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Explain Parable Of Sower

What do the seeds in the (Matthew 13:3-8) Parable represent?

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David---What you say about the womb is true. But I don't think it was what Jesus meant when he gave and EXPLAINED this parable. It was rare for
Jesus to explain, in such detail, the meaning of any of His parables. But when He does, I think we must be careful not to tack our own understanding onto it.

Of course, the Holy Spirit Himself, my reveal to us further applications, of the parable. But the original message of the sower and the seed is not complex. The disciples, unsophisticated as they were, seemed to have no trouble understanding it.
---Donna66 on 1/12/11


Vs18-23When anyone hears the word of the kingdom,and does not understand it,the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart.This is he who received seed by the wayside.He who received the seed on stony places,is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy,yet has no root in himself,but endures only for a while. When tribulation or persecution arises because of the word,immediately he stumbles.He who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word-the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word-he becomes unfruitful.But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces:some a hundredfold, some sixty,some thirty.
---char on 1/11/11


Leslie shared it nicely by saying "Our fruit is what we produce. We are not saved by our fruit..." We're Saved by Christ the Word of God made flesh, but our Fruit is the evidence of God's Word working through us.
---Shawn.M.T. on 1/11/11


Well then the fruit is NOT whar WE produce. If it's GOD's WORD working through us, then it's HIS WORD producing fruit.

John 15, abide in me and I in you as YE can do NOTHING with out me.

I can do all things THROUGH Christ...I am crucified with christ, no longer I BUT CHRIST who lives in me.

But That comes ONLY after one is Crucified with Christ.


---kathr4453 on 1/11/11


Again: How did any soil become GOOD if the soil represents our heart.


The types of soil are the hearts of people who receive the Word and how differently they react to the Word.---Leslie on 1/4/11

Leslie
I can see why you believe the seed in the parable is the word of God, but you say here that the soil in the parable represents the Hearts of Men.
The parable says, the seed which grew and produced fruit, was that seed which fell on the "Good" Soil.

If what you say is true, the Hearts of those who are called would have to be "Good" before the seed was sown for it to produce fruit.
Question:
How did their hearts become "Good" before the seed was sown?
---David on 1/6/11
---kathr4453 on 1/11/11


The parable of the seeds is one of the most powerful parables told be Jesus. Whenever the word or prompting by the holy spirit happens there are 4 different reactions to it. If you are not saved by Christ it is to accept him as Savior.
For Christians it is to follow his directions. Ex. God tells you to go do something. you and me can think that is wrong (first seed), or work hard at first then get lazy (second seed), or worried about money, time or family issues (third seed), and finally success accomplish what God wanted you to do and you get fruit from it (forth seed). you can change between seeds every moment and you are not always a 4th seed.
---Scott on 1/11/11




-- Ginger :

The Bible does not say we get the HS before we get saved--Ginger

Sister, Neither have I, why aren't you listening !!!

I've already shared that the word "Seed" represents Christ/God's Word, but in 'The Parable of the Sower' it states "Seeds", with an "s" which represents the Word... as Jesus Himself explained which you'd do well to accept !!!

It's you Ginger who's hung up on needing to be right so much so you're willing to add to what the Parable ACTUALLY says... which can/has lead individual far from the Truth by making them believe Salvation can be lose b/c they think the seeds(as you put it) is Christ, taken away.

Good Day
---Shawn.M.T on 1/11/11


Kathr ... You describe the Word very clearly, all that Jesus taught us, and all that the Bible teaches us. (I don,t see why you object to the history that the bible gives us being included as part of God's teaching)

But Jesus Himself is The Word ... and was right from the beginning. Now He is not the Bible, and the Bible is not Him. The parables and the Psalms did not dies for us.

Jesus the Word died for us.

The Bible (also known as teaches us about that and the history that led up to HIm being here with us.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/11/11


Alan, In strongs the WORD is given the definition of LOGOS.

In the OT GOD spoke THROUGH prophets and angels, TODAY He has spoken through His Son, Jesus Christ.

When Jesus speaks, even in parables, it is GOD telling us something very important.

John 3:16 example. Jesus stated this, yet had not gone to the cross when He said it. Does that nullify the FACT that God indeed GAVE Jesus to die on a cross, a gift to you and me, that if we believe and receive that gift we will have eternal life.

To say there are no cross references to John 3:16, or that it meant something else, because Jesus hadn't died and rose again, is what some are saying here concerning the parable.

We're not talking about Bible History at all.
---kathr4453 on 1/11/11


Leslie, you explained it very well in such a short space. Parable should be understood by Christians. Maybe not right away but you will understand it. The Holy Spirit will not lead you astray. The parables have a purpose for the believer and no purpose for the Lost, that is why they were given by Jesus. If our hearts are interested on the Truth, God will provide that Truth for us. Thank you Leslie for your comment which contained Truth.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/11


if i said through the Spirit, aren't we at a stalemate?

again, one shows up saying that we must listen to him because of Divine revelation.

the words of the Scripture is clear in this parable because Jesus explains it, yet you have a different meaning from the Spirit. My question now is what spirit?
---aka on 1/11/11




Shawn,
understand that Jesus explained that HE is the word/seed.
He is the seed that must be planted in you for you to bare the fruit Leslie is talking about. 30, 60, 100.
Without Christ, we could never bare the fruit of the HS.
We cannot bare any good fruit without Christ in our heart.
Why do you not listen?
Christ is the seed that bares the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Without Christ in us and us in him, we cannot have the Holy Holy Spirit in us. Without Christ we cannot be sealed by the Holy Spirit.
Or do you think we get the HS before we get saved?
The Bible certainly does not say that, Shawn.
Im done since you refuse to listen and always have to be right.
---ginger on 1/11/11


ShawnMT, donna66 made that comment to me.

But I don't believe or have ever said this text teaches one can lose their salvation.

I also believe another supporting text is found in John 6.

Multitudes heard Jesus preach, He fed them, they saw His miracles, however we do see, they DEPARTED when Jesus said, "to eat my flesh and drink my blood". They were OFFEDNED just like those in the parable.

Jesus then asked his disciples, will you betray me too? Those He referred to as betraying Him were those who walkied away, also was put in the same category as Judas.

Many can hear and get emotionally excited. But we're not saved by emotions, but by faith. TRUE faith has evidence. Faith without works is DEAD FAITH.
---kathr4453 on 1/11/11


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Brethren, We're not always immediately Fruitful in Understanding every aspect of God's Word, but that doesn't mean Christ has left us or that we have left Christ, it just means there's some worldly conformity which we're in need of departing from, so that our minds may be renewed & we may be transformed into Fruitfully producing & proving what is that Good, Acceptable & Perfect Will of God. Rom.12:2

Leslie shared it nicely by saying "Our fruit is what we produce. We are not saved by our fruit..." We're Saved by Christ the Word of God made flesh, but our Fruit is the evidence of God's Word working through us.
---Shawn.M.T. on 1/11/11


Kathr ... You just have not understood what I was saying ... perhaps I did not put it well!

The Word means two different things.

Firstly, the Word was was God and was with God in the beginning and became flesh, as Jesus. So Jesus is the Word. Our Saviour, and our God.

Second, the Word is the message of love and salvation, as expressed and told us in the Bible, togetehr with all the history behind it, about Creation and all that Jesus did and said.

Jesus is the Word, but He is not the Bible

Nor is the Bible Jesus.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/11/11


To Everybody:
As you all know, the interpretation of a parable must be given to us through the teachings of the Holy spirit, not through the teachings of man or their commentaries.

I, like most, had read this Parable many times, and each time, I tried to figure out it's meaning.
I eventually gave up trying to figure it out, knowing that one day the Lord, when I was ready, would give to me, it's meaning.
That one day finally came as I sat before the Lord in silence.

My friend's
Please don't think that I am being haughty when I say this, but you must ask yourself where your interpretaion of this parable came from,
Did it come from Man or did you receive it from God?
---David on 1/11/11


(Psalm 127:3)
"Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward."

What is the reward God seeks when he sows his seed?
When one sows a seed, do they not do so in expectation of a Harvest of Fruit, from that seed?

If God sows his seed in the "Good Soil", shouldn't he expect a harvest of fruit from the Womb in which it grows, as does man, when he sows his seed in the womb of his wife?

If we are to be Born Again, don't we need a Womb in which to grow?
Yes,
And the Womb of those who shall be Born Again, the womb in which the seed of God must grow, is the "Grace"of God, for "Only God is Good".
---David on 1/11/11


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Leslie,

i do not see it any simpler than that.
---aka on 1/10/11


-- Ginger :

the Parable means both--Ginger

Sister, Do you Understand Jesus Christ Himself explains the 'Seeds' in 'The Parable of the Sower' as the Word.

Donna shared it best "Nothing wrong with your theology" Christ is the Word made flesh, but you're adding to what the Parable ACTUALLY says... and that can/has lead individual far from the Truth by making them believe Salvation can be lose, taken away or given up, b/c they think the seeds(as you put it) is Christ which was lose & taken away by the wicked one.

The Parable of the Sower is sharing that Understanding(Job 28:28) is needed for God's Word to be Fruitful... that's why in all our getting, we're to get Understanding.
---Shawn.M.T on 1/10/11


MarkV, what I'm doing along with so many who know scripture is CROSS reference.

It's the Holy Spirit who does that as we GROW in His Word.

I know you believe no one can HEAR or obey unless they are saved first. I also know you know no one can bear fruit unless they are saved.

So yes, what I am doing is bringing in back up scriptures to support the text.

So you don't need to discredit me and contradict your own beliefs at the same time do you?

Our Heart is our conscience. We believe with our heart, not our intellect.

Our conscience has been purged by the blood of Christ to serve the living God Hebrews. Fruit can also be service, or being partakers of His divine nature, 2 Peter 1.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


Our fruit is what we produce. We are not saved by our fruit, but our fruit is evedence for if we are TRULY saved or not. Look at the first 3 soils (person), they produced bad fruit (fruits of the flesh) because they did not recieve the Word correctly (closed to the Word of truth). The last soil (person) did recieve the Word correctly (open to the Word of truth) and produced good fruit (fruits of the spirit).
---Leslie on 1/10/11


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Alan, I do understand what you are saying, but I don't feel history is what Jesus is talking about. Historical knowledge doesn't bear fruit.

Intelectual knowledge is one thing, but knowledge coming from the conscience awake to God is another.

I believe from Genesis to Revelation is all about Christ. The Alpha and Omega, teh beginning and teh end.

The true knowledge of Christ comes through our conscience. Yes many have an intellectual knowledge, but it will never become anything more than that.

I believe Jesus is talking about faith...not history.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


Kathr .. I have just discovered (I think) one of the things this discussion is about ... the word "Word"

It clearly has two meanings.

The Word who was there with God at the "beginning" That Word is the Son, who came here as Jesus to be our Saviour.

The other meaning is the History ... as recorded in the Bible, which we call "The Word"

Clearly the two can't be the same ... Jesus, the Son, who was was with, and was God, at the beginning, cannot be the written history of the Jews, including the Gospel, which is the true story of Jesus..

So, yes we can receive (hear) the Word story, but not receive (accept as Saviour) the Word, Jesus.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/10/11


See......This is nice, everybody just talking, like a loving family should talk to one another.
God bless you all!
---David on 1/10/11


Donna66, and ginger, I am ENJOYING our CONVERSATION. As I know you all are too.

There is another thing added to what you said. Many believe a false Gospel minus Christ. Let me put it this way. A crossless Christ. There are 1001 false gospel out there. Only the TRUE Gospel of Christ in you, can bear fruit. All else bear SELF, of which is to me the other soils. Worldly, no suffering...is not the gospel that bears fruit.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


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Donna66, your statements on the parable are correct. The pattern that Kathr gives I have seen it before a long time ago. Using the meaning from one verse about the Word, and putting that same meaning on everything that mentions the word "word". The same can be said of the Truth, they will use the same word wherever the word Truth is mentioned. One writer that did that repeatedly was Watchman Nee. I read many of his books. While it is ok in many cases depending on the context, it is not here on the parable. If the seed here was Christ, the birds ate Him. Some seeds on the parable burned up. Christ was not eaten or burned up. The seed is the word of God, the whole gospel.
---Mark_V. on 1/10/11


As Christians, it is the power of the word, sharper than a two edge sword that works in US. WE are being changed from Glory to Glory by the Spirit of the LORD, through His word.

I honestly believe the Good soil is the NEW HEART, promised in the New Covenant, and also spoken many times in the Old Testament. The New Covenant promised a New Heart, of which ONLY the Spirit of HIS WORD can bring forth anything.

Matthew, speaking of the Gospel of the Kingdom along with the New Covenant was no secret to any of them.

Jesus is telling us through a parable who does and doesn't have the New Heart.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


Good point Donna66.
On the opposite side of what you said is there are people who believe Jesus is the savior but do not believe the Bible is an accurate account. They misconstrue the so called contradictions when there are none. And we know that.
That also keeps them from being saved.
We feed the spirit of Christ in us by reading and abiding in his words thus abiding in him.
If we did not feed off his word spiritually, we would not grow from babes on milk to the meat of the word and mature Christians.
That is why I say the seed is both. The word and Christ himself.
---ginger on 1/10/11


What I see happening is that the same people argue any view that is given. compromising the Bible and not even care. What is motivating these people? Why do they love to argue with the same people? Is it the spirit of Jezebel? some say it does not exist, but I say it is clearly present here on some.
---mary on 1/10/11


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Kathr4453--
//Let me sk you, can you receive the WORD of the Gospel and not receive the WORD who is Christ. Can the Word and Christ be two separate things in this case.//

Yes and yes. I think the parable illustrates this. The birds that come and eat the seed are not removing Christ-- just the "word" or "gospel" from the hearers mind.
Many people today read the Bible, claim to believe it, but do not accept Jesus as their Savior.

Nothing wrong with your theology. I just think you are adding to what the parable ACTUALLY says, in it's original context. Such thinking makes a good "sermon" but can, if caution isn't used, lead one too far afield.
---Donna66 on 1/10/11


Shawn, may I ask..do you think I don't understand?

Do you think like the rcc who believe Jesus is still flesh in heaven when the Word says no flesh can enter heaven?
Jesus says he delivered the words that we were meant to hear. And he had done what God sent him to do. There is a connection. So the Parable means both.
Jesus is not in anyone until he is planted there by the hearing of his word.
He said we would be in him and he in us. We are the temple of the spirit of Christ. Tell me something how did he get there?
It is both.
---ginger on 1/10/11


Donna66, many things Jesus told them, they didn't fully understand until after the Holy Spirit came upon them.

Let me sk you, can you receive the WORD of the Gospel and not receive the WORD who is Christ. Can the Word and Christ be two separate things in this case.

Does the WORD of the Gospel save, or does Christ save.

OR is Christ the WORD of the Gospel that saves.

Truth has many many layers.

If some peal deeper into those layers, doesn't mean those who have only gone as deep as the first, won't at some later time in their growth, see something deeper.

The natural mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit. Jesus said, My WORDS are spirit and LIFE. We knoe Jesus is the way, truth and LIFE!
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


James 1:21
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

Donna66, here is what I mean.

Scripture teaches scriptre. Does a word save your soul or does God through Christ alone save your soul?

Now ask yourself WHY did John start in John 1 telling us THE WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


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Ginger and Kathr -- One of the rules for interpreting scripture is that:

We must not violate the known usage of a word and invent another for which there is no precedent.

Jesus told the disciples the seed is the "word". To them this could NOT have meant "Christ". There was no precedent THEN for this idea, since they didn't have the Gospel of John... to tell them In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn. 1:1. And Jesus did not explain this concept to them.

To the disciples "word" would have meant the scripture, or the "Gospel".
If Jesus had meant otherwise, I believe He would have told them.
---Donna66 on 1/10/11


-- Ginger :

Jesus is the seed in the Parable of the Sower.--Ginger

Sister, Yes... The word "Seed" represents Christ/God's Word, but whenever Scriptures states "Seeds", as it does in 'The Parable of the Sower', it's representing the Word... as Jesus Himself explains in Matt.13:18-19 as "When any one Heareth the Word of the Kingdom".

Jesus doesn't explain it as Hearing or Sowing Himself, Christ.

The Parable of the Sower is about the Fruitful Good Ground which Hears & Understands God's Word, verses all other ground which hears and may joyfully receive or even believe but does not Fruitfully Understand.

Refers. Job 28:28 for the Wisdom of Understanding
---ShawnM.T. on 1/10/11


In (Matthew 3), John the Baptist tells the people to Repent and to
"Bear fruit in keeping with Repentance"

How can the word of God repent?
How does the word of God bear fruit in keeping with Repentance?


There are many other parables where Jesus mentions the production of fruit, is Jesus speaking about the word of God in them also?
---David on 1/10/11


Jesus explains the seed in verses Matt 13: 18-28, and says it is the word.

18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

19When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
---kathr4453 on 1/10/11


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Donna66, I beg to differ just a little. Yes, the seed is the word of God
But John 1 tells us who the word is. When we read and study the Bible, we get Jesus' word but he is the word also.

Abraham was told he be the father of the seed that would save mankind from sin (Not in those exact word of course)
The Parable talks about the seed being planted. The new man is the seed. The new man is Christ Jesus.
He must be planted in our hearts for us to be saved right?
Jesus is the seed spoken of in the Parable of the Sower.
---ginger on 1/9/11


kathr4453--- You can make many interpretations of the meaning of "word". But the disciples to who Jesus was speaking, would not likely have interpreted it as meaning "Christ". And Jesus did not make this interpretation for them.

When the parable specifically states that the seed is "the word", I believe the most common definition is what is meant, i.e. "Scripture".
---Donna66 on 1/9/11


Leslie, what exactly is the fruit?

If the ftuit produced is 30, 70 or 100%, What does that mean to you.

That some are 30% saved, others 70% saved and others 100% saved.

So you are saying we are saved by our fruit? Or is fruit the evidence we are saved?
---kathr4453 on 1/8/11


Leslie, You've got my views on this scripture. I totally agree with you. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me, especially after Jesus explained it in such detail. :-D
---Reba on 1/8/11


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-- David :

Brother, Matt.13:4 does say 'seeds', and it's referring to the Word of God !!!
---Shawn.M.T. on 1/9/11


Leslie
Jesus uses the word "Soil", so naturally, you would think of a seed planted in the ground.
However, Jesus was doing a camparative to a seed growing in the ground with someone who is being born again, one who comes forth from the Womb of Grace (Good soil).

The word of God, to those who are born again, is a seed, but a seed that is much like the seed of your Earthly Father, which made it possible for you to grow in your Mother's Womb.

It was not the seed of your Earthly Father which grew in your mother's womb, it was you, who became the seed of your Father, just as when we receive the word of God (Gods seed), we become the seed of God, who then must Grow in his Grace.
---David on 1/9/11


Leslie, great points you made. Seed has different meanings depending on the context of the message. Just like world and other words do in Scripture. Taking the right context is so important. Anyone can build their own meaning to any word in Scripture and build a case. But it would be their own interpretation not what God wanted to convey. And what happens later is they get more messages confuse to the point where the readers foundation is lost. Contradicting passages, one from another.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/11


David - I encourage you to read the interpretation for this parable again (Matt. 13:18-23) - it clearly says the seed is the Word of God, NOT the people who recieve the Word (which are the types of soil). Here is why - do people get planted or does the Word get planted into people by it being preached? If the people get planted, into what are they planted? Does the Word of God not produce the fruit it should or do people hearing it interpret it wrong or get offended? Seed = Word, Soil = people who hear the Word
---Leslie on 1/8/11


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Thank You Donna, Now I understand.
The translation you quoted from does seem to support your understanding of the parable.
But, Please try and look at the parable from a different angle.

I grew for nine months in my mother womb before I was born.
Since my birth, I produced two more seeds, (my two Sons).
The birth process, is in many ways like that of a seed which grows in the ground, however, "A seed which grows in the ground does not need to be made fertile by a Father, for it to grow."

The Word of God is the seed of our Father, which makes the seed fertile so that the seed will grow, and then, we become the seed of God.
Understand?
---David on 1/8/11


2cor 9:10 also talks about the seed and sower. Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
Does SEED=WORD=CHRIST here?

---Donna66 on 1/7/11

Yes donna it is the same. The ONLY righteousness I have is the Righteousness of Christ... The FRUIT of MY Righteousness is CHRIST in me.
I am not an individual god who claims to have any righteousness of my own.

Read Philippians 1:11
Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
---kathr4453 on 1/8/11


1 Peter 1:24-25
24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Jesus said my words are SPIRIT and LIFE. The word of God is LIVING and powerful.

Rev..and His name(Christ Jesus) is called THE WORD OF GOD!

Oh Father how I love your WORD,
And who THE WORD would be,
I know THE WORD is your own Son,
And I KNOW He lives in me.
---kathr4453 on 1/8/11


Aka, sorry, I though you meant me. It was a good question concerning the parable. I believe this first parable of Jesus in the context was to proof or show why parables are given. The parable is the story, but the point was why Christ was going to speak in parables from that point on, for almost all the passages speak about why Christ did not want the unbelievers to know what He was saying. He was keeping the Truth from them. Again thanks for your answer. God gives to some what He does not give to others.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/11


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Kathr4453-- Sorry, But you have to use words by the same definition given in the scripture you are studying.
Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mat 13:20....,he that received the seed...the same is he that heareth the word,... ...

You say //scripture tells us the SEED is Christ, the Word is Christ.// But that doesn't mean any time the word SEED is used, it means CHRIST or WORD.

2cor 9:10 also talks about the seed and sower. Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness Does SEED=WORD=CHRIST here?

No offense, but you can't just change terms so scripture says what you want!
---Donna66 on 1/7/11


sorry Mark meant David.
---aka on 1/7/11


Aka, good morning to you also, you said, and I do think you were talking to me,
"
Mark, i sincerely hope that the Truth will be illuminating to you one day."

I don't know where that came from since I had not answered here, Let me give you my illumination of that passage: This was the first parable of Jesus for He had only given analogies often cast in the form of stories. Parables required more explanation (v.36) and Jesus employed them to obscure the Truth from unbelievers while making it clearer to His disciples (v. 11,12). For the remainder of His ministry, He did not speak to the multitudes except in parables (v. 34). Jesus veiling the Truth from unbelievers this way was both an act of judgment and an act of mercy.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/11


Can't argue with this. EXCEPT in the parable, the "seed" is the word of God.. ...which never dies!
---Donna66 on 1/6/11

ok donna, yet scripture tells us the SEED is Christ, the Word is Christ.

ONLY those who are saved can UNDERSTAND. We're not talking about initial salvation here, but those who are saved, and abide IN CHRIST bear fruit. BUT WE died with Christ, who is the seed, and is the word.

The FRUIT is the NEW LIFE in us.
---kathr4453 on 1/7/11


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Aka 2: It was "Judgment" because it kept them in the darkness that they loved ( John 3:19), but it was "mercy" because they had already rejected the light, so any exposure to more truth would only increase their condemnation (v 13) because Matthew suggest that their own unbelief is the cause of their spiritual blindness. Luke 8:10 emphasizes God's initiative in obscuring the truth from these unbelievers "(to the rest it is given in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand"
The seed is the Word of God and only those who can hear (His sheep) were able to hear.
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear" All the others could not hear.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/11


Aka 3: Now comes the explanation of the parable. The Sower gave the Word (seed) to the people, and only those of the elect could hear it and they produce good fruit since they could hear with their ears. V. 13:11 clearly affirms that the ablity to comprehend spiritual Truth is a gracious gift of God, sovereignly bestowed on the elect (v.11). The reprobate ones, on the other hand, are passed over. They reap the natural consequences of their own unbelief and rebellion-spiritual blindness (v.13). Christ clearly refused to speak to the unbelievers where they could understand. That is why He spoke in parables. He kept the Truth of what He was saying away from them.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/11


David---//In those verses, the Lord clearly says the seed refers to those who receive the word, it does not say the word is the seed.NO. READ CAREFULLY

The same parable is in Mar 4.
Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word. 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown..,
Mat 13:20 But ,he that received the seed, into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word and anon with joy receiveth it..
Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it, which also beareth fruit..

The SEED is not the GROUND.
---Donna66 on 1/7/11


Jesus is saying in the Parable, that one must Grow in the Grace of God to produce fruit.
And How does one produce Fruit?
(Matthew 3:8)
"Produce fruit in keeping with repentance".

And How does one Grow in the Grace of God?
Since Jesus, was sent by the Grace of God, and God extended his Grace to us because he so Loved the World (John 3:16), it is Gods Love which will cause us to Grow in his Grace.

And how does one receive the Love of God?
(John 14:21)
"He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he is the one that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved by my Father".
---David on 1/7/11


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Donna66. Galatains 5:22-25 tells us about the fruit, but also included in these passages as a statement..Those who are Christ's HAVE crucified the flesh. ALL this is one thought. Fruit cannot grow in our old adam nature. Romans 6, that nature was crucified with Christ.
Our life NOW is His life through us. Christ, the WORD was made flesh, and died. His risen Life alone in you, the NEW CREATURE produces fruit.

He alone is the GOOD GROUND.
ONLY our identification of life and death in Him counts for anything.

We are complete ONLY IN HIM. I can do NOTHING apart from His life in me...Galatians 2:20 make that perfectly clear.
---kathr4453 on 1/7/11


Romans 7:4
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
---kathr4453 on 1/7/11


David - I encourage you to read Matthew 13:18-23 - it explains the Parable ---Leslie on 1/6/11

Leslie
I did read it, I also printed some of the verses in red so that others could read it.
In those verses, the Lord clearly says the seed refers to those who receive the word, it does not say the word is the seed.

Just so you know, the "Good Soil" in the Parable is the Grace of God.
(2 Peter 3:17-18)
"Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position, But "Grow in the Grace" and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ".
---David on 1/6/11


Kath4453--//not so donna. New life in a seed comes when the seed dies. Also in the forest it comes with intense heat.//

Can't argue with this. EXCEPT in the parable, the "seed" is the word of God.. ...which never dies! (The reference you used for "seed" refers to something else..you've mixed metaphors,I think)

I don't agree that salvation is what prepares the ground!
In order for SAVATION to occur one must have the seed which, in the parable, is the Word .
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

I don't believe the ground prepares itself, but instead, The Lord of the Harvest does.
---Donna66 on 1/6/11


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David - I encourage you to read Matthew 13:18-23 - it explains the Parable as to what it means. NO one is already good, but their heart recieving it was good. The 4th soil is anyone who hears the Word of God and UNDERSTANDS it, then the Word bears fruit in the life of that individual - which is good because a life should bear good fruit.
---Leslie on 1/6/11


New life comes only when
the seed germinates and grows into a good "crop"
---Donna66 on 1/6/11

not so donna. New life in a seed comes when the seed dies. Also in the forest it comes with intense heat.

Paul also tells us, that seed abides alone, when it falls to the ground, but when it DIES, it brings for fruit. 1st 15.

Jesus said, I will baptize you withe FIRE, and that is exactly what is meant here. The baptism of FIRE burns away the chaff, for the new life in the seed to grow/ spring forth.

Salvation is what prepares the ground for FRUIT.

FRUIT is the evidence the Ground was FIRST saved, and then prepared to bring forth fruit!
---kathr4453 on 1/6/11


Kath4453--
What DOES make for good soil? Does the ground prepare itself?
No farmer who wants a good harvest goes out and plants an unprepared field.

New life comes only when
the seed germinates and grows into a good "crop"
---Donna66 on 1/6/11


How did their hearts become "Good" before the seed was sown?
---David on 1/6/11

David, this was the same issue I was trying to tease out of people.

Funny, there are those who actually believe THEY are the good ground.

The Good Ground is the NEW LIFE in you. No the Word of God does not produce FRUIT on our old Adam. It's the Life of Christ in you, THE NEW CREATURE that produces fruit.

One must be SAVED FIRST before producing any fruit.

Just as those who must be MARRIED first to produce a Child...(a LIGITIMATE Child that is)

Legitimate Fruit is produced by the Holy Spirit working through the NEW MAN! Our Old man was crucified with Christ. Nothing dead can produce anything!
---kathr4453 on 1/6/11


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The types of soil are the hearts of people who receive the Word and how differently they react to the Word.---Leslie on 1/4/11

Leslie
I can see why you believe the seed in the parable is the word of God, but you say here that the soil in the parable represents the Hearts of Men.
The parable says, the seed which grew and produced fruit, was that seed which fell on the "Good" Soil.

If what you say is true, the Hearts of those who are called would have to be "Good" before the seed was sown for it to produce fruit.
Question:
How did their hearts become "Good" before the seed was sown?
---David on 1/6/11


This is one of parables that Jesus directly interprets for His listeners. It should be one of the easiest to understand. The emphasis is not on the seed (which is the unchanging Word of God). but on one variable which is the condition of the hearer (the "ground'). We do not fail to sow the seed, even though we may not possess a soil analysis.

More controversial may be what Jesus says next: (in Mar. 4:11),that unto us it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but to those who are "without", parables are given. (Mar 4:12), That seeing they may see, and not perceive, and hearing they may hear, and not understand, lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
---Donna66 on 1/5/11


David - You are DECEIVED. The seed is the Word of God according to the Bible. The soil is how people recieve the Word of God. The first 3 soils are bad (did not recieve the Word the way that God intended them to because of their own beliefs and teaching not lining up with the Word). The 4th soil is good (recieved the Word in the manner that God intended them to because they were going with the Bible as truth and not their beliefs or teaching).
---Leslie on 1/5/11


//Your answers are quite illuminating,//

Mat 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This (the seed...Mk 4:14) is what was sown along the path.

Mk 4:14 The sower sows the word. Mk 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown...

Mark, i sincerely hope that the Truth will be illuminating to you one day.
---aka on 1/5/11


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Thank You
Your answers are quite illuminating, and have helped me to understand a little more as to the mis-understandings between us.

Read the Lord's answer (underlined)to the meaning of the Parable again, and you will see the seed, in this parable, is not the word of God, but the believer who receives the word of God.
(Matthew 13:20)
"The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word"
(Matthew 13:22)
The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word"
(Matthew 13:23)
"But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it."
---David on 1/5/11


the word
---aka on 1/4/11


The seeds represent the word of God.
---Leon on 1/4/11


"What do the seeds in the (Matthew 13:3-8) Parable represent?"
The Word of God. See>Mar 4:14
However there is a second parable concerning seed in that same chapter.
In that second parable, (13: 24-30), the "seed" are the "children of the Kingdom". See>Mat 13:38
---josef on 1/4/11


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If you read it, the scripture does not say seeds, but seed. The seed is the Word of God (Bible) planted into each individual life. The types of soil are the hearts of people who receive the Word and how differently they react to the Word. By their reaction to the Word, you will know if they are really saved or not, or if they want the correction of the Word or not.
---Leslie on 1/4/11


Jesus explains the parable in verses 18-23. The seeds are the Word of God.Verse 19 says, "Word of the Kingdom".
---Reba on 1/4/11


This is an interpretation I used as a mission planner there are other but this one works well. The seed represent resources especially to people involved in approving alternative mission projects. There are always more projects then there are resources to fund and operate them. Just as seed were valuable in the ancient world mission dollars and personnel are valuable today. Use them on projects that have a high probability of success and don't try to duplicate other peoples successful programs in the same location. There are may ideas for mission projects proposed by people who are incompetent to run them. Give the project to those with proven track records for completion and accomplishment.
---Blogger9211 on 1/4/11


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