses of self/others, diabeties = self-haterid (sic).//
There is absolutely no verifiable truth to these assertions and I believe it is most unfair ( and ungodly) to attribute specific sins to someone on the basis of their illness.
---Donna66 on 11/10/10


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Donna66 - You are VERY decieved and may have demons and generational curses in you from all your unrepented of sins, it sounds like to me. REPENT before it is too late.
---Leslie on 11/8/10


Donna66, I didnt see this!
Leslie what a thing to say!
Do you think this doesnt speak for you?

For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.
To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ,
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
---TheSeg on 11/9/10


Leslie, concerning your remarks to Donna, they were very bad. You suggest that if she don't answer to your liking, she must be demonize or just plain not saved when you said,
"Donna66 - You are VERY decieved and may have demons and generational curses in you from all your unrepented of sins, it sounds like to me. REPENT before it is too late."

You should choose your words very carefully, for you can bring judgment on yourself for saying those things to another sister or brother. The advice you give her, you should take yourself to be right with God.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/10


We are in covenant with God throught Jesus, that means He has done His part, now we must do our part for it to be effective.
---Leslie on 11/9/10

Leslie, sounds as though you are in the WRONG Covenant..The covenant I am in is not a conditional If you will then I will.

When we are Crucified with Christ and raised a New creature, our OLD MAN riddled with sin and the curse of decay and death ended at CALVARY.

However remember our old man was NEVER promised anything but death. Our NEW man, when Jesus Comes will be Glorified and we will be LIKE HIM as He is NOW...but not before. Our OLD HOUSE we live in is not being restored back to what it was before Adam sinned.

AGING according to you is a sin!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/9/10


Donna66
Leslie may have a valid point to make.
Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Think about it.

Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
---TheSeg on 11/9/10


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The truth is Jesus died to take away the curse of trying to be saved by the law. ---Leslie on 11/9/10

Leslie, now who is making up scripture. Have you read OT where this was spoken? NO WHERE was there a CURSE of tryng to be saved by the LAW. Where on earth did you read that???

Earthly Blessings for obedience

Earthly curses for disobedience TO ISRAEL ALONE!!!

Other than that in Adam ALL die...can't get any more cursed than that.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/10


leslie-- I said it is not necessary to repent for OTHER PEOPLE'S sins. All I'm asking is that you show how this belief and the belief that illnesses are all caused by sin, line up with Scripture. If you can't show me from the Bible, why should I, or anyone, believe you?
---Donna66 on 11/9/10


No,DNA,or Genes won't make one more prone to sin. In the dark ages of knowledge about how all of that works,before people had done all the research on what causes people to lack self control,there was a wide spread belief in the "Devil Seed" being passed from parent to child. Now they know that is wrong. The main cause of habitual sinning is a lack of real commitment to God. In order to walk with God and become more Godly one must be sold out to God through his son Jesus. When our love of God exceeds our love for things of the world then it becomes very easy not to sin since sin comes from a persons own lust of one kind or another James 1:14 But every man is tempted,when he is drawn away of his own lust,and enticed.
---Darlene_1 on 11/9/10


Donna66 - Do you believe that we are under grace, so there is no need to repent, or that repentance is done away with and not for today? If this is the case, you are NOT lined up with the Bible. Jesus and the church Apostles all taught to repent, and taught us (as believers) to teach the same. If you believe the above question to be true, than you go AGAINST the Bible and are following heresy. I am just wandering because most people that believe that sin being the root of disease and demon possession is not Biblical, they are the ones that believe that repentance is done away with because we are under grace. These people also have sin in their lives and have sickness all the time and may even have demons in them.
---Leslie on 11/9/10


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Kathr4453 & Donna66 you both have TWISTED scripture for your own beliefs. God did not want us to have scripture line up with our beliefs, but our beliefs to line up with scripture. Please get it right. If Jesus died to take away the curse, then why are so many Christians suffering with diseases and demon possession? The truth is Jesus died to take away the curse of trying to be saved by the law. Yes, He took away other curses as well, but we MUST ask to recieve and repent and forgive as the Bible says. If we do not do these things, we make what Jesus did void. We are in covenant with God throught Jesus, that means He has done His part, now we must do our part for it to be effective.
---Leslie on 11/9/10


Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

GENTILES were NEVER under the LAW of Moses!!!

Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


Well here is something one needs to consider. Does Christ HIMSELF set you free, or do you have to cast out curses by hand???

Christ has set me free from SIN and curses.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/10


//The bible tells us that "the curse of the father shall be passed down from generation to generation" and I was the one who got my father's temper and lust.//

donna please give the verse that says CURSES are passed down? I believe it says the sin of the father is passed down.

Well, here we see sin was not passed through e mother. Maybe this is why Jesus , who's Father is GOD and mother is human can be in God's Eyes SINLESS.

In Adam ALL die.



---kathr4453 on 11/9/10


leslie--- Repent of what? .
I won't repent of anything I've said (about not needing to "repent" for other people's sins or that illness doesn't necessarily stem from a one's sins) because I believe my positions are biblical.

If you disagree,don't just accuse me of "having demons"... show the scripture on which you base your beliefs!
---Donna66 on 11/8/10


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Donna66 - You are VERY decieved and may have demons and generational curses in you from all your unrepented of sins, it sounds like to me. REPENT before it is too late.
---Leslie on 11/8/10


That is an interesting question. I've seen terrible parents with wonderful children, and vice versa. I've seen families with many children (same father) where all are different.

I believe a HORRIBLE mistake any parent can say to a Child....You're just like your father (that is if the father is or has issues)

I believe much of that is by learning. If a single mother lived out before her daughter a immorial life...chances are her daughter will have very gray boundries of right and wrong on moral issues as well.

Child abuse is also LEARNED. And many children who grew up abused DO NOT abuse their children.

So NO, Sin is not genetic!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/8/10


The bible tells us that "the curse of the father shall be passed down from generation to generation" and I was the one who got my father's temper and lust.

His demons became my demons when his genes conceived me. I've had a bad temper since I was little and I struggled with lust until those demons of lust were casted out of me.

Now, since my deliverace of a spirit of anger and lust, I let things slide, ignore things, don't get angry anymore and I don't date and that keeps me from lusting. And I don't watch any unclean movies or TV shows nor do I listen to seductive music and I walk away from anything I see that I don't want to look upon (like the naughty magazines in a store in the mall). That's why I shop on-line now.
---Donna5535 on 11/8/10


Geraldine: NO! Sin isn't physical. DNA & genes are the building blocks of our "physical bodies". Sin is a spiritual condition caused by willful disobedience to God. Adam chose (made up his mind) to sin & it has significantly impacted our physical, death-doomed bodies ever since. Bible evidence shows physical DNA nor genes haven't a thing to do with our predisposition to sin from generation-to-generation.

I agree Bill Keckler & Rhoda: Romans 1... does answer the question. Our mind (will, emotions & intellect) is our "spirit man" that's housed in our physical body (brain). It's a matter of spiritual warfare & Scripture says we don't wrestle against flesh & blood.
---Leon on 11/7/10


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leslie-- There is NO Need to repent for the sins of an ancestor of any other person.

Jer 31:29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.


Furthermore, the cause of disease is NOT usually sin. That was commonly believed in the OT but Jesus denied it (See Jn 9:2-3) Some churches teach this, but it is a cruel falsehood spread like an urban myth. There is absolutely no data to back up the idea. It's hard enough to be ill without suffering accusations of sin by others, like Job's comforters.
---Donna66 on 11/6/10


The Scripture simply tells us this:

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die...

1 Kings 8:46 When they sin against You (for there is no one who does not sin)

By the way, there's no such thing as God gave man a "free-will". As Martin Luther says, "Apart from grace, 'free-will' by itself is Satan's kingdom in all men."
---christan on 11/6/10


Some people because of their genes have an excitable nature, or argumentative, or angry. Some are more peaceful.

Is it possible that the former may be more likely to remain in rebellion against God?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/6/10


Sag - I am NOT blamming anything on Satan or disease. I am saying that disease and demon possession is rooted in SIN (sin is the cause). If we can repent of sin, and forgive, then we will have less disease and demon possession in the body. This is what the Bible says.
---Leslie on 11/6/10


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The physical gene can't make you sin, I would say. But it might cause a characteristic that you use as an excuse to sin.

For example, let's say a guy has blue eyes, and a girl likes him because she prefers blue eyes. Another guy with green eyes could be jealous because she does not want him, and his jealousy would be a sin. His green eyes did not make him jealous and unloving.

Someone might have a gene for slow metabolism so the person easily puts on weight. But the gene does not make the person choose to eat more than the person needs and eat poorly nutritious things.
---Bill on 11/6/10


This is a great question. Modern science would like you to believe such things are genetic, indeed in a sense they are...we all came from Adam and have his DNA to blame for how we are. I'm a skeptic of such things, because we are moved by what we choose to be influenced by. Also because I've seen (as I'm sure have you) children from the same family who are night and day in everything from social customs to religious belief.

I tend to believe that these things are irrelevant in light of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and I know you do too, people sin because it's how were made, and the only remedy is a close walk with God
---Pharisee on 11/6/10


Too easy Ginger -- at your service. First, type "angle brackets" <>. In between the brackets type the word "marquee". Next, type the smiley face or whatever you want. Again, type "angle brackets". This time between them type "forward slash" / then the word "marquee". Leave no spaces between the aforementioned & have fun! TA-DA!!! :)
---Leon on 11/6/10


"Are some people's genes more likely than others to be weak toward sinning?" No.
All humans are born with an innate predisposition towards the carnality of our thinking, and act or respond accordingly. That predisposition inclines us towards the error of a reliance upon the dictates and passions of this sensually based system of things. Until the mind is renewed through the Word, Spirit, and Power of The Father, one tends to focus on and be led by the adornments and deceptive pleasures of that system. Man is weakest, as concerning sin, in that which represents his innermost desire in contradiction or opposition to the Father's principles for life.
---Josef on 11/6/10


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ALL people have DNA of sin from birth - Romans 3:10-18,23. Some people also have generational curses in their bloodline of sins committed by people in their family passed down to them (ie: alcoholism) - Exodus 34:7, Number 14:18. ALL of it is rooted in sin, and MUST be repented of (even if it was your family member and not you that did it) - repent of these sins from Adam and Eve up through eternity and break it. I have even heard that some sickness and disease is rooted in sins (ie: cancer = unforgiveness & word curses of self/others, diabeties = self-haterid).
---Leslie on 11/5/10

It often seems that people "try" to blame a "disease", or even Satan, for their own, willfully performed, SINS.
---Sag on 11/5/10


I'll do my best on this one, Jesus, please help me! We all have weakness, which Satan can play on. Does not matter of your education, or your IQ. We all have weaknesses which Satan LOVES TO [PLAY ON]. Some more than others. Sin was past down to us through Adam and Eve. We are inheritors.
---catherine on 11/5/10


Is it nature or nurture? This is the ongoing unanswered questions for many aspects of human behaviour.

For example is somone "geneticaly disposed" to be a sociopath? Or is it a function of how they were raised?

Either way, we are all responsible for our own actions and ultimatly we must assume responsibility for our own decisions. Good or bad, right or wrong, evil or good.

James 1:14-15, "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."
---Bruce5656 on 11/5/10


ALL people have DNA of sin from birth - Romans 3:10-18,23. Some people also have generational curses in their bloodline of sins committed by people in their family passed down to them (ie: alcoholism) - Exodus 34:7, Number 14:18. ALL of it is rooted in sin, and MUST be repented of (even if it was your family member and not you that did it) - repent of these sins from Adam and Eve up through eternity and break it. I have even heard that some sickness and disease is rooted in sins (ie: cancer = unforgiveness & word curses of self/others, diabeties = self-haterid).
---Leslie on 11/5/10


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it is a carnal mind that is enmity (against) God (Rom 8:6-7)

this is why those who do not have Gods Truth cannot comprehend why one would/could obey God with their free will

it is by the POWER of Gods Holy Spirit working within our minds that guides us into obedience when we submit to Gods Holy just and perfect laws

in physical form we will always have the pull of sin as Apostle Paul described ...it is our ability to recognize remove ourselves pickup and resolve to overcome

no one person is "weaker" in sin ...however some "sins" affect one person and not another

which is why when you break one law (sin against God) you break them all
---Rhonda on 11/5/10


very funny, leon! Ha.
This is a matter of speculation. Nobody can know for sure. It does seem that some people have a predisposition to certain sins. If their forebearers suffered from the same, we still don't know if this tendency is genetically passed or aquired by unconscious imitation from generation to generation.

But this much we do know: (1Cr 10:13) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
---Donna66 on 11/5/10


Leon, how did you do that? That is awesome, brother!
---ginger on 11/5/10


Only if they're too tight Geraldine!

:)
---Leon on 11/5/10


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I think it is written in Romans chapter one where judgement on certain sins are mentioned. In that chapter the Apostle states that God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are unseemly. It doesn't state how He gives them over but the Creator certainly knows how to place things in our DNA or in our Genes. And it is also stated elsewhere that God places the sin's of the fathers onto the children up to the third and forth generations of those who aren't His..

Wow, this is a tuff question, I don't think I will comment any more but I will certainly look forward to reading most of these posts..
---Bill_Keckler on 11/5/10


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