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Donna, my late grandmother, an RN, was a nursing supervisor on the night shift at a small hospital. When my mom needed her to babysit she took me to work with her. I slept in a private room, but I remember hearing a woman moan and cry all night. Later, I learned the hospital had a reputation for performing abortions and that those cries were common. This was pre-Roe vs Wade and although they were only allowed if a woman's life or mental health were endangered, lots of them were done.

I've read elsewhere that some states that allowed them under special circumstances outnumbered the procedures performed in states with more liberal laws.

Arguments about legality are fruitless if we don't learn to prevent unwanted pregnancies sooner.
---AlwaysOn on 3/15/11


Donna could you have been listening to good ol' gossip or did you see these things yourself?
---Elder on 3/15/11


Elder--- I was not in a position to question doctors concept of a "life threatening"
condition. I was not present to observe abortions outside the hospital. I had to rely on patient accounts.
---Donna66 on 3/14/11


Donna don't get like someone else on CN that imagines things are said about them. I commented on what you said.
Rhonda got it right when she said, "
abortions are made "legal" by mankind and they will REMAIN legal because abortion is a multi-BILLION dollar enterprise with hundreds of interest groups to keep the murder factory in business."
My question is if you saw so much illegal stuff why didn't you report it?
---Elder on 3/13/11


Elder -- Did I say abortion should be legal???

Not at all! But when it was illegal doctors performed abortions for some of the flimsiest "medical " reasons. Some doctors just disobeyed the law, expecting that their patients would not accuse them or testify against them. It was very rare for a Dr. to be prosecuted for performing abortions. I remember those days well. I worked at a county hospital then, so I was aware of things most people were not.

My point was that even making it illegal for doctors to "charge" for the procedure, would not make much difference if the demand for abortions continue. (Dr.'s would simply charge more for other services to compensate.)
---Donna66 on 3/13/11




abortions are made "legal" by mankind and they will REMAIN legal because abortion is a multi-BILLION dollar enterprise with hundreds of interest groups to keep the murder factory in business

abortion is JUST another term for MURDER the twisting of words to placate women who CHOOSE to not take responsibility for their actions

Satan the father of lies is pleased with those who take a stand for him and his ways yet out the other side of their mouth the foolishly claim christianity

no matter how you mask the murdering of innocent children with a medical term called abortion it is STILL murder in eyes of The Father in Heaven
---Rhonda on 3/13/11


Donna anything ILLEGAL, as you shout, can be prosecuted and punished by jail time and fines plus loss of license. There is no argument that can convince me that abortion should be legal and/or paid for by taxes.
Strange how the American public supports murdering innocent unborn people and cry about killing enemy combat soldiers. What portion does the Born Again Christian legitimately have in this activity?
---Elder on 3/13/11


Elder--Abortion is like any service-- It's a matter of supply and demand. If there is a demand for abortions... doctors will perform them (and find a way to get paid)!. They managed this even when abortion was ILLEGAL.

Now, if abortion was a high risk procedure that might result in a law suit, many would cease to do them. That's the case with Obstetrics. Malpractice insurance in this specialty is so high...doctors who used to deliver babies often refuse to do so now.
---Donna66 on 3/12/11


Donna you and others shall find out that medicare physicals shall NOT be free.
My point is/was there is much crying about the health of women/poor women that "need" abortions (as birth control, IMO). Many "concerned doctors" would not preform them if they didn't get paid.
---Elder on 3/12/11


Could you expound a bit more on your reasoning, Elder? I don't get the connection between legal and free. Doctors (in the U.S. anyway) wouldn't want to perform any procedure for free, not just abortions.

In places like California, first trimester abortions and, in some cases, second trimester abortions are covered by Medi-Cal, so they are performed at no cost to eligible patients.
---AlwaysOn on 3/12/11




Elder---strange reasoning: if "it's legal it should be free". Sounds like Obama's royal proclamation that all
medicare physicals shall be free. (It doesn't occur to him that physicians are not an extension of government and that patients will just be charged more for something else)

But I get your point about "free" abortions. It's theoretically true that doctors wouldn't want to do them. Only thing is, that doctor's would begin to charge double for anesthesia, "Pre-op counseling" and after care! If the demand is there...and it is..physicians will seek to meet it.
---Donna66 on 3/12/11


As I have said before if abortions are made to be completely legal then they should be free also.
Let's pass a law that requires any doctor/person who preforms an abortion do it completely free of any charges. Think about how that will "help the poor." (Yea)
But mostly it will take the money out of the practice. Doctors would get out of the butcher and meat cutting business very quickly.
---Elder on 3/11/11


OTHER TRANSLATIONS:
Gods word translated: Her stomach will swell, her uterus will drop, and she will become cursed among her people

NIV:it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse

CONTENPORARY ENGLISH:the woman has been unfaithful, the water will immediately make her unable to have children, and she will be a curse among her people.

By reading multiple translation, the woman will lose that baby and never have another child again
---francis on 3/9/11


Try again, francis.
---Cluny on 3/8/11
NIV:27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse
---francis on 3/9/11


Illegal or not I will not say.

But I beleive OUR duty is not to work to make them illegal, it is to make as few women as possible WANT an abortion

That will also make others, non-Christian, feel that we are being more caring, not pushing out beleifs on others
---Peter on 3/9/11


\\---paul on 3/6/11

You only say what you have heard, but study it without the anti obortionist bias, the woman would abort.\\

Not saying a single thing here about abortion. You are simply superimposing your preconceived idea on it.

The most it means is female trouble--possibly cancer--resulting in barrenness.

Try again, francis.
---Cluny on 3/8/11


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Even the venerable preacher J. Vernon McGee used to say that abortion is allowed, or even required, under some circumstances, such as rape.
---John.usa on 3/8/11


---paul on 3/6/11

You only say what you have heard, but study it without the anti obortionist bias, the woman would abort.
Numbers 5:27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, [that], if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, [and become] bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

Same as God taking the life of the boy born to David and Bathsheba, before te marriage
---francis on 3/8/11


\\If one is truly concerned with the life of the child, one will do everything necessary to ensure abortions happen as rarely as possible - discouraging mothers from having them, reducing conditions that induce mothers to abort in the first place, etc.\\

You will find no argument from me here.

Women deserve more and better choices than "go get vacuumed out."
---Cluny on 3/7/11


There is always a terrible outrage in the Christian community about the injustice of abortion. Yet it is interesting to examine the roots of this outrage.

If one is truly concerned with the life of the child, one will do everything necessary to ensure abortions happen as rarely as possible - discouraging mothers from having them, reducing conditions that induce mothers to abort in the first place, etc.

But if one's focus is rather on trying to punish sin old-testament style, one's efforts would concentrate on illegalization and imposing criminal penalties. This punishes mothers and doctors, but helps children less, as abortions happen whether they're legal or not).

So we must ask ourselves - what are we really in it for?
---StrongAxe on 3/7/11


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Francis

You have got to be kidding me, you honestly desire to twist the scriptures to indicate that in the 5th chapter of numbers God was devising an abortion.

God was giving a way for an adulteress wife to be found out if their was no witness to prove it.

You know, be sure your sins will find you out. Num 32:23

This was a handing down of punishment to an unfaithful wife who couldn't be stoned for their was no witness to the act.

Her lot would be to become a curse to her people, not the death of an innocent child.
Numbers 5:27

Look it up, and please study to show thyself approved unto God, rightly dividing the Word of truth.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/6/11


I've pointed out that abortion always unsafe for the baby, but she cannot be aborted more than once.
---Cluny on 2/26/11

Take it up with GOD. he ordered it to be LEGAL

Numbers 5:11-31 Gods gives instruction on how to abort a pregnancy if "Numbers 5:13 a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, And the spirit of jealousy come upon him.."
---francis on 3/3/11


Assuming for a moment that abortions were to become illegal. Do you think this would stop them from being performed? What could each of us do to stop them then? In my opinion, this is where our focus should be since it's highly unlikely that they will be made illegal during this lifetime.

What can we do now to stop them from occurring whether legal or not?
---AlwaysOn on 2/26/11


francis, y ou said "safe, legal, and rare."

I've pointed out that abortion always unsafe for the baby, but she cannot be aborted more than once.

And abortion, alas, is legal.

Is two out of three good enough for you?
---Cluny on 2/26/11


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\\Abortions should be SAFE, LEGAL and RARE.\\

Abortion is NEVER safe for the unborn baby.

Fortunately, it will happen only ONCE in her all-too-short lifetime, so in this case, it would be rare.
---Cluny on 2/25/11


I keep hearing of the sufferings of the mother who was raped or molested.

This is a periodic suffering which with time and Grace will pass.

But what of the 92% of women who regret their abortion, especially on Christmas and the child's birthday.

doctors (lower case intended) for years have misinformed women to the psychological affects of abortion.

Lets face it if a woman can kill her own baby and not regret it, well.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 2/25/11


Most people today find it an abomination to burn children in the fires of an idol's alter. Saline abortion burns the baby to death before it is removed from the mother. These children are being offered on the alter of the idol of lust and self.
---Harold on 2/25/11


Abortions should be SAFE, LEGAL and RARE.

Ofcourse, the bible does give the man the right to demand an abortion if he suspects the CHILD is not his.

Numbers 5:29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled,
---francis on 2/24/11


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\\CLUNY on 2/17/11 One example from the Bible - where GOD stone anybody for anything.\\

RICHARDC, do you get the difference between God stoning people and God TELLING people to stone people?
---Cluny on 2/21/11


Yes abortion should be banned. Abortion is just as a society - throw away for unwanted. An easy answer to rid of dealing with the situation. To God it is a sin. It is true murder. Thou shall not kill is one of the ten commandments. When is a baby considered to be alive in the womb? When a live egg is fertilized by a live sperm. Then life begins. Another is who are we to decide who lives or dies. Only God has that right!
---michelle on 2/21/11


CraigA, I understand. You're addressing those who show no remorse...who only think of themselves and never give a second thought about what they are doing. We've reached a point of agreement, here. I'm also sorry about the loss of your first child. The compassion you had for your wife, despite your feelings, is admirable.

Carla, how does my statement carry contention? A girl shattered by rape discovers she's pregnant. She doesn't want to carry the rapist's child. Because I oppose calling her selfish for not wanting the child means that I can't call on the name of the Lord? I disagree. There are better ways to encourage her to keep the child than to guilt her into it by name-calling and adding to her shame. I'm cool if you disagree though.
---AlwaysOn on 2/21/11


CLUNY on 2/17/11 One example from the Bible - where GOD stone anybody for anything.

NUMBERS 15:32 And the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

NUMBERS 15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be put to death, all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp

NUMBER 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp,and stone him with stones,he died, as the LORD commanded Moses.
---RICHARDC on 2/20/11


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Abortions are already illegal under God's law along with promiscuity and divorce. Am I knocking on anyone's door?

Kathr and Donna always have thoughtful comments and it brings to light the hyprocrisy most men who would prosecute would also be first in line at Planned Parenthood if we became pregnant tomorrow morning.
That doesn't change the sin but it ought to make us pause. Its easy to demand of others something so elusive from ourselves.
---larry on 2/20/11


---Calling her selfish for considering abortion only compounds the emotional trauma---

IF that particular woman is indeed in trauma. Anyone who would justify their actions obviously didnt feel bad about what theyve done.

My first wife aborted our first child together. She was all for a woman's right to decide, etc etc.
When she came home that day from the clinic, she knew what she had done. There was no denying it any more. I couldnt find it in my heart to be angry because she was so upset.

Theres knowing youve done evil and being sorry for it and then theres doing evil and justifying it. Im speaking only about those who justify murder.
---Craiga on 2/20/11


Always on,
But your statement still carries contention when you say label you go against Gods judgement on those who murder,

You cannot do so and still call upon the name of the Lord...

That would be hypocritical. There is no one here saying we also do not feel, hear and understand what is being said is. It is categorically Wrong to kill in the name of emotions because the unborn did nothing wrong!!!.
Why stress the small stuff, to have the baby allow it to breast feed, naturally wean it off so that she does not get into trouble with the milk or even lose the right to love it,bottle if breast is impossible. It's not wrong It's love beyond a love that only Christ knows.
---Carla on 2/20/11


No, Cluny, you have not used the word selfish. If you refer to my original comment, I was responding to a post by CraigA, not you.

CraigA, I understand that, by definition, it is a selfish consideration. I get where you're coming from. I believe, however, we can use more wisdom and sensitivity in dealing with these issues. My personal opinion is that we may more effectively persuade a woman to not abort by offering loving support, encouragement, prayer and suggesting options. Calling her selfish for considering abortion only compounds the emotional trauma she has suffered. And, even if she decides to abort after our efforts, I prefer to offer her compassion and to love her...not label her.
---AlwaysOn on 2/19/11


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Sorry but if a person is willing to take another life just to maintain their happiness, that IS selfish!

Theres no sugar-coating it.
---CraigA on 2/19/11


\\I'm simply pointing out the insensitivity in labeling a young girl victimized by incest (or even a grown woman who's been raped by a stranger) as selfish for considering abortion. \\

And where have I done so?

\\Rape is a traumatic physical, emotional and mental experience. \\

I've never denied it. But rape is not improved by adding infanticide to it.

\\Ridiculing a traumatized woman/girl for not wanting to carry a child from rape isn't the way to convince her not to abort.\\

And I have not done so.
---Cluny on 2/19/11


If you believe that "Thou shalt do no murder" to be an absolute allowing for no exceptions, there is really nothing to discuss about abortion.

And may I remind you that the Virgin Mary herself was not much older than 13 at the time she conceived Jesus.
---Cluny on 2/19/11


Carla, you're missing my point. Yes, all things are possible with Him. That is not and will never be in dispute on my end. My statements are concerning labeling women/girls who consider abortion after rape as being selfish. You can minister to them all day long to encourage them to keep a rapist's child, but it's not very kind to say they are being selfish for not wanting a child after being traumatized by a rape.

Cluny, after my earlier reply to you, I coincidentally happened upon a current news story about a man whose wife couldn't get pregnant, so he began raping his mentally disabled 16 year old daughter in order to have a child by her.

Again, it happens and should be dealt with with love, concern and sensitivity for victims.
---AlwaysOn on 2/18/11


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life by mans law here in america says it begins at birth,Gods word says he knew you before you were in your mothers womb,john the bapist is said to have leaped for joy at the approach of mary to her cousin,why should they be illegal,? actually it is a sin that all who participate in will have to answer for at the judgement. so to answer by mans law its not illegal,but by Gods word its sin.
---tom2 on 2/18/11


I have had to go through situations of rape with children who were raped at 8. 14 and over although my friend who was raped by her father had the child but he was a disabled child. Now I speak as a child of God, not of the world.

If through the work I did helped to rehabilitate single handed one woman of those I mentioned I give God the glory because, it was through his grace that she now works independently for herself after years of depression.

If you know God like I do All things are possible through Christ,

Always on,

ALL THINGS!
---Carla on 2/18/11


Cluny, I know one, as well as several others impregnated by other relatives. I also know women who've been impregnated by stranger or date rape. When we discuss this, we can't ignore them because they seem invisible to society or because their numbers are low. Even if they are 1% of the whole, real lives are represented in that 1%. I'm not arguing for or against abortion being legal. I'm simply pointing out the insensitivity in labeling a young girl victimized by incest (or even a grown woman who's been raped by a stranger) as selfish for considering abortion. Rape is a traumatic physical, emotional and mental experience. Ridiculing a traumatized woman/girl for not wanting to carry a child from rape isn't the way to convince her not to abort.
---AlwaysOn on 2/18/11


\\No matter where anyone stands on abortion, a 13 year old incest victim doesn't deserve to be labeled selfish for not wanting to bear her father's child.\\

How many 13 year old girls do you know who have gotten pregnant as the result of their own father's raping them?

I myself don't know any.
---Cluny on 2/18/11


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Cluny, while fewer than 3% originate with rape, it still happens. No matter where anyone stands on abortion, a 13 year old incest victim doesn't deserve to be labeled selfish for not wanting to bear her father's child. Even if it's believed she should keep the child, I would hope that more sensitivity would be applied to an argument against abortion.

Carla, since you don't know me personally, it's impossible for you to know where I speak from.

Donna, I agree there are other options. Let's remember, though, that having the baby isn't the only trauma. Just carrying a child after rape can be immensely traumatic. A woman's mental and emotional state after being raped is not always strong, healthy, stable or rational.
---AlwaysOn on 2/17/11


There are more than just 2 options iF a child is conceived out of immorality.
Abortion need not happen, nor keeping a child when one is ill-prepared emotionally or financially! And if a child is conceived by rape, the mother needn't keep what would be a constant reminder of her violaton.

There are couples who are more than willing, and well prepared, to adopt a child as there own. To give up one's baby after 9 mo of carrying it, is often the most loving choice of all. Why is this choice so rarely presented?
---Donna66 on 2/17/11


Rom 8:28b ...all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
2Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad
Gen 50:20b ...ye thought evil against me, [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as...this day, to save much people alive
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
---micha9344 on 2/17/11


In case such as these I thoroughly believe one should speak for themselves. Always on you cannot speak for anyone but yourself, and sadly not even for your own child on grounds of morality because you judge according to your own emotional weaknesses.

I was raped and I kept the baby, not only was I violated but beaten up by the perpetrator, I kept that baby who is now my son and so I can speak.

If I had a daughter as much as it would pain me to have to give the child into adoption if distress was going to result in her keeping the baby, I would opt to keep it otherwise out of love for the baby and love for the one who I believe can get forgiveness and still go to heaven.

Now that is from a victim of rape.
---Carla on 2/17/11


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\\So, the sins of a father should be shouldered by a 13 year old impregnated by him via incest?\\

As I said, the unborn child should be executed for the crime of the father.

Contrary to the emotional arguments given here, fewer than 3% of abortions are performed for cases of rape or incese.
---Cluny on 2/17/11


"Was the child the woman is about to kill guilty of the sin of rape or incest? Why punish the unborn child for the sins of its mother or father?

Ive heard the "it would be a reminder of the rape to have that child" defense. Its absolutely horrible. That comes from a person who is only thinking of themselves and not the life growing within them." ~CraigA

So, the sins of a father should be shouldered by a 13 year old impregnated by him via incest? She's selfish if she doesn't want to birth his seed? Interesting when men, who have not been violated and who do not have a womb, offer such insight. To oppose abortion is understandable. To so harshly judge rape victims for considering it isn't.
---AlwaysOn on 2/17/11


\\I find it interesting that in the OT, if someone got pregnant out of wedlock, or adultry, incest etc, that GOD KILLED through stoning. So the unborn would be killed as well.\\

kathr, please give ONE example from the Bible, with BCV, where God stoned anybody for anything.
---Cluny on 2/17/11


Mary, I believe you have a right to your convictions. I would not apologize for them.

I personally believe in the case of rape or incest of a minor child, as young as 9 would be HORRIBLE to force one, who was already forced against her will, to then be forced to give birth, based on not only emotional issues but physical ones as well.
I do not apologize for my convictions.
---kathr4453 on 2/17/11


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By the way, just so anyone who questions my motives understands, I am not an abortion lover, just because I think there are a couple of very rare circumstances for it. I also agree with the person who said we should be helping girls avoid immorality, not condemning them afterwards.
---Mary on 2/16/11


Carla, sorry you mis-understood my post.

IF perhaps everyone OBEYED God and took those moral laws seriously, there would be no one to abort in the first place.

SO the ROOT of the problem is SIN, and immorality.
---kathr4453 on 2/16/11


Kathr,
When God..... NOT: when man, woman, child or abortion clinic...

Therefore it is fair to say kill everyone who committed adultery based on your misrepresentation's of that we now have Grace and also forgiveness!

Did you not know that the the one who sins shall surely die...

Then adultery, fornication, murder, stealing, etc. still carries that penalty its just that they don't know it....
---Carla on 2/16/11


I find it interesting that in the OT, if someone got pregnant out of wedlock, or adultry, incest etc, that GOD KILLED through stoning. So the unborn would be killed as well.

Or the father would be stoned if incest occured, and there would be an unwed mother????

Sexual immorality was not dealt with lightly.

God had reasons for setting boundries...
---kathr4453 on 2/15/11


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Besides the "thou shalt not murder" the root reason why so many girls abort their babies is selfishness - meaning that the baby would be a burdon to their social lifestyle.
---Steveng on 2/15/11


Based on the penalties involved, the Bible does not equate abortion with murder - accidental murder carried the death penalty while accidentally killing the unborn was punished with a fine.

That being said, I am not pro-abortion. I am against Christians working to pass laws to force non-believers to act in accordance with Christian mores as a substitute for evangelism. The Church needs to be there before a woman gets pregnant with an unwanted child with the Gospel, not working to pass laws to punish her for being a sinner.

Or, put another way, if we work to pass laws to make unbelievers act like Christians, how then will we present an example to the World.
---Terrell_Lewis on 2/15/11


I don't know. The law kills... the spirit. Every illegal thing becomes a new temptation. We need to be convicted by the Holy Spirit, not by the Law. How can we grow as people if every thing that may be unwholesome is taken away from us or forbidden by law? Salvation becomes obsolete, right? The law takes over the part that Jesus died for...what a tragic thing for Christians.
---Rita_Walczak on 2/15/11


That's a very good point David...I love that!!!
---Kristyn on 2/15/11


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\\Reminds me of story about the man who had Cancer.
He asked God, "Why haven't you sent someone with a cure for Cancer?
God told the man, "I did, but you aborted him".
---David on 2/15/11\\

There's a similar story about an AIDS patient and Mother Teresa.
---Cluny on 2/15/11


Whew! I knew I'd be flogged badly for my opinions lol
---Mary on 2/15/11


\\you have no clue the trauma of rape or incest. None whatsoever.\\
---Mary on 2/14/11

And you have no clue the trauma of being ripped limb from limb before you are born, either, Mary.
---Cluny on 2/15/11


Why should abortions be illegal?

God is the creator of Man, so it should be God, and not man, who decides on who shall live and who shall die.
Ask someone who has been born of a Rape or incest, I bet they are glad that their mothers left that decision up to God.

Reminds me of story about the man who had Cancer.
He asked God, "Why haven't you sent someone with a cure for Cancer?
God told the man, "I did, but you aborted him".
---David on 2/15/11


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\\you have no clue the trauma of rape or incest. None whatsoever.\\
---Mary on 2/14/11

Mary, you probably have no clue about the trauma of being so poor that we had to dumpster dive at the Farmer's Market when I was a kid, with schoolmates passing by making fun. Then telling everyone else at school. Or dumpster diving behind the grocery store for dented canned goods. Back then they ripped the labels off and threw them out. It was a little traumatic opening those cans to find something we hated, and still had to eat it because that's all there was.

I guess that should have been enough justification to kill somebody for his wallet

Two wrongs don't make a right
---James_L on 2/14/11


Carla, do you DENY the Bible says, "Do no murder?"

And even the OT YHVH (who took flesh and was known as Jesus) was not above a salty expression or two Himself.

Read these verses in the KJV

1 Kings 14:10

1 Kings 21:21

2 Kings 9:8

Isaiah 36:12
---Cluny on 2/14/11


Abortions should be illegal, because according to God and His Word, abortion is MURDER, and God will NEVER change His mind on this. (Exodus 20:13, Proverbs 6:17b - hands that shed innocent blood). If America does not want to be judged by God for this, we must repent and stop it.
---Leslie on 2/14/11


Because the Bible says, "Thou shalt not murder."

Anyone who kills unborn babies would eat doodoo with toasted coconut on it.
---Cluny on 2/14/11

Oh really and what kind of church do you attend?
Pls site bible verse and scripture

A bit of sweeping backyards to do to love!


That's why I never trust the advice behind contrary advice!!!

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---Carla on 2/14/11


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Perhaps in the case of rape or incest which might I add is tremendously wicked to happen to anyone, but pick sense from nonsense.


1. What did the baby do wrong?
2. would you like to be salt poisioned and then tore from limb to limb then washed out to make sure all your limb equated to what was a perfectly beautiful human being.

3. or sucked from your place of origin, and then subject the mother to terrible conditions faced by naturally miscarriage mums.

now make another INFORMED CHOICE to have the child (never killed anyone) out of common love,,,, although there are natural cases!!!!

your suggestion is one of murder of which you need to repent( and quickly!!!!)
---Carla on 2/14/11


\\Okay, here we go again: I believe abortion should be illegal--except in the case of rape or ESPECIALLY incest.
---Mary on 2/14/11\\

Quite right, Mary.

Execute the child for the crime of the father!

That will put the fear of God into the father, won't it?
---Cluny on 2/14/11


No CraigA, the child did nothing wrong, but you have no clue the trauma of rape or incest. None whatsoever.
---Mary on 2/14/11


In the case of rape, when was it reported, if only after the pregency is discover why wait so long, maybe to use abortion as birthcontrol. In the case of incest has the offending individual been arrested, if not, why?
these reasons shouldn't be allowed if only to make the death of the baby ease their mind.
---Harold on 2/14/11


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---except in the case of rape or ESPECIALLY incest.---

Why? Was the child the woman is about to kill guilty of the sin of rape or incest? Why punish the unborn child for the sins of its mother or father?

Ive heard the "it would be a reminder of the rape to have that child" defense. Its absolutely horrible. That comes from a person who is only thinking of themselves and not the life growing within them.

Lacking natural affection for their own children (Romans 1:31, 2 Tim 3:3)
---CraigA on 2/14/11


Because the Bible says, "Thou shalt not murder."

Anyone who kills unborn babies would eat doodoo with toasted coconut on it.
---Cluny on 2/14/11


Okay, here we go again: I believe abortion should be illegal--except in the case of rape or ESPECIALLY incest.
---Mary on 2/14/11


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