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Perpetual Virginity Of Mary

Does the belief in "the perpetual virginity of Mary" itself deny the marriage of Mary and Joseph, since a marriage must be consummated in order to be a marriage? Your opinion?

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Philomena: Can you tell me where you leanred that?

It is intersting, but it would be nicer if I could also read what the three wrote

Thanks in advance
---Peter on 1/28/11


\\God does not do anything without informing his prophets.\\

But the Prophets didn't write down everything, did they?

For example, St. John was commanded NOT to record what the seven thunders said.

\\ NOT ONE prophet prohecied the peretual virginity. since it was not prophecied or confirmed in the bible that it did happen,\\

That, as I have shown, is debatable.
---Cluny on 1/28/11


Luke 2:7 "And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn."

- when you called your son "first born" wouldn't it mean there was a succeeding offsprings? otherwise they would have address Jesus as Mary's only son? just a thought...
---Josephine on 1/28/11


Luther, Calvin and Zwingli taught that Mary remained a virgin.
---Philomena on 1/28/11


Cluny said Please prove God did NOT tell Joseph this.

SIMPLE PROOF God does not do anything without informing his prophets. NOT ONE prophet prohecied the peretual virginity. since it was not prophecied or confirmed in the bible that it did happen, it is obvious that it did not, but then again now you'll probably answer we can dispense with scripture. so it sqtays useless to show the truth because you started this discussion convinced to slander everything HOLY was it ,ot with reason that the true church condemned your groups as heresie?
---andy3996 on 1/28/11




the fact that the Bible heavily implies and in fact teaches that Mary was not a perpetual virgin.
---mima on 1/27/11

I've yet since one! Where in scripture does it tell us everything has to be in the Bible to be true?
---Ruben on 1/28/11


Cluny:

You said: Now you know why it's called not only the virginal conception but virgin BIRTH.

Yes, but remember that the phrase "virgin birth" does not itself occur in the Bible. Also, when one talks about "virgin birth", one generally refers to the miracle of conception while still a virgin, NOT about delivery while still a virgin. That is a very subtle distintion which is merely splitting hairs (or, in this case, hymens), and is a particular detail one generally doesn't hear about in discussions on this issue.
---StrongAxe on 1/28/11


Courtship-stay virgin until the wedding.
The adversary Intent is for us to miss the "mark' which is the groom- "Christ".
Yehovah is One.

King of Kings documented by linerage of Mary-(some completely ignore-side tracked off path for mary's continued virginity).
Stay Focus-"turn back to the path"--Mary is From tribe of Levi-and Judah-priest line and King line-fulfilment of prophecy-Christ-King of King and Lord of Lords.

The adversary attempts to once again beguile into idolatry---praying to another-making them a false god.(Spiritual adultary)

Stay virgin.
Mark 13:17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Praise God-repentance unto remission.
---char on 1/28/11


\\I'll hint that once you have a baby naturally it would be a physical impossibility afterwards to still be a virgin. \\

Now you know why it's called not only the virginal conception but virgin BIRTH.
---Cluny on 1/28/11


The Bible can be read either way (says nothing or says she was not a virgin).

The comment about Jesus' 'brothers' is automatically incorrect, as at best they were of the same mother, not the same father (God) - it was just what people thought

We have little evidence, but I take the implications that Jesus' 'brothers' were children of Mary as more likely
---Peter on 1/28/11




In fairness, Reuben, while the Bible does not explicitly teach the perpetual virginity, there are enough hints that when all are considered lead one to this conclusion.
---Cluny on 1/27/11

It would be a faulty conclusion.
I'll hint that once you have a baby naturally it would be a physical impossibility afterwards to still be a virgin.
The hint you may be hearing is that she is the only virgin birth and is unique in that....father being GOD.


---Trav on 1/27/11


\\If Cluny, who is a true intellectual, starts to practice fairness you can expect him to readily come to the fact that the Bible heavily implies and in fact teaches that Mary was not a perpetual virgin.
---mima on 1/27/11\\

On the other hand, mima, who is not one, does not accept what the Bible actually teaches on this.
---Cluny on 1/27/11


Cluny:

You said: Those who think the Perpetual Virginity of Mary is not true are blind to the Word of God.

Even if the word until has nuances that are lost in the translation, it is dangerous to build any kind of doctrine (one way or other) based on the subtle nuances of a single word in a single sentence said in passing in a single verse in the entire Bible.

Many cultic behaviors result from such dogmatic inferences (for example, the Mormon practice of baptism for the dead).
---StrongAxe on 1/27/11


If Cluny, who is a true intellectual, starts to practice fairness you can expect him to readily come to the fact that the Bible heavily implies and in fact teaches that Mary was not a perpetual virgin.
---mima on 1/27/11


ginger on 1/23/11-agreed.

It is about Yeshua.
(Torah-to another questioned addressed)
The Torah instructs/teaches- "pointing out the direction one is to go" Ex 4:15 Yahweh says to Moses "and I will teach you what you shall do."
Torah is the arrow.[If] the arrow goes off course it "misses the mark, or strays from the path."
Mary is not the mark-
The Word of Yehovah-is.
"Delight in it"
Ps119:1, "Happy are the mature ones of the trail, the ones walking in the journey of YHWH."

Word in flesh-instruction...
Pray to the Father...
Mediator-His Word-Yeshua
etc...

We all fall short-not one is perfect.
Praise God for repentance unto remission.
---char on 1/27/11


Thank you Ginger. When all else fails see scripture.

RCC traditions, fables and in this case lies won't lead anyone into the knowledge of the truth.
---larry on 1/27/11


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Who understands these verses?

Acts 1:4 "These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers"

Matt 27:56 "Among them was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee"

John 19:25 "Therefore the soldiers did these things. But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene"

Matt 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?"
---Mark_Eaton on 1/27/11


In fairness, Reuben, while the Bible does not explicitly teach the perpetual virginity, there are enough hints that when all are considered lead one to this conclusion.
---Cluny on 1/27/11


"Those who think this is not true are blind to the word of God."
---ginger on 1/26/11

This statement by ginger says it all!!!
---mima on 1/26/11

But when both of you disagree on a scripture doctrine which of you are the bind one!
---Ruben on 1/27/11


\\"Those who think this is not true are blind to the word of God."
---ginger on 1/26/11

This statement by ginger says it all!!!
---mima on 1/26/11\\

That's right.

Those who think the Perpetual Virginity of Mary is not true are blind to the Word of God.
---Cluny on 1/27/11


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ginger*Ruben
He told him not to consumate his marriage to her until after Christ was born.

About Mt 1:25, it not saying what happen after, example:

Matthew 28:29 reads "I am with you "until the end of the world." Then we better hope the world never ends!

2 Samuel 6:23 reads "Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death." How many children did she have after her death?

ginger*When Jesus was 12.

Speaking about Jesus at the age of 12 Luke 2:44"But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey, and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance."

No mention here about asking his siblings,Why?
---Ruben on 1/26/11


\\CLUNY you are evidently confused the greek EOS is rightly translated till, or until. in Matthew 1: 25 it is rightly translated UNTIL.\\

If anybody should know what the Greek particle EOS means, it should be the Greek Orthodox Church, right?
---Cluny on 1/26/11


"Those who think this is not true are blind to the word of God."
---ginger on 1/26/11

This statement by ginger says it all!!!
---mima on 1/26/11


The word of God says it Cluny.
God told Joseph in his dream that he could not touch her until After Jesus was born.
That means he could not consumate his marriage to her until after Jesus was born.
When God came to Joseph and told him this, If God did not want Joseph to touch Mary ever again, he would have said so. But God didn't. God told him to hold off until after the Christ was born.
Again, are you going to continue to hold your false oral tradition or listen to the truth told in the word of God?
Not only did God tell Joseph this but look at the laws and traditions the jews observed. You of all people should know this stuff.
---ginger on 1/26/11


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Please prove God did NOT tell Joseph this.
---Cluny on 1/26/11
NOW NOW CLUNY!! YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE.

But, I assume you already knew that before you asked.
---John on 1/26/11


\\If God did NOT want Joseph to consumate his marriage to Mary, he would have told hhim never to touch her.\\

Please prove God did NOT tell Joseph this.
---Cluny on 1/26/11


CLUNY you are evidently confused the greek EOS is rightly translated till, or until. in Matthew 1: 25 it is rightly translated UNTIL. even I know that until indicates that something was done, or not done up till a certain point. in this case UNTIL MARY GAVE BIRTH. EOS is also translated in the KJV as EOS=LONG seven times. but the exiting thing is that it is easily replaced with UNTIL in every case.
Matt 17.17, mark9.19, Luke 9.41, John 10.24, revelation 69.10. and to dispense with bible proof is really an unchristian thing to do since Jesus came to fullfill the scriptures, and to bring us in the full light.
---andy3996 on 1/26/11


Ruben and all other orthodox who believe Joseph did not touch Mary..
God is not a God of lies nor deception. We see that all through the Bible.
If God did NOT want Joseph to consumate his marriage to Mary, he would have told hhim never to touch her. BUT That is not what god told Joseph. He told him not to consumate his marriage to her until after Christ was born.
In both OT and NT, the woman's body BELONGS to her husband and not herself.
We know from this that Mary did not stay a virgin after Jesus was born, She and Joseph were STILL married when Jesus was 12. That shows us they had consumated.
Those who think this is not true are blind to the word of God.
---ginger on 1/26/11


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\\andy3996 * why then does the bible say that Joseph did not have sexual intercourse UNTIL Mary gave birth .\\

I've already dealt with the meaning of EOS in Matthew 1 and 28 elsewhere on this very thread.

Read it.

**Howewver, it still seems to me that if it was NOT consummated, then that would be mentioned in the gospels,**

And why need it have been mentioned at all? Whose business would it have been?

++Clumy I wish to apologize to you. I am under the impression that I read where you said that you were a monk(about a year or year and a half ago) in the Orthodox Church.
---mima on 1/25/11++

I think you're confusing me with Fr. Brendan who no longer frequents these blogs.
---Cluny on 1/25/11


Just as an interesting aside, both Calvin and Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary. But they were wrong about a lot of things, it seems.
---John.usa on 1/25/11


\\John please tell me what Christological doctrine the Perpetual Virginity of Mary denies or affects
CLuny...

ONE WORD CLUNY....MARRIAGE!!!!!
---John on 1/25/11\\

Marriage is not a Christological doctrine--that is a teaching concerning the person, nature, and work of Christ.

Remember, Christ Himself never married.

Would you like to try again, John? Or is that the only shot in your locker?
---Cluny on 1/25/11


John:

How does it affect marriage, one way or other?
---StrongAxe on 1/25/11


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John please tell me what Christological doctrine the Perpetual Virginity of Mary denies or affects
CLuny...

ONE WORD CLUNY....MARRIAGE!!!!!
---John on 1/25/11


"why then does the bible say that Joseph did not have sexual intercourse UNTIL Mary gave birth if he did not have sexual intercourse after Jesus was born?"
---andy3996 when you ask questions like the one above you upset doctrinal beliefs. So please refrain from asking unanswerable questions.
---mima on 1/25/11


andy3996 * why then does the bible say that Joseph did not have sexual intercourse UNTIL Mary gave birth .

Where does the bible mention he had sexual intercouse with Mary?

""And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS."

Andy *If Joseph was a righteous man then he should have had sexual intercourse with Mary.

He was a righteous man, therefore knowing who is Jesus, he decided not to touch her!

Andy* according the Jewish Law marriage is to secure a holy seed (Malachi talks about this).

Ok, but they were going to be the Father and Mother of God himself, they were not a ordinary family having a ordinary child, were they?
---Ruben on 1/25/11


why then does the bible say that Joseph did not have sexual intercourse UNTIL Mary gave birth if he did not have sexual intercourse after Jesus was born. again, if Mary is sinless then She was obliged to allow Joseph, If Joseph was a righteous man then he should have had sexual intercourse with Mary. according the Jewish Law marriage is to secure a holy seed (Malachi talks about this). and no he did not violate the law in refraing himself from her during her pregnancy. if anyone knows the pentateuch he can confirm this
---andy3996 on 1/25/11


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Clumy I wish to apologize to you. I am under the impression that I read where you said that you were a monk(about a year or year and a half ago) in the Orthodox Church.
---mima on 1/25/11


\\Give it up! Its like rediculous to hear at what straws you are grabbing to argue a heresy that is staring right in your face."\\

John please tell me what Christological doctrine the Perpetual Virginity of Mary denies or affects.

And did you know that the reformers Chauvin (Calvin), Luther, and Zwingli believed it?

Are you saying they believed heresy?

\\But I would like to say to John or Ginger and anyone else who is arguing against Cluny that it may well be impossible for him to see the light. His believe in the "perpetual virginity of Mary" is a doctrinal position of a religion of which he is a monk!!!! \\

Where have I said that I was a monk, mima? Where did you get that idea?
---Cluny on 1/24/11


Once Mary had Jesus her body did not belong to her any more. It belonged to her husband. If God didn't want Joseph to have relations w/Mary after she had Jesus, God would have told him so.
---ginger on 1/22/11

Where does God tell Joseph to have relations with Mary?
1 Cor 7:4-5, does not take away what Paul said in the beginning 1 Cor 7:1-2 "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband" Because of their sexual immorality, then he encourages husband and wife to have relations!
---Ruben on 1/24/11


Cluny: I accept your right to believe that, as it is not written directly that Joseph and Mary's marriage WAS consummated

Howewver, it still seems to me that if it was NOT consummated, then that would be mentioned in the gospels, and since it is not, I take it that it was consummated
---Peter on 1/24/11


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What do you mean why isn't it?
Cluny it is obvious you have not studied the jewish laws of marriage if you are asking me this.
The Man is over the woman. She and her body belong to him.
God clearly gave instruction to the head...Joseph. God told Joseph not to divorce Mary because of what she was about to do and that God had done it and why. God also told Joseph NOT to touch her UNTIL AFTER she gave birth to Christ.
That is where the proof is at. Joseph certainly consumated his marriage and was given permission by GOD to consumate his marriage to Mary AFTER Christ was born.
Are you going to believe what God says in his word or are you going to believe your orthodox tradition?
---ginger on 1/24/11


Cluny: Whie I cannot prove (directly from the Bible) that Mary was NOt always a virgin, reading Scriptures it seems much more likely

If you feel differently, I cannot say it is IN ANY WAY a fauld or failiure of yours.

But I do not read Scripture that way.

But we are STILL brothers in Christ, are we not?
---Peter on 1/23/11


\\By the way Cluny, I already know about the argument you are giving me about the first born son thing.\\

What makes you think I was addressing you in particular about this?

\\But see, in the Bible, that is not the clue.\\

Why isn't it?
---Cluny on 1/23/11


John wrote,
"Cluny PLEASE....
Give it up! Its like rediculous to hear at what straws you are grabbing to argue a heresy that is staring right in your face."

But I would like to say to John or Ginger and anyone else who is arguing against Cluny that it may well be impossible for him to see the light. His believe in the "perpetual virginity of Mary" is a doctrinal position of a religion of which he is a monk!!!!

---mima on 1/23/11


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By the way Cluny, I already know about the argument you are giving me about the first born son thing.
But see, in the Bible, that is not the clue.
The clue is in what God tells Joseph NOT Mary.

I am wondering why some people have trouble putting 2 and 2 together?
I mean Mary was not the only one in the story of Jesus, hello.
---ginger on 1/23/11


What makes you think God didn't tell Joseph this, ginger?//

Because first, it is not written.
Second, God told Joseph not to consumate his marriage until after Jesus was born.

If God wanted this to not happen then he would have told Joseph not to touch her ever.

Knowing Jewish law, You should know that a marriage was not a real marriage until it was consummated and virginity was proven. This is why God came to Joseph and told him exactly what to do and what not to do.
So, I believe God what about you?
---ginger on 1/22/11


Cluny PLEASE....
Give it up! Its like rediculous to hear at what straws you are grabbing to argue a heresy that is staring right in your face.

Face it... The "Patriarch" has No clothes!"

IT'S A DUCK!
---John on 1/22/11


What makes you think God didn't tell Joseph this, ginger?

In any case, consider this:

In Judaism, "firstborn son" does NOT mean the woman had other children.

If and ONLY if the first pregnancy of a woman results in the delivery of a LIVE MALE CHILD is this the "firstborn son" and subject to the Law of Redemption.

If her first pregnancy results in the delivery of a daughter, or terminates in abortion, miscarriage, or stillbirth, and then she has a son, this is NOT a "firstborn son."

Nor, should she have a "firstborn son", in this technical sense, need she have any other children for this son to be called such.

What I say can be verified on Jewish sites.
---Cluny on 1/22/11


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Cluny: Have you ever stopped to think that that only way to make sure that the Virgin Birth is true is that the Theotokos MUST have remained a virgin afterwards?

The way you put it, for someone who won't believe other ways, is fine. But I check as to whether she was a virgin BEFORE Jesus was born is just as reliable!
---Peter on 1/22/11


No Ruben, we are not talking about that verse.

We are talking about this one...
1 Corinthians 7:4-5
4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer, and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Once Mary had Jesus her body did not belong to her any more. It belonged to her husband. If God didn't want Joseph to have relations w/Mary after she had Jesus, God would have told him so.
---ginger on 1/22/11


Cluny:

You asked: Have you ever stopped to think that that only way to make sure that the Virgin Birth is true is that the Theotokos MUST have remained a virgin afterwards?

How does this follow logically? The only way to "make sure" it was a virgin birth would be if Mary had had a gynecological examination before giving birth, and even if it would have been possible to tell afterwards, the only way to make sure she was "ever-virgin" would have been to given her one post mortem - very difficult for those who believe she was assumed bodily into heaven.
---StrongAxe on 1/22/11


Cluny: Mary's 'rather crude gynecological exam' - I take it this was asked by Joseph, because he wanted to be sure Mary was still a virgin. That is fine - I mean, you indicate you feel that Joseph and Mary never 'knew each other'. I don't mind you feeling that way, I just state that we do not have clear, Biblical evidence of it.

Also - as far as I know, that 'exam' can only be done BEFORE the woman gives birth, not after
---Peter on 1/22/11


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John.usa: Please go to blog "Why Mary Mother of Jesus" (1/6/11). It should more than adequately answer your questions.
---Leon on 1/21/11


In fact, if you look at what Paul taught, she would have violted it after this too.
Paul says that a husband a dn a wife should not keep themselves from each other except when fasting and praying. This prevents adultery from happening in the marriage.
But I guess they don't see, huh?
---ginger on 1/21/11

Actually, Paul says "Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman. 1 Cor 7:1

It is only to avoid "sexual immorality" that Paul encourages sexual relations (1 Cor 7:2).
---Ruben on 1/21/11




That's too easy Cluny: You do it by your inability to prove Joseph was previously married.
---Leon on 1/21/11


\\Cluny: If you want it as proof provided in court, that Mary bore Jesus as a virgin, and to be checked by a doctor AFTER Jesus birth - true\\

As a matter of fact, there's an old story about the Theotokos being given a rather crude gynecological exam by a midwife who doubted that she was a virgin.
---Cluny on 1/21/11


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Jesus says if you lust for a woman, you have committed adultery with her, already, in your heart. So, I would say marriage can be like this, that what you decide to do, you have already done it, in your heart. Let's say you take a woman but then she becomes sick so she can't be "consummating". You loved her in your heart. You did it in your heart. So, it is not limited, like this. Love is what makes you married and truly consummated . . . I think (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/21/11


Amen andy.
Mary was still under the lawe because CHrist had not died and risen yet to fulfill the law and give our salvation.

In fact, if you look at what Paul taught, she would have violted it after this too.
Paul says that a husband a dn a wife should not keep themselves from each other except when fasting and praying. This prevents adultery from happening in the marriage.
But I guess they don't see, huh?
---ginger on 1/21/11


Cluny: If you want it as proof provided in court, that Mary bore Jesus as a virgin, and to be checked by a doctor AFTER Jesus birth - true

But we do not need that, I hope, we are only told that she was a virgin until Jesus was born
---Peter on 1/21/11


Have you ever stopped to think that that only way to make sure that the Virgin Birth is true is that the Theotokos MUST have remained a virgin afterwards?
---Cluny on 1/21/11


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I agree with the post made by---andy3996 on 1/21/11
---mima on 1/21/11


does anyone takes in account that with the doctrine of perpetual virginity the ancient churches accuse Mary of violating a sacrament to accomplish God's will? if the ancient churches want us too believe that mary was sinless in all that she did, then they need to acknowledge that she and Joseph had a HOLY SEXUAL RELATION AFTER Jesus birth in agreement with the LAW.
---andy3996 on 1/21/11


\\Some try to explain this idea of the "perpetual virginity of Mary" by stating Joseph had been married before marrying Mary, and theses are his sons from his first marriage. But there is no documentation of that idea.\\

Why not?

Matthew 1:2 speaks of "Judah and his brothers"--yet they had 4 mothers among them.

How can you DISPROVE Joseph having a previous marriage?
---Cluny on 1/21/11


In Luke, it is implied that Joseph only 'knew' Mary after she gave birth to Jesus - it seems very unlikely that Luke would write that line the way he did 'until she gave birth' if, in fact, he never 'knew' her
---Peter on 1/21/11


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Christ had 4 half-brothers. Their names are, Jude (Judas - but not the one who betrayed Jesus,but who wrote the book of Jude), James (who wrote the book of James) Simon & Joses. See Matthew 13:55 for conformation. The belief in "the perpetual virginity of Mary" is not accurate if these half-brothers were from the union of Joseph & Mary. Some try to explain this idea of the "perpetual virginity of Mary" by stating Joseph had been married before marrying Mary, and theses are his sons from his first marriage. But there is no documentation of that idea.
---wivv on 1/20/11


\\Jesus had brothers and sisters. Their names are recorded in scripture.
---Disciple on 1/20/11\\

Please give their names, giving Book, Chapter, and Verse.
---Cluny on 1/20/11


Many believe that Jesus entrusted Mary his mother to John and his disciple because no one in his family(none of his Brothers) believed in him at the time of his crucifixion.
---mima on 1/19/11

And that theory makes no sense, Jesus is God he of all would know that they would become believers. Besides how long did they take to believe!
Acts 1:14 "They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers. "
---Ruben on 1/20/11


Mary did not die a virgin scripture points out that Mary had children after the birth of Christ. Jesus had brothers and sisters. Their names are recorded in scripture.
---Disciple on 1/20/11


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Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
---micha9344 on 1/19/11


If people think Mary remained a virgin, that's okay by me. And if they don't think so, that's okay too. :-)
---John.usa on 1/19/11


There is no reason to suppose that she remained a virgin.
---Samuel on 1/19/11


Sure there is:
1) how she response to the angel "Then Mary said to the angel, How can this be, since I do not know a man?(LK 1:34)

2) The brothers mention in Mark 6:3 are mention in Mark 16:1,Matthew 27:56 and Luke 24:10

3)If Jesus had brothers and Sisters at least 8 to 9 sibling, no mention of them in Luke chapter 2

4) Mary is never mention to have other children.

5) After having Jesus, she would not have no time to raising Jesus because you guys have her shooting babies left and right, it doesn't sound right to me nor the early christians!
---Ruben on 1/19/11


Many believe that Jesus entrusted Mary his mother to John and his disciple because no one in his family(none of his Brothers) believed in him at the time of his crucifixion.
---mima on 1/19/11


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Why did JESUS entrust Mary to John is a good question. We know He had brothers and sisters.

In the custom of the time you cannot entrust the mother to a daughter. She was responsible for taking car of her Mother in law.

Some say James and Jude were half brothers. Others think that since they had not yet made a profession of following JESUS that He was handing her over to one who was his follower. There is no reason to suppose that she remained a virgin.
---Samuel on 1/19/11


Jesus had sibling by Mary and Joseph it is plainly stated in the New Testament.

This question is without merit.
---Blogger9211 on 1/19/11


I don't know if Mary had more children. But if she did, why did Jesus on the cross entrust her to John, in order that she be cared for? If she had children, that was their duty, not John's.
---John.usa on 1/19/11


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