Explain Parable Of The Sower
If people can't lose their salvation, please explain the Parable of the Sower? Sounds like another person can't take you out of the hand of God, however you have a choice to turn your back on God? If not please explain because I know too many people that have turned their back on God.
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---John on 11/22/10
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-- John :
Brother, The Parable of the Sower is not revealing that a person can lose their Salvation just b/c you've known too many people that have turned their back on God. Realize the Truth that not everyone who says Lord Lord is of the Lord !!!
Parables are given unto us to know the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, through "the Principal thing of Wisdom and with all our getting of seeds, we're to get Understanding".
While the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven are not given to them who just happily believe & receive the seeds of God but do not depart from evil, b/c they by hearing shall hear & not Understand(Job 28:28), and seeing shall see & not perceive the Truth that is before them.
---ShawnM.T. on 1/9/11|
PROVERBS 21:16 If the man that wandereth out way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead ( These people have never truly become saved - The sheep hear the master call and follow)
---RICHARD on 11/25/10|
It is not the hearer or the judge that is justified, It is the doer. Those who do, recognize and acknowledge the foundation, source and empowerment of that ability. Their focus remains on Him, and His Word becomes an essential part of who they are. Not through their own force of will, or what they may consider their own ability, but rather through the direct Divine inspiration and influence of the Father. Those who would "turn their back" on Him, has never truly known Him.
---Josef on 11/23/10|
John, as Christian explained, parables are to be understood by believers only. First of all salvation is not about what man does or will do in the future. It is about what God does. Everything you read concerning salvation has to be within the Context of the Covenant of Grace.
"And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit within you, "and cause you to walk in My statutes and be careful to obey My rules"
It is not about what we do or want to do, as you say, leave. People are been moved by God not only to walk in His statutes but to obey by the power of God.
---Mark_V. on 11/23/10|
I don't see any mention of losing one's salvation in the Parable of the Sower. I see no reason to add that to God's words. He said what He wanted to say, and He didn't mention losing salvation within Matt 13:18-23 or Luke 8:5-15.
The parable is primarily about fruit bearing, not salvation. The only mention of salvation is with the first group, which never understand, much less believe, in the first place (Luke 8:12).
I believe a great many self-styled Christians would fall within that first group, since they refuse to repent of trusting themselves and their own works.
---Chris on 11/22/10|
Isa 55:10-13...Luke 8:12-15. The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard, then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root, they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away. And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature. As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bear fruit with patience.
fruit of the Spirit.
---aka on 11/22/10|
Luk 19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
---micha9344 on 11/22/10|
this is is about the word of God and how people received it.The sower sow the seeds and people received the word with gladness but Satan come immediately, and take away the word that was sown in their hearts since this has no roots in themselves.(seeds sown on stony ground).And there are sown among thorns- but the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things,choke the word, and it become unfruitful.while there are which sown on good ground,they hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruits.
turning our back on God is by choice.But no matter what we do-God will never turn his back on us.But we have to know that every sin has consequences.Just as a father discipline his child so is God to us
---mj on 11/22/10|
This parable is about the heart of man. Why? Simple. Jesus declared in Matthew 13:11, Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." And how? John 3:3, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
This points clearly to predestination and election of a saint who will be justified by faith. John 6, 37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out." 44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day."
---christan on 11/22/10|
Salvation is a one time future eventwhich happens at thetime when jesus comes and the dead in christ rise, and those who are alive in christ are changed.
In the mean while, people are free to walk with God and then turn back ( backslide)
Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
If it is NEARER then we do not yet have it.
---francis on 11/22/10|
Hi Darlene, I am familiar with the scriptures, but wanted the question answered and of course based on the scriptures. Cluny please give more information. Thanks.
---John on 11/22/10|
Matthew 24:12,13 And because iniquity shall abound,the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end,the same shall be saved. When we repent of our sins we begin on our journey with Jesus but that is not a one day experience,it is a lifetime of obedience to God by living each day for him. The initial salvation experience is often called "getting saved" but it doesn't end with that it only begins with it. Read 2Peter2:17-22: 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness,than after they have known it,to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
---Darlene_1 on 11/22/10|
Isn't the conversion experience how we are first brought to the Lord and therefore saved IE we have our salvation in Christ?
---John on 11/22/10|
People don't lose their salvation.
But many people confuse salvation with a conversion experience.
We are not saved until we are in heaven.
---Cluny on 11/22/10|