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Is there a natural Christian Diet that can help someone with Diabetes and Obesity?

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John, as I see it Jesus, our Creator, is the creator of nature, and all that is good. If we stick as close as possible to eating that which is of His creation then disease will be far less common. A diet of Christ's creation is Christian and obviously the best for mankind. What human could produce such perfect food?

Let us reject the world and all that is unnatural in favour of all that is His.

On the strength of this I think I will go and eat a big fat mango!
---Warwick on 11/17/10

I agree! But the question posted, does not concern that.

It's a question about a Holistic diets to treat Diabetes/Obesity. Then attempts to make it "Christian".

It indicates to me that the questioner is nothing more than a Carnal Psuedo Christian. Willing to intertwine Christianity with the world.

She is the type who, when discussing Fasting for G-d. Would immediately point out the healthly assets of fasting and body cleensing. WHY??? Because that is as deep a spirit you get with a Clueless Carnal Psuedo Facade.

It is offensive to G-d to post this deception. The poster should have be honest and simply ask for diet. Don't add "Christian ". Its demeaning to Christ. HE WAS NOT A CHEF!
---JOHN on 11/17/10

John our Creator created everything there is and initially proscribed that we have a vegetarian diet, only allowing the consumption of meat after the flood. What he created is natural, obviously, and healthy. Therefore a diet made up of natural foods (as opposed to such tocic substances as Coke, Maccers, fat soaked chips, and the whole gammut of chemicalized foods) is God's diet, for us. Quite Christian indeed as Christ is that Creator.

Should we by intent or neglect destroy the wonderful bodies He has given us? Certainly not.
---Warwick on 11/17/10

I am sure you can google or bing this topic. But my thoughts are: eat lean meat,fish, vegs,fruits,whole grain bread, drink moderate water,moderate dairy products, very little pork and red meat, limit sugar and salt. Include olive oil,canola oil in diet is a good alternative. Include moderate amounts of nuts like peanuts,cashews. Also include seeds like sesame,sunflower and so forth. I would include a vitamin/mineral tablet about 3-4 times per week, for good measure.
---Robyn on 11/17/10

Then again...

I'm wonderimg why this blog exist in the 1st place since there no such thing as a "Christian Diet" and this blog has nothing AT ALL to do with scripture.

I don't remember Jesus being a Chef. Although He did cook breakfast for his Apostles once.
---John on 11/17/10

"The reading you reccomend is old school and mostly invalid.

There has been major new discoveries on treatment and causes for this disease." (John)

The scientific approach of the Primal blueprint is vaild, although I will admit that one can survive on any diet and each must follow a lifestyle that best suites them. However, the currect ideology dissed out by conventional wisdom (i.e., eat lots of whole grain, limit fat, limit meat) is simply based on bad science and old school of thought. New evidences are emerging showing how limiting carbs (rely on fruits and veg only), increasing fat/meat (relying on fat or energy), and doing Intermittent Fasting can a have a huge postive impact on the health.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 11/17/10

Ignatius, thank you for your comments. I have held to a healthy life style of good (mostly) natural foods and vigorous exercise most of my adult life. I am now 67 years of age with the same (low) weight I had as a teenager with the same blood pressure. My pulse rate is about 50bpm and I can still climb mountains at a reasonable pace and run 5k in about 22 minutes. I take no drugs, other than the odd Aspirin. A natural lifestyle sure has its rewards! I can recommend it.

It is about discipline.
---Warwick on 11/16/10

Type 2 Diabetes MAY be due to too much sugar, but some people who eat the average American diet with all its sugar, NEVER get Diabetes...even if they live to be 90 and are overweight. It all depends on the pancreas producing insulin of the right amount and type. Genetics is known to play a part.

The brain and entire body chemistry, respond to a higher than normal glucose level in the blood. If the glucose is high enough, diabetic coma results. If one takes insulin and does not eat sufficient food (or burns too much), blood glucose can rapidly drop to a life-threatening level .

Thus, diabetics who take medication esp. insulin, should not change their diet without seeing their Dr.
---Donna66 on 11/16/10

Good point Cluny,

Ignatius, The reading you reccomend is old school and mostly invalid.

There has been major new discoveries on treatment and causes for this disease.

There are many types of diet to choose from now. Some of these diets are high carb.

But the latest breakthrough is the Raw Vegetables for 30 day diet. Which has cured this disease.
---John on 11/16/10

"a diet over abundant in sugars overtaxes the pancreas causing it to eventually fail. " (Warwick)

Exactly. That is why more and more doctors/nutritional experts are recommending a low carb (max 150 grams) high fat, and moderate protein for weight loss, vibrate health, diabetes control, among many other things. The Standard American Diet (consisted of processed foods, sugar, highly oxidized vegetable oils, grains/whole grains combine with saturated fats, etc) is the reason why many are obese, diabetic, have high blood pressure, lack of energy, etc.

Great books about this is Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, Life without Bread by Christian Allan, The Primal Blueprint by Mark Sission, etc.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 11/16/10

John as I understand it age-onset diabetes is but a product of poor western diet combined with a sedentary life style. Obesity is a side-product.

My reading shows that a diet over abundant in sugars overtaxes the pancreas causing it to eventually fail. If we eat excessive amounts of sugar our pancreas releases insulin into the blood-stream to reduce the sugar levels. The common sugar/simple carbohydrate diet of western people is the cause of obesity, age-onset diabetes and countless other conditions and diseases. Cut out the sugar and this problem does not occur.
---Warwick on 11/16/10

\\It is caused by obesity.\\

This is an oversimplification. It could be that diabetes may cause--or increase--obesity, rather than the other way around.

My hypothesis: With Type 2, the body doesn't make enough insulin, or the right kind, to help the glucose (which most of what we eat becomes) to get to the cells to give them the fuel to do their cellular business. So they send a collective signal of being hungry to the brain.

I know a man who is not overweight and yet has diabetes.

Obviously, getting one's weight down will help with managing diabetes, hypertension, and other ailments--but it's not a panacea.
---Cluny on 11/16/10

John if excessive regular consumption of sugar does not cause age-onset diabetes, what does?
---Warwick on 11/16/10

It is caused by obesity. The larger fat cells inhibit the absorption of Insulin.
As time moves on this eventually reaches the point where you have insulin resistant cells causing Type II diabetes
---John on 11/16/10

John if excessive regular consumption of sugar does not cause age-onset diabetes, what does?
---Warwick on 11/16/10

Leslie -- documented by whom? If true, this is a stunning medical breakthrough that somehow the entie medical profession has missed.
---Donna66 on 11/15/10

John--//Type 2 diabetes is easily cured by going on a one month raw vegetable diet
I beg to differ, no matter what your book says. Diabetes is not "easily cured". Such a diet MAY reverse type 2 diabetes in SOME cases . But the diabetic...especially if taking oral medication or insulin...MUST consult with their physican.
SOME type 2 diabetics DO take insulin. And if their dose of insulin is not adjusted, such a diet could prove deadly.
---Donna66 on 11/14/10

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Cluny -- not eating cheeseburgers or meat and dairy products at the same meal anytime (that includes cream in your coffee or whipped cream on your dessert). There is a lot more to it, if you really want to eat kosher. You need two sets of dishes, one for meat meals and one for dairy meals. Your meat must be declared kosher and be killed by draining it of blood.
To eat strictly kosher is so complicated that even among Jews, it is rarely done anymore.
---Donna66 on 11/12/10

Donna66 - I get this info from a book by Perry Stone called "12 Secrets of the Jews". In this Biblical based book he shows documented medical proof that eating Kosher takes away diabeties and cancer, along with other such diseases.
---Leslie on 11/12/10

John -- You are right. SUGAR does not cause DIABETES. But sugar, if one is diabetic, DOES cause a high level of glucose (sugar) in the blood. This is what causes the organ, nerve and eye damage of diabetics (also diabetic coma if high enough)

A normal person secretes enough insulin for the body to burn all the sugar it takes in.
---Donna66 on 11/12/10

You might try the original diet given to man by God:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.
---jerry6593 on 11/12/10

jerry, that reminds me of something I heard recently. A man busted for marijuana in CA used that same argument.

The Judge said, Well, that's between you and God, however in the state of CA, marijuana is ILLEGAL!!
---kathr4453 on 11/12/10

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You might try the original diet given to man by God:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.
---jerry6593 on 11/12/10

\\Try eating a Korsher diet.\\

If you're trying to say "kosher," this is by definition Jewish, and therefore not Christian.

The only thing about it is eliminating pork and shellfish, and not eating cheeseburgers.
---Cluny on 11/12/10

I know for me, I have cut down on the amount of meat that me and my children eat each week.
Maybe 3 times a week. And I stress maybe. I have switched us over to more beans, rice, and added more veggies(we always had them and my kids love them, so we eat much more).
And it has done wonders for me and my kids. Being that I am 39, it gets harder to lose weight. I tell you with this change, I have lost weight, almost 2 dress sizes and I feel much better. No stomach problems at all any more.
Oh, and we have cut out drinking sodas too.
Water, milk, koolaid, decaf tea and for me, decaf coffee.
---ginger on 11/11/10

Type 2 diabetes is easily cured by going on a one month raw vegetable diet.
There is a book on that diet.

Also take cinnamon, coffee, and Garlic.

In general the Mediterranean diet is a good diet.

Remember.. Sugar does NOT cause diabetes.

Good Luck!
---John on 11/11/10

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Leslie-- Without a doubt eating kosher is healthy and "biblical" ..since we learn it from the Bible.
But if you can't document that Jews who keep kosher don't have diabetes, or that a kosher diet cures cancer, then you had best not state these ideas as fact. Medical authorities overwhelmingly disagree. Morover, a type I diabetic or cancer patient could cause themselves great harm (or even death) if they depended on a kosher diet in place of the treatment prescribed by their M.D.
---Donna66 on 11/11/10

I might add that the Orthodox regimen of fasting and abstinence has most days in the year where meat and animal products are NOT used.

And most dieticians say that Americans eat too much meat, anyway.
---Cluny on 11/11/10

A high Fat, moderate Protein, and Low Carb (50-150 grams) is the best. Get rid of sugar, grains, processed food and focus on healthly fat sources (butter, extra virgin olive oil, extra virgin coconut oil, fatty meats- makes sure it is either grassfed or no added horomones/antibiotics) (make fat 50-60% of your total calories), vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. Also take 1-3 grams of fish oil (EPA + DHA) if not buying grassfed meats

Please research about the Primal Blueprint. There have been many articles/books written debuking the modern day myth that Saturated Fat and Dietary Cholesterol found in animal products cause heart disease, cancer, etc, and proving the science behind a high fat paleo way of eating.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 11/11/10

As a diabetic (and an RN), I know that diabetics must limit carbohydrates (sweets, bread, noodles, rice, potato and to some extent, fruit.) A diabetic (Type I) is taking insulin and may get into BIG trouble by following any diet that does not adhere to this principle. Type II diabetics should follow the same guide lines, but a low calorie weight loss diet my be especially valuable. In some cases weight loss eliminates type II diabetes.

"Natural" or Christian" diets are in no way superior for the diabetic, if he does not limit carbs.
---Donna66 on 11/11/10

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Try eating a Korsher diet. This is Biblical, and natural, and has kept the Jewish people healthy since their existance. It has also cured alot of diseases such as Diabetes and Cancer.
---Leslie on 11/11/10

The so-called Diabetic Diet is the same as the recommended balanced diet for everybody as determined by the ADA.

And why are diets necessarily Christian or any other religion? Did you think they were?
---Cluny on 11/11/10

Absolutely, it's called moderation and exercise.

Dietary- you have to get off of the processed junk and eat whole foods. Many will send you toward the south beach diet and such but I don't believe that is something that'll work long term. Here's why, you can make that change for now, but when you switch back to regular food (if you do- I would) you have to make the needed adjustments then anyway.

Better to just make the commitment to cook your own meals and have a salad often with it, eat prescribed portions and get some exercise before you eat. A 20 minute walk is a great start. Drink lots of water and get plenty of fiber to help you feel full.
---Pharisee on 11/11/10

While I don't feel qualified to suggest a diet for someone who has diabetes, here's one for obesity. Learn to do pushups - pushup from the table. Food to the body is like gas to a car - the performance depends on the quality. You need to eat a balanced diet, with the largest meal of the day being breakfast, followed by a light lunch at noon and a very light supper. For snacks, if needed, you should eat fruit. You also have to remember that you have to exercise. (Always get a doctor's permission before starting any exercise program.) Not only does exercise burn calories, it also helps the metabolism.
Proper intake of food will cause you to lose weigth on a permanet bases as long as you continue with proper nutrition.
---wivv on 11/11/10

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