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Christian Divorces Granted

Last year, the Egyptian government allowed divorced Christians who'd committed adultery to remarry in religious ceremonies. Amidst protests by the Coptic Orthodox Church, the govt has since appointed a special committee to govern Christian marriages and divorces. Should other countries follow suit?

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"this is NOT something the government decides." ~Cluny

Cluny: According to an article I read, this is precisely what happened in Egypt. Government said the church had to perform these ceremonies and the church protested. As a result, the government appointed a Christian committee to oversee the approval of future marriages in the church. I cannot link you to the article, but if you search the following, you should be able to find it: New Family Law for Christians to Be Drafted Following Contentious Court Decision. I read it on the Library of Congress' website. Hope you read it, as I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
---AlwaysOn on 1/7/11

Cluny //The various apostolic pre-reformation churches already have procedures for dealing with this.

I have often attempted to post the view that the church has been granted authority to decide these issues based upon what they believe to be the merits.

Pointing to a peculiar interpretation of scripture as a universal injunction against divorce & re-marriage, ignores the complexities of the issues involved and often involves injustice to the innocent parties.
---leej on 1/7/11

Government should not legislate on issues that belong primarily to the church.

However, I would suspect that those in the Coptic churches felt they were denied their basic rights by the Coptic church to re-marry.

A similar thing happened in the Roman Church when the Pope was in New York, the Italian govt quickly formed a collusion and passed their 1st divorce law, permiting people who were stacked up and raising families the right to divorce and re-marry on any grounds.

Sometimes churches have no mercy on those who are victims of others sinfulness and the only recourse is the govt.
---leej on 1/7/11

\\Cluny, remarriage in church is one thing, but remarriage in a church ceremony after a person has committed adultery and gotten a divorce is the crux of the issue here. \\

And this is NOT something the government decides.

The various apostolic pre-reformation churches already have procedures for dealing with this.
---Cluny on 1/7/11

Sorry, folks! Just realized I didn't make clear the special committee over Christian marriages and divorce in Egypt is largely comprised of clerics, not government officials. I now realize I gave the impression the committee was another government body of random officials, which it is not. It's basically, people familiar with and sensitive to the rules of the church governing over marriage/divorce in order to keep with the church's values. This is because people felt the Egyptian government had overstepped its bounds by allowing remarriages involving divorced Christians who'd committed adultery to take place in church, which is a no-no. Now people who know and respect the rules of the church will have input and not ONLY the government.
---AlwaysOn on 1/7/11

I don't think for one minute that the government has any place in doctrine, because it represents self and the world has no say in how biblically God portrays marriage.

On marriage I believe that if life was just about marriage there would not be a line of two people on every road who could honestly say they are truly Biblically happy!
---Carla on 1/7/11

No. Government stay away. They already have to much control over peoples lives. What is legal and what is christian are two different animals. Jesus Christ does not force us to serve him. We should not be forced to do things against our will, by the government(concerning marriage/relationships) God has already left instructions for us in His Word. This is the only authority needed for christians.
---Robyn on 1/6/11

While marriage is a legal procedure in many ways, a person needs to look at what the Bible states concerning divorce and re-marriage. Matthew 5:32 (KJV) 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. This and other verses state that while a person may divorce for adultery, they can't remarry.
---wivv on 1/6/11

I agree with the Bible and with you, Carla. But should there be a special committee to govern Christian marriage and divorce in the United States since what's legal often contradicts what's biblical?
---AlwaysOn on 1/6/11

Cluny, remarriage in church is one thing, but remarriage in a church ceremony after a person has committed adultery and gotten a divorce is the crux of the issue here. Even if it's legal to do, should a committee be set in place (by denomination, even) to assure that this doesn't happen in Christian churches since it's unbiblical?

Moderators: My apologies for making you work double-time. I meant to reply to Cluny along with Carla, but forgot before submitting my previous message.
---AlwaysOn on 1/6/11

Grant a divorce for safety and peace fair enough. For re-marriage read the bible no need to ask God in prayer, he already plainly said: One should remain single or reconcile. 1 Corinth 7 for the whole facts.
---Carla on 1/6/11

I'm not sure about the practice of the Coptic church in this matter, but the Eastern (Chalcedonian) Orthodox have always allowed church weddings to those who have had a civil divorce AFTER the eccelesiastical divorce has been granted, which is an entirely different and separate procedure.

While the Roman Catholic Church tribunals will grant a declaration of nullity (commonly called annulment), it boils down to the same thing in effect.

I might add that the Anglican communion used to have similar procedures.
---Cluny on 1/6/11

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