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How do you properly and effectively spank a child?

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Marc,With all respect for your desire to share,accept some information from the Bible. Please be careful for your own sake,don't call anyone "fools" because the Bible says anyone who calls another a fool is in danger of the fire of hell Matthew 5:22. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 2/6/15


Knuckleheads! Dunces! Go to the corner!

A proverb is a picture of wisdom beyond the word-by-word structure. You don't take each word of a proverb literally. That's what proverbs do: they are more than the actual sum of its whole.

You fools are like the people who couldn't get what Jesus's parables were about.

Who among you really believes you shouldn't actually throw a real stone in a real glass house? Who really believes that if a real stone rolls it will not gather real moss? Who actually believes you must lead an actual horse to real water before you see that it will not drink?

And I use these harsh words purposely because you harm "little ones".

You are thicker than Paul's Galatian idiots!
---Marc on 2/6/15


Since the rod is also shown as a weapon of death in punishment in the Bible then the verse given about spare the rod cannot mean an infant and very young children but older children. Beating or spanking children too young to know right from wrong is a sin. Love is kind not mean and its mean to beat children who don't know why they are even being treated so badly. Fathers don't provoke your children to wrath,thats Bible. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 2/4/15


IN today's secular society, If you so much as spank a child it is consider by some to be child abuse, Now on the other side to this, people that go to far with this, and sometimes the child is kill, it's in the news time to time, Even God put's his limit on how much you can beat a man - Refer - Deuteronomy 25:2

Proverbs 13:24 - He that spareth his Rod hatheth his son, but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes,

Rod ---------> wooden stick

So Jed, It seem God think's it ok to hit { spank } to correct a child is proper, That's not to say you beat a child bloody!

Jed - what is your explanation of this verse ?

Jed - What is your opinion on what Joshua did to Jericho ?
---RichardC on 2/3/15


aservant, your attempted manipulation (witchcraft) and your false accusations makes you aservant of Satan. Fortunately, Holy Spirit filled Christians like myself don't fall dor your manipulation tactics.

Let your yes be yes and your no be no.
---Jed on 2/3/15




Jed

You are a liar because you bear false witness, you are untruthful.

The Bible instructs that everything be established out of the MOUTH of 2 or 3 witnesses.

I never answered any of your questions. One can't be guilty of lying if they don't answer your questions. You have no witnesses that saw me write or speak what you continually accused me of.

I am only guilty of showing you and everyone else God's Word, and for this you have lied about me multiple times, mislabeled me, and have slandered and defamed me.

You "established" my supposed guilt in your suppositions, assumptions, conjectures, and hypothesis of was meant by what I did or did not say. You dealing in lies makes you servant to Satan.
---aservant on 2/3/15


Jed, haven't you figured out by now aservant interpretation of scripture is from his Calvinistic theory that all but the elect/chosen are doomed to eternal hell? These were, according to aservant, spirit babies God created before forming Adam and Eve to multiply, and although no scripture says so, somehow God has chosen some spirit babies to Eternal life and some to eternal damnation, before they even enter the flesh of humans. So in aservants mind, anyone who disagrees with him is disagreeing with God. This is how they are, and cannot be reasoned with, as you can see how they avoid direct questions and twist scripture and your words.
---kathr4453 on 2/3/15


aservant, in case you been too busy in full type-it-out mode to notice, I am not even arguing the subject with you. I would never dignify such stupidity with an intelligent debate. I'm still just trying to figure out why you called me a liar for asking if you believe in beating children with rods when it turns out that you actually do. I'm just trying to understand whether you do or don't support the practice. You had me confused when you called me a liar for suggesting you support it, then went on again to defend the practice. And now I'm trying to figure out why you refuse to give a plain yes or no answer (like the Bible instructs). Perhaps you are either confused or ashamed about your stance?
---Jed on 2/2/15


Darlene - Sinners reap what they sow and sadly bring things on there children, - ------- > There none that are righteous , no not one !

Does God kill children and infant { Tough topic} but it does seem so , The flood I would believe there were infant and children there, as well as Sodom and Gomorrah,

Read Joshua --> 6

Joshua 6:21 - And they utterly destroy all was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox ,and sheep and ass, with the edge of the sword, -------------------->
Joshua 6:27 - So the Lord was with Joshua and his fame was noised through all the country,
---RichardC on 2/2/15


aservant, but you just did answer my question. Thanks. Now we all know for certain that you believe in beating children with rods and slicing infants into peices with swords. And remember that if you accuse me of lying again then you are denying that you believe such.
---Jed on 2/2/15




---Jed

You keep trying to make this spanking issue about my opinion. Ok, here is my opinion: you try to camouflage that you are in vehement disagreement with God's Word and attitude about "precious" babies. Yet, to God, those babies are guilty of sin (via parent's sin, sin begets sin) while yet in the womb, and as such the babies are worthy of death.

You don't seem to understand that anything LESS than death is mercy.

I am not going to allow you to make me your camouflage because you lack the guts to publicly tell God He is wrong, so you seek to make me guilty. My opinion: be a man. Declare you cannot serve a God that hurts babies. My opinion: your opposition to God serves the interests of Satan.
---aservant on 2/2/15


---Darlene_1

It truly does not matter what you or I think about the baby spanking issue. It ONLY matters what God says. On Judgement Day, it will be shown whether you or I trusted God's Word and aligned yourself with Him, or whether you opposed God and aligned yourself against God's Word.

I introduced God's Word on the matter, because it is Truth, and many here have judged Him to be so awful that He would dare cause pain to a baby that He created.

Or they say that the Scripture means something else.

I am in agreement with whatever God decides. I am not the Eternal Judge, God is. I trust Him, not human opinion.

Rom_3:4 . . . let God be true, but every man a liar. . .
---aservant on 2/2/15


---Jed

Good question. You CAN learn.

Now learn this: if your question is not answered, the person asked cannot be lying.

And yet again, I will not answer your question.

Num 31:17 (JUB) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman that has known a man by lying with him.

Jed, here is another opportunity for to show again your superior intellect, and judge God to be so terrible again for daring to cause pain to a little one.
---a_servant on 2/2/15


eservant with all respect to your right to your view,I wasn't debating any of that with you,I merely stated a fact you used the verse out of context. I also don't depend on Commentators views to teach me God's word. We have been discussing how a parent should correct a baby,because an 18 month old is a baby,and I still say it's wrong to use extreme measures like "Beating" a baby with an implement for cooking. It is abuse and no matter what you think God wouldn't abuse a baby. Sinners reap what they sow and sadly bring the same thing on their children's heads. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 2/2/15


aservant, do you believe in cutting children into pieces with swords? (That's a question). How do those verses you just posted relate in anyway to disciplining children?
---Jed on 2/2/15


M. Henry's Comnmetary Ps 137:8-9
The very little ones of Babylon, when it is taken by storm, and all in it are put to the sword, shall be dashed to pieces . . .

. . . He calls Cyrus . . . his servant, his shepherd, his anointed (Isa_44:28, Isa_45:1), and the soldiers . . . his sanctified ones, Isa_13:3.


Geneva Commentary Psalms 137:9
(h) . . . and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

(h) He alludes to Isaiah's prophecy in (Isa_13:16) promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom . . . God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.


---Darlene_1
God used Cyrus as His tool against the Babylonian little ones.

God used an Assyrian king as "the rod of God's anger" Is 10:5
---aservant on 2/2/15


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Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Knowledge : But a fool despise wisdom and instruction,

Psalm 33:18 Behold the eyes of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy,

Deuteronomy 25:2 - And it shall be, if a wicked man worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to fault, by a certain number,
Deuteronomy 25:3 - Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed: lest if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes,then thy brother should seem vile unto thee,
---RichardC on 2/2/15


asevant, Paul never punished anyone, as it was not his place to punish anyone. That verse Calvin took out of context and used it as his right to punish those in Geneva who would not come under his authority. Every believer is subject to Christ alone, and no man lords it over another. Paul's instruction to pastors again is to never lord it over anyone but to be an example. God wants obedience motivated by love, not fear. Perfect love has cast out fear. And we are NEVER to provoke our children to wrath. Unconditional LOVE has far more power than a rod. During the 1000 year reign, all will be under Kingdom LAW, then Jesus will rule with a Rod of Iron. Judgment and punishment will be swift and quick. We're not under Law or kingdom law today.
---kathr4453 on 2/1/15


aservant you use Psalms 137 out of context. Psalms 137 is about the captivity of Israel by Babylonians and how they were at the mercy of their tormentors. you must read Psalms 137:8 to know what 137:9 means. Psalms 8 O Daughter of Babylon,doomed to destruction,happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us-9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. That isn't God dashing babies against the rocks at all but Godless evil men. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 2/1/15


---kathr4453

Thanks for sharing your abusive past with me. I sincerely empathize with you regarding the misery you endured. I truly hope you are healing, and I am glad your Dad has been converted.

My alcoholic mother cut me with a cleaver. I know about abuse.

But, PRAISE Jehovah Mephalti, who healed and delivered me!!

1Cor 4:21
(ASV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness?

(BBE) What is your desire? is my coming to be with punishment, or is it to be in love and a gentle spirit?

The rod is for punishment, which is far better than a cleaver.
---aservant on 2/1/15


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---kathr4453 Again you decipher Scripture to fit your need, and speak as though you know when you don't.
---aservant on 1/31/15


What I DO KNOW is this aservant, I KNOW The Lord and KNOW He has NEVER used any rod or plumbers pipe to beat me with. So Yes I do KNOW. But I know my human father did, who also was physically abused and beaten in a RELIGIOUS orphanage who abused that verse. God had to TEACH me what real LOVE is! and never once had to beat me to show it. THE Lord saved my Dad and also taught him what real love is too.

Chasten me ..absolutely, but all who belong to The Lord are chastened.

Your text book theory tells all you have no personal testimony here showing YOU don't know.
---kathr4453 on 2/1/15


aservant, I don't expect you to condemn anything you believe in. But in that case, I do expect an apology for calling me a liar when I asked you if you support beating children with rods. As it turns out, that was actually the truth. So you are indeed the liar. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
---Jed on 1/31/15


Psa_23:4 . . . thy rod (H7626) and thy staff they comfort me.

Psa_125:3 For the rod (H7626) of the wicked . . .

Pro_13:24 He that spareth his rod (H7626) hateth his son . . .

H7626

shay'-bet
. . . (literally) a stick (for punishing, writing, fighting, ruling, walking, etc.) or (figuratively) a clan . . .


Not JUST the rod alone, both the rod and the staff together that comforted, "THEY comfort me".

The Hebrew def of 'rod' has no ref to comforting.

---kathr4453 Again you decipher Scripture to fit your need, and speak as though you know when you don't.
---aservant on 1/31/15


Psalm 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me, thy rod and thy staff they comfort me..

I love the 23rd Psalms. Here we also see a rod. YET, we do not see the rod here BEATING US.
To spare the rod and spoil the child NEVER says to use the ROD as an instrument to BEAT, ABUSE, CORPORAL PUNISHMENT, or as a threat to rule over. If Davis said he found COMFORT in the rod and staff, then we see that of HOW it is used, and the heart of the one using it. Psalms 23 is not about corporal punishment, but guidance.

Aservant once again has perverted scripture, without any Holy Spirit to guide his mind into all truth.
---kathr4453 on 1/31/15


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1. I don't have to please you. I have to please God. I am not going to "condemn" God for anything, as you and others have done here. He is my MASTER and SAVIOR. Without HIS FAVOR, I would be going to Hell.

Rom 9:20 (ERV) Don't ask that. You are only human and have no right to question God. A clay jar does not question the one who made it. It does not say, "Why did you make me like this?"

2. You act like you are "somebody". Do it this way, follow the thread, you must condemn, if you condemn I will apologize. You are nobody.

Read the Proverbs listed on 1/29. God Authored those re the rod. The God that you are too foolish to fear.
---aservant on 1/31/15


aservant, so you do agree with beating children with rods then? (That's a question, not a statement) Third time I've asked now and you have continued to not answer it. But you have continued to post verses witch you apparently think support the practice. I think it's quite obvious you owe me an apology for falsely accusing me of lying about you. As it is becoming more and more obvious that my original understanding of your intentions was spot on. You do believe in beating children with rods.

BTW: I don't judge God. He is my judge and I agree wholeheartedly with every word of the Bible, including those verses you have posted here. They just don't mean what you think they mean.
---Jed on 1/31/15


Jed wants me to apologize for calling him a liar.

Precious Father, I apologize to You for Jed condemning what You stated, and for disrespecting You. I apologize to You for Jed spitting out of his mouth the Spiritual food You supplied for him.

Since Jed is effectively an 18 mo old in his regard for You, perhaps You will demonstrate the rod of correction for him -- then forgive him for thinking that he knows better than You.

Thank You, El Shaddai, for Your great mercy. Your servant.
---aservant on 1/31/15


Jed

Psa_137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Isa_13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes, their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Jed, you can judge God as you have judged others. He does a lot more than punish them with a rod. Num 31:17

I bet that if you were facing God, you would beg for the rod for your babies, instead of having their brains dashed onto rocks . . .

I never seek to communicate with smug people who so readily judge others when they don't know what God has done.

You judged me by YOUR assumptions, not by my words.
---aservant on 1/31/15


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aservant, if I was wrong in my understanding that you agree with beating children with rods, then please plainly say so now. I am a little confused by your comments. At first it seemed that you were trying to support the practice with scripture. Then you called me a liar for suggesting that, indicated that you don't agree with it, but did not actually condemn it. Then in the very same comment appeared to be still trying to support it with scripture. So please just clear up the misunderstanding and plainly answer my original question. If you are willing to condemn the practice of beating children with rods then I will gladly sincerely apologize for my misunderstanding. If not, then you owe me an apology for calling me a liar.
---Jed on 1/31/15


Kayla that church you attend is not teaching the right thing,God's Law of Love does not teach that. Those teaching such beatings for small children don't care if you hurt your child . Get away from their false teaching. Cluny there also was a group of leaders in Israel that were called a Rod. Sorry I don't know where the the verse is. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/31/15


It's not good to hit a child under any circumstances.
---learner2 on 1/30/15


Rods refer to corporeal punishment if and only if:

1. In Revelation, John was told to take a rod and BEAT the Temple.

2. The Psalmist in Ps. 23 sang, "Thy rod and thy staff, they BEAT me."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/15


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aservant, if you continue to lie then I will discontinue communications with you. Secondly, yes, a question mark does indicate a question. I was asking you if I was correct in my understanding that you support beating children with rods. I was hoping that you would respond with "of course not" or something similar, but you have failed to do that. And you have failed to reject the practice. Thirdly, anyone cas twist scripture. Anyone can reference a couple of verses out of context to fit what they they want the bible to say.
---Jed on 1/30/15


---Jed on 1/30/15

1. Adding a question mark does not make a statement a question. Learn how to write.
2. GOTCHA indicates what you said somehow "caught me". Wow, you CAUGHT ME ref Scripture. What a detective you are!
3. I don't need to follow your rules: i.e., don't come into the conversation late. I did not come into YOUR conversation at all. Anyone can answer the question without regarding YOUR personal blog etiquette. And I bet that some here thought you were a smart guy.

This makes you, JED, a liar twice: no one has to read any thread at all before they answer the question.

The fruit of repetitive lying is probably not the fruit you want to have.
---aservant on 1/30/15


Kayla, you're being taught the wrong things.

My mother used to go after me with a studded belt, and I knew at the time she was merely venting her frustrations.

Elizabeth Esther, author of GIRL AT THE END OF THE WORLD, which I mentioned elsewhere, was raised in the same way you were.

She wound up hating herself and is still in therapy.

In Jesus's name, stop this torture of an 18 month old child, and go to a REAL church that doesn't preach child abuse as the Gospel.

BTW, you've never said what your husband thinks about all this. Why?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/15


Kayla, that is so wrong. Godly parents don't punish their children, they discipline them. Punishment teaches nothing. God does not punish his children, he disciplines them. He reserves his punishment for the wicked who are not his children. I beg of you to leave this abusive church. I too was beaten as a child and it did nothing but to encourage more rebellion and resentment, certainly not respect. Fear yes, respect no. Big difference. To this day I do not respect them and still struggle to subdue feelings of anger. My children are not abused like this and they are the most loving, thoughtful, obedient, and respectful children I have ever known. They often receive compliments from strangers in public.
---Jed on 1/30/15


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I have been going to a church, that advocates discipline from an early age. They said its not just correction, but punishment so they need to know it hurts...and they said that its not a spank, but a spank-ing which means lots of smacks over and over. They also said to just use wrist flicks as they sting alot but don't inflict damage. I didn't know this was unusual, its what they preach and how my mother did me. Sorry for offending it was not my intent.
---kayla on 1/30/15


a servant, I did 't lie about you. I was asking you if that's what you believe. Please go back to kindergarten so you can learn what a question mark indicates. If you're going to come to a conversation late, then please at least read the previous comments to see what we're talking about. We're talking about Kayla spanking her 18 month old infant with a plastic spatula "for several minutes" at a time. So please, don't YOU ever lie about me again.
---Jed on 1/30/15


Say Jed, I provided Scripture re God's Word. I said NOTHING about an 18 month old.

Please NEVER lie on me or about me again.
---aservant on 1/30/15


So, aservant, let me make sure I'm getting this straight. You are in favor of beating an 18 month old infant with a rod? Gotcha.
---Jed on 1/29/15


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As our Creator and Owner, God knows more than humans about humans. He does not lie. Notice, He wants punishment to come from a rod.

Pro_13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Pro_22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Pro_23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Pro_23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Pro_26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.
Pro_29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
---aservant on 1/29/15


It sounds to me like she's been reading the Perl's book on child raising.

Parents following their advice have seriously injured and even killed their children.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/15


Good suggestions, Darlene.

Kayla, if your church is encouraging you to whip your infant, PLEASE get the heck away from that church. That is not a godly church.
---Jed on 1/28/15


Kayla you are an abusive mother,you should never whip even big children several minutes with a plastic spatula as you can really hurt them and injure such a small baby badly. Child Protection Service would take that baby away from you in a heartbeat. A baby that age does not learn by beating it,the child will quickly learn fear and hate toward you but not life skills. Please stop and take some parenting classes,especially learn about a child's mental ability at different ages. The time out method on a naughty chair,one baby size,and you only leave them there for one minute and each age you leave them according to how old they are one,one,two,two minutes and so on. If they get up put them back and make them stay their time. God Guide you.
---Darlene_1 on 1/28/15


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Dear goodness, Kayla! I thought you were being sarcastic in your previous post! You mean you ACTUALLY whip your infant with a plastic cooking utensil? For crying out loud! I hope someone is made aware of this and your children are removed from you ASAP.
---Jed on 1/28/15


You mean you can't recognize satire, kevia?

Seirously, that spoon or spatula hurts your baby as much as a whip would hurt you.

Think about it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/28/15


Oh good lord no...I would never use a whip on anyone much less a baby! I don't like whips or canes that welt and bleed. While I may be strict, at least a light plastic spatula doesn't bleed or cause any damage, lots of stingy pops do sting and burn like fire but nothing serious like whips and canes.
---kayla on 1/28/15


\\I pop his bare bottom and thighs with a plastic spatula for several minutes nonstop.\\

You're using the wrong implement, Kevia.

You should use a whip.

But not just any whip.

No, use a nice, clean freshly oiled whip laid across your child's back in clean, even, rhythmic strokes so a little blood wells up into the gashes.

That should teach that rebellious sickie submission and discipline.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/26/15


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I spank my 18 month old baby boy, sitting in a chair with him laying facedown over my lap. He is either naked or bared from the waist down, and I pop his bare bottom and thighs with a plastic spatula for several minutes nonstop. To me this is a very effective spanking.
---kayla on 1/26/15


the question was how do i spank properly... well what i usually do is: find myself a good solid plank one inch square, i nail tree or four nails of five inch let them lay flat on the floor and beat as hard as i can until the wood brakes, then i pull them up and say "you see what i did to the tree because of you" usually that helps them to understand that they should not do it again. if that doesn't help then i will take a soft linnen belt and slap them on the but. i found that the pride is more hurt that way then their but.
---andy3996 on 12/14/10


aka -- sorry, I thought you were agreeing with the statement.
---Donna66 on 12/4/10


We all should understand correction and discipline. I think kids should be taught,corrected,disciplined. In that order. You don't assume a child knows something. You teach..first. If child is acting out and up, you correct. When you know child has been taught and corrected and child is still not adhering to teaching and correction, then you discipline with a rod(switch,belt) according to the Word of God(Prov 22,6 and so on) Either you discipline the child (early on) or the child will discipline you (later on) Your choice,people. Guess what? The child will be delighted and eager to discipline you(later on) for being such a wimp and so spineless. That will be your reward.
---Robyn on 12/4/10


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Don't spank when you are angry. Don't threaten child then fail to carry through. Give hug after spanking, to let child know a spanking does not mean ,you don't love him/her.
Use hard licks on the rear end with a leather belt or open palm. Don't tap lightly. Make them feel it and know you are serious.
---Robyn on 12/3/10


Donna66,

when i quote somebody indicated by //, i do not think it is always necessary to include the name. please reread the posts and you will see that i did not say this.
---aka on 12/2/10


When I was a child I was beat senseless in the name of spanking. I do not think that a parent should take their anger out on the child.
This being said, I do believe in spanking. I think that a parent should wait until their anger passes and then gently spank a child to teach them accountability for their actions.
All children are different and have differnt temprements and different needs. I was hard headed and needed to be spanked. Just not OVER spanked..lol.
---Maureen on 12/2/10


aka-- We are talking about spanking, not beating anybody up. Because my parents were consistant and firm (even to the point of spanking..."no" meant "no") I felt secure that they would not let me get into some dangerous situation or one that was beyond my abilities to handle.

In a sense this was a "comfort" to me, even if I didn't always like it. Yes, the "rod" and "staff" comforted me, (though my parents never literally used either one). I could site experiences from my childhood, where I saw children who badgered their parents into giving permission for something that untimately hurt them (and in one tragically vivid example, ended in their death)
---Donna66 on 12/1/10


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You only spank your children to shock them about something they are doing that would severely endanger them.

You DO NOT spank to hurt them but to shock them.

I spanked each of my 2 children (Boy and Girl) Once each.

The boy because he started a game of running away from us in shopping malls and hiding. Because he knew we were going to chase him.

The girl because she thought it was funny to run across streets. Both were spanked to prevent that from happening again and thereby saving them from fatal (or worse) incident.

It must be something that important that it can NOT happen again to protect their lives.
---John on 12/2/10


//...as it says in the Psalm 23, "Thy rod and thy staff, they BEAT ME UP!"//

Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me, thy rod and thy staff they comfort (nacham) me.

to breathe heavily on, to strengthen, to chasten...as Pharisee said.

...to beat me up???

cluny, you crack me up! Forrest Gump would say that your posts are like a box of chocolate, you never know what your gonna get.
---aka on 12/1/10


\\"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Proverbs 13:24\\

And as it says in the Psalm 23, "Thy rod and thy staff, they BEAT ME UP!"
---Cluny on 11/30/10


It's been said here that spanking is weong (spelling error or speech impediment? you decide) and has no purpose, I am forced to disagree.

Ideally in my opinion spanking should be reserved for defiance, when a child stands in your face and tells you "NO" or is caught playing on railroad tracks after being previously instructed for example.

The purpose is to instruct them when you are not there. Things they know will lead to a blazing kiester will be much easier to avoid and be thought over much more carefully. The purpose is to make your wishes for them stick in their minds, it's what scripture prescribes and it works.
---Pharisee on 11/30/10


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i have a high threshold for pain. i refused to let the spankings of my dad hurt me.

that carried over to my Heavenly Father.

compared to the "spankings" that i now have to endure from the Father, I wish I had repented when my earthly father tried to rebuke me as imperfect as he used to be.
---aka on 11/29/10


1st Cliff -- When punishment was swift and sure, children did not call adults names that are unprintable here. There were rules to be followed by everyone. "Cheating" on tests and papers was punishable by deducting from the grade (they had actual A,B and C grades) And no parent thought this punishment too harsh.
Sports taught children to be good losers and gracious winners. They learned to cope with disappointment and to keep trying. They learned that effort and dedication were rewarded. From this they gained self-esteem, not by being constantly told how "special" they are.

I truly believe children are now thoroughly trained in the "entitlement" mentality that will bring the nation to ignoble ends.
---Donna66 on 11/29/10


Harken unto the words from the Lord -

"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Proverbs 13:24

"Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die. Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?" Proverbs 15:10,11

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. My son, if thine heart be wise, my heart shall rejoice, even mine." Proverbs 23:13-15
---christan on 11/29/10


Great advice from Pharisee!!!
---a_friend on 11/29/10


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If you are not living in a southern state you had better be careful. In most any other state now if you spank a child for any reason it will constitute child abuse and Child Protection Services will in all probability remove your children. With a good attorney you can likely beat the charges in the court system. But don't count on getting you children back any time soon if ever.

I am not telling you that it is just or correct, I am just telling you what is currently happening in many states at this time. You should likely look into an alternative form of discipline. It my not work as well but you get to keep your children.
---Blogger9211 on 11/29/10


People used to think it was necessary to "spank" adult members of the community, college students, military trainees, and prisoners. In some countries they still do. In our country, it is considered sexual battery if a person over the age of 18 is "spanked", but only if over the age of 18.
---Mino on 11/29/10


There is no such thing as "spanking/beating". donn5535 describes beating, period. This is child abuse.

A child who is spanked appropriately according to age (pre-teen) and type of infraction, and who (if older ) is warned ahead of time, can feel secure knowing his limits. A spanking is over in a minute, doesn't prolong discomfort and promote resentment over time, but clears the air. It allows the child to offer an apology and have it accepted immediately followed by a hug. It is a foretaste of our repentance toward God and His immediate forgiveness and restoration of relationship.

Time-outs for some things and witholding priviledges to teach responsibility, have a place. But so does spanking out of love not anger.
---Donna66 on 11/29/10


When I was in school (long time ago)the teacher had a strap and used it when we were unruly.
Now that corporal punishment has been taken out of schools we have an unruly class of rude punks,sass the teacher, wear any type of clothing,wander around, use cell phones, etc. total disrespect. there's no such thing as "failure" they move on regardless...there's much to be said about some forms of corporal punishment so long as it doesn't become "abuse"!
When we were disciplined at school we were also in trouble when we got home!
---1st_cliff on 11/29/10


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BTW I did do the other methods,even watched "SuperNanny" have her book etc, & sometimes spankings are neccesary. Also noticed in my previous post i said I "tapped" my 2 yr old on the butt. I donot slap,or anything else forceful, but the tap does get his attention. thankfully my children are learning where we donot need to spank them as often.
---candice on 11/29/10


There is nothing wrong with disciplining your child including spankings.However there is a difference between spanking out of love( because they need to learn their lesson,) & then beating your children which btw you should NOT spank out of anger. I have 3 boys ages 2,6, & 9 1/2 & yes they ALL got spankings one time or another. the 2 yr old gets taps on the butt(diper) if he misbehaves.Spankings work in my family .my 9 yr old doesn't get them as much unless he really acts up. All 3 of my children respect us where we do not need to spank as much. only that look we give them straightens them up.
---Candice on 11/29/10


You don't....Period.

I was spanked/beaten as a child for stupid stuff like arguing with my sister or playing my radio too loud. My father had a viscous Italian temper.

He left welts on the back of our legs and we were only six and eight years old and continued it until we were teenagers, then I ran away.

Spanking serves NO purpose. Watch the show Supernanny. They do time outs on a chair in the corner. I never thought that show would help anyone, but after watching it, those techniques work - so no spanking, okay? Please?
---Donna5535 on 11/29/10


If you are wise you won't. There are many ways to correct children without physical punishment. Parisee gave a very important fact the importance of praise for your children. Some times children who aren't praised will do things to get whipped because that is the only attention they can get from the parent and its better than none,they are so starved for a real relationship with their parents. A child who is shown love,respect,given praise,has interested parents who get involved,and parents who teach them how to have love and faith in Jesus,grows up wanting to please and not disappoint his parents.
---Darlene_1 on 11/28/10


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Spanking is only as effective as the praise you've given in good times. It works because the praise elevates the child's desire to hear you praise them and when pleasing you is what they seek you won't need to really hurt them with a spanking to get the message across.

My Father was a vicious critic and as a child I was left with no reason to try, for even in doing my best I was met with how I could have done it so much differently.

If you need to spank your child intermingle it with praise, remind them of all the things you love about them and make sure they know how much it hurts you to have to do it. Most important never spank in anger, always make clear the problem before you administer the punishment and don't be too harsh.
---Pharisee on 11/28/10


there is no proper way to abuse children.
this verse has been twisted by society to advocate child abuse,if You doubt me ask a shepherd,and he will tell You also, the rod is for inspection,it is the staff that is for beating i.e. bear's,wolve's,lion's,NOT CHILDREN....
Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
---kevin5443 on 11/28/10


With a folded up square of toilet tissue.

From 10 feet away.
---Cluny on 11/28/10


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