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If an adult tells a falsehood to a child about Santa, is that child later likely to doubt what the adult tells him about Jesus?

Moderator - My guess is that would totally be dependent on each individual child and how they are wired. However, in my house we have never done the Santa or gift giving stuff with our kids. We celebrate God giving His Son for our sins.

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Cluny, You continue to project and blaspheme because there is no light in you. You must first leave the world with its dictates and rules in order to follow Christ. Your blasphemy of Christians is vain and self-condemning. So please do not address me further until you are prepared to accept the truth without dissing.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


David, Christians are not pagans, you are confusing believers with nonbelievers. We who celebrate Christ's birth on Christmas are not the same as nonChristians who celebrate santa claus or whatever they else they are celebrating.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


Do you honestly believe I'm getting angry over such an inconsequential individual as yourself Elder? You're having delusions of grandeur. You obviously call yourself 'Elder' to compensate for something you're not?

But what you are Elder is a persistent liar. What issue have you got with someone growing wheat? Do you also have psychological problems with wheat growers? Let's see where your persistent lies and misrepresentations lead you.

According to Revelation 7, there are 2 groups- the 144,000 (7:4) and the 'Great Crowd' (7:9). Which one I belong to is irrelevant. I will not be casting my pearl before swine. 144,000 rule with Christ in the heavenly Kingdom (Rev.14:1-4), a Great Crowd will enjoy Kingdom blessings on earth.
---David8318 on 12/24/10


Eloy- yes there are birthday celebrations recorded in the Bible, but one important fact about those celebrations you conveniently miss out. Can you tell? Perhaps you suffer the same as Cluny. You've been involved with paganism for so long, you are no longer able to 'distinguish between right and wrong'- Heb.5:14.

Let me spell it out for you. Those birthday celebrations recorded in the Bible were observed by pagans. But of course, it makes so much more sense now why you (and Cluny) are so fascinated by birthday celebrations. It's because you are a pagan!

None of the verses you cite give any reference to the times and dates you believe. You are in your own imaginary pagan world- polluting God's word.
---David8318 on 12/24/10


Cluny- that is precisely what paganism does lead people into. With their extraordinary fascination with fertility rites- yuletide logs and decorated trees in their houses- many can understand why within paganism is found STD's, paedophilia, teenage pregnancy etc...

So I can understand why you being so heavily involved with paganism dislike your form of religion being spoken against- either from true Christians or other religious groups.
---David8318 on 12/24/10




\\His noncelebrating is his own loss, just as all whom reject participation will have no part of the celebration of Christ.\\

Your pitiful defense of your misuse of "who" and "whom" shows you have a serious problem with pride, Eloy.

The exalted spiritual position you claim for yourself does NOT excuse such solecisms.

Standard English usage is what it is before you came on the scene.
---Cluny on 12/24/10


Cluny, David rejects Christmas, and he has tried to draw paganism into Christ's holy birth in order to fabricate an excuse for his rejection. This is a comnmon sin trate of the hard-hearted, that of misapplying falsehood to the holy Scripture. His noncelebrating is his own loss, just as all whom reject participation will have no part of the celebration of Christ.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


Donna66, A-men Donna. That was beautiful...world, keep your fake and worthless santa, I will exalt the almighty Christ on Christmas.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


Donna66, I'd like to add one if I may.

There is a different Santa at the mall every year.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
---kathr4453 on 12/24/10


--Santa lives at the North Pole...JESUS is everywhere.
--Santa comes but once a year...JESUS is an ever present help.
--You have to wait in line to see Santa...JESUS is as close as the mention of His name.
--Santa lets you sit on his lap...JESUS lets you rest in His arms.
--Santa says "You better not cry"...JESUS says "Cast all your cares on me for I care for you."
--Santa's helpers make toys...JESUS makes new life, mends wounded hearts, repairs broken homes.
--While Santa puts gifts under your tree...JESUS became our gift and died on a tree...the cross.

2Cr 9:15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
---Donna66 on 12/23/10




\\Why would Christ need to instruct his followers not to celebrate a pagan festival? It goes without saying. The reasons are obvious aren't they!?\\

You sound just like the Mahometans in Britain who have put up posters blaming STDs, teen-age pregnancy, pedophilia, and other ills on observing Christmas.

If it quacks like a duck....
---Cluny on 12/23/10


David, birthday celebrations are recorded in the Bible. And we are told to rejoice and to give honor where honor is due. Ecclesiastes 3:1,4+ Romans 13:7. But you yourself do not have to follow any thing at all written in the Bible, but instead when God says Yes, you can continue to say No- keep dissing, and you will be dissed, and Christ will share his table with others: and keep sinning, you will die:
John the Baptist's birthday, July 19th, 5 B.C. - Luke 1:14+ 58.
Christ Jesus's birthday (Christmas) was the 2nd hour of night, between 7 and 8 o'clock Mediterranean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C.- Matthew 2:10,11 + Luke 2:10,11.
---Eloy on 12/23/10


Cluny, as I've pointed out to you before, you've been involved with paganism for so long you are no longer able to 'distinguish both right and wrong'- Heb.5:14.

True Christians have their 'perceptive powers trained to distinguish both right and wrong'. They don't need a set of rigid laws for every occasion. Christians are not bound by the pagan 'date and season' of December 25 and its pagan Mithra-mas / Roman Saturnalia festival. The Bible doesn't have to state the blatantly obvious- unless you need to be spoon fed, a 'babe' unable to partake of solid spiritual food.- Heb.5:13.

Why would Christ need to instruct his followers not to celebrate a pagan festival? It goes without saying. The reasons are obvious aren't they!?
---David8318 on 12/23/10


This is one thing that Eloy and I can agree on. When parents teach their children to believe in the American Trinity of invisible beings (Jesus, Santa, and the Easter Bunny), and the children later discover that Santa isn't real, and the Easter Bunny isn't real, is it any surprise when they later decide that Jesus isn't real either?
---StrongAxe on 12/23/10


Most of what English speaking people imagine about Santa Claus comes from the poem A VISIT FROM ST. NICHOLAS by Clement Moore, professor at both Columbia and General Theological Seminary.

This includes his sleigh, reindeer and their names, and his general appearance, though in the original poem both he and his reindeer are described as "tiny," and he would land in the yard, NOT on the roof.
---Cluny on 12/22/10


If a parent never starts the worldly lies to their children, then there is no need for damage control later.
---Eloy on 12/23/10


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I always told my kids that santa is Jesus's special Christmas Helper.They knew Christmas was about Jesus's birth.Later they knew the story of the real ST.Nicholas who resides in heaven with all the saints of God.Yet they got to enjoy the mystery and fantasy that was exciting and fun and stimulated their imagination.It was never a problem.
---judy on 12/23/10


\\Eloy- none of the scriptures you gave me on the other thread contain any reference to December 25 or any command or instruction from Christ for his followers to celebrate his birthday.\\

David, can you give any evidence that Jesus did NOT command it or forbade such a celebration from the scriptures?
---Cluny on 12/22/10


Eloy- none of the scriptures you gave me on the other thread contain any reference to December 25 or any command or instruction from Christ for his followers to celebrate his birthday.

It does appear you are looking at those verses from your perspective as a worshipper of the pagan deity Mithra, whose birthday was/is on December 25.

As I've pointed out before, your erroneous use of Haggai 2:18 is wholly flawed as the foundation of YHWH's temple was laid during the '2nd month' as reported by the eye witness Ezra (Ezra 3:8,10). You misquote Haggai 2:18 and falsely apply this verse to Jesus Christ when it has no relevance to Jesus' birth whatsoever.
---David8318 on 12/22/10


Geraldine, The Moderator is right, it depends upon each child's disposition, after they find out that their parent lied to them how they will receive any later words from their parents.
---Eloy on 12/21/10


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\\Cluny, another lie. False religions and idolaters try to give creedance to false myths by misassociating nonrelated historical people to the myth.\\

As it is written, "Answer not a fool according to his folly."
---Cluny on 12/20/10


"Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?

And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
2 Cor 6:14-16
---christan on 12/20/10


JackB, By your own admission, you say, "I wanted to be a witch, because of watching Witch Mountain." So there you have it. Nothing further needs to be said, because facts and truth cannot be changed. And it is well known that witches are nonChristians, and do not follow Christ: "Train up a child in the way they should go, even when they are old, they will not depart from it: but teach a child in the way that they should not go, and unless they turn back to the right way they will surely fall into the ditch and be destroyed."
---Eloy on 12/20/10


//people abide in darkness, they are taught lies from a very early age, every thing is sown into their life but Christ//

I was taught Santa Claus. I wanted to be a witch when I was a kid because of Return To Witch Mountain. I read books on werewolves and witches and goblins and the likes.

Even then God was stronger than ALL of those things! Hmmph! Imagine that!

Stop living your lives in fear. God is far more powerful than his adversary. You cant stop children from learning what a life of sin is like. They need to experience it in order to be thankful for what Jesus Christ has done for them. God brought us our of bondage. He can do the same for our children

Stop giving the devil so much power.
---JackB on 12/19/10


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JackB, Shame on you. I totally disagree, for teaching lies to children may "seem" fun by humoring them with fairy tales, but all lies are condemned and all sin has death at its source. Like I said before, there are many many many ways to humor a child, and teaching lies to them is wrong, no matter how much you dress it up, it is sin. Teach them about the gift of Christ on Christmas, about the miracle of the virgin birth, about the shepherds and the magi, and about Zacharias and John's birth, but not about lies. That is why people abide in darkness, they are taught lies from a very early age, every thing is sown into their life but Christ.
---Eloy on 12/19/10


Sinners, Go, run after your santy claus, for perhaps he has the gift you need, and will save you from your sins. But as for me, I will none of it: for I will worship only the Lord, for he is proven worthy to be praised, and to receive all worship and acceptation, and all honor and all majesty and all glory. I say, to hell with the fake santas: and all hail and hallelujah and praise to the King of kings: Let everything that has breath, Praise the Lord!
---Eloy on 12/19/10


JackB- there is a huge difference between a child's imagination and a parent telling them lies. If you're unable to tell the difference then your kids have far greater things to worry about.

It serves to highlight the fact that Paganised Christians will go to no ends to preserve their December 25 holy-day. There is no Biblical command or precedence to use the pagan date December 25 or the pagan festival associated with it as a means to honour or remember Jesus.

Cluny will probably raise the ridiculous argument "neither does the Bible contain the words 'airplane' or 'car'. It's evident that the Cluny's and JackB's of the world have been Paganised for so long they are unable to 'distinguish between right and wrong'- Heb.5:14.
---David8318 on 12/19/10


Well said, JackB :) I heartily agree!
---Mary on 12/18/10


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For goodness sake people. Hes FUN for the kids. If children believing in Santa Claus is evil then so is them fantasizing about anything else as a child like imagining they are a firefighter or a ballerina or that the tooth fairy will bring them a money under their pillow when they lose a tooth.

I am truly ashamed that unbelievers witness conversations like this after we try to teach about the life, peace and liberty that Jesus Christ can bring them.

God has not given us a spirit of fear. If your minds are filled with fear over such petty things then its proof your relationship needs some serious work.
---JackB on 12/18/10


Rod4Him,

Yes, that's the story. However, it must noted that, as the story goes (and if my memory serve me right), Jesus Christ and the Holy Theotokos visited some of the Bishops of the Holy Council and told them to forgive Saint Nicholas because He was defending the Truth. He was forgiven, released from prison, and reinvented to the meetings. Saint Nicholas asked God for forgiveness while in prison BTW.

In any case, didn't Jesus got angry and drove the money changers out of the Temple? :)

I think we can all understand how Saint Nicholas felt when he heard the monstrous doctrine of Arius.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 12/18/10


As I recall St. Nicholas slapped Arius because of his views at the Council of Nicaea. Slapping was probably a way to insult Arius. Still, it wasn't very nice of St. Nick.
---Rod4Him on 12/18/10


Cluny, another lie. False religions and idolaters try to give creedance to false myths by misassociating nonrelated historical people to the myth. The term "Sinter Klaas" was first known in 100 A.D. in the Netherlands. And the Initial "S" in the German word "Sinter" was later changed to "C" under the influence of the French "cendre", meaning "ashes." And refers to Old Nick sliding down the chimney's of soot and ashes and coals. No catholic idolater had any relevance to the Sinter Klaas myth, for Sinter Klaas is proven to be 100% falsehood, along with the elves in the North Pole, and also the flying reindeer. Get back to the Bible people, and back to The Truth.
---Eloy on 12/18/10


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I think it's better to tell children that Santa Claus is really St. Nicholas (feast day 6 December), who was known for his secret charitles, and especially kindness to children.
---Cluny on 12/17/10


andy3996--We live in a society that is obsessed with possessions...and that fosters class warfare instead of more enduring human values.

Little children can be delighted by simple things. They normally have no accurate concept of rich and poor when they are very young. Their values come, not from Santa, but from parents. Christmas is a great time to teach children about giving to children less fortunate than they.. and not being greedy themselves. They can give under the name of "Santa Clause" without taking credit for themselves. They usually love the secrecy of playing "Santa" for someone else.
---Donna66 on 12/17/10


Steveng, I agree 100%: "It's lying, pure and simple." And this antiChrist and NonChrist fairy tale called santa claus, which some think is harmless, is actually the sin of idolatry. Consider how Christ Jesus feels every year on CHRISTmas, his birthday, when he looks down upon the humans that he has made: How would you like it if instead of blessing and cheering you upon your own birthday, we instead truly praise some other imaginary big fat old man who slides down chimneys in red underwear? Ho Ho Ho says satan, and if your honest you would feel betrayed for it is "YOUR" birthday to be honored and not some fake imposture's.
---Eloy on 12/18/10


//If an adult tells a falsehood to a child about Santa, is that child later likely to doubt what the adult tells him about Jesus?
//

Only if they dont see Jesus Christ in you.
---JackB on 12/18/10


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Everyone has the right to allow or disallow "Santa Clause" as their conscience dictates.

Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty, only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
---Donna66 on 12/17/10


Moderator has every right not to introduce a fictional character into the lives of kids and associate that fictional character with Jesus Christ. Moderator should be applauded.

Robyn's comments of 12/1/10 regarding Moderator's stand on the issue on the otherhand is deplorable. Paganised Christians are quick to spout 'don't judge your brother' when their false festival is exposed as pagan, but hypocritically do the same when others for good reason choose not to involve themselves in their cultist pagan rites and rituals.

As already mentioned here, the whole 'Santa' thing is for commercial, greed reasons. The commercial advertising campaigns of the Coca Cola company (1930's) helped shape the modern day image of 'Santa'.
---David8318 on 12/17/10


Ok, last time -- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL. But yeah, you're right, the earth is 6000 years old, evolution is a hoax, god created us, and you're going to heaven, and santa will bring you some cool stuff in a couple of weeks. Hope that allows you to sleep more soundly. I suppose ignorance is bliss.

-ACTUAL QUOTE FROM AN ATHEIST! Notice the ammunition he's been given...
---Pharisee on 12/15/10


\\You need to open your eyes to the real world instead of reading your worldly books.\\

Please tell me the titles of the worldly books you think I read.

Be specific.
---Cluny on 12/8/10


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about Santa, I dont like him, He's there for the rich, and he poor always get deceived by him every year... James said you respect the rich and despise rhe poor, and that's exactely what Santa does.
---andy3996 on 12/8/10


\\Satan is surely taking advantage of today's technology to get people to turn away from God, eh?\\

Guess what?

The American legend of Santa Claus is much older than technology.

And you have three children into Wicca as a result of reading Harry Potter? That's more than Jo Rowling, who intended her series as a Christian allegory, has met.

There has ALWAYS been fantasy and imaginative literature for children. I recall reading fairy tales as a child, and wasn't turned away from Christ as a result.
---Cluny on 12/8/10


To Cluny responding to your 12/6/10 post.

You need to open your eyes to the real world instead of reading your worldly books.

How many have I met? Three out of the twenty or so children I see four days a week. As a california certified teacher and tutor for over 35 years I see a lot of children.

As for "what does this have to do with Santa Claus." A lot. Children are being deceived by their parents and daily through the media.

Satan is surely taking advantage of today's technology to get people to turn away from God, eh?
---Steveng on 12/7/10


cluny: "Jo Rowling herself has said.., she's never met ANYONE who told her s/he got into the occult through reading the Harry Potter books.

Would she tell you if she did?

During the first three of her books hundreds wrote her letters about attending Hogwarts, tens of thousands of children worldwide wanted to be like Harry Potter for one reason or another from getting rid of their parents to getting rid of bullies at school.

You see, cluny, children want to escape reality in today's world. And who do they turn to? Fictional characters. It all started with roll playing games. Try attending one of those conventions having harry potter.
---Steveng on 12/7/10


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\\ Many of these children are already obsessed with Potter that they are already strongly dabbling into the occult.\\

How many of these have you actually met?

Jo Rowling herself has said that in all her book signings, she's never met ANYONE who told her s/he got into the occult through reading the Harry Potter books.

And there's not a single REAL spell used by Wiccans you can learn from them.

Did you think there were?

In any case, what does this have to do with Santa Claus--or Mr. Bingle,who brings Jewish children Chanukkah gifts, for that matter?
---Cluny on 12/6/10


Robyn: "Moderator: Sounds like your household would be hell to live in, especially for a child. Let the kids have a little clean fun. And by the way, you might enjoy yourself, for a change."

How are you going to convince hundreds of thousands of children (and a few adults) that Harry Potter is only a fictional character? Many of these children are already obsessed with Potter that they are already strongly dabbling into the occult.
---Steveng on 12/6/10


Today is the feast of St. Nicholas, Bishop of Myra, who was a participant of the First Ecumenical Council and known for his charities.

It's the day when Northern European children got gifts of sweets and little toys placed in their shoes. (Greek children got them on 1 January, St. Basil's day.)

Happy St. Nicholas Day, everybody!
---Cluny on 12/6/10


Tommy is a good example of why parents need not worry about "Santa" or the "Easter Bunny" corrupting their children. Children base their own beliefs on what they see every day in between holidays. If they see parents that pray at home and teach their children to do the same...who model Christian values to the best of their abilities and help their children do likewise....Santa will not lead them astry! If parents make a point to teach the true meaning of the Resurrection and the Nativity of Christ, Santa and the Easter Bunny will be no more than fond nostalgic memories from their childhood.
---Donna66 on 12/5/10


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Tommy3007: I was blessed by reading your post. I am glad you finally came around to the truth. Don't blame your parents for anything. Thank God you at least had parents who did expose you to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is up to us to reach out and get our portion. No one can make you, or do that for you. Your parents were not perfect.All christians mess up(sin) at some point in our faithwalk. I had an almost similar experience. My father was a preacher and I did see Jesus in his life and my mom. But I still strayed for a while. I am so grateful to have had christian parents,now. Jesus is the Way. GBU
---Robyn on 12/5/10


\\My parents had my sister and myself in church nearly everytime the doors were open when I was a child, but their actions through the week didn't agree with what they acted on Sunday. \\

Good point, tommy.

I know when I was in school the very people who sat around in Training Union talking about how must Jesus meant to them and how many notches they had in their Bibles treated me like crap in school.
---Cluny on 12/5/10


The problem is not so much in the "fairy tales" we tell our children, but more the possibility that our lives don't support what we say about believing in Jesus Christ. My parents had my sister and myself in church nearly everytime the doors were open when I was a child, but their actions through the week didn't agree with what they acted on Sunday. So I rejected christianity as a young adult and resisted for 20 years. I was finally saved at the age of 38 and now try to serve the Lord with gladness.
---tommy3007 on 12/4/10


Moderator: Let me apologize for my reply to you but it was not really intended to hurt or criticize. I really meant what I said. Let the children have a little fun. The schools teach evolution and other lies in school. We don't go and burn down the schools. Now do we? So relax. The children will find out there is no real Santa or Easter Bunny etc.The kids enjoy believing that. They outgrow the games,eventually. But Santa is real. Depends on what you want to believe.
---Robyn on 12/4/10


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//There's a Jack Chick tract with this theme--that telling a child about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy will make him bring a gun to school and terrorize the students and become an unrepentant mass murderer at adulthood when he finds out the truth//

I like some Chick tracts but this one has me LOL.
I thought the youthful gunmen were victims of parental abuse, school bullies, lack of self-esteem, feelings of abandonment by divorcing parents, problems of sexual identity.

But NO, the REAL villains are Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny!
---Donna_Smith on 12/3/10


\\Cluny relax, have a hot chocolate.
It was just a joke on the spelling of Santa.
Don't read into it.
---John on 12/3/10\\

But some people DO try to make something out of this mere coincidence.

**It is telling children that he makes a list, checks it twice, and he's gonna find out who's naughty or nice.**

Don't you see? He knows, he KNOWS!

OMG, what are we going to do? He KNOWS! He KNOWS! HE KNOWS!!!!!! (breaking down sobbing......)
---Cluny on 12/3/10


Cluny relax, have a hot chocolate.
It was just a joke on the spelling of Santa.
Don't read into it.
---John on 12/3/10


L I V E rearranged
=
E V I L

Are you sure you still want to play word games?
---Linda on 12/3/10


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The thing most worldly and harmful about the whole Santa Clause thing is not the tradition itself. It is telling children that he makes a list, checks it twice, and he's gonna find out who's naughty or nice....and then manipulating their hearts by telling them he won't bring them anything because they have been bad. Now that is antichrist because it doesn't teach them of the unconditional love and grace of God. Instead it teaches them they get only what they deserve.
---Linda on 12/3/10


\\Hmmm???
S-A-N-T-A

REARANGED =

S-A-T-A-N\\

And do you think that JESUS is derived from ISIS, too?

I've had people try to tell me that.
---Cluny on 12/3/10


David ... Hmmm

DOG

REARRANGED

=

GOD
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/3/10


Hmmm???
S-A-N-T-A

REARANGED =

S-A-T-A-N
---John on 12/3/10


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I grew up believing in all the childrens stories including Santa. When I was a child I thought as a child,spoke as a child,acted as a child but when I grew up I put away childish things. As an only child I received an abundance of gifts for that but grew up believing in Christ because Mama taught more about him than all the other things put together. Moderator is right about it depending on the child but I would say even more depends on the parents and how imporant they make Christ to their children. I don't remember a time I didn't love God through Christ because Mama taught me to trust and obey him.
---Darlene_1 on 12/3/10


There are many many ways to effectively humor a child, without having to tell them false stories. Look how after some of these children grow up, they will embellish this childhood fairy tale for desiring the falsehood to be true.
---Eloy on 12/3/10


WOW, Robyn those were so ugly replies. Why the personal attacks whether you agree with my Biblical view or not?
---Moderator on 12/3/10


Robyn I agree with the moderator. We just can't "let loose" because Jesus said we as chrisitans are IN the world without BEING Part of it. So otherwise there are other correct ways to spend with our children without giving into the commercialisim/matierial world part that comes alnog with these holidays.
---candice on 12/3/10


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I did the Santa, Tooth Fairy,Great Pumpkin and so forth. Three more games(for the kids sake) among many other games. Why are we wired so tightly? Loosen up people and enjoy life. We are free. If you are sure of your salvation and you put Christ first in your life then you are okay.
Moderator: Sounds like your household would be hell to live in, especially for a child. Let the kids have a little clean fun. And by the way, you might enjoy yourself, for a change.
---Robyn on 12/1/10


I had all of those fictional characters in my life as a child, as did my children. It never entered my mind not to believe my parents later because of that. I had a spectacular childhood & had faith in God at a young age.
---Marilyn on 12/1/10


You can say it's over reacting all you like, the point is what's true for one child won't be true for all of them.

If you got mauled by a dog would it be easy for you to trust dogs? Of course not. Well some children take right to the fuzzy quadrupeds like nothing happened after such an event, others don't, and there's no way to know how disappointed a child will be that there really is no Santa.

The point is that their faith has been manipulated for no good reason.
---Pharisee on 12/1/10


Cluny -- Good point. I never heard of Mr. Bingle. But chances are, if kids find out he doesn't exist, they don't decide their parents were "lying". And they enjoyed the fantasy while they had it.

Many of our holiday customs survive, I believe, not because of their meaning, but just because we enjoy them.
---Donna66 on 12/1/10


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I wonder how many Jewish children cease to believe in God once they hear the truth about Mr. Bingle?

And while we're at it, one might as well ask what latkes, gefilte fish, and gelt have to do with Channukah.
---Cluny on 12/1/10


My stepson did believe in Santa...but we constantly reinforced the birth of Christ. We also only got 3 gifts each just like Jesus. He asked the Lord into his life at age 9.
---Maureen on 11/30/10


I have yet to meet an adult who ceased to trust his parents after discovering there is no Santa...nor one that found faith in God difficult because of it.

Children normally entertain all sorts of fantasies from Peter Pan to Superman without growing up "jaded"

Children will accept what they see their parents taking seriously... praise, prayer, faith in Jesus... If this is what they see day in and day out. Eventually peers and other authorities may prove much more dangerous to their faith than "Santa", influencing them to doubt or rebel.
---Donna66 on 11/30/10


It's lying, pure and simple.

Children imitate their parents. If parents are caught in a lie by the child, the child thinks it's OK to lie. And when the parent tries to correct the child to not lie, then it creates conflict in the child's mind. The Santa lie has been handed down from generation to generation and every generation will lie to appease the child.
---Steveng on 11/30/10


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I find it pretty amazing that people teach there children all year to stay away from strangers and to not receive any gifts from strangers. But take them to set on a strangers lap and receive candy canes from him and not to mention divulging personal information to him about there hearts greatest desires. Go figure. God Bless, Paul
---paul on 11/30/10


For goodness sake. We had santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny but we also knew what christmas and easter were about. I have never carried a gun to school or anywhere else and shot anyone.
---shira3877 on 11/30/10


Moderator, A-men. On Christmas we get together and celebrate by usually having a spice cake with "Happy Birthday Jesus" simply decorated on it, and light three candles on it, then we sing happy birthday to him and together we blow out the candles in remembrance of his birth on earth, and his gift of salvation to us.
---Eloy on 11/30/10


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