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False Teacher Deserve Death

Romans 1:18-25 teaches about False Teachers, those who give their approval to False Teachers, and how they deserve death.
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Trav, both you and michael _e can't get out of Matthew. Gentiles were never promised a KING.
---kathr4453 on 12/23/10


Well, Jewish teacher of all who will bow to your teaching and all CAP's yelling. Ur not even scriptural above actually. Note on your docpad that: It is What We get Out of Matthew....not that we can't get out. Matthew, actually Christ makes some very clear statements that most are scared to death to address. Because homemade soup doctrine can't allow/tolerate them. Pretty scary....(take a pause to look around) when Christ's statements don't align....with your doc-trine.
Matt 15:24/10:6,1 Chronicles 16:17
And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant
---Trav on 12/27/10


Trav, both you and michael _e can't get out of Matthew.

Matthew is concerning Christ the KING..the KING promised to Israel. Gentiles were never promised a KING.

WHEN Matthew is fulfilled to Israel after the tribulation Christ will reign as KING.

At that time the FINAL Fulfillment of the New Covenant Promises TO ISRAEL the NATION will be fulfilled.

Ezekiel 36...
---kathr4453 on 12/23/10


And you want to lecture me about not believing scripture?
---kathr4453 on 12/22/10

These scriptures I post are never about unchangable you. They are for Sheep. Sheep that will compare and look. You won't listen to one that rose from the dead..or the prophets that preceded him. I would not convceive you'd look at my pointing.
Matt 15:24/10:6.
Shhhhheeeep.
---Trav on 12/22/10


Lets discuss my other beliefs too. //I believe/know kathr doesn't believe/honor/obey...Prophets,Apostles or Christ.//
---Trav on 12/22/10

Trav, are you now a prophet I must obey?

If someone speaks a lie, then Trav I don't have to believe anything they say.

I also believe according to all you listed above that the FLOOD killed all but 8 souls. You do not.

And you want to lecture me about not believing scripture?
---kathr4453 on 12/22/10


TRAV, who exactly are these first inhabitants created AFTER GOD, both male and female.
God is neither male or female.
The Bible never speaks of them.
---kathr4453 on 12/21/10

Well sometimes I suspect they were your cousins. You know the ones Cain married into. Perhaps the ones Noah was undefiled with....but, the rest of the Adamites were.
As I stated it is an unknown whether true or untrue. You are unable to prove it wrong....I'm unable to prove it right. It's a question to be answered....for some.

Lets discuss my other beliefs too. //I believe/know kathr doesn't believe/honor/obey...Prophets,Apostles or Christ.//
---Trav on 12/22/10




Trav ... Please be clear. What do you think the Bible means. You ppear to say that only Jews and gentiles can get to heaven.

And you dsfine gentiles as sons of Israel.

Since there are those races not descended from Israel, are you saying that some races will be excluded?
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/21/10


TRAV, who exactly are these first inhabitants created AFTER GOD, both male and female. God is neither male or female. So what is this IMAGE they were created to be?

Where are they now. They didn't sin, so did not inherit original sin from Adam. Are they still alive roaming the earth? Can't be angels, as they are not male or female either.

Can't be dead either! Because only those in Adam all die. Can't be redeemed.

Alians maybe? The blob from the lagoon? Are they the ones,
" The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" was made after?

Maybe FREDDIE?

Who are those guys anyway? Are you one of them, and that is how you know?

The Bible never speaks of them.
---kathr4453 on 12/21/10


I'm not realy clear n what trav believes. First he believes more people were created after Adam and Eve, and other odd things. ---kathr4453 on 12/18/10

Let me help you a little...on what I believe. I believe/know kathr doesn't believe/honor/obey...Prophets,Apostles or Christ. I believe kathr memory is transposed. Genesis list two creation accounts 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
Gen 2:7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
Theory: is possible that Adam was created after the first inhabitants. Don't know yet...but, will.
---Trav on 12/21/10


.. Alan's question on revelation, it appears TRAV is one who is saying this.
I'm not realy clear n what trav believes. First he believes more people were created after Adam and Eve, and other odd things. ---kathr4453 on 12/18/10

It is not for me to say what Prophets,Apostles and Appointed men of GOD have already said....it is for me to point. Now the mission was Sheep/Orphans/Widows in need.
Sheep? Micah 2:12
I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee, I will surely gather the remnant of Israel, I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah, as the flock in the midst of their fold: they shall make great noise by reason of the multitude of men.
Hosea 12:12
...Israel served for a wife, and for a wife he kept sheep.
---Trav on 12/21/10


Kathr, today is a different day and today I will apologize to you. because as I see when you give and answer, you mix the truth with a lie when you give opinion only. Anyone can make a mistake in spelling or state a comment where it sounds different then what you meant. I can understand those kinds of mistakes. But by not giving Scripture when you make points by opinions, You overule other passages that speak against you. That is why I ask you for Scripture. And all we get is opinions put together to form some kind of theology. Also as someone said here, you never answer to the Scriptures given to you.
---Mark_V. on 12/21/10




I know Alan, they have appointed themselves Judge, Jury AND Executioner...Who can fight against them? So Revelation states.

MarkV, your nonbilbical arguments against scripture you alone will have to give an account to God for.

Your TWISTING and lying to make yourself look, hummm what? What exactly are you hoping GOD sees in that?

So you need to TWIST our words AND Gods? Why, what do you hope to accomplish? A crown in Heaven? Hardly! You have to run the race HONESTLY to receive an incorruptable crown. Yet you want a corruptable one? WHY?
---kathr4453 on 12/21/10


Kathr, I take your apology with an open heart. Sorry I cannot apologize for the things you write concerning me and others here who don't agree with your theology. You make a lot of statments that are not Scriptural and I do not apologize for answering for the Truth. I put Scripture down, and all you do is give your opinions and they are not Scriptural. Next time put the passages down. Opinon's are only good when you answer divorce, politics etc, and other personal questions.
---MarkV. on 12/20/10


Kathr ... I agree there was overeaction after the original upset.

And it is quite different matter when it comes to unruths about us isn't it???
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/20/10


Alan , thank you I saw I did not put a questionmark.

Now you did read my post before that, the one Robyn totally mis-quoted me and mima jumped on the aband wagon. That was perfectly stated AND STILL I got trashed for something I never said.

So, whether your careful, or in a hurry, only certain people will OBSESS until they make themselves sick.

I know I do get in a hurry and I appreciate your request to be more careful.

LOVE looks for truth, and will seek it out.

I also APOLOGIZED.

MarkV, with your trouble with the english language we all give you the benifit if the doubt in many of your posts.

Stop looking for things to condemn...

Let's get on sharing Jesus Christ OK!!
---kathr4453 on 12/20/10


This are my thoughts as the question ask, the blind leading the blind is the way I put it. Two people who only talk but don't take the time to study.
---Rose on 12/19/10


Kathr ... It just goes to show how careful you have to be when composing a post. We are all perhaps sometimes a bit careless

Your sentence appeared to say very clearly that Mark falsely taught salvation is Only for the Israel, ...

No wonder Mark objected!

Perhaps you should have written: "MarkV ... WHO falsely teaches salvation is Only for the Israel, or I said Jews instead of Israel?"

Mark would have known you were just asking the question.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/18/10


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And yes, MarkV, I can understnd how you misunderstood what I asked. I apologize. You read it as a statement rather than a question. That was clearly my fault.

After seeing Alan's question on revelation, it appears TRAV is one who is saying this.

I'm not realy clear n what trav believes. First he believes more people were created after Adam and Eve, and other odd things.

So, maybe that is the answer.





---kathr4453 on 12/18/10


Many of those people who have fallen for false doctrines are those who think salvation is only for the Israel.
---Mark_V. on 12/11/10


MarkV stated this above, I asked markV "WHO teaches/says salvation is only for the Israel.'

I should have ended the question with a ?????. and because I didn't you misread my question...But I will ask you again with a???? at the end.

WHO teaches/thinks/says salvation is only for the Israel??????


Who teaches/says this MarkV??? You said MANY. I asked WHO??????
---kathr4453 on 12/18/10


Kathr ... You have clearly somehow misread Mark.

He has never taught that salvation is for Jews only.

He has often said the opposite.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/18/10


Kathr again speaks falsely, for I never said that I believe what she quoted,

"MarkV WHO falsely teaches salvation is Only for the Israel"

You again lie as always. There is no truth in you.
---Mark_V. on 12/18/10


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Many of those people who have fallen for false doctrines are those who think salvation is only for the Israel.
---Mark_V. on 12/11/10

I was commenting on markv straw man here. Thank you all again for correctly reading what I said.

MarkV WHO falsely teaches salvation is Only for the Israel, or I said Jews instead of Israel.

Even in the OT gentiles had faith in God. Job for one.

I think 99% of fights here are caused by people who cannot read. And others who don't go and investigate if a person REALLY said it.

I forgive you all. But can we please learn a lesson here and research if someone REALLY said what someone said they said?
---kathr4453 on 12/14/10


Bro. Christian, your answer is so true. Romans 1:18-25 is not teaching concerning false teachers, there is many other passages that do, but not here. It is talking about God revealing, or making known, His wrath against all ungodliness and unrighteousness.
---Mark_V. on 12/14/10


\\Matt.15 v 9. Beginning with the Man - made rcc & her offspring daughters churches, including those that worship the gods of buddha, muslim, hindu etc. If they don't repent, they send them selves to the lake.
---Lawrence on 11/26/10\\

Unless you're Orthodox, Lawrence, YOUR religion is man-made, too, and you fall under your own curse.
---Cluny on 12/13/10


Romans 1:18-25 describes the world's problems that's basically caused through suppression of the truth and unbelief in God's Word. It's not specifically about false teachers. A man on his own by virtue of his sinful nature, will not belief in God. Therefore all mankind are deserving of the wrath of God, which is death.

As for God's people whom He has chosen to be Christians, His wrath fell on His Son at Calvary on behalf of His people that they will receive Christ's righteousness through faith in Christ.
---christan on 12/13/10


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Proverbs 13:1 (N.I.V.)
The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down.
---Allan_McDougall on 12/13/10


Mima ... You are WRONG

Robyn was WRONG

Kathr did NOT say she "had never heard salvation was for the Jews"

You should be more careful before you endorse mis-statements
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/13/10


---Robyn on 12/12/10 has a post which is correct.
---mima on 12/13/10


Robyn ... Kathr did not say she "had never heard salvation was for the Jews"

She said she had not heard "that salvation is only for Jews"

That little word "only" makes a lot of difference!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/12/10


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does anybody really read and understand other posting before they go on a tirade:

//I've never in my life heard that salvation is only for Jews.// ---kathr4453

//Kathr4453: Your comment that you had never heard salvation was for the Jews is really sad,// --- Robyn

That is not what she said. is our own view more important that the Truth?

BTW - Jesus clearly made a distinction between Jews and Jews of lip service. Salvation is not for all people of Jewish descent, and it is not for all "christians" that claim Christ.
---aka on 12/12/10


Kathr4453: Your comment that you had never heard salvation was for the Jews is really sad,again.It breaks my heart to know you people don't study and read your bibles, as you should.
That is what the Old testament is about! This is why the Jews were and still is, God's chosen people. They were such a stiff-necked and rebellious people, until God opened up salvation to include the non-Jews(gentiles) This is why we owe a token of thanks to the Jews. We as Christians should be ever grateful. We were not originally included in this plan. We were adopted or grafted in. Please study and read your bible,my friend.
---Robyn on 12/12/10


Kathr4453: Your comment that you had never heard salvation was for the Jews is really sad,again.It breaks my heart to know you people don't study and read your bibles, as you should.
That is what the Old testament is about! This is why the Jews were and still is, God's chosen people. They were such a stiff-necked and rebellious people, until God opened up salvation to include the non-Jews(gentiles) This is why we owe a token of thanks to the Jews. We as Christians should be ever grateful. We were not originally included in this plan. We were adopted or grafted in. Please study and read your bible,my friend.
---Robyn on 12/12/10


I've never in my life heard that salvation is only for Jews.

Salvation is for All, Jew and Gentile. However those saved that now think they are a Jew and claim the Promises that were Given to Israel the Nation are false teacher.

The Church is given promises far beyond anything God promised earthly Israel.
---kathr4453 on 12/12/10


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Rob, romans 1 begins a timeline of the human race. THOSE who did that got death, the FLOOD!

Then Romans continues with The porpose of the Jews, Abraham, the Law, Christ, original sin, building a wonderful foundation for the Church, and Israel the Nation's furute. etc.

Jesus warns that before His coming it will be like the time of Noah. Paul warns us again as does Peter, that in these last days there are those who will bring in doctrines of demons, and they too are reservd for the final jugement!

Those who are saved are immediately grounded in truth. Those who are not grouded fall away and are drawn away by false teachers.

They in turn try to draw othrs away, who are unstable to begin with.
---kathr4453 on 12/11/10


Many of those people who have fallen for false doctrines are those who think salvation is only for the Israel. Salvation is for all those who have faith in Jesus Christ and His resurrection, whether Jews or Gentiles.
"What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith: But Israel pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness, Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by works of the law. For they stumble at the stumbling stone. as it is written"
---Mark_V. on 12/11/10


I think "false teachers" are mostly deceived, not deliberately leading innocents astray.

But GOD is the judge of "false teachers".
---Donna66 on 12/5/10

Some are. They should still test what is presented.
We should judge whether "False teachers" are false. We should warn others. How is this done? By the Apostles witnesses who were the prophets. The Prophets, prophesied and it came about.
Now who am I going to believe? A denom/doctrine that cannot, identify a precept/witness here with a precept witness there?
They go against the Prophets,Apostles and Christ himself in scripture. By this they are known.
---Trav on 12/8/10


Rob, if false teachers deserve death, then most everyone should die. I believe the passage is talking about all mankind being under sin and everyone deserves death. Just as Christian and Bruce mentioned. Nothing more.
---Mark_V. on 12/6/10


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I think "false teachers" are mostly deceived, not deliberately leading innocents astray. And there is a vast variety of teachings that are considered "false" by someone.

How could we give a "death sentence" (even if were legal, which it isn't) to
someone who simply disagrees with us? We can avoid those that seem to teach error.We can confront them with the truth. But GOD is the judge of "false teachers".
---Donna66 on 12/5/10


Someone, who knowingly leads someone innocent, astray, should be put to death.If that be the case, there would be a lot of preachers, teachers, popes and the list goes on, put to death. This is why God is the judge of Mankind.
---Robyn on 12/4/10


Romans 1:18-25 points to all mankind, without any exception because "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Simply put, the law slays ("Therefore by deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is knowledge of sin."
---christan on 11/25/10

Actually there is an exception...but, it is not taught. In front of us...but, not discussed or seen by the denoms/doc's.
Only Israel had the law. Judah and other 11 nations composing.
They are the people spoken of in the New Covenant, and the Old.
Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory,the covenants,the giving of the law,the service of God, and the promises,
---Trav on 12/1/10


I believe that this verse only applies to God's people..Jew and Gentile. Those who are outside of God's covenant, know not any truth...But it is those of us who know the truth of God, but yet ignore it, deny it's power to be released in our lives, and disobey it..it is God's own people that suppresses this truth through their unrighteousness..
---L_Will on 11/29/10


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PROVERBS 28:10 Who causeth the righteous to go astray in a evil way, he shall fall into his into his own pit: but the upright shall have good things in possession.
---RICHARD on 11/26/10


Matt.15 v 9. Beginning with the Man - made rcc & her offspring daughters churches, including those that worship the gods of buddha, muslim, hindu etc. If they don't repent, they send them selves to the lake.
---Lawrence on 11/26/10


Rob, It all depends on what your definition of "false" is
Most think it means if they have a different theology than they have!
You know.."their all wrong but me"
---1st_cliff on 11/25/10


Romans 1:18-25 points to all mankind, without any exception because "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). As Bruce rightly pointed out using Romans 3:10-12, everyone without exception is deserving of death because all have sinned and Scripture declares "for there is no man that sinneth not" (1 Kings 8:46).

Simply put, the law slays ("Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Romans 3:20) and the Gospel of Jesus Christ saves ("For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23)
---christan on 11/25/10


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This is not some sort of death sentence on false teachers. The people described in that passage are you and me. They deserve death the same as you and I deserve death for "The wages of sin is death." This is evidenced by Pauls expansion of the subject in chapter 3:
Romans 3:10-12, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable, there is none that doeth good, no, not one."
---Bruce5656 on 11/25/10


Only God can be the judge. the best thing WE can do is if we know they are false, then stay away from them & do not pay attention to them. the more people do this then they would see they won't make it.
---candice on 11/24/10


This is not exactly what you were asking for, however, this is what God has given to me: God's attitude toward the sin of mankind is not one of tolerance. His wrath is a holy aversion to all that is evil. His wrath is as essential to divine righteousness as love and mercy are....Ungodliness has to do with religion, our relation to a sovereign God. Unrighteousness has to do with morality, our relation to our fellowman. Ungodliness is sin against the being of God. Unrighteousness is sin against the will of God. Man is both a religious sinner [he is ungodly] and a moral sinner [he is unrighteous]. The unrighteous man lives as if there were no will of God revealed. The ungodly man lives as if there were no God at all. GOD'S WRATH IS AGAINST BOTH.
---catherne on 11/24/10


To be precise--Romans 2:1 NKJV

Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself, for you who judge practice the same things.

What are YOUR thoughts, Rob?
---Cluny on 11/24/10


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That's not what this passage says.

However, it cannot be read without what follows in Romans 2:1. "Therefore, whoever you are, you are without excuse when you judge, because you who judge practice the very same things!"

Remember, chapter and verse divisions are not in the original!
---Cluny on 11/24/10


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