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Is it good for a christian to dance in front of his God to help solve problems in the church?

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//However, considering the pronunciations shown in Strong's concordance are not anywhere near what Greeks actually say, it does make me wonder about their accuracy.//

i definitely agree with. i was just trying to say, go with what you got, and everybody should realize that we all look at ourselves through dark mirrors.

it is the application not the interpretation that is paramount.

BTW - I would argue that the more still a person is in the Lord, the more settled he is in his heart.

the outward manifestation of service has more weight to me than physical gyrations.
---aka on 12/18/10


Alan8566 of UK with all due respect for you and your opinion,to understand what Cluny said read both sentences together."The Orthodox tradition of Mystical prayer,called Hesychasm means silence and stillness,is(changing it's) attained only by those who love Jesus above all." It means to me exactly how it sounds,unless one loves Jesus above all they can't attain the Mystical Prayer state called Hesychasm,stillness and silence. That would put those who don't achive that Mystical prayer state outside of "love Jesus above all". Meaning if you don't do it you don't love Jesus above all. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 12/18/10


Ignatius, I did not say,

"And by the way Mark V, didn't you say that those who keep still DO NOT love Jesus?"
No I did not say that, what I did say was,
Ignatius, let me say no one who is truly in love with Christ can stand still. They are so excited to tell someone, and rejoice on what they know now that they are born of the Spirit."
That does not mean I said if you stood still you didn't love the Lord. The phrase, that they cannot stand still, was not concerning dancing since I said they were excited to tell someone. It does not mean they are not still in their lives and never stop. That is nonesense since they have to sleep and do other things also in life.
---Mark_V. on 12/18/10


\\//and used by serious scholars//

true...especially those who can afford them.
\\

I won't argue with that. I admitted they were expensive.

However, considering the pronunciations shown in Strong's concordance are not anywhere near what Greeks actually say, it does make me wonder about their accuracy.

Or when he tried saying that the Hebrew word the KJV translated "sackbut" (a primitive trombone) was a stringed instrument.
---Cluny on 12/17/10


Mark ... You really need to read the sentences carefully. Cluny is pointing out that only those who love Jesus can attain that quietness.

He does not say you can't be a Christian unless you meet in silence.

He is in fact saying a parallel to what could be said about dancing. You can only dance in the Lord if you love Jesus. But that doesn't mean you have to dance to love Jesus
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/17/10




Mark ... I was just pointing out, in love, that you had misunderstood what Cluny had said.

"Only" IS an exclusive word ... but its application depends on where it is placed in the sentence.

I am sure you would not want to say that those who do not love Jesus can meet in that holy silence that some achieve, any more than you would say that those who do not love Jesus can leap and dance for joy in Christ.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/17/10


//and used by serious scholars//

true...especially those who can afford them.

fortunately, wisdom and knowledge know no boundaries.

however, foolishness and ignorance obey no boundaries.

so, arm yourself with His provisions.
---aka on 12/17/10


Alan, again you are complaining and whinning. Cluny did say'

"He said //It's attained only by those who love Jesus above all//"
Does it not say, "it's attained only by those who love Jesus?" Does that not exclude all the others?
Only means the same in the U.K, and Africa, as it does here. Only by those. It was a legit question, but you just don't get it.
The other side always complains and whins, and throw fit's. I remember, you picked a side already and threw the peace I gave you in my face.
---Mark_V. on 12/17/10


\\Perhaps Mark knows peacock when he sees one.
---mima on 12/17/10\\

I saw a photo of an Orthodox wedding in Indonesia, where the crowns were adorned with peacock feathers.

The peacock has long been an emblem for the Eucharist, as it was believed that the flesh of a peacock would not corrupt and bestowed immortality on those who ate it.

Is this what you're talking about, mima?
---Cluny on 12/17/10


"Perhaps Mark knows peacock when he sees one." (mima)

Then why doesn't she recognized you as one? You certainty are a peacock, following colorful traditions of men.

Mima, I will be praying for you. You have told us in another blog that you follow vain traditions of men, and you are not ashamed in confessing it. You have much baggage on your shoulder.

Good day sir!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 12/17/10




Perhaps Mark knows peacock when he sees one.
---mima on 12/17/10


\\"The Pharisees are examples of those who worship, wore the clothes that your leaders wear, looking very religious."\\

Obviously, Mark, you know nothing about either Orthodox vesture or what the Pharisees wore.
---Cluny on 12/17/10


"The Pharisees are examples of those who worship, wore the clothes that your leaders wear, looking very religious." (Mark V)

Protestant ministers within various Protestant sects (Lutheran, Baptist, Pentecostals, etc) wear clerical vestments. It's biblical.

"...the outside did not count, it is what is in the inside that counts."

And we are taught that in Orthodox Spirituality. In fact, I have countless spiritual books written by Monastics and they all outline this fact. One such book is The Path to Salvation: A Manual of Spiritual Transformation
by St. Theophan the Recluse.

And by the way Mark V, didn't you say that those who keep still DO NOT love Jesus?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 12/16/10


Mark ... //Cluny, now you are saying that the ones that go and meet and keep silent are the only ones that love Jesus//

Cluny did not say that. He said //It's attained only by those who love Jesus above all//
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/17/10


Cluny, now you are saying that the ones that go and meet and keep silent are the only ones that love Jesus. Are you really serious? You are so caught up in your traditions of man, you don't even know what you are saying. Just nonesense. When did Jesus say that you had to do that? You think because they do what they do, it makes them saved. The Pharisees are examples of those who worship, wore the clothes that your leaders wear, looking very religious. But Jesus told the Pharisees that the outside did not count, it is what is in the inside that counts.
---Mark_V. on 12/16/10


\\Cluny do you think those who rejoice and dance in the Spirit and Praise God outloud in words or even song don't love Jesus above all.\\

Well, someone here seemed to think that those who practiced external stillness for spiritual reasons did NOT Love Jesus above all.

Why is it that someone else can make such an accusation and not be censured, but I get it when I do?

**If Strongs is not useful as you also say, what is most useful in your opinion? What do you call serious?**

Try Liddell and Scott's lexicon, or Bauer, Arndt, and Gingrich--expensive, but MUCH more exhaustive than Strong's, and used by serious scholars.
---Cluny on 12/16/10


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Mark V-

When Monasticism spread in the Early Church in the fourth century, many Men and Women went into the Desert and Monasteries to enter into communion with God without any worldly interruptions. They prayed, fasted, and those who were in monasteries celebrated the Divine Liturgy and attended other liturgical services. They learned how to combat the passions and demonic attacks with prayer and stillness. They are the PEFECT example of those who love God, and stand still.

In Orthodoxy, this spiritual path is called Hesychasm.

There are numerous books about Early Monasticism and the Desert Fathers. On such book will be In the Heart of the Desert by John Chryssavgis.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 12/16/10


"both Ignatius and Cluny are too stiff and proper to accept anything like this statement." (Mima)

Sorry Mima, but Orthodoxy have being spreading the Holy Gospel and combating heresies since 33AD.

Today, there numerous Orthodox missionaries spreading the Apostolic Orthodox Faith to various places in the USA and foreign nations who haven't heard the Gospel. In fact, I support and work close to those who are members of the Orthodox Christian Mission Center.

Is this a example of be stiff and proper Mima? What is your example of loving God? Jumping like a lunatic in church services?

In IC.XC.,
---IGnatius on 12/16/10


What a squabble!!

There is nothing in the Bible to tell us to leap & dance, and there is nothing to call it wrong.

We all have different characteristics. I enjoy Beethoven Mozart & Bruckner, not Elvis, Stones, Beatles, & the Crooner.

Some gain from quiet reflective worship, others from jumping about & shouting.

Let's thank God for this rainbow of musical & worship taste!
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/16/10


Cluny do you think those who rejoice and dance in the Spirit and Praise God outloud in words or even song don't love Jesus above all. You are very mistaken we not only have the demonstrative form of worship but also are blessed with the sweet stillness found in the awesome presence of God. It is wonderful when alone but the experience of seeing a large group of worshippers fall silent as God moves over them and remain that way,not moving,speaking,or doing anything else but loving God quitely in their own minds and hearts is beyond words. It is a precious time adoring God whether alone or in a group. Psalms 46:10 Be still and know I am God,I will be exalted among the heathen,I will be exalted in the earth.
---Darlene_1 on 12/16/10


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Markv both Ignatius and Cluny are too stiff and proper to accept anything like this statement.
"Ignatius, let me say no one who is truly in love with Christ can stand still. They are so excited to tell someone,"
---mima on 12/16/10


\\Ignatius, let me say no one who is truly in love with Christ can stand still. \\

The Orthodox tradition of mystical prayer, called "hesychasm" means "silence and stillness."

It's attained only by those who love Jesus above all.
---Cluny on 12/15/10


Cluny, I hope that you are not saying that if a person is leaping in the spirit inside he cannot leap for joy in the flesh. It seems like you are saying that. What you wrote is not logical at all. Another thing you said,

"Strong's lexica are good basic tools for amateurs, but they are useless for serious study."

You are assuming you are serious and the others or not, so can you tells us what makes you more serious? If Strongs is not useful as you also say, what is most useful in your opinion? What do you call serious?
---Mark_V. on 12/16/10


cluny, you really think like a westerner, trying to seperate body and spirit. the bible writes from an eastern perspective where body and Spirit are one entity. the bible doesnt really puts a distict seperation between body spirit and soul, westerners do. the bible does not put difference between the power of God and the spirit of God.
example genesis 1 speaks about the Spirit hovering upon the waters but it is also correct to translate this same phrase the wind of God or the breath of God. what you need is to stop seperating body soul and Spirit and then give glory to God in body soul and spirit, only then you'll please God fully let you spiritual service be to give your body as a pleasing sacrifice.
---andy3996 on 12/16/10


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\\ agallio, really means to leap of joy.\\

Except, it doesn't.

Strong's lexica are good basic tools for amateurs, but they are useless for serious study.

The body cannot "leap for joy" if the leaping is taking place in one's spirit, which is the phrase that modifies the verb.
---Cluny on 12/15/10


Ignatius, let me say no one who is truly in love with Christ can stand still. They are so excited to tell someone, and rejoice on what they know now that they are born of the Spirit. Of course many take this feelings to an unknown state which I see wrong, and becomes the only thing they hold dear, but the real genuine Christians not only enjoy the feelings but know when not to go so far that they forget about the word of God altogether. There is always a balance. The same with the gifts. There is nothing wrong either in singing hymns. They all speak about God.
In fact, one Catholic church I attended years ago had Mariachi's. I was so surprise because I had never seen any Catholic churches with bands playing music.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/10


\\ First you gave Psalm 45:10 when it should have been 46:10. \\

It is Psalm 45 in the Septuagint (LXX), the version of the OT used in the Orthodox Church.
---Cluny on 12/15/10


Mark .. I have often pondered why in my church the song "Be still and know... " sung slowly should so often be followed by rather noisy songs, sometime with people encouraged to jump up and down.

Thanks for pointing out the two can go together!

I still have to say that I prefer the more traditional hymns, and am uncomfortable when the leaping and jumping and turning is done to order.

Nevertheless feel that when there are no modern songs, there is something missing.

One of my pet hates is the use of words like "gonna" and "wanna" in the modern songs!
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/15/10


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I did some research too.

When I found Psalm 68:16 which reads, "Why leap ye, ye high hills?" I realized that it was at least improper for women to do so. Men dont wear high heels. Women do.

So leap if you must, but not in high hills!
---kathr4453 on 12/15/10


Of course...May God forgive us all. ---Cluny on 12/15/10

thank you, cluny.
---aka on 12/15/10


Again, this is a great example of how the titles of the moderators skew the question of the blogger.

Title: Dance During Church Service

Question: Is it good for a christian to dance in front of his God to help solve problems in the church?

after Rod4Him posted Ps. 100, i reread the question. the question and the title are opposite each other.

the title leads you to think of dancing in the church, but that is not exactly what was asked.

Remember, the church starts in the heart, and why shouldn't we show joy alone in front of God before the gathering of church members.

moderator: can we please have a title field to put in a suggested title?
---aka on 12/15/10


Darline, it was a pleasure to say what I did. I was so amaze to see the children dancing with so much joy for Christ. The two rows of seats were nothing but children. It was the most awesome thing I had seen in my life. The place was filled with joy. Nothing out of control, just sheer worship. Of course this was in Spanish which to me made it even more special. I also found that reading Scripture in Spanish was much different then in English for some of the words in Scripture have a more powerful sound in Spanish.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/10


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Mark V Thank you for saying you liked what I wrote about church dancing,it is very kind of you to say so. I am always blessed seeing children honoring the Lord with praise,knowing their little hearts are being taught about the Lord at a young age.
---Darlene_1 on 12/15/10


its good to see that you read biblical greek. still that does not change that the word used for rejoiced: agallio, really means to leap of joy. your not questioning me whatsoever, your only putting in doubt what is written in STRONGS to win your own personal battle. read psalm 149 and 150 where the psalmist gives the direct order to dance before the lord, even when you read it in Hebrew...
---andy3996 on 12/15/10


\\i apologize that i spke when I shouldn't have. Will you forgive me?
---aka on 12/14/10\\

Of course.

May God forgive us all.
---Cluny on 12/15/10


ignatius, i know that must be a typo...the verse that cluny used is part of Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
---aka on 12/15/10


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Ps. 100, "Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth.
[2]Serve the LORD with gladness,
Come before Him with joyful singing.
[3]Know that the LORD Himself is God,
It is He who has made us, and *not we ourselves,
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
[4]Enter His gates with thanksgiving
And His courts with praise.
Give thanks to Him, bless His name.
[5]For the LORD is good,
His lovingkindness is everlasting
And His faithfulness to all generations."

Eccl. 3.
"A time to weep and a time to laugh,
A time to mourn and a time to dance...A time to be silent and a time to speak."
---Rod4Him on 12/15/10


Ignatius, that was a clever move you made concerning dancing. First you gave Psalm 45:10 when it should have been 46:10. Second, this twin command "Be still" was directing them not to panic, "and know that I am God"
The twin commands had nothing to do with dancing whatsoever. In the context it was directed to both His nation for comfort and all other nations for warning. If you had read the whole context, you would have known. It is not directing anyone not to dance and worship Him. You picked a verse and change the meaning, very clever of you.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/10


"Be still, and know that I am God" (Psalm 45:10)

That's a direct quote from the Bible.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 12/14/10


That's because pre-Reformation Churches take the Biblical commandment "Be still, and know that I am God" seriously. - cluny

this is not a verse from the bible. it is your commentary using part of a verse from Scripture.

i apologize that i spke when I shouldn't have. Will you forgive me?
---aka on 12/14/10


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\\thje scripture i reffered to is luke 10:21 jesus rejoicedbut in original greek it says that jesus leaped of joy,\\

You said MATTHEW 7 originally.

And no, Luke 10:21 doesn't say that, either. I read Biblical Greek.

It says that He rejoiced IN SPIRIT.

This does NOT mean "jumping up and down in the body."
---Cluny on 12/14/10


Dancing in church is a form of praise. Read the word they sung songs and danced for God all throughout the bible. It pleases God when we celebrate his goodness and mercy.
---Bee on 12/14/10


Cluny! here's my second trial, first my apologies for i work from a internet cafe, the country i live in is not developed ennough to have interrnet in every house, actually not even every city has connection. so i have to answer without my bible which causes me to make mistakes thje scripture i reffered to is luke 10:21 jesus rejoicedbut in original greek it says that jesus leaped of joy, this leans actually lmuch more towards the jewish identity of Jesus. sadly it where distinguished brits with their tea-time and celebrated good manners who translated the bible for us.
---andy3996 on 12/14/10


3 again other references are the prison guard jumped of joy when he was saved acts16.34 -personally i have seen people do that today-Peter 1:6 says we should jump of joy because we are persecuted revelations 19.7 talks about juping of joy with the marriage of the lamb. still, and i agree to jump of joy is not dancing at itself.
---andy3996 on 12/14/10


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5 as you can see in the former blogs, dancing is commanded by God to please God. However is dancing bodily expression? yes, but so is fast, prayers reading the word of God, preaching, teaching evangelisation and whatever we do in church. we could do non of them without our bodies. the bible says that all this will cease when we are in heaven but not worship not singing, not dancing. (called jumping of joy in revelations)does it solve a problem? yes in that it heals the wounded heart. be reasonable the true problem is not the problem the problem is that often we lost confidence and courage to continue, and dance can heal that.
---andy3996 on 12/14/10


\\Cluny,

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I am sure you will be able to take whatever I say and make it 'funny'.
---aka on 12/14/10\\

Apparently, you don't recognize a direct quote from the Bible when you hear it.
---Cluny on 12/14/10


KarenD,

My apologies. My day was fine. However, you remind me there are times to be silent, and this was one of the times.

Cluny,

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I am sure you will be able to take whatever I say and make it 'funny'.
---aka on 12/14/10


aka....Actually, I thought Cluny was trying to be funny. Why attack me? You must be having a really bad day.
---KarenD on 12/13/10


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\\I would think that if I knew and was in the exact Way, that my concern would be to attract with the sweet fruit of the Spirit than repel with the rotten ego of man.\\

If you don't consider the pure Word of God that I quoted to be the "sweet fruit of the Spirit," then I don't know what to do.

I think all you're saying is you cannot come up with a response.
---Cluny on 12/13/10


//LOL....LOL....Thanks, Cluny. You made my day!//

KarenD, if that amuses you, then you really have to reconsider.

Is the sniping and sarcasm necessary to spread the Truth? Is being in the right church (which is supposedly in you) give you the right to be superior and demean others?

I would think that if I knew and was in the exact Way, that my concern would be to attract with the sweet fruit of the Spirit than repel with the rotten ego of man.
---aka on 12/12/10


That's because pre-Reformation Churches take the Biblical commandment "Be still, and know that I am God" seriously.
---Cluny on 12/11/10

LOL....LOL....Thanks, Cluny. You made my day!
---KarenD on 12/12/10


Mark is quite right.

I am an anglican, and there are all types of churches in this denomination.

In some we sit in rows and everything is done to a pattern ... no joy is shown, even if the words spoken talk of it. All very serious and everyone wears Sunday best.

Then in others, it is all very rumbustuous, a bit as he describes at the pentescostal service. All disorganised, and spontaneous ... but full of JOY !

I have to say though that I have attended a Catholic church where the same joy was there
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/12/10


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Cluny, my statement was not to condemn the Catholics at all. The music could have come from Russia or one of them countries. Second, it was only my testimony of what this Pentecostal church did compared to where I came from. The Catholic church, was all ritual. Stand up, seat down, kneel down and stand up. Hear the bells the communion bread is ready, 30 minutes of a story from the Bible, and that was it. At the Pentecostal church there was joy, and praising God, then the word of God was preached for 1 hour. When you came out of that Church you were ready for the week with joy. Listening to gospel music whenever we got into the car and still praising God.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/10


\\Dancing kind of to Jewish music.\\

Oh, yes. A lot of Americans think that augmented seconds in quasi-modes is Jewish. Not so.

|| I had never witness that before at any Catholic church I had gone to before.\\

That's because pre-Reformation Churches take the Biblical commandment "Be still, and know that I am God" seriously.
---Cluny on 12/11/10


matthew 7? what verse...what word?

there is nowhere that i can find in the scripture that says that dance is a resolution to any problem within the church.

when drought was a problem for Elijah and everybody else during that time did Elijah dance for rain? when Sarai and Elizabeth were having fertility issues, did they dance. when Paul was trying to reason about 'tongues', did he dance for them?
---aka on 12/11/10


\\matthew seven says that jesus rejoiced\\

Nowhere does Matthew 7 say that Jesus rejoiced.

Would you like to try again, Andy?

mima, Messianic Judaism is an inauthentic mishmash of post-Aposotlic Rabbinism, mostly Reform, and American evangelicalism.
---Cluny on 12/10/10


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Dancing is fleshly and external even if its a manifestation of something real in the heart.
It is not a road to problem solving though it can provide a respite from the reality as emotions soar.
When you get done dancing the wayward teen is still lost, the house is still in foreclosure, etc...
---larry on 12/10/10


matthew seven says that jesus rejoiced now the word used there is not correctly translated. the greek word used really talks about leaping up of joy. sadly our language does not really had a good alternative (or it was translated from the cool brittish cultural background. if i mention psalms will i get critisezed where in psalm 147 149 and 150 we are in different ways commanded to praise God. maybe you donn" have a good concordance at home, but if you look for dancing in the thompson chain reference you"l find some very great scriptures. god bless
---andy3996 on 12/10/10


Sister Darline, I loved what you said. Concerning dancing. The first time I went to the Pentecostal church I attended, right after I committed my life to Christ. I walked into that church, 1000 or so members, I sat down so unhappy, my wife had left me, I was so inspired by what I saw in the beginning of the service. The first two rows were dedicated to the children. About a hundred of them. When the music began all the children got up and danced. It was so beautiful to see them and the whole church clapping their hands, it was so beautiful. Dancing kind of to Jewish music. I could not understand why they were all so joyful and I was so depressed. I had never witness that before at any Catholic church I had gone to before.
---Mark_V. on 12/10/10


\\I don't think that GOD really cares about the "how" part of our worship. \\

Yes, He does.

He gave GREAT details for worship in the OT, and even smote people who offered strange fire or dared to touch the ark.

Jesus gave us ONE act of worship in the NT, and very few on here observe it each Sunday as the Apostles and first century Christians did.
---Cluny on 12/9/10


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Messianic Jewish services normally include or make provision for some to dance. I have been in attendance many times at these services and always found the dancing to be joyous and exciting.
---mima on 12/9/10


Fundamentalist are not fun?

Psalm 149 1-4
1Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
2Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
3Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.
4For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
---kevin5443 on 12/9/10


I know that according to the Bible that we are to dance unto God in worship, and it can be done alone or in church. As far as dancing in church to solve problems, this sounds like Paganism and Idolitry to me, NOT God. I know that the Native American's do this for rain, but they also worship nature and animals which is Paganism and Idolitry.
---Leslie on 12/9/10


various civilizations dance to change the weather, to make crops/people fertile, and please their god.

"Acknowledgize yo' faulty wiring to eacher, and dance fo' eacher, that ye peeps be on da mend. The effectful, wicked jiggle of a righteous bro' avail big time yo." - Jaz 5:16 Word-up KJV

what the church needs now is to entertain unnecessary practices.
---aka on 12/8/10


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I don't think that GOD really cares about the "how" part of our worship. The important thing is that we "do" worship HIM, and HIM, alone. There are NO other gods. Amen?

Like some of the other bloggers have mentioned, I'm not sure about just how dancing would solve problems in the church.

Just be sure that your worship -- whether that involves: singing, dancing, kneeling, sitting, standing, raising of hands, etc. -- doesn't involve ANY sinful activity. That is why some churches frown on dancing.
---Sag on 12/8/10


Dancing is not the method to reach God with a problem. Jesus is our only link to God and we must go through him,dancing doesn't do that,prayer does 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus. Even when one danced in the Spirit it wasn't to solve a problem but to rejoice,praise God and exalt him. Psalms 149:3 Let them praise his name in the dance,let them sing praises to him with timbrel and harp. All the verses I found on dance were in the Old Testament. Modern churches having trained dancers dance to solve a problem,is another example of trying to mix the Old Testament with the New Testament,yet changing the original purpose,and is man's doing not God's.
---Darlene_1 on 12/8/10


//Aside from the fact that mahometans make their prostrations towards MECCA, and not Jerusalem, where do you think they got it from?

It was from the Apostolic worship practices of EASTERN Christians//

And the Eastern Christians must have gotten it from the Jews, who built their synagogues facing toward Jerusalem after the destruction of the temple.
---Rod4Him on 12/8/10


\\even Jesus jumped of joy when the seventy reported him that the demons where submitted expelled and the sick healed. \\

Please give Book, Chapter, and Verse that says this, Andy.

I've searched the word "jump" in several English translations and have not found it used anywhere in any of the Gospels.
---Cluny on 12/8/10


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Some churches "dance before the Lord" as a way of worshipping. But for Problem-solving? I don't see it. Prayer and discussion would seem a lot more effective to me.
---Donna66 on 12/8/10


\\Cluny, it is a part of true worship\\

No, it isn't.

Where is this mentioned in the New Testament? Please give book, chapter, and verse.

\\ as is kneeling as is bowing with your head on the floor directed to jerusalem (the muslim style)\\

Aside from the fact that mahometans make their prostrations towards MECCA, and not Jerusalem, where do you think they got it from?

It was from the Apostolic worship practices of EASTERN Christians.
---Cluny on 12/8/10


The act of dancing under the influence of the Holy Spirit, is a state of ecstasy, but I do not see the correlation of dancing in the Spirit as a remedy to solve some particular problem in the church.
---Eloy on 12/8/10


I'm just wondering what kind of problem in the church could be settled by dancing.
---KarenD on 12/8/10


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If Paliden were to show up and shoot a few of your Deacons would that solve any problems in your Church?
Huh.... is it good for a Christian to dance anywhere? It appears to me that this would cause problems.
Has prayer gone outta style? Ah... what a foolish thing for me to ask. I can tell it must have. Where did you get such an idea anyway? It was not from God's Written Word in any form or fashion.
Dancing or praying, same amount of letters, so why not use something that might work? Unless, of course, you can not get prayers answered.....
---Elder on 12/8/10


Your statement is causing me to ask more questions. 1. Was this dancing taking place in the church? (2)What scripture(s) is being used to justify this action? (While there is scripture that states people dancing before the Lord, it's a matter of being joyous not to solve a problem. An example of this is seen in Jeremiah 30:19)What are the problems that they think can be solved by dancing? Where did they get the idea that dancing before the Lord would solve the problems?
---wivv on 12/8/10


Cluny, it is a part of true worship, as is kneeling as is bowing with your head on the floor directed to jerusalem (the muslim style)as is th rowdancing and the jumping. if you don't feel easy about it, ok, if you say it isn't christian, that is wrong. go to the coptic churches they dance quite well the etipiopic church dances even better. and you should go to Irak Iran, all the traditional churches have dance in their programm. there's dance in the synagogues, even Jesus jumped of joy when the seventy reported him that the demons where submitted expelled and the sick healed. lets face it dancing is a part of worship. but i agree that everything has to be done in order. we are church, not a night-club.
---andy3996 on 12/8/10


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