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Are Some Churches Unbiblical

Why is it there are so many Churches which claim to be Christian. Yet when you watch their Church Services, you see them doing some of the very things Christ Himself rebuked the Pharisees for doing?

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2000+ different denominsation claiming to be teaching the truth while each teaching differently on the same subject. Anyone who cares about truth will agree that these all cannot be teaching the truth.

Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

The bible prophesied that there will be "churches" Who simple want to be called " christ's" but they will teach their own doctrines, and have their righteousness.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

END OF STORY!!
---francis on 1/26/11


With what the Lord Jesus Christ in Matt.13: 24-30 about the enemy sowing the tares among the wheat, we should not be surprised that some so called "churches" are breeding evil habits today. We must therefore watch & pray that we would not be led astray also.
---Adetunji on 1/26/11


cluny
This Truth. There Is only One God with just One Church with just One salvation plan from God Acts 2 v 38 to the Jewish people First on the day of Pentecost, with just One sheep fold.

All others came from here, 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 beginning with the rcc, Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, with folds of goats, foxes etc. Even those that worship the gods of buddha, islam etc., Will fall in line also.
---Lawrence on 1/26/11


\\Again cluny, you don't disturb me with your comments. The devil sure keeps you disturbed with them though.
---Lawrence on 12/30/10\\

I'm grieved that you say that, Lawrence.

All you're saying is that your heart is hardened against the truth.
---Cluny on 1/25/11


Donna66: Thanks for expressing my sentiments on the brotherhood of ALL believers. Sadly, many Christians believe in the doctrine of "salvation by denomination".
---jerry6593 on 1/2/11




Donna66: Lovely comment about all being Churches

Perhaps we should not argue so much about minor things!
---peter3594 on 12/31/10


Again cluny, you don't disturb me with your comments. The devil sure keeps you disturbed with them though.
---Lawrence on 12/30/10


Donna66, you are so right in what you say. The elect come from all corners of the earth, if it had corners. From every nation for no one knows who they are and who will believe. We can argue doctrines, and oppose actions in some institutions, but we can never say that no one will be saved in some place or another since we have no clue who God will bring out of darkness into the light. Only He knows.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/10


Donna 66 ... YES!
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/29/10


If you live in Philadelphia and I live in Phoenix, which of us is more "American"?
The Universal Church, which is the body of Christ, is made up of different organizations that do not always agree on what is "scriptural". However the Gospel does not depend on detailed interpretation.

Jn1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

They who receive Him could be Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Baptist, Assembly of God, Lutheran, Presbyterian...
1Jn4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
---Donna66 on 12/29/10




John's statement is over the top as we know there is always a faithful remnant that God has reserved and preserved for his own witness.
The reason why so many churches drift is because they do not preach and stress personal holiness. Holiness is necessary to be in sync with God but people would rather tickled with homilies and generalities from folks like Joel Osteen.
As Dr. Menninger said in his book decades ago "Whatever became of Sin?"
---larry on 12/28/10


Leej
Its a general statement on the condition of the churches today.

It's one mans opinion.
---John on 12/28/10


Cluny: "Where do you have a preacher WITH the Bible in the Bible"

Luk 4:15-17 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias.

That should suffice as a precedent.
---jerry6593 on 12/29/10


if two people and i meet at 9a on Sat or Sun to build old lady Jones a set of new stairs on her porch that used to be very dangerous, eat a few sandwiches together, share a few scriptures and anecdotes that relate, and go home to their family to share with them, where is the imperfection?

haven't they come together in His name, shared communion, and shared fellowship? isn't this church?
---aka on 12/29/10


Many churches are Bible based. Many are not totally correct in their behaviour and actions or doctrines. But only a few do not really believe the Bible. Some put tradition and prophets Like Joseph Smith above the Bible yet even they do still use the Bible to some extent.
---Samuel on 12/29/10


Donna66, you are so right with your answer. Many of the people in a church do not know what is done with the money. They only give and trust that the funds are used wisely for the church, pastor and for mission's. I believe we give with our heart some thing that doesn't belong to us anyway, for everything belongs to God. Many miss use the funds, but they are responsible for their lives before God. Of course if we see that funds are miss use, we should say something about it. But our giving is but a small part of our sacrifice for the cause of God. We should give with an open heart, if it hurts then people should not give.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/10


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John //Actually the better question would have been... "Are any churches biblical? ANSWER: NO!!!!

Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

Mt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.

And is that not the church?

Churches are biblical howbeit, none are infallible in either practice or interpretation. In fact, some are even viewed as cults.
---leej on 12/28/10


Actually the better question would have been... "Are any churches biblical?

ANSWER: NO!!!!
---John on 12/28/10


---shirley is the Catholic Church trying to follow the teachings of Jesus( thou shall have no other gods before me) when they have their followers pray to Mary?

---shirley are the Mormons trying to follow the teachings of Jesus when they believe the story told by Joseph Smith?

I think not!!!
---mima on 12/28/10


Give me a break! Yes some are unbiblical but most TRY to follow the teachings of Christ.
---shirley on 12/28/10


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Donna I am thankful to the Lord for you.
---mima on 12/28/10


\\it is obvious Cluny that carla was talking about preachers who preach away from the biblical doctrines. not about preachers who do not hold a giant book during preaching. i preach i do not hold a book but i make sure that my preaching does not contradict God's word. ever\\

Is it obvious?

It's hard to tell sometimes JUST what people mean here.
---Cluny on 12/28/10


Mima- I know that not all missions use the donations they get JUST as the giver directs.

People who donate like to know exactly where their money goes. Thus, more will be donated if people are allowed to specify what part of a ministry they want to give to. If given a choice between ministering to adults, or poor homeless children, or maintaining the building and grounds of a mission...guess which will get the most money. The kids win every time!

But adults need ministry too, and buildings cannot be allowed to fall apart just because everybody wants to give to poor little children.
The best thing you can do for any ministry you trust is to desigate your funds for "wherever needed most".
---Donna66 on 12/27/10


Sorry for your misunderstanding Cluny!

I posted as an example of TBN preachers who stand for hours pumping their congratulations with vain conotations instead of feeding the flock with the word of God.

I have no time for arguments God is not the author of confusion Bless you!
---Carla on 12/28/10


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\\I am sick of the rubbish taught in churches today especially the notion that you have a preacher without a Bible.\\

Where do you have a preacher WITH the Bible in the Bible, Carla--especially since the Bible was in the process of formation at the time it was written?

it is obvious Cluny that carla was talking about preachers who preach away from the biblical doctrines. not about preachers who do not hold a giant book during preaching. i preach i do not hold a book but i make sure that my preaching does not contradict God's word. ever.
---andy3996 on 12/28/10


\\I am sick of the rubbish taught in churches today especially the notion that you have a preacher without a Bible.\\

Where do you have a preacher WITH the Bible in the Bible, Carla--especially since the Bible was in the process of formation at the time it was written?
---Cluny on 12/27/10


Your right I have seen that alot and it was shown to me to also take heed to some of the prophets,preachers,and gospel singers for they use Gods name in vain for money and you will b shocked about what they do behind closed doors and most of them have been exsposed for bearing false witnessing so keep your eyes and ears wide open
---Briteny on 12/27/10


Churches are religious and that is what is wrong with modern day church.

I choose not to be fooled into a system that regards some of the New Testament rules and others that ignorantly worship traditions more than the ones we are asked to keep in the New Testament.

No church is absolute but when you adhere to the written word you can attend where you find most things measure up to The examples Apostle Paul Gave instructions to do.

I am sick of the rubbish taught in churches today especially the notion that you have a preacher without a Bible. TBN teachers!
---Carla on 12/27/10


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\\Maybe I've just had "one too many" bad experiences with telephone callers asking for donations, money, volunteers, etc.\\

I NEVER give to such.

When I can, I give a special donation to my church's charitable fund for those who come seeking assistance.
---Cluny on 12/27/10


I have visited several missionaries, twice the visits were on short notice and a surprise to the missionaries. I found out from the visits that money I had given was not being spent the way they said it was being spent. And from that comes the following policy. Today I only give money to causes that I know where the money is going and to whom.
---mima on 12/27/10


Sag-- I understand your point AND Cluny's as well.
I prefer to give anonomously, but I wouldn't give to any organization I didn't know well enough to trust, or at least be able to check out their integrity.
---Donna66 on 12/27/10


"Proof is in the putting, not in the saying". Talk is cheap, but the words of the worthy are proven with works. Only the doers of righteousness are saved, not the lip-servers of sin. Real Christians "talk-the-talk, AND WALK-THE-WALK". If looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck and not a Christian.
---Eloy on 12/27/10


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Some churches in Revelation are the church of satan and that is unbibical.
---tonne on 12/27/10


The best way to do that is to allow someone else to distribute your alms, that is, act as your almoner.
---Cluny on 12/26/10

Thanks for the advice.

Maybe I've just had "one too many" bad experiences with telephone callers asking for donations, money, volunteers, etc.
---Sag on 12/26/10


Most churches are unbiblical because their foundational doctrines stem from man-made traditions and pagan customs rather than from the Bible.
---jerry6593 on 12/27/10


AKA, I like what you said when you said,

"no matter where you are or who you are with, keep your focus on the Truth."

Now that is the Truth. The question was raised by Pilate after Jesus had told him "Everyone who is of the Truth hears My voice" and Pilate ask, "What is the Truth?" so in response to Jesus mention of "truth" in v. 37, Pilate responsded rhetorically with cynicism, convinced that no answer existed to the question. The response proved that he was not among those whom the Father had given to the Son for (Everyone who is of the Truth hears My voice). The real Truth was in front of him speaking to him, he just didn't see the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/10


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The visible church (howsoever you define "church") will always have imperfections and flaws in it, because it's make up of imperfect and flawed people such as you and me.
---Cluny on 12/26/10


\\I just don't like how some churches insist on your bringing things to a certain donation site, or mail checks to a certain address, and they will distribute things. While this might be convenient for some some people, I prefer to deliver things myself. That way, I KNOW that my donations get to their proper destinations.\\

Jesus said that when you give alms, don't let your right hand know what your left hand does.

The best way to do that is to allow someone else to distribute your alms, that is, act as your almoner.
---Cluny on 12/26/10


And that is clearly not the doctrine you believe, Lawrence.
---Cluny on 12/26/10


Sorry.
Again, Acts 2 v 42. The Apostles doctrine, which Is Apostolic, the teachings of the Apostles beginning with Apostle Peter First on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2 v 38. If it wasn't valid by God, it wouldn't be in His Word to be preached. We are hated for Jesus name & for
The Gospel Truths sake. Thank God He brought me out from the(bapt)that' that which is Not His.

ALL other teachings came from here, 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 beginning with the trin rcc & with her daughters churches & ends up here Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, then to the burning lake. Even those that worship the gods of islam, buddha etc.
---Lawrence on 12/26/10


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I don't have any problem with giving. That may involve: TIME, MONEY, CLOTHES, FOOD, etc.

I just don't like how some churches insist on your bringing things to a certain donation site, or mail checks to a certain address, and they will distribute things. While this might be convenient for some some people, I prefer to deliver things myself. That way, I KNOW that my donations get to their proper destinations.

Some of the people that visit my church, and ask for these donations, seem to react with "shock" at my methodology here. I wonder why?

I often get the idea that I just robbed them of their "lunch money" or "things for pawning". Well, that's why I prefer to deliver things MYSELF.
---Sag on 12/26/10


donna66, that was well put.
---aka on 12/26/10


\\What you say cluny don't disturb me & besides I don't have a mam - made church. \\

Yes, you do, Lawrence.

TOTALLY man-made.

Denying it won't change that fact.

And while we're on the subject, para-church organizations are responsible to NOBODY but themselves.

Jesus didn't found independent ministries.

He founded A (singular) Church.
---Cluny on 12/26/10


aka-- I agree. Some might conclude from what they read, that those in "para-church" organizations are necessarily more "Christian" than regular church-goers. As you point out, other organizations have their faults too...even serious ones.

ANY Christian, in any setting, may be doing the Lord's work. The private witness and Christ-inspired generosity of a regular church member is more likely to go unrecognized. It's a fallacy to believe that someone who is in the pew on Sundays is not serving the Lord at other times.
---Donna66 on 12/25/10


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there are many para-christian organizations that have a form of godliness. e.g. the Navigators. they have steered way off course leading many astray. the focus is "psychologizing" the gospel & ecumenism. Chuck Colsen has a prison ministry and he is also ecumenical.

i am not attempting to pull up the weeds. i just want you realize with whom you may bump elbows when serving. today, i met a man who does a lot of work in a certain church's homeless center, who also brushed on his belief in kabbalistic teachings.

no matter where you are or who you are with, keep your focus on the Truth.
---aka on 12/25/10


Trinity not in Bible, but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is. The mystery of Godliness...indisputable (1Ti 3:16).

hell-fire...read all of Jer.7:31...about human sacrifice in the valley of Gehenna, intended to be a refuse dump and not a post-partem sacrifice/abortion site. Jesus used Gehenna as a comparison to spiritual "pain" that those who reject the Truth will feel when they are separated from the Father permanently come judgment day that those felt physically when they were sacrificed.

Ezk.18:4, read whole chapter, and make no decisions based on one verse...same with next...


-1Co 15:12 Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
---aka on 12/25/10



True Christians are the ones involved in the parachurch organizations - jail ministries, homeless shelders, Bible distributors, Navigators and other small type ministries.

---leej on 12/25/10

Right On!

Many people who claim to be Christians have been raised, taught, and led to believe that attending a brick-and-mortar Church, and giving money to that Church, is "the mark" of a true Christian. Well, Jesus Christ didn't do any that in the Bible.

Meanwhile, those of us involved in these parachurch or outreach ministries seem to get little recognition or respect for our efforts.

That's OK with me. GOD knows the true condition of our hearts. GOD will give each of us our reward for serving HIM.
---Augie on 12/25/10


Parish bulletins are NOT the official spokesmen for the Roman Catholic Church.
---Cluny on 12/25/10

It does not matter which paper printed it. If the Pope went on CNN and said the same thing would you say that it is untrue because CNN is not a catholic network.

What makes these statement true, is not only that many offercers of the RCC has made that statement openly, but the scriptures prove it.

Cardinals, priest and popes have made the statement to one paper or another that the only biblical church is the SDA church.
---francis on 12/25/10


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What you say cluny don't disturb me & besides I don't have a mam - made church.

Acts 2 v 42 which Is Apostolic, the teaching of the Apostles. If it wasn't valid, it would be in The Word of God.

The only validation off the Man - made churches beginning with the rcc, Is Prov.14 v 12 & Rev.17 v's 4 - 6.
---Lawrence on 12/25/10


//Close observance of churches today will show you many of the true Church members (the called out ones) are outside of the denominational churches.

And that in part, is bec we have such poor leadership in the institutionalized churches. They often get too bogged down in the power structure and are all too often out of step with what is happening with the rank and file. And then they get upset when Christians leave for other denominations.

One such denomination lost over 160,000 members last year alone and the hierarchy still cannnot figure out why.

True Christians are the ones involved in the parachurch organizations - jail ministries, homeless shelders, Bible distributors, Navigators and other small type ministries.
---leej on 12/25/10


Is it required of a church calling itself "Christian" to be perfect in all beliefs and practices? Probably every church you attend has some pharisees (they might even be you..unaware though you may be). Some of the contributors here who sound so disenchanted have probably failed to find a "perfect" church. And their concept of "perfect" is the the only one that counts.

Some churches are based on certain false doctrines. Those churches are easy to avoid. Otherwise remember that church members, clergy as well, are human beings. If Christ is lifted up and a spirit of love prevails, don't let minor "faults" keep you away.Even Christ himself may visit such a church and bless it.
---Donna66 on 12/25/10


\\They are in fact engaged in "altar calls" type ministries.\\

Which is a practice NOWHERE in the Bible.

What you are saying, mima, is the false teaching of the "invisible church."

In all of Christ's parables about the Church, it's something quite visible.
---Cluny on 12/25/10


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Despite what mima thinks of Jehovah's Witnesses and their Kingdom Halls, JW's believe what the Bible teaches.

Unlike many other so called 'Christian' religions who base their worship on un-scriptural teachings, such as

- trinity (1 Cor.15:28)
- hell-fire (Jer.7:31 & 32:35)
- immortality of the human soul (Ezk.18:4)

'Trinity' is not found in the Bible. Neither is hell-fire unless you use a trinitarian Bible (Jesus used the word 'Gehenna' and not hell). Immortality of the soul is from Egypt and Babylonian religions. 'Babylon the Great' today imitates her ancient counterpart. Rev.18:2,4.
---David8318 on 12/25/10


Close observance of churches today will show you that many many of the true Church members (the called out ones) are outside of the denominational churches.
And many of these members are in small ministries that are concerned with evangelism(preaching and teaching what is required for salvation)!!!!
They are in fact engaged in "altar calls" type ministries.
---mima on 12/25/10


Amen, Shawn.M.T on 12/23/10

Mat 13:24-30...

this is supposed to be.

kingdom of heaven is in our heart and it is 24/7. wherever the kingdom of God is, you can be sure tares will be there also until it's time to gather the weeds to burn and wheat to gather in His barn, the only true church that ever was and will be.
---aka on 12/25/10


//PLEASE do not hold me accountable for what the RCC leaders say. PS baptist say the same thing too// --francis on 12/25/10

i would never hold you responsible for this error.

It is a good thing my Advocate speaks the Truth through the Truth unlike the Saint Catherine Catholic Church Sentinel, Peter R Tramor, and the baptists, and the SDAs, and other denominations, and all religion.
---aka on 12/25/10


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\\People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become Seventh-Day Adventists..\\

Parish bulletins are NOT the official spokesmen for the Roman Catholic Church.

In any case, as everybody knows, SDA doctrine is NOT based on the Bible, but on the ravings of Ellen G. White.
---Cluny on 12/25/10


Candice: Your response is the most accurate in my opinion. The true church is indeed God's people, not a building or even a denomination. There are good people and bad people (wheat and tares) within and without ALL Christian denominations. The right church for our association is the one that most closely teaches the truth of the Bible. It is our job to not only find that church, but to try and convert as many tares into wheat as possible.
---jerry6593 on 12/25/10


If you have any doubts about biblical and unbiblical churches, listen to the RCC:

People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become Seventh-Day Adventists.. Saint Catherine Catholic Church Sentinel, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995.

We also say that of all Protestants the Seventh Day Adventist are the only group that reason correctly and are consistent with their teaching... Peter R Tramor, the editor of The Catholic Extension magazine

PLEASE do not hold me accountable for what the RCC leaders say. PS baptist say the same thing too
---francis on 12/25/10


So Rob, there you have it!

The only true church you have is You, The Bible, and your Teachers...

HERE ARE YOUR TEACHERS...

"But do not be called Rabbi(teacher), for One is your Teacher,

(Holy Spirit).

"Do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.

(G-d The Father)

"Do not be called leaders, for One is your Leader, that is, Christ


Therein lies your chruch

The rest(for the most part) are pure garbage!
---John on 12/24/10


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\\Man - made trin rcc, then her offspring daughters churches cc, luth, presby, bapt etc came later, in what ever order.
---Lawrence on 12/24/10
\\

And then your man-made church came after that, Lawrence.
---Cluny on 12/24/10


There were some assemblies before The Church of The Living God was born on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2 v's 37 - 42. The Early Church. Apostolic which Is the teachings of the Apostles, which Is still valid today.

2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 started more assemblies, beginning the Man - made trin rcc, then her offspring daughters churches cc, luth, presby, bapt etc came later, in what ever order.
---Lawrence on 12/24/10


Rob, the visible church is mixed with wheat and tare's. That is the way it's been from the beginning. Some visible churches do not have a single believer in them. Many pastors are made pastors because some times there is no one to take the job. So they do what they can on what they know. If they were taught wrong, their message will be wrong. But if there is genuine believers present, they will know what is Truth and what is not if they themselves study Scripture for God will reveal the Truth to them. God will not fail the believer, for He will provide every spiritual gift necessary for him and will sustain him through Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/24/10


Some churches are nonChristian and are the synagogues of satan.
---Eloy on 12/24/10


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Grace Based Carnal "Christians" are extremely ignorant of their faith. WILLFULLY IGNORANT. due to their concept of Alta calls (Get out of hell)prayer ticket salvation. Once save who cares about that guy Jesus. "I just know I'm save by Grace, that's all that matters."

Completely ignorant of their Judaic Root.

HERE'S QUESTIONS ASKED TO ME BY THEIR ELDERS..

1) Did Abraham meet G-d before he became President?

2) Martin Luther did a lot for Afican Americans.

3)Is Jesus a Jew?

4) At least Pauls(AKA Saul) wasn't a Jew.
on and on...

WHAT FUNDI PSEUDO BELIEVE...

"THAT JESUS FOUGHT FOR OLD GLORY AGAINST THOSE LEGALISTIC JEWS. HE LATER DIED IN THE CALVARY."
---John on 12/23/10


No church on this earth is 100% as it should be. Every church on this earth at one time or another has a Pastor,teacher,or member who does something not Biblical. They all want to do whats right and line up with Gods Word but follow Denominational doctrines which are faulty. The churches and people,who really are the church,do the best they know how with what they know,see,learn,believe,and have. There is no perfect church,denomination,or Christian that I have ever heard of or seen. That doesn't mean they don't love the Lord and serve him. It doesn't mean that some aren't very wonderful people.
---Darlene_1 on 12/23/10


God said love me with all thy heart, mind, soul, spirit and strength. God did not say to love church, religion, practices, and rituals- only principles of life. If you follow principles of life then you wouldn't have to be governed by institutions like church.
---Andre on 12/23/10


Even in "Christian" churches, there are some things that I don't like.

I attend a Catholic church. Some good points are: Support of famililes and Opposition to abortion. Well, I have had some "surprises".

I always seem to meet: Speakers, Visitors, Lobbyists, etc. from Pro-Family, Pro-Life, and Political groups. They always ask for Monetary donations, and/or, volunteers for "Abortion Protest Marches", etc.

There have been times when I've decided to NOT give any of my "Time" and "Money". Freedom of Choice. Other folks in my church have called me: Unfaithful, Pro-Abortion, etc.

Not very Christian talk. I wasn't not sinning or anything. Cool it folks!
---Sag on 12/23/10


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This is all a sign of the end times, which we are in. If you read the Bible you will know that Jesus said there would be great deception, false teachers/christs/prophets, apostisy, haters of truth, wolves in sheeps clothing, tares in the wheat, angels of light - we see all of this today, including in the church.
---Leslie on 12/23/10


Dear John, the correct Scripture declared by Christ was "for many be called, but few chosen" Matthew 20:16 and not "Many will be called, but FEW will be chosen." Meaning, salvation is unconditional in the eyes of God.

It is true that the call of the Gospel is universal (repent or perish) but the "few chosen" has already been decided by God as Scripture clearly declares, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." Ephesians 1:4 - This is the very heart of the Gospel, that salvation is by Grace and Grace alone.
---christan on 12/23/10


Churches are the people, not just a building to go to for service. if you have the bible & study it for yourselves to get the right mind, & donot lean on mans opinions or manmade doctrines then you have the truth. the problem arises within the fellowships because some want to stick with church traditions over Gods word. YES we NEED fellowship, sometimes though to be right with God the fellowship can be limited, but a rare gem is indeed a good one. So instead of "church hunting" for a perfect building which there isn't one, just share with others what GOd has done for you & yes it can catch on & blossem to a true fellowship, but leave your opinions at the door.
---Candice on 12/23/10


Because 99.9999% of so called church are NOT Christian. They are merely social clubs infested with "mens Traditions being preach as Doctrine". From the Ortho/RCC to the latest rock/Roll (ain't Jesus cool) Ricky Warren churches.
They are all apostate.

Because people today want to hear "what tickles their ear".
(")from scripture)

Older church are Pagan
Today you have the 1 minute (get out of hell)prayer ticket/then have the Glutton Fatted pig of Potluck.

THEY make a Decision(APPROVAL) for Jesus.

They are nothing more than CARNAL, BOURGOISE, PSUEDO CHRISTIANS. You will find it very very hard to find a real Christian today. Many will be called, but FEW will be chosen.
VERY VERY FEW!
---John on 12/23/10


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\\mixed churches have some biblical standing and other practices that are extra- biblical or outside of the Bible.
---mima on 12/23/10\\

You're quite right, mima.

Among other practices nowhere mentioned in the Bible are revivals, invitation hymns, altar calls, hymnals themselves, sinner's prayers, pews, Sunday Schools.....the list goes on and on.
---Cluny on 12/23/10


Yes!!! Absolutely!!! Churches like the Mormon Church are completely outside of the Bible. Jehovah witnesses" Kingdom Halls" would also fall in this category. And then we have the mixed churches, mixed churches have some biblical standing and other practices that are extra- biblical or outside of the Bible.
---mima on 12/23/10


Sad but so, tragic but true, there are churches today that are nothing more than social clubs with tax exemption. There are various reasons for this. One is the "pendulum" has swung to the social side because for a long time it was only on the spiritual side, and ignoring the social. What is needed is a balance. Another problem is the fact that the New Age movement has gotten into many of our churches, and they don't even believe in salvation. They add just enough Christianity to be accepted. There's lots more reasons, but this will give you some idea. That's why a person has to really "check out" any church they plan on attending or joining.
---wivv on 12/23/10


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