Blooger ... "I was specifically trained analyze situations and make rapid correct decisions that effected the survivability of hundreds of millions of lives in the counter force & counter value nuclear arena have you? My state of training is simply higher than yours"
Thank God the situation did not arise where your judgement had to be proved.
I was trained in and put into daily practice the interpretation of what people were saying to me. I actually did it.
I am quite capable of assessing what the questioner here is asking. She is asking for biblical facts from Christians, which she would not get from your secular agencies which will give secular advice.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/14/11|
Correct a wise man and s/he'll bless you (proverbs)
in retrospect correct a unwise man and s/he'll curse you.....
Please father bless blogger with the blessings of a meek and lowly spirit,sensitivity and respect, take way self...
cast him/her not away from your presence or lord and take not they holy spirit from him/her restore unto H/her the joy of your salvation and spirit within
renew a right H/Her.(psalms)
---Carla on 2/14/11|
Blogger: Arrogance is not a very Christian trait, it is the opposite of humility and something you have a great deal of. So what if you were trained to analyze stuff. I am trained to practice psychotherapy, and help people work through their problems. Does that make you better than me? No.
These blogs are for all sorts of questions, and if you don't like a question, don't answer it. To insult someone who may NOT know where to turn is the height of arrogance.
Try reading 1 Corinthians 13 everyday for a month and see if God can turn your hard heart into something softer.
---Trish9863 on 2/14/11|
Alan8566_of_the_UK & Carla, Shaquana Norwood seems to be more interested in having a pity party than anything else. She is not using the resources that are immediately available to her. Both of her questions are devoid of merit. She needs the services of an attorney and professional counseling and she is not going to get either one on ChristNet Blogs. She can access both by using the yellow pages in a phone book or an Internet search and by failing to do so she lacks credibility. I was specifically trained analyze situations and make rapid correct decisions that effected the survivability of hundreds of millions of lives in the counter force & counter value nuclear arena have you? My state of training is simply higher than yours.
---Blogger9211 on 2/14/11|
Blooger 9211 Shaquana asked two questions.
How long is a christian wife is suppose to stand by her husband?
Is there anything in the Bible that gives us the okay to walk away?
She won't get answers to those questions from professional counsellors.
Yet you would deny her the chance of getting answers from Christians
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/13/11|
blogger you sound the very harsh self seeking type of person would trun someone away if they we burning, telling them to go find their own water pipe.
Christ is going back for sheep not goats, if you didn't have anything constructive to say other than criticism you should have gone away and prayed for wisdom.
Why wisdom? becasue kings rules by wisdom and gave sound judgement, I mean the kings blessed by God.
Pray that you too may be able to give sound judgement...
---Carla on 2/13/11|
Alan8566_of_UK, my comments were definitely appropriate and right on target. All of the resources she needs to solve her problem are available to her in any public phone book. Her husband has all ready divorced her in his mind and is behaving as if he were not married. He is stealing from her he is in all likelihood she is the primary the primary bed winner for the family there is no complaint of physical abuse as of yet but when she refuses to give him more money to support whatever bad habits he manifest it will likely occur. She has failed to use the resources available to her and come to us crying about her problems on ChristiaNet instead of solving them herself.
---Blogger9211 on 2/13/11|
I do not know your situation, of course
For you to put some distance between yourself and your husband, could well be acceptable
Please also remember ' how many times shall I forgive my brother?'
---Peter on 2/1/11|
When you say walking away, it seems you mean to divorce. I do not believe the examples you give are grounds for divorce. Oh, some might call them abusive but what I would call abusive would be calling you bad words, or your children, and also physical abuse. If he stopped going to church is not a good enough reason. What I see is that you want to justify leaving him and only speak of the negatives because you do not mention one good thing he does. Separation is ok, but only to give God time to change him and you. Notice I did not just say him.
---Mark_V. on 2/1/11|
Blogger ... She specifically asks ... is there anything in the Bible that gives us the OK to walk away.
That is a question that can be asked here, and it is unlikely that your professional would be able to anser it.
She is right to ask that here, but should go to a counsellor for comments about legal rights snd do on.
I am afraid your comments are out of order here
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/26/11|
reconcile means restore to harmony or to settle and resolve. somehow reconciliation has narrowly come to mean to live together again.
in the OT, because of centuries of spiritual abuse, God chose to separate and eventually divorce Israel, and because there was no repentance, God offered the gift of inheritance to another. His whole plan is to bring us together eventually as one, but not by allowing the unrepentant to coexist with the truly delivered. Gal 5 is about walking in Spirit or not. Those (although imperfect) who have chosen to walk in the Spirit, cannot coexist with those who continually walk in flesh.
I advocate divorce for very little. however, deliverance from sin does require separation to properly reconcile.
---aka on 1/26/11|
Admittedly some marriages are more challenging than others. 1Cor7:11 seems to say that if you feel you have to leave your marriage partner then remain unmarried or else be reconciled to them.
I wouldn't want to go beyond what God says in His word in advising those in difficulties. Remember God is working in our lives even though we may not notice it at the time.
But, Gal 5:13,15 is about not judging one another.
---Haz27 on 1/25/11|
if what you say is true, that he steals the hoousehold money for bad habbits, then i advice you to propose him to visit marriage counseling, if that does not work you can take legal actions (for the good of the family not to vengeance yourself)but to pack and lmeave ius really the last and final option, and should not be imagined.
---andy3996 on 1/25/11|
I think it would be wise to counsult your pastor over this, and seek his counsel. I also think that when you have done all you know to do, and nothing has changed, that you should pray about temp. removing yourself from the situation, and placing yourself and the children in a safe place, giving your husband time to think about and work thru his issues.
---silverwings on 1/25/11|
blogger, Stop stomping Christians. This is a free website where not only Christians post, but even as you are there are some NonChristians whom sinfully delight in stomping on Christians. Christianet rightly posted this womans post, asking what the Bible says about leaving a spouse whom steals from her and her children.
---Eloy on 1/25/11|
//There is no scripture that gives you justification to "walk away".//
but, there is scripture that justifies distance for your preservation and his:
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty, only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another...Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
preserve yourself, collect yourself first.
anybody who has not been married to an addict will say, "stick together...no matter what..." this is not always scriptural or prudent.
---aka on 1/24/11|
Sounds like your husband needs help. Our culture easily accepts any reason to divorce, but this is not how God wants us to be.
There is no scripture that gives you justification to "walk away".
Our obligation is to love one another and love does no harm to another.
Pray and trust God. He works all things together for good to those who love Him...
---Haz27 on 1/24/11|
It doesn't matter whether he gambles, drugs or what, if he isn't supporting his family and especially his children, he is worse than an infidel. God said that...I didn't but I agree with God.
---shira3877 on 1/24/11|
blogger get over it. Nobody cares about your political correct stance and how society percieves this. The woman is desperate for help. It's probably not even her real name or better to mask herself.
Our we true christians or what? should we turn the other way and ignore her cry?
I think the only reason in a marriage to leave is adultry or abuse. SO I dont know what she is going thru but speak to a women's advocate I am sure there is some in your local town.
Good luck to you and keep asking for help because you will get it.
---vivian on 1/24/11|
Quite to the contrary Mary, she need to be stomped on for this as well as other who submit post like this. This is anything but a safe private environment. Professionals working in the areas she needs help in will not respond to these type of post as it is a violation of professional ethics to do so. And the bloggers on ChristiaNet including myself are not professionally qualified to help her. ChristiaNet is for Christian discussion not a place to complain about personal family problems. The post should have never been approved in the first place. ChristiaNet continues to retrograde as it is more interested in getting hits to sell Google ads and links to Facebook, Twitter, and the other sites or the right side bar above the blogger instructions
---Blogger9211 on 1/24/11|
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How long is a christian wife is suppose to stand by her husband?
Stand by him as long as he can stand, and when he lays down: lay down with him
---francis on 1/24/11|
Have you noticed how much you've said, "me, me, I, my, mine...." in this post?
When you get married, it's no longer your money and his money--but "our money," so he can't steal from you, nor you from him.
And you've not said what your husband's bad habits are.
Assuming that he's drinking too much or using illegal drugs, it might be necessary for you to leave him for him to hit bottom--but this is only for HIS good to effect a reconciliation.
OTOH, you say, "He's stopped going to church with ME." Is he going to church by himself? If so, why don't you go with him?
---Cluny on 1/24/11|
I think what is very important is to put your children first. Do they know he steals,if they do then they are learning its ok to steal,Daddy does it. They also may grow up thinking Mom did nothing to stop him stealing from us. You have no obligations to support a man in his sin,or stand by him. Pray for God's leading and help and then do what is best for you and especially your children. 1 Corinthians 5:11,13 But now I have written unto you not to keep company,if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,covetous,idoltor,railer,drunkard,extortioner,with such an one know not to eat. The Bible tells a husband to love his wife as Christ loves the church and gave himself for it.Your husband isn't living by that.
---Darlene_1 on 1/24/11|
Blogger9211, When a Christian asks for help from being damaged an unequally yoked relationship, unsaved clay should not misjudge the innocent Christian, for the measure you give out against God's child will surely return upon your own head.
---Eloy on 1/24/11|
shaquana_norwood, Your husband needs to get saved, and become a real born-again Christian. I would confront your husband and tell him that he needs to first pay back the money that he stole from you and your children and apologize for stealing. Then tell him that he needs to get saved like you are, or else he will not be able to go to heaven where there are no thieves nor immoral persons, but he will end of tormented for all eternity in the lake of fire and brimstone. If he refuses salavation, the Holy Bible gives license to divorce from the wicked, for it is better to enter into life maimed or with one arm or with one hand then to have your whole body cast into hell where the fire is never quenched and the worm will never die.
---Eloy on 1/24/11|
You're supposed to stand by him for as long as you're both alive (See Matt 19:3-9). The Bible does not condone divorce, but you may separate with the condition that you be reconciled to your husband when he wants you to or you remain unmarried forever. (1 Cor 7:10,11 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.)
---AlwaysOn on 1/24/11|
Yes we do have certain obligations to our spouses and marriages, according to the Word of God. And it looks like you have gotten taken in by the ol' demon,himself. But you don't have to stay in this pit. At least separate from this man, so you can think clearly. Pray and ask the Lord, always, the direction for your life. But do know: if you separate from your spouse, you will not be able to remarry until he is deceased. Know this also: Many preachers, teachers and other leaders in the church has remarried and moved on with their lives. But ever situation is different. I would start trying to work things out with him,first.Voice your feelings and concerns to him. If he does not try to change over a period of time. I would separate from him. GBU
---Robyn on 1/24/11|
If your husband is unfaithful you have biblical grounds for a divorce. also the bible leaves a stipulation to leave for peace sake. Sometimes u have to separate from the problem to be able to help and pray from a healthy perspective. It is hard to pray for someone who is stealing from u and your children. His habit could also put u and children in danger. I suggest separating and praying for God to help him see the light. There is nothing too hard for God!
---Ladyb77 on 1/24/11|
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//don't air dirty laundry outside the family.//
If something needs "airing"... a group of anonymous strangers who have no idea who you are, is a pretty good place for it.
But it would help, as Trish suggests, to have a little more clarification. Nobody can give much of an answer to the question as is.
---Donna66 on 1/24/11|
mary ... I agree with you. No-one knows who she is, and she needs some guidance! A
Trish ... it is easy fopr a man to steal from his wife.
The gambling addict I know used to steal his wife's money that she had earned form her purse, and broke open the kids money boxes. And he also gambled the money earned
Fortunately he is now saved, but still needs the support of Gamblers Anonymous.
Unless you say that the husband is the HEAD of the household, even to the extent that he is allowed to gamble away all their money, you can't do anything but calling that stealing!
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/24/11|
Blogger, don't come down so hard on her, she's simply asking advice from fellow believers in a safe, private atmosphere. I mean, no one knows who she is, really. Cut her some slack!
---Mary on 1/24/11|
Can you be more specific about the bad habits?
How can your husband steal from you?
---Trish on 1/24/11|
The first thing you need to learn is to keep family matters in the family and don't air dirty laundry outside the family. We are not interested in personal sob stories. You bring disrespect on your self, your children and your husband. You need personal professional counseling and an attorney. Your problem is going to be solved in 120 days but this post is going to be brought up for years until it gets 75 comments.
---Blogger9211 on 1/24/11|