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Nicene Creed Baptism

In the Nicene creed (written by people who had studied scripture, and some feel were the fathers of the church, to instruct us) it is written 'I confess one baptism for the remission of sins'. I can only find one verse in the Bible that goes with it. Anyone else find more?

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one verse written to the nation of Israel not the boC.
---michael_e on 2/17/11

????. Explain thyself pilgrim.
---Trav on 2/18/11


one verse written to the nation of Israel not the boC.
---michael_e on 2/17/11


Then WHY are you still trying to live under the OLD one--and force others to do likewise?
---Cluny on 2/13/11

I have no clue what you are talking about. I have never forced anyone to do anything in my entire life
---francis on 2/15/11


Then WHY are you still trying to live under the OLD one--and force others to do likewise?
---Cluny on 2/13/11

Force others? Explain her Force. The force is with you....if you have witnesses.

May the Force be with you.

Proverbs 7:21
With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
---Trav on 2/14/11


\\francis, did the New Covenant go into effect with the death of Christ, the Resurrection, the Ascension, or the Descent of the Holy Spirit?
---Cluny on 2/12/11

His DEATH\\

Then WHY are you still trying to live under the OLD one--and force others to do likewise?
---Cluny on 2/13/11




francis, did the New Covenant go into effect with the death of Christ, the Resurrection, the Ascension, or the Descent of the Holy Spirit?
---Cluny on 2/12/11

His DEATH
Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death
Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament [is], there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:17 For a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
---francis on 2/13/11


francis, did the New Covenant go into effect with the death of Christ, the Resurrection, the Ascension, or the Descent of the Holy Spirit?
---Cluny on 2/12/11


BCV, please.
---Cluny on 2/12/11

Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day,besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
---francis on 2/12/11


\\YEP, and if this theif died AFTER jesus died ( which he did) then he died under new covenant.
---francis on 2/7/11\\

BCV, please.
---Cluny on 2/12/11


Was St. Dismas (as his name is traditionally given) Jewish?

There's no evidence either way that I can find.---Cluny on 2/5/11

Men baptise with water. Christ baptises with Holy Spirit.
Thief on cross...technically was Baptised by Christ.
He may have been Judean....OR one of Eleven other nations of divorced Israel.
1.Witnesses. thief recognized Jesus for who he was, called him Lord. He knew law. He knew of GOD. He knew of GOD's kingdom.
2.Jeremiah 2:26
As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed, they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets.
3. Mrk 15:28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
---Trav on 2/7/11




Hebrews 9:17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
---Trav on 2/4/

YEP, and if this theif died AFTER jesus died ( which he did) then he died under new covenant.
---francis on 2/7/11


\\Is it?
---Cluny on 2/3/11

Lets look for them. Did the thief die under the Old Covenant or the new?
---Trav on 2/3/11\\

Was St. Dismas (as his name is traditionally given) Jewish?

There's no evidence either way that I can find.

But, as I said, this was BEFORE Christ gave the commandment to be baptized.
---Cluny on 2/5/11


Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

mima and others, do you believe this?

If you do, then you believe in salvation by WORKS, as any use of the mouth is an externality, and hence a WORK.
---Cluny on 2/5/11


\\It seemed reasonable to believe that baptism is necessary for salvation then baptism must necessarily be treated as a work.

and work salvation is a no- no!!!
---mima on 2/4/11\\

mima, on these very blogs you've boasted about how many people you've gotten to say the so-called "sinner's prayer," even though Jesus said what men esteem as a great thing is an ABOMINATION to God.

Now, if a person can be saved by saying a prayer, as you insist, isn't saying the prayer a WORK?
---Cluny on 2/4/11


John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
NEW COVENANT ---FRANCIS on 2/4/11

Hebrews 9:17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Matthew 3:6
Were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
---Trav on 2/4/11


\\It seemed reasonable to believe that baptism is necessary for salvation then baptism must necessarily be treated as a work.\\

Wrong again, mima.

Do you baptize yourself? If you did, it would be a work.

But you don't. You RECEIVE baptism at the hands of another.
---Cluny on 2/4/11


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Lets look for them. Did the thief die under the Old Covenant or the new?
---Trav on 2/3/11

That depends, if Jesus died before the thief then he died under the new covenant. If the thief died before Jesus then he died under the old covenant.

John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.

John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:

NEW COVENANT
---FRANCIS on 2/4/11


It seemed reasonable to believe that baptism is necessary for salvation then baptism must necessarily be treated as a work.

and work salvation is a no- no!!!
---mima on 2/4/11


I could make an arguement that the only apostle to be baptized was Paul.

Does anyone have a biblical acount of the batism of peter, james, matthew, and john?

Maybe thier records got misfiled along with the records of the thief on the cross.
---francis on 2/3/11


**Sometimes the absence of witnesses is the witness.**Is it? ---Cluny on 2/3/11

Lets look for them. Did the thief die under the Old Covenant or the new?---Trav on 2/3/11


Why baptize at all? To fulfill. Is there a witness or two?

Eze 16:8Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love,I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, thou becamest mine.
16:9Then washed I thee with water, yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, ....
Psalm 18:16He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters.
Ezekiel 36:25Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you,....
---Trav on 2/3/11


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\\Well, you have a point. But what about the robber on the cross, who was NOT baptised, but still was saved?
---Jen on 2/3/11\\

This was before Christ gave the commandment to be baptized.

**Sometimes the absence of witnesses is the witness.**

Is it?
---Cluny on 2/3/11

Lets look for them. Did the thief die under the Old Covenant or the new?
---Trav on 2/3/11


\\Well, you have a point. But what about the robber on the cross, who was NOT baptised, but still was saved?
---Jen on 2/3/11\\

This was before Christ gave the commandment to be baptized.

**Sometimes the absence of witnesses is the witness.**

Is it?
---Cluny on 2/3/11


---Mark_Eaton on 2/3/11 I read your post. I did not see any verse that list thenames of all who john of jesus' disciples did baptize. If there was a list, it is at all posible that this thief on the cross could have his name on that list?
---francis on 2/3/11


We just do not know with 100% certainity if he was baptized or not.
---francis on 2/3/11

But was not the point of Jen's post to say that baptism does NOT give you the remission of sins?

The verse that I see that goes with the original blog question is 1 Peter 3:21 which says at the end of the verse that salvation comes through Jesus (resurrection).

Baptism identifies us with Christ's death and resurrection (Rom 6). It standing alone does not give us salvation. Only by being accompanied with faith in Christ does it grant us any value.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/3/11


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//Bruce5656 on 2/3/11 The baptism that saves is the baptism into the Body of Christ. In this case the Holy Spirit does the baptising and we are baptized into (immersed into) Jesus body at which time we receive the Holy Spirit in us (drink into one Spirit)//
Thank you and amen.
---michael_e on 2/3/11


There are more than one baptism mentioned in the New Testament (Baptism in: water, spirit, fire, body of Christ.)

The baptism that saves is the baptism into the Body of Christ. In this case the Holy Spirit does the baptising and we are baptized into (immersed into) Jesus body at which time we receive the Holy Spirit in us (drink into one Spirit).

This is clearly stated in: 1 Corinthians 12:12-13, "For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."
---Bruce5656 on 2/3/11


Well, you have a point. But what about the robber on the cross, who was NOT baptised, but still was saved?
---Jen on 2/3/11
How do you know for sure that he was not baptized?

John was baptizing, maybe he was baptized by John. Jesus disciples were baptizing, maybe he was baptized by them

We just do not know with 100% certainity if he was baptized or not.
---francis on 2/3/11


How many times must the Bible say something in order for it to be true?
---Cluny on 2/2/11

Two or more witnesses are required.
Sometimes the absence of witnesses is the witness.
Sometimes the witness is the translators wrong interpretation....and the correct one brings the witnesses out bulk.

Scripture talks about false witnesses. And the punishment.
But,if GOD provides a witness....who can hide him. If GOD wants him revealed...the seeker will find this witness.
There is always a second witness. In some cases scripturally there are hundreds....thousands.
---Trav on 2/3/11


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Cluny: 'How many times must the Bible say something in order for it to be true?'

Well, you have a point. But what about the robber on the cross, who was NOT baptised, but still was saved?
---Jen on 2/3/11


How many times must the Bible say something in order for it to be true?
---Cluny on 2/2/11


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