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The Truth Will Set You Free

The Bible teaches people will know the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set them free. Yet when I look around, I see so many people who are in bondage by Satan and his servants. Is this because people are ignorant of GOD'S TRUTH, or because they reject GOD'S TRUTH?

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Mary ... "Alan, you made an attempt to bring doubt on markv when you said his wife was christian the blogger"

Mary, I did NOT say that mark's wife was Christan
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/5/11


Mary ... I did NOT say Mark's wife was Christan, nor did I say that Christan was Mark's wife.

Another blogger made that suggestion, and he actually put his hand up for it
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/5/11


Alan, you made an attempt to bring doubt on markv when you said his wife was christian the blogger. Please do not try to make me look foolish also. You speak like a good brother and then resort to bringing a sword between brothers. I'm trying to help you. By doing what you do, you are returning to your own vomit. Who you were before you got saved. You should be keeping the peace. Don't eat from the same bowl that Kathren eats from. The food she eats is not life. You are nothing like her.
---mary on 2/5/11


Mary ...

First. I have only once mentioned Mark's wife, and that was several years ago when I thanked him for sharing with us his testimony about how his relationship with his wife was restored by God (and Mark thanked me at that time)

Second ... Mark has said all those things about me. Most of them many times, except the one about stripping Christ of His deity, of which he has accused me only once. And all his claims that I have said those things are totslly false
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/4/11


Rob, to answer you, as you can see not many have been set free from sin who are answering. The evidence is all around on the commands they make. They are more interested in condemning someone then to hear the real truth of the Bible. They are in bondage to Satan, and are doing the desires of their father.
---Bob on 2/4/11




Alan, you did want to put an idea to everyone when you mentioned markv's wife, and now you are feeding from the same bowl of Kathren by accusing markv with what you said. He never said what you said he did. your feeding from Kahtren's bowl, as she does the desires of the devil. Now you want to join her feeding bowl. I thought you were a good brother. Stop bringing false judgment on anyone. You ask for prayer for Ali because she is sick, and turn around and try to burn a brother in Christ. You are better then that.
---mary on 2/4/11


MarkV ... You have accused me of stripping Christ of His deity, of denying God's sovereignty, of taking credit for my own salvation, of saying God should be grateful to me, of siding with RCs when I have just defended them against lies.

You have accused me And you say I slander you!!!

To use your words, you "whine" when these lies are pointed out to you.

If you can show where I have said or done rhese things, mail me direct ... my PenPal ID is Alan8566.

But I doubt you will have the courage.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/3/11


mark, from your comment here, are you saying you are christ who's deity is being stripped?

How one can be accused of stripping Christ of His Deity here, by showing you you love stripping others of their dignity and making false accusations, is telling me it's time for you to take a rest man.

---Tom on 2/2/11


Why is it when someone disagrees with you, Mark, you claim they are stripping Christ of his deity?

I havent seen Kat, Alan, Allan or myself ever do such a thing.
---CraigA on 2/2/11


Kathr, Mark: PLEASE move your arguments to a private place - we don't want to hear your personal arguments!
---Jennifer on 2/2/11




Yes MarkV, do you see the word SLANDER??? Now you know for a fact I do believe in the Deity of Christ, that He was the LOGOS before becoming flesh and dwelt among us. Yet you slander me over and over and over that I deny the deity of Christ.

Yes, you are of your father the devil.
---kathr4453 on 2/2/11


Kahtr, you said to me,
"MarkV, yes it does appear you are doing the desires of your father..satan, the author of confusion, the father of LIES!!!"
now you really spoke what was in your heart. You didn't have to strip Christ of His deity. It was not necessary. For that last response came right out of your heart,
"For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil thoughts come from within, and they defile a man"
You are good for about eight of them.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/11


Yehovah declares His truth will set you free.

It is first the adversary working against this and second has convince the flesh to follower.

Freedom to love God-sets you free. We can't allow lies to put us in bondage.

His burden is light.
He does not want our burnt offerings-He wants our love.
---char on 1/31/11


MarkV, yes it does appear you are doing the desires of your father..satan, the author of confusion, the father of LIES!!!
---kathr4453 on 1/31/11


In Eph. 2:1-10. "And you He made alive who were dead in trespasses and sins" Paul says, that those who were brought alive by God, were previously walking according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air (the devil) "The spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" and says, "filling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath just as the others" Jesus says in John 8:44,
"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do." In both cases the lost are doing the desires of their father, the prince of the power of the air. The lost are under the control of their father.
---Mark_V. on 1/31/11


Markv, please show me any scripture where Jesus or any of the apostles called a gentile without faith satan's child, or that satan was their father. JUST ONE verse markV.

Now you have lied and lied and lied about having the Holy Spirit before faith, yet there are more scriptures to PROVE you are wrong.

Since satan is the father of LIES, is he also the father of liars?

Well there ya go...I guess he is the father of liars, jew or gentile.

How does the shoe feel on your foot?
---kathr4453 on 1/30/11


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Kathr, if a person could debate with you about the things of God, it would be great. But no one can debate with you unless both of you have the same believe. You have called me so many things, so I thought the only way to answer you would be to first give you Scripture, to show you where you are wrong, and then speak to you as you have spoken to me. You want respect, you have to earn it. I have told you I loved you so many times, and only wanted to debate, but with you there is no debating. Now in order to oppose what I say, you even blaspheme Christ, and lie about the Holy Spirit. That is how far you will go to argue with me, so I answer you just as you deserve to be answered.
---Mark_V. on 1/30/11


Satan is also the father of LIES.


Satan is the author of confusion.
---kathr4453 on 1/29/11


Exodus 4:22
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
markv, why all the snake poison coming from your lips.

Can you have a conversation here without your nasty comments.

When Jesus was talking to the JEWS who denied who HE WAS, as they should have known who HE WAS. He came unto HIS OWN and THEY rejected Him.

Please use John in correct context.

YOU love calling those who are lost satan's seed/children. Those were Christs words, to HIS Own, Not yours.

Nowhere do you ever see Paul or Jesus or Peter calling lost Gentiles SATAN'S SEED, or that Satan was their father.

Satan has blinded the minds of those who are lost.

Satan has no LITERAL SEED.
---kathr4453 on 1/29/11


Let me clear something up. Mima is correct, people who are lost are in bondage to sin, and their father is the devil, they do the desires of their father. The believers become free from the bondage of sin and satan and become children of God, they become slaves to Christ.

Kathr mentality is so far gone she speaks opposite of what Jesus says in John 8:37-53. Here is what she said about this Jews,
That is so taken out of context it's not even funny. Jesus was talking to the JEWS, who God was their father, and Israel was God's firstborn."
She said this Jews their father was God, when Jesus said their father was the devil.
"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do"
---Mark_V. on 1/27/11


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cluny,

it does not matter what i say or how i say it in the other blog.

i can say that i love you and may God bless you in your endeavors in Him.

if you interpret my words as attack and that I did not answer, i cannot help it. if you want to put any label on me, then go ahead. you are only blessing me.

The love of the Father, the knowledge of Jesus Christ, and the power of the Spirit are available to all that ask.
---aka on 1/26/11


"I am the way, the truth and the life." (in John 14:6) "'Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.'" (John 8:36) "...the Spirit is truth." (in 1 John 5:6) "...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." (in 2 Corinthians 3:17) "But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (1 Corinthians 6:17) "...as He is, so are we in this world." (in 1 John 4:17) "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7) "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love." (in 1 John 4:18)
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/25/11


My scriptures are in another post. So, I would say the real truth is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Truth, then, is true reality including how God's love is. This is deeper than words. In living God's love we have the freedom of Jesus shared with us, making us free from fear, and making us able to freely love any and all people. This could be what Jesus means by "Freely you have received, freely give," in Matthew 10:8. Truth, then, is what Jesus means by His words . . . the actually reality of how God has us living His love meaning, and not only the explanation and beliefs.
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/25/11


I believe in heaven and i think there are guardian angels but when Joyce Meyer gets paid enough to get botox done that is neither heavenly or "extreme obedience".
---Matt on 1/25/11


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A Christian is in bondage to Jesus.
He is not in bondage to man maded qualifications for salvation such as, sacraments, baptism, longsleeved shirts, speaking in tongues, and the list goes on and on. Another word for these qualifications is works!!!1
---mima on 1/25/11


If you've seen his ridiculous statements elsewhere, you'd know why I was saying this.
---Cluny on 1/25/11


Cluny, are kidding or are you serious?
---aka on 1/22/11


\\Rob, both those whom do Not Know Jesus, and also those whom reject Jesus are in bondage:\\

I don't reject Jesus, therefore I'm not in bondage.

But YOU are in bondage to your own arbitrary misuse of "who" and "whom".
---Cluny on 1/22/11

you always seem to attack with no provocation or substance when you are called on something.

and you said my statement on another blog was silly? :~)
---aka on 1/24/11


Both,
Its very sad, and the reason is that most follow their Churches teaching and just read the bible. To gain truth we must pray and reach out to God. HIS Spirit is our teacher. If we ask for knowledge in earnest, HE will give us a changed mind towards truth and out of bondage.
---duane on 1/23/11


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Rob, people are in bondage because they do not know Jesus.
---Eloy on 1/22/11


Cluny, are kidding or are you serious?
---aka on 1/22/11


\\Rob, both those whom do Not Know Jesus, and also those whom reject Jesus are in bondage:\\

I don't reject Jesus, therefore I'm not in bondage.

But YOU are in bondage to your own arbitrary misuse of "who" and "whom".
---Cluny on 1/22/11


Rob, both those whom do Not Know Jesus, and also those whom reject Jesus are in bondage: but once the soul comes to know The Truth, then that soul can be set free from bondage.
---Eloy on 1/21/11


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Jesus said, "If God were your Father, you would love Me" meaning, the only way to love Christ is if God is your Father. No other way, so how can the lost be free and able to love Christ in their condition?
---Mark_V. on 1/21/11
That is so taken out of context it's not even funny. Jesus was talking to the JEWS, who God was their father, and Israel was God's firstborn.

Jesus NEVER said that to a Gentile, as it wouldn't make any sense, and would not apply to Gentiles at that time.

Jesus hadn't gone to the cross yet, died or rose again.

Jesus is not walking around on earth here today making such statements.
MarkV, you need to study to show yourself approved.



---kathr4453 on 1/22/11


\\Rob, Clearly Christ has not set these captives to sin free as of yet, because they have not repented to Christ\\

Neither has Eloy, or he wouldn't insist that his name means "Light", even though the inspired writers of the Gospels say otherwise.

For that matter, he wouldn't break his promise about not responding to StrongAxe any more, then turn around and do it. So Eloy's word means nothing.
---Cluny on 1/21/11


Rob, Clearly Christ has not set these captives that sin, free as of yet, because they have not repented to Christ. As long as a soul continues to serve sin, Christ will not free them: First the sin-bound soul, the soul bound by sin, must acknowledge their bondage and desire to be set free, then they must go to the only one whom can set them free, namely, Christ Jesus, and they must fess up to him their sins and ask for his forgiveness and to save them from sin and give them the new born-again life from Christ. And clearly they have not done this, else they would be serving righteousness rather than sinuousness.
---Eloy on 1/21/11


Rob, Clearly Christ has not set these captives to sin free as of yet, because they have not repented to Christ. As long as a soul continues to serve sin, Christ will not free them: First the sin-bound soul, the soul bound by sin, must acknowledge their bondage and desire to be set free, then they must go to the only one whom can set them free, namely, Christ Jesus, and they must fess up to him their sins and ask for his forgiveness and to save them from sin and give them the new born-again life from Christ. And clearly they have not done this, else they would be serving righteousness rather than sinuousness.
---Eloy on 1/21/11


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**MarkV, I am going to cease further replying to you because you bear false witness and say that I have said things which indeed I have not said.**

MarkV, don't worry about it. Eloy said EXACTLY the same thing to StrongAxe, then he said this:

\\strongax, you continue to post falsehood.\\

If Eloy says he's not going to respond to someone any more, then goes ahead and does it, is he not bearing false witness against himself?

++And you only dis what I post,++

Of course, Eloy, you do the same thing to other people. OTOH, what you post is so dissable.
---Cluny on 1/21/11


Years ago, I shared with an individual who follows the teaching of Joel Olsteen, how Joel Olsteen, ON LIVE TELEVISION, several times rejected CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD.
This individual lashed out at me, told me not to speak bad about THE MAN OF GOD, and never spoke to me again.
---Rob on 1/18/11

Rob
Isn't it sad, that with many denominations, in order for us to give Credibility to the teachings of Jesus Christ, we must first discredit the false teachers they follow?
---David on 1/21/11


Rod: It is better (I think you may disagree) not to use the Bible to prove it is true (though it is, of course).

I think it is better to use things stated in the Bible, that we can show are true (plently of those, of course!) to demonstrate that there's plenty we can prove true in the Bible, so why should people disbelieve the rest

Of course, some parts are methaphorical (just a bit), but my faith is not enough to know exactly what parts are!
---Peter on 1/21/11


Eloy, I do like many of the things you say, but cannot for the life of me know how you can be so wrong and still hold on to your believes. You already explained a long time ago the division between the children of God and the children of the devil. I read it. They are children of wrath. You now say they are in bondage to sin, which is true also. But then you say they are free, that their wills are free to do what they desire and so can desire Christ. Jesus said, "If God were your Father, you would love Me" meaning, the only way to love Christ is if God is your Father. No other way, so how can the lost be free and able to love Christ in their condition?
---Mark_V. on 1/21/11


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MarkV, I am going to cease further replying to you because you bear false witness and say that I have said things which indeed I have not said. And you only dis what I post, and you ask me questions only for the purpose to dis what I answer and not because you truly desire to know the truth. For I will focus on those truly seeking the truth, and I will redeem the time, and when you decide to become one of these then you too will become gladly communicated by me.
---Eloy on 1/20/11


Eloy, you said,

"Those in bondage to sin is because they are not serving Christ, but serving sin,"

That is what I have been saying for years, and you have been saying they are free.
Their will's are not free because you know their wills are in bondage to sin. How can you reconcile that? Can you explain that? You say they have a free will when now you say they are in bondage to sin. Which is it? Slaves to sin, are free?
---Mark_V. on 1/20/11


MarkV, I do not preach theories, but instead I preach Christ whom indeed is the Liberator from sin. Those in bondage to sin is because they are not serving Christ, but serving sin, some serve sin because they do not Jesus and others serve sin because they have rejected Jesus, and therefore both are servants of sin. And you are correct God has given each soul freedom of choice to either serve sin or serve righteousness, because a person does not know Jesus does not mean that that person does not know the difference between what is morally good and right behavior and what is morally bad and wrong behavior, for many NonChristians can distinguish the difference between good and evil, and have set up laws and judgments and prisons for the evil-doers.
---Eloy on 1/19/11


Eloy, you said,

"Both those whom do not know the Liberator, and also those whom reject the Liberator, they are both in bondage to sin and condemnation."

What is the truth to you anyway? You have told us that the lost have free will. Not in bondage to anything. They are free to do what they want. That they are not robots. That God would never do that to anyone. And here you say they are both in bondage to sin and condemnation. What's up with your theory?
---Mark_V. on 1/19/11


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Years ago, I shared with an individual who follows the teaching of Joel Olsteen, how Joel Olsteen, ON LIVE TELEVISION, several times rejected CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD.
This individual lashed out at me, told me not to speak bad about THE MAN OF GOD, and never spoke to me again.

This is proof the BIBLE IS TRUE, Matthew 7:13-15 and 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

People will sit under the teaching of others, purchase their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will never follow the command found in 2 Timothy 2:14-19, or follow the example found in Acts 17:11.

When I watch TBN and DAYSTAR, I see people who claim to be people of God, but they are BASTARDS and SERVANTS OF SATAN, Hebrews 2:7-8, Romans 1:25, and 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.
---Rob on 1/18/11


I see the same thing everyday. They are not ignoant to God's truth nor do they reject it. What I see is they have become comfortable and now comfortable scared to turn back because of consequences. Now they think all I have to do is one day repent for the wrongs that they may have done. But do you know that God looks at how many times you repent for the same behavior? And some people are in bondage and do not even know because of the way things may be happening to them. These are the two biggest things that I see now. I remember tho that Satan offers beauty wealth and comfort. But at a price in the end. There is a difference from helping those in need of those things. Than offering in vain of profit for yourself.
---Nicole_Hawkins on 1/17/11


David, you asked "How do you know amongst those in your Church, who are the elected?"

Jesus said, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:16-20

"A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things." Matthew 12:35
---christan on 1/16/11


---David on 1/16/11 post is correct.
One of the reasons for this is that man is continually bombarded with all the teachings of mankind.
God's Word releases Man from Man's teachings. These teachings are additions to the Word of God and attention given to these teachings of man leads to bondage!!
---mima on 1/16/11


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In (John 8:34), Jesus gives us the Truth that sets men free, however, as I have pointed out many times before, men will not except this Truth about themselves.
They continue to do that which they do not want to do(sin), and still, call themselves free of sin.

In (Romans 7), Paul calls himself a Slave to sin when he was under these conditions, but for some reason, those who follow the teachings of Paul, do not see themselves in the same light.
---David on 1/16/11


Reba is correct! Great post!

Christians are genrally extremey ignorant of their faiths. It is WILLFUL ignorance. So if they are clueless as to what Christianity is, how can they ever witness to others.
---John on 1/16/11


Being strong in talking God's words is not the same as being strong in His love: "My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth." (1 John 3:18) Jesus Himself is "the truth", He says in John 14:6. And "the Spirit is truth," we have in 1 John 5:6. So, words alone are not the truth. However, Jesus plainly says His words "are spirit, and they are life", in John 6:63. So, I can see that we need to feed on God's words in God's love so we grow stronger in the freedom of God's love, so that "as He is, so are we in this world." (please see 1 John 4:17 with James 1:13)
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/16/11


Both those whom do not know the Liberator, and also those whom reject the Liberator, they are both in bondage to sin and condemnation.
---Eloy on 1/15/11


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Candice, I agree with 100% concerning what you wrote about some Pastors.

It is not only sad, but sickening how many Churches I have visited and seen this very thing.
---Rob on 1/15/11


This line of questions, like most, stems from only partial knowledge of the origins and situation when Jesus had this conversation with the Pharisees. In John 8, Jesus began a dialogue with the Pharisees that ended in verse 59, "When Jesus said this, the people picked up stones to throw at him. But Jesus hid himself, and then he left the temple." Once you read and ponder all of chapter 8, you'll see your first question is not related to your second question. Both good questions, though.
---steve on 1/15/11


both. Some are in bondage not with satan, but with their church.Some Pastors want the people to obey them elevating them as the same as God which this can't happen. Once a person find out the truth & then rejects it then of course they're in bondage of the flesh .
---Candice on 1/15/11


This is a result of both, they are ignorant of the truth, and they reject the truth. The Bible says in the last days that people will reject the truth and listen to false teachers who teach doctrines of demons and things to satisfy their itching ears.
---Leslie on 1/15/11


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Rob, both. The bible tells us that "satan has blinded the MINDS of unbelivers" stopping them from seeing the truth.
Truth is in Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior. Jesus said, I am the way, the TRUTH, etc., no one comes to the Father but by me.
---Donna5535 on 1/15/11


The phrase is not " set you free." It is " MAKE you free."
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

And people are not made free because they do not know the truth.

some of them have been set free, Many are set free from drugs and alcohol, even set free from prison. But those who know the truth are not set free, they are made free
---francis on 1/15/11


Perhaps both. There are some who are ignorant, some who reject the truth, and a great many more who "accept" the truth but do not actually rely on it full time. For beyond all other information we have, and our blood-bought freedom from sin ,it is God's Word in which we must continually trust. It gives exhilarating freedom to the soul

For example: Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. If we totally rely on this verse, no difficulty will discourage us, no insult will offend us, no doubt will cause us to falter. We may need many course corrections, but we know that no matter what, in the end, we will be victorious. What could be more freeing than that certainty?
---Donna66 on 1/15/11


\\For example we are to offer no praise or glorification to any person other than the Lord Jesus Christ.\\

That's not what the word of God says.

Romans 8:17
... that we may be also glorified together.

Romans 8:30
... them he also glorified.

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you, brethren, ...

2 Corinthians 8:18
And we have sent with him the brother, whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches,

1 Peter 2:14
...and for the praise of them that do well.

mima, why are you always saying things that go against the Bible?
---Cluny on 1/15/11


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Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
---scripture on 1/15/11


The statement 'the truth will sset you free' was said to the disciples, not to all people.

So yes, some will not know the truth (depending on your view, either due to their decision or that God did not pick them).... but that's another question
---Peter on 1/15/11


BOTH But here in the U.S. people are willingly ignorant because the truth of God's word & love are everywhere. You have to put forth a great effort to avoid hearing it. So they are without an excuse.
---Reba on 1/15/11


There are many paths to bondage. The truth is a fixed position but the(man made) maze surrounding the truth requires attention to the directions given by Almighty God!!! For example we are to offer no praise or glorification to any person other than the Lord Jesus Christ. But many prayers offered up continuously violate this golden rule. And the one praying places himself in bondage thereby.
---mima on 1/15/11


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Where did you get the idea that what you see is in fact what is going on?
---Cluny on 1/15/11


Knowing the TRUTH does set you FREE in the Spirit, who changes us as GOD permits.

Those of us who personally know Jesus Christ will find complete FREEDOM once we leave planet Earth and get to Heaven! Until then, SIN will affect us all to some degree. Sometimes because of: Ignorance, Rejection, or both.

As long as we are living on planet Earth, there are going to be: Problems, Troubles, Wars, Sicknesses, Natural Disasters, etc. Even Christians are affected. Haiti is just one example.

Here in Earth, I struggle with the lingering effects of my nasty Divorce. For others, it might be Health issues, etc.
---Augie on 1/15/11


The Truth will set you free is a person, Jesus Christ. And to be set free by the Truth, one must be born of the Spirit and he will be in Jesus Christ.

Everyone born into this world is born dead in their sins and trespasses (we inherited this from Adam's fall). Until the Spirit of God comes and set him/her free through regeneration, the dead man will do what he does best in his sins and trespasses, and that is to live a life of unbelief that simply rejects the Truth of the Word.
---christan on 1/15/11


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