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Was I Blaspheming

On another blog, I made three statements:
That only Jesus is sinless.
That The Lord's prayer says "Forgive our sins".
That only God can judge and send people to Hell. I was told I was blaspheming. Was I blaspheming, or not?

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Jesus is sinless both in his Divine, and in his human nature. We as men sin regularly, Romans 7:15-8:39, 1John 1:8-10, 1Timothy 1:15. Christians depend on Gods forgiving us though, and we are expected to be apt to forgive others, Matthew 6:9-13, Luke 11:2-4. The verses that show God as a righteous judge are considerable, Matthew 3:11-12, 7:23, 25:41, Mark 9:43-48, Luke 13:27, Romans 1:18, 2Thessalonians 1:7-9, Revelations 20:9-15, etc. To blaspheme is to falsely accuse, improperly revile, or speak calumny of someone. And so, I would say no!
p.s. 1Corinthians 5:4-13, 11:19, 16:22, Galatians 1:6-9, Titus 3:10-11, 2John 1:10-11, Jude 1:19 apply to Eloy.
---Glenn on 12/27/10


jed, the righteous and the innocent have zero need of repentance, but the guilty whom sin by blasphemy and by bearing of false witness ought to repent.
---Eloy on 12/27/10


Cluny: "How great I art!

Too funny!
---jerry6593 on 12/27/10


Then sings his soul, the Self-savior unto himself:
"How great I art! How great I art!"
---Cluny on 12/26/10


Jerry ... The Lords Prayer says "Forgive us our sins"

That is us asking God to forgive our sins, whether they were aginst HIm or against other people.

It is an acknowledgement that we do continue to sin, and need to costantly ask God for forgiveness.

And yes, the following words remind us that we need to forgive others for sins done against us.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/26/10




Alan: NO! You are not blaspheming. Two instances of blasphemy are cited in the New Testament: Claiming to be God, and forgiving sins AGAINST GOD. Eloy has previously claimed to be God by saying that Jesus' words from the cross, "Eloi", referred to himself.

Only Jesus is completely sinless - TRUE. He never sinned. All the rest of us have sinned, but He commands us, as he did the adulteress, "Go and sin no more."

The Lord's prayer says we are to forgive OTHER's sins against US - not sins against God.

God is the ONLY righteous Judge, mixing justice with mercy.
---jerry6593 on 12/26/10


Eloy, you need to truly repent of your pride and arrogance and be saved, which can only be done throught the precious blood of Jesus Christ, not through works. For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. You need to ask God to apply the precious blood of Jesus to your sin debt, a debt so large that only God himself could pay with his own life. You need to admit that your sin is so attrocious and horrible that any attempt you make to redeem yourself is hopelessly inadequate. Only the blood of Jesus can redeem you and make you righteous. Not through anything you have done, but because of what God has done for a lowly wretch like you. This is the truth for all of us and the way of salvation and righteousness for everyone.
---Jed on 12/25/10


Eloy, from your own words,

"markv, Yes, markv. The unregenerate continue to mock, and the Christians will continue with The Truth."

I was right, because you publicly told the whole world on line that Christ death was not brutal enough as to what you went through. You mocked the death of Christ. And to this day you have not repented. Today is Christmas Day, which is a perfect time for you to repent and believe in your heart that His death was sufficient for yours. And if you do, then the mockery you made against Christ, Jesus promises to forgive. Are you humbled enough to do that? Or will you stand firm on your prior mocking? Only with a contrite heart will you be forgiven. I pray that God changes your mind.
---Mark_V. on 12/25/10


markv, Yes, markv. The unregenerate continue to mock, and the Christians will continue with The Truth.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


markv, yes markv, the unregenerate continue to mock, and the Christians will continue with The Truth.
---Eloy on 12/24/10




No Eloy, blasphemers of Christ, those who degrade the Lord Jesus Christ, and false teachers like you take passages out of context to prove something which is not scriptural. You see the passages given to you and you have no answer but to complain they are not true. There is no one righteous without the righteousness of Christ. Not even you. You are a false teacher pretending to be deity and above everyone. You condemn anyone who disagrees with you, and add to your account more sin. Your twice salvation might need a third.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/10


MarkV, Sin-supporters extract verses and misapply them to nonrelated subjects not spoken of in the passages, and misappy them out of context to support their sin and to blaspheme the righteous and to blaspheme God: "Sin Not. Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from sin. Sin Not. Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten: for from the fruit the tree is known. Sin Not. Have not I commanded you, Go and sin no more? I had planted you a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then are you turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine to me? Sin Not. Repent, and do the first works, else you be gathered and thrown into the fire, and are burned. Sin Not."
---Eloy on 12/23/10


Eloy, "Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin, Paul was stringing together a series of OT quotations, when he said "for we have previously charged" that indict the character (vv.10-12), Conversion (vv.13,14), and conduct (vv. 15-17) of all men. Nine times he uses words such as "none" and "all" to show the universality of human sin and rebellion. This are quoted from ( Pss. 14:1-3, 53:1-3). If you read "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins" Eccl. 7:20 and in Pss. 143:2, "Enter not into judgment with they servant, for no man living is righteous before Thee"
---Mark_V. on 12/23/10


Eloy 2: no one living includes you too Eloy. There is no one righteous before God who does not sin, you included. So every time you say you are sinless you sin. And you have said it many times, so your list is very big. We admit that we fail and are sinners of which we need the help of our Savior for each day to sustain us and be our Advocate. Because of what you believe, you don't need an Advocate, You've arrived. Sinless.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/10


Jed, This refers to the sinful Jew being equal to the sinful Gentile, and not about the righteous. Romans 3:10 in context: "What advantage then has the Jew? or what profit the circumcision? What then? are we better? No, in no way: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are each under sin: As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one, there is none discerning and seeking God. They are each gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable, there is none that does good, no, not one: Their throat is an open grave, with their tongues they have used deceit, the poison of asps is under their lips: whose mouths are full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood..."Romans 3:1,9-15
---Eloy on 12/23/10


In vain balsphemy sinners try to project their own sins upon the saints from God: but "A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. For from the fruit the tree is known. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. Little children, let no person deceive you: whoever that does righteousness is righteous, even as Christ is righteous."
---Eloy on 12/23/10


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Eloy, it is you who is blaspheming. The BIBLE says "There is none righteous, no not one" Also "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God!". Also Paul said "The things that I want to do I don't do, and the things I hate I end up doing". Do you think Paul was unsaved and went to hell? Even Paul admitted to sinning after becoming a Christian. Eloy, you need to learn how to become saved yourself. The first step is admitting your sin.
---Jed on 12/22/10


Mark_V.:

Right. None of us is perfect. "I am right, and everyone else is wrong" is pride, usually leading to strong spiritual delusion.

1 Jn 1:8 says we deceive ourselves if we say we have no sin.
Paul calls himself chief sinner (1 Ti 1:15).
Paul rebuked Peter about eating with gentiles (Ga 2:11-14).
Jesus told Peter "get behind me Satan" (Mt 16:23).

Mt 26: "not my will, but thine, be done" means "my will" and "thine" are different - Jesus's wanting to live vs. God's needing him to die. He also rebuked Peter for cutting off the priest's servant's ear, and said Peter would deny him thrice.

To be perfect is to be better than John, Paul, Peter, and Jesus himself.
---StrongAxe on 12/22/10


\\What I find from Eloy is that he does not go around hunting individuals like a some others, he also responds to questions to give what he knows, he is giving his opinion on Scripture just like everyone else.\\

The trouble is that Eloy says that his opinions on anything are divine revelations, including his solecisms and historical errors, and anyone who disagrees with him (even when evidence is given) "has no light."

He thus claims an infallibilty that surpasses even that of the Pope.
---Cluny on 12/22/10


\\The unregenerate continue to mock, and the Christians will continue with The Truth.
---Eloy on 12/21/10\\

That's EXACTLY what we've been trying to tell you, Eloy.
---Cluny on 12/22/10


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What I find from Eloy is that he does not go around hunting individuals like a some others, he also responds to questions to give what he knows, he is giving his opinion on Scripture just like everyone else. Though what he says is very wrong many times, he is giving his opinion. His condemnation of others is what is really wrong. I believe Eloy has good intentions when he answers, but if you do not agree, watch out, the wrath of Eloy will come. Every body has got that wrath from Eloy in this past years. I don't think too many have escaped.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/10


The unregenerate continue to mock, and the Christians will continue with The Truth.
---Eloy on 12/21/10


\\You speak these lies against the truth-tellers, because there is no light at all in you.\\

But you're not a truth-teller, Eloy, because you claim you have no sin, therefore the Truth (Who is Jesus, Who is also Light) is not in you.
---Cluny on 12/20/10


Elder ... it appears now that I am not only a blasphemer but a liar because I report what the Bible says!
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/20/10


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Eloy you make me laugh. You are so predictable. You have done the same thing again that you condemn others for.
But,I do believe that maybe one of us does need to get Saved. And, as Johnny Cash
used to sing, "It ain't me babe."
---Elder on 12/20/10


elder, welcome, brother!

i don't know if you are a seasoned member of TLINIU (The Light Is Not In You) Club or not. I am a relatively new member if you believe in free will. If you believe in Calvin's version of predetermination, we have both been a member since the beginning.
---aka on 12/20/10


Elder, "because you do this all the time." You speak these lies against the truth-tellers, because there is no light at all in you. But after you get saved then it will not be possible for you to blaspheme, but instead your lips will bring forth truth as God has commanded.
---Eloy on 12/20/10


The moral of the story is that even randomly putting verses together can give a "message" although not necessarily the right one! ---Bruce5656 on 12/17/10

bruce, i know what you mean.

text without context is just a con.
---aka on 12/20/10


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"Yes, saying that the saints are sinners is blasphemy because it is bearing false witness,"
Eloy
Since you do this all the time does that make you a blasphemer or are you exempt because you are equal with God?
---Elder on 12/20/10


\\it is the same thing as wrongly calling a proven righteous\\

But you've not proven yourself righteous, Eloy.

You just want us to think you have done so.
---Cluny on 12/19/10


Darlene 1
No I am not against putting bible versed together to make a point. I am against claiming to be God's oracle no matter what nonsense is supposedly "proven" by citing several verses.

It is true that you can prove just about anything you want to by selecting just the right scriptures. For example, you can prove or disprove eternal security with the selection of just the right verses but both cannot be true.
---Bruce5656 on 12/19/10


\\alan, Yes, saying that the saints are sinners is blasphemy because it is bearing false witness, it is the same thing as wrongly calling a proven righteous and innocent person guilty, which is falsehood and a sin.\\

It was St. John himself who said, "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is NOT in us."

And St. Paul called himself the chief of sinners.
---Cluny on 12/19/10


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Eloy:

Alan's point is an apt reflection of 1 John 1:8:
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
Note that John was writing a pastoral letter to other BELIEVERS, not to unbelievers.

So, if you call Alan a blasphemer, you must call John one as well.

If both sides can quote 1 John to prove their point, with verses that apparently say opposite things, the truth must necessarily be deeper than just black and white. We must realize that BOTH verses are true, so rather than just screaming "Blasphemer! Heretic!" at each other, we must try to understand under which context one applies, and under which context the other applies.
---StrongAxe on 12/19/10


Paul speaks false witness against himself.

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
---aka on 12/19/10


alan, Yes, saying that the saints are sinners is blasphemy because it is bearing false witness, it is the same thing as wrongly calling a proven righteous and innocent person guilty, which is falsehood and a sin.
---Eloy on 12/19/10


Cluny on 12/17/10
Your point, though lost on Eloy, is manifestly clear.
---Bruce5656 on 12/18/10


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//a constant course correction...This is what the Bible teaches.// ---Cluny on 12/18/10

Amen.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:...

this only happens if you are willing to turn from what you know between each level of faith.

...as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
---aka on 12/18/10


\\The publican in the passage was rightly repenting, which his repentancs was not for blaspheming the saints of God, and which repentance you have likewise needs to do yet.
---Eloy on 12/17/10
\\

And are you saying that the Pharisee was not boasting of his righteousness?

IN any case, I repent daily. For the Orthodox, it's not a once-for-all event, but a life-style, a constant course correction.

This is what the Bible teaches.
---Cluny on 12/18/10


Cluny, you continue to blaspheme and misapply nonrelated scriptures to support your sin: " Blessed be you all when which malign you, and will persecute and say all evil word against you, lying falsely, on account of me. Enough that the disciple the person be as one's Master, and the servant as one's Lord. If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, for from the fruit the tree is known. Remember the word that I said to you, If they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. The person that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God."
---Eloy on 12/18/10


Whenever any person blasphemes a proven Christian from Christ and the person misapplies holy scripture in order to support their sin of blasphemy, that is plain evidence that that disser is NonChristian and no part of the body of Christ, and is self-condemned.
---Eloy on 12/18/10


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Bruce I have enjoyed many of your views and perhaps I misunderstood you about not putting Bible verses together to make a point. Did you just mean the Random use? I agree with not using random unrelated ones together. The Bible tells us 2 Timothy 3:16,17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect,thourghly furnished to all good works. If one uses related verses on the same subject it appears then one is doing as the Bible tells us to. Of course always rightly dividing the word of truth 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God,a workman that needs not be ashamed,rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Darlene_1 on 12/18/10


\\The moral of the story is that even randomly putting verses together can give a "message" although not necessarily the right one!
---Bruce5656 on 12/17/10\\

This practice of trying to use the Bible as a Ouija board is called "stichomancy."

It's a form of superstition.
---Cluny on 12/17/10


1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
---aka on 12/17/10


Cluny, again manifesting your impracticality, you commonly misapply scripture to a nonrelated issue. The publican in the passage was rightly repenting, which his repentancs was not for blaspheming the saints of God, and which repentance you have likewise needs to do yet.
---Eloy on 12/17/10


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bruce, My Truth is proven to be The One Truth as eyewitnessed by The published holy Scriptures for whomsoever will read and to know, line upon line, and precept upon precept. And that is why I commonly post the Scriptures with my postings. God is not mocked, and scripture cannot be broken, because The Word will not return void but will accomplish that whereto soever I send it, and all will be fulfilled. Therefore your dissings of The One Proven Truth which I post are your own folly and self-condemnations.
---Eloy on 12/17/10


\\Cluny, I am proven righteous by my manifested Christian works, which I bear from Christ. \\

But the publican, standing afar off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, "God, be merciful to me a sinner."
---Cluny on 12/17/10


Eloy's protestations that we accept his version of truth because he strings certain verses together to prove his point reminds me of the joke about the person who was seeking to know God's will. Deciding to put their finger on a verse at random, they first landed on: "Judas went and hanged himself" Unsatisfied they tried again and found: "Go and do thou likewise." Frustrated they gave it one more try and found: "What thou doest do quickly."

The moral of the story is that even randomly putting verses together can give a "message" although not necessarily the right one!
---Bruce5656 on 12/17/10


Cluny, I am proven righteous by my manifested Christian works, which I bear from Christ. For my heritage is that my righteousness is from the Lord. "Every good tree brings forward good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forward bad fruit. A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire." Mt.7:17-19.
---Eloy on 12/17/10


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-a, Why do you think I post the most Bible on my posts, and in the right context that it is written? It is because there is so much falsehood today that people Need the true Bible for the right direction, and the right answers to their lives, and not what people wrongly say that the Bible says. READ the real Bible passages that I have posted, and not what you think that the Bible says or what others mistakenly tell you what the Bible says.
---Eloy on 12/17/10


\\"Let no person deceive you: whoever does righteousness is righeous, even as Christ is righteous.\\

You actually think you're righteous, Eloy?

Do you also tell God how you fast twice in the week, pay your tithes, and thank Him that you're not like sinners such as people on these blogs who disagree with you?
---Cluny on 12/17/10


Eloy ... So you presumably don't believe the Bible when it says that only Jesus was without sin

And you don't pray the Lord's Prayer, which Jesus told us to pray, which asks "Forgive us our sins"

And you beleive you are the equal of God, in that you can send people to Hell
---a on 12/17/10


"Let no person deceive you: whoever does righteousness is righeous, even as Christ is righteous. Whoever that commits sin is of the devil, for the devil sins from the beginning. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for God's seed remains in that one and that one cannot sin, because that one is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither that one that loves not their brother." I John 3:7-10.
---Eloy on 12/16/10


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alan, you project your own sinning upon the righteous. Not all are sinners like you, neither are all saints like me, for the world is filled with both sinners and saints: but it is pure blatant blasphemy to say a saint is a sinner, and a sinner is a saint. Again, that is why Jesus made a heaven and also he made a hell, one place is for sinners and the other is for saints. On the earth you tares grow side by side with us wheat, and the sin-supporters and antiChrists are very grievous to us: but when the Reaper comes we will be divided, and Christ will separate us his sheep from you goats.
---Eloy on 12/16/10


Sag, it sounds like you went to the same school I did, school of hard knots. :)

I went to Public Schools. Tax-payer financed. No mention of GOD, Christmas, etc. Separation of Church and State. Freedom to do as you please!
---Sag on 12/16/10


Eloy has identified my blasphemy! It is apparently that I have said that only Christ (Jesus) was/is without sin.

Eloy must regard himself as sinless.

I have said that even when saved, we still carry on sinning. Somketimes it is inadvertent, sometimes by habit, sometimes deliberate, or at least we are aware we are sinning.

But being saved, we will be judges y God as if we were sinless.

Eloy will not agree that, but do others thnk I am wrong or right?
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/16/10


Eloy, Alan didn't call saints sinners. No one on earth is a saint,we all were born sinners. When we accept Jesus Christ into our hearts as lord and savior and truly mean it,we are saved and become christians. But we are still sinners,but we are just saved sinners. We don't intentionally live a lifestyle of sin,when we sin we repent from those sins,ask Jesus to forgive us. No one is perfect until we reach Heaven either by death or by Rapture. Also God does send us to hell when we never accept Jesus into our hearts. Jesus is the only way to get to heaven.
---angea on 12/16/10


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alan, no you weren't blaspheming...remember we live to please the Lord, not man. Eat the chicken and spit out the bones.

alan, I have always loved your responses and have learned MUCH from you, so thank you for being the man of God that you are.
P.S. Have you noticed I got off the site for a while? Too many critical people on here, who needs that? I love Jesus and like the blind man said, "I only know one thing, I was blind, but now I see." God Bless you alan, you're a great brother in the Lord Jesus Christ.
---Donna5535 on 12/16/10


mark 2:4-6 a paralyze man was lowered down the opening. when christ saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man 'YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN'
but when the teachers of the law heard that christ said 'your sins are forgiven' they said 'why does this fellow talk like that? HE IS BLASPHEMING! who can forgive sins but god alone.
claiming to be god is blasphemy.
---mike on 12/16/10


Eloy ... please be specific. In which of these three statements was I being blasphemous?

That only Jesus is sinless

That The Lord's prayer (which Jesus taught us)says "Forgive our sins"

That only God can judge and send people to Hell
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/16/10


\\"blasphemy" means, to speak evil of or to God, or, evil of or to sacred persons or sacred thing\\

Which one of these three do you think you are, Eloy?

1. Sacred person.

2. Sacred thing.

3. God.
---Cluny on 12/16/10


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alan, yes, I already gave you the definition of blasphemy. "blasphemy" means, to speak evil of or to God, or, evil of or to sacred persons or sacred things. It is calling good evil, the truth a lie, and the Holy unholy. You have called the saint a sinner, but the sheep is not a goat, neither is the righteous the sinuous, that is blasphemy: for God's children are even as our Father is: "because as he is, so are we in this world." I John 4:17. And God does not send people to hell, people condemn themselves to hell by rejecting Christ and choosing sin rather than the life of Christ for themselves.
---Eloy on 12/16/10


Sag, it sounds like you went to the same school I did, school of hard knots. :)
---Rod4Him on 12/16/10


Many people have been wrongly taught that you should NEVER leave the church that you were raised in. In addition, you should NOT visit churches that are outside of your original church's denomination.

Whoever came up with that stuff? It's all man-made reasoning because the Bible doesn't say that. We are ALL ONE in Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:23-29. HIS church is the only one that matters. Amen!

There are are many, many things that we need to "spiritually" DISCERN as being Biblical or NOT.

Sounds like Alan's so-called "blasphemy" was NOT that at all.
---Sag on 12/16/10


Alan8566 of UK No,How can it be blapheming when you are quoting God's own Word. It is God who judges and there're many verses telling us to fear him. The Bible says Proverbs 9:10 The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom:and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding. Luke 12:5- Fear him who after he has killed has power to cast into hell,-. God judged many enemies of Israel and they will be in hell. Self proclaimmed judges can't get you to heaven or cast into hell. Their words are like wells without water. We stand or fall to our own Master,God Romans 14:4. He alone has the authority and power to judge Matthew 28:18 Jesus spoke,all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
---Darlene_1 on 12/16/10


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Why would they call those three statementsblaslpheming? There is nothing wrong with those statements, in fact, they are true.
---wivv on 12/16/10


I have learned to: LAUGH at these ridiculous comments and FORGIVE the errant, outspoken, authors. GOD will tell you if you say anything wrongly.

I have been told that Christians should ONLY attend Christian schools and colleges. Hmmm. What if you, and your parents, don't have the money for that?

I once told a friend that "GOD didn't provide the money for me to attend Christian schools and colleges". My friend immediately lashed back at me: That is BLASPHEMY. Oh, Really? That was the end of our friendship. And I have never visited another Baptist church after his ridiculous outburst.

Maybe this was a "test" of my ability to FORGIVE on the spot. Praise GOD that I can!
---Sag on 12/16/10


NO, you were NOT blaspheming. You are going with the Bible. Do NOT listen to anyone that says these statements are blasphemis, because according to the Bible they have a spirit of Anti-Christ in them, and are NOT of God.
---Leslie on 12/16/10


I think you were saying exactly the right thing.

There is someone on here (who shall be nameless) who apparently confuses himself with God, because he says that people who disagree with him are blaspheming him.
---Cluny on 12/15/10


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No,Alan you weren't blaspheming. You were only saying the truth and what Gods word says. The bible does say that Jesus is sinless,the Lord's prayers does say Forgives our sins,and that Only God himself And Jesus can judge and send people to hell. And the only way anyone can go to hell is by not accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. The bible says He will forgive us our sins if we forgive others for their sins as well. So if someone did us wrong,we should forgive them if we want the Lord to forgive us. But if we choose to not forgive the other person,how can the Lord forgive us? If we do our part by forgiving others,whether or not that other person accepts it or not,we have done our part and our hands are clean in that matter.
---angea on 12/16/10


Alan first look at who told you that. Read some of the other comments by this same person. (By the way I did not see the post myself.) Next, what was your intent? I know that you had no such thing in mind.
We now have a group on CN that is not part of the "forum family." They are "outsiders" who are here to distort the truth.
You spoke truth. Did you expect those who oppose truth to not come after you?
---Elder on 12/16/10


Alan, Don't pay no mind to what "people say"!
What you say is your personal belief or opinion as are what others opine!
I see no blasphemy here but personally don't believe God barbeque's humans in a literal lake of fire!
Is there a lake of fire burning somewhere under ground on this planet? Fire needs oxygen to burn, there's none "underground"!
Even volcanos do not "flame" 'till the lava reaches the surface and air!
---1st_cliff on 12/16/10


There are many Biblically incompetent fools who blog on ChristiaNet. The statement that you were blaspheming was made by one of them. I see nothing in your statement that would constitute blaspheming, God the father and God the father alone makes judgement in the final outcome of individuals.

Simply take the state for what it was the action of a fool and press on with your business of the day.
---Blogger9211 on 12/16/10


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