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What Is The Everlasting Gospel

What is the Everlasting Gospel?

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What is the Everlasting Gospel?
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Isaiah 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Psalm 28:9
Save thy people, bless thine inheritance: feed them also, lift them up for ever.
Psalm 111:9
He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.
Psalm 148:6
He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which SHALL NOT PASS.
---Trav on 2/28/11
---Trav on 3/2/11


Warwick, the gospel is "the good news." The good news is addressed to lost mankind and centers in God's grace, which rescues and restores man to God's image and fellowship. For that reason the gospel was first announced when God promised Adam and Eve that the "Seed of the woman" would crush the serpents head (Gen. 3:15). It was symbolized year after year in the blood of animals that were offered in the Mosaic sacrificial system (Heb. 9:11-14, 19, 21). When Christ, the true Sacrifice, was offered, the gospel in symbol became the gospel in reality (Heb. 9:11-15, 10:10-14). Sins which had previously been passed over were now instantly remitted for all those who believed, whether before or after the Cross, Romans 3:25,26.
---Mark_V. on 3/1/11


Do a keyword search for "gospel" using an online KJB bible. The gospel of.., Christ, peace, kingdom of God, Christ, God, circumcision, your salvation, peace, etc. all mean the good news taught about as the object of the prepostion (remember grammar rules?)

And don't forget that the gospel was preached to Abraham.
---Steveng on 3/1/11


Mark 'gospel' means 'good news' or 'proclaiming good news.' God's 'good news' is not limited only to the Gospel of salvation.

There is only one gospel of salvation, as Paul says, but 'gospel' has far wider meaning. For example Paul uses 'gospel' 28 times without qualification, 'the gospel of Christ' 9 times, 'the Gospel of God' 6 times. Also 'the gospel of peace,' 'the gospel of our salvation' etc.

Then we have a different use of 'gospel' in Revelation 14:6,7. The angel proves this by saying what the everlasting gospel (as distinct from the gospel of salvation) is. If the angel was attempting to say the everlasting gospel was the good news of our salvation, by Christ by faith and not by works then he did a very very poor job.
---Warwick on 2/28/11


Mark as far as I know ....
Do you know of anywhere the gospel of salvation is called eternal or everlasting?
---Warwick on 2/27/11

He doesn't. And a preacher doesn't.
Nor would he acknowledge it if he did.

Isaiah 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Psalm 28:9
Save thy people, bless thine inheritance: feed them also, lift them up for ever.
Psalm 111:9
He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.
Psalm 148:6
He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which SHALL NOT PASS.
---Trav on 2/28/11




Warwick, thanks for your answers. I'm with Paul when he said, Gal. 1:6-9.

"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-which really no gospel at all ...etc"

Just like with the subject of Jesus, all through Scripture He goes by many different titles, but He is only One Lord. The same is with the gospel, many different descriptive titles, but only one gospel of Christ.
Concerning eternal gospel, its only found in Rev. 14. The gospel of peace Eph. 6:15. The gospel of Christ, 1 Cor. 9:12. The gospel of the grace of God, Acts 20:24. This gospel of the Kingdom, Matt.24:14.
---Mark_V. on 2/28/11


Mark as far as I know the only time the eternal or everlasting gospel is referred to in Scripture is in Revelation 14:6,7 and this is definitely not the gospel of salvation is it?

Do you know of anywhere the gospel of salvation is called eternal or everlasting?
---Warwick on 2/27/11


Warwick, there is only one Gospel. Period. Not two or three. They have different descriptive titles but they are all the same Gospel. There is not one gospel for a time, and then another gospel. As Steven said, the Gospel is of the coming kingdom with Christ.
Revelation 14:6. This is talking about an angel flying in heaven having the everlasting Gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth-to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people, concerning the everlasting life and entrance into the kingdom of God. Now look at Matthew 24:14, "And this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations and then the end will come"
---Mark_V. on 2/26/11


Warwick 2: continue,
What I believe you are doing is believing what is in Rev. 14 is a future scene after the Judgment. This events already happened in the past. Rev. is a view of the past, present and future events. The angels to the churches is past. Even the mother of Harlots is in the past. The Great White Throne of Judgment is found in Rev. 20:11.
---Mark_V. on 2/26/11


What did Jesus and the apostles preach?

The gospel, or the good news, is that of the coming Kingdom of God. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. Of course they also preach about how to get there. And they performed miracles to prove what they were saying was, and still is, true. They preached about the prophesies concerning Jesus and some people, like the Bereans, search the scripture to see if what Paul said was true.

The good news is the coming of the Kingdom of God.
---Steveng on 2/25/11




Mark you miss the point. The question concerns "the everlasting gospel," correct? Therefore it cannot be the gospel of salvation which ceases at judgement. Then we have the angel proclaiming the coming everlasting gospel, which is different from the gospel of salvation. One was for a time, and the other reaches into eternity.

It is what the saved are commanded to do for eternity. If this is not so then what was the angel on about?

---Warwick on 2/26/11


Warwick, I'm sorry you disagree, because all of God's word speaks of the Good News from the beginning. Salvation is by Grace through faith. Concerning Mose in the O.Testament, in Heb. 4:1,2
"Therefore, since the promise of entering His (Christ) rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. For we also have had the gospel preached to us, "just like they did" But the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith"
Also, Galatians 3:8,9 we find that Paul says in Gal., "The Scriptures foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham"
---Mark_V. on 2/25/11


Mark I do not agree that the whole of Scripture is good news. In fact the events of Genesis 3 is the bad news whereas the good news is that Jesus came to overturn the bad. But the gospel of salvation finishes at the judgement as you agree. Therefore in Revelation the angel points forward to the judgement and tells us what the eternal gospel is.

If the eternal or everlasting gospel is the gospel of salvation why does he speak the way he did?

I am in no way wishing to diminish the gospel of salvation but it will finish at the judgement.
---Warwick on 2/25/11


Warwick, I welcome your questions. There is no salvation after the Day of the Lord when judgment comes. That is for sure. But when we answer a question or make a comment, we have to do it conforming to all of Scripture, or else we make one passage true, and another we contradict. The Gospel of Christ is God's Word, and God's word never passes away. Matthew 24:35
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My Words will by no means pass away" His Word is the whole of Scripture. The Gospel is the whole of Scripture since from the beginning we know why people need salvation.
---Mark_V. on 2/25/11


Mark you are correct in saying that there is only one gospel of Jesus Chist. However Jesus good news, the offer of salvation by grace and faith, finishes at judgement doesn't it? It is too late when judgement has occurred isn't it?

You do not believe God's offer of salvation will continue after judgement do you?

Therefore as Revelation 14:6,7 says the everlasting gospel is to fear God and give Him glory, to worship Him who made everything. That is what the faithful are to do for eternity.
---Warwick on 2/24/11


Mark_V.: "Steven G, ... I already know you go to the computer to find out information. I go to the Scriptures."

Mark, so do I, but I use the computer to do word searches in the KJV bible relating to most topics. I don't use any other christian reference sources. It's so handy to use the computer to search the scriptures.


Mark_V.: "Eternal mean it will last forever. Very simple."

Not so simple to christians who believe that the jews don't matter anymore. God does not break promises. When a person searches for the word "forever" (or "for ever" as Trav pointed out) then one can plainly see that Israel and its people are still God's chosen people and God's chosen land.
---Steveng on 2/24/11


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Steven G, my blood doesn't boil with anything you say. I already know you go to the computer to find out information. I go to the Scriptures. There is only one gospel of Jesus Christ, it is an everlasting gospel because it brings eternal life. Eternal mean it will last forever. Very simple.
---Mark_V. on 2/24/11


do an online KJV bible search for the word "everlast" and find out both who and what is everlasting.
---Steveng on 2/23/11

For ever, (two words) is another unfolding search.
Genesis 13:15
...I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
Exodus 12:24
And ye shall observe this ...for ever.
Psalm 105:8
He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word he commanded to a thousand generations.
Psalm 111:9
He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.
Psalm 136:22
Even an heritage unto Israel his servant: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Proverbs 29:9
If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.
---Trav on 2/24/11


Boy, Mark V.'s blood is going to boil when I write this, but...

do an online KJV bible search for the word "everlast" and find out both who and what is everlasting.
---Steveng on 2/23/11


Trav,
1. I am mindful of the words spoken by the prophets,...

2. You want the prophets to be your witness,...

3. You are worried about Israel,....

4. I am not worried about them,...---Mark_V. 2/23/11

1. Mindful? Yes. Mindful ,to carefully avoid. You should.
2. Prophets are GOD's, Christ's confirming witnesses, Apostles witness. Witnesses Of Israel, to Israel,for Israel.
3. Well, no worries here...rather lookin for ...as Christ: Matthew 10:6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
4. Needless admission, you replaced them so why worry about em?: Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,

(You provide wonderful opportunitys to do so, thankyou)
---Trav on 2/23/11


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Using the word "Everlasting". And understanding that "GOSPEL", means TRUTH / GOOD NEWS OF REDEMPTION.
What is found Everlasting good news,truth in Scripture? For starters, sheep seeking truth....

Genesis 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Ezekiel 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.

Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
---Trav on 2/23/11


The point is Mona originally asked "What is the everlasting gospel?", not "What is the gospel?"

Enter the question into a search engine and up pops Revelation 14:6,7 "Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth to every nation, tribe, language and people. He said...Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water."

God here speaks of the future when Jesus stands in judgement, when the time of the NT gospel, the good news, has come to an end. The angel commands we worship our Creator God, for eternity.
---Warwick on 2/23/11


aka: Nope, the Mods are not SDA. They even e-mailed me to stop asking questions about the Ten Commandments.
---jerry6593 on 2/23/11


Trav, I am mindful of the words spoken by the prophets, what makes you think I am not? The fact is that all Scripture is 'God breath" and it is all Truth. All I have to do is to believe what God has revealed to us through Scripture. You want the prophets to be your witness, I want the whole of Scripture to be mine. You want to stay with the Old T. I want to understand all of Scripture. You are worried about Israel, I am not worried about them, God deals with everyone as individuals. You are either of the "spiritual Israel of God" (Gal. 6:16), or you are of "Israel of the flesh" (1 Cor. 10:18)
---Mark_V. on 2/23/11


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\\I am more concerned that your false statements about SDAs are allowed to stand while my responses continue to be blocked. You must have a Mod on your side.
---jerry6593 on 2/20/11\\

All my statements about SDA doctrine have been taken from SDA literature that I have read with my own eyes.
---Cluny on 2/23/11


Trav,

Let me say I don't need a prophet to verify and witness what I wrote down,....
---Mark_V. on 2/21/11

Exactly. You've declared it more than once. By omission, make the point well.

2 Peter 3:2
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
---Trav on 2/22/11


The Gospel is God reconciling the world to HIMSELF through Christ, not counting mens sins against them.
Christ is the long awaited hope of many,so as to be freed from sin so we can obtain life through faith in HIM.
---duane on 2/22/11


Donna66: "Steveng-- The only thing I could possibly understand about "nope" is that you don't agree with me about about the Gospel. (And I already knew that)."

It's not I that don't agree with you, it is you that don't agree with scripture. If Jesus were on these blogs you will find that most people will disagree with him or maybe some of the things he would post. Have you met anyone on these blogs that you agree with one hundred percent of the time? Of course not. You just pick and chose what you want to believe and what you want to discard as false. Most christians are like that. They depend on their feelings instead of the truth.
---Steveng on 2/22/11


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//You must have a Mod on your side.//

jerry, it is ironic. even though most of my blog responses go through (thank god some of them do not). a very small percentage small percentage of my questions make it through. so, mlostly we are faced with answering the same questions in a different phrasing from sabbatarians.

i was beginning to think that the mods were sda.
---aka on 2/21/11


Steveng-- The only thing I could possibly understand about "nope" is that you don't agree with me about about the Gospel. (And I already knew that).
---Donna66 on 2/21/11


---If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted---

Every denomination goes to this verse and uses it against their enemies.
---CraigA on 2/21/11


The Everlasting Gosepl is the gospel of the Kingdom. Rev 14:6. This is the same gospel that Jesus preached in Matt 4:23. Also see Matt 24:15. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then the end shall come.

So what is the gospel of the Kingdom? It is the teachings of Jesus Christ and Him alone. John 8:31-32. IF you continue in my word then you are my disciples indeed, and you shall KNOW the truth and the truth will make you free.
---barb on 2/21/11


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Trav, is that the only way you can respond? Asking for prophets when you said:

"Appropriate scripture. Amazing isn't it the "Gospel" that is taught for truth.... without any of GOD's Old Testament prophets used to verify and witness."

Let me say I don't need a prophet to verify and witness what I wrote down, I have God as my witness, He is the Author of Scripture. How is that for a witness? There is only one gospel Truth. It has not change unless you want to change it yourself.
---Mark_V. on 2/21/11


.... If anybody is preaching to you a gospel othern than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned"
---Mark_V. on 2/21/11

Appropriate scripture. Amazing isn't it the "Gospel" that is taught for truth.... without any of GOD's Old Testament prophets used to verify and witness.

More especially considering the consequences of the scripture above. But, then many, are willing to base everything on modern man's commentary. I guess they assuming...being modern they are smarter than a Prophet. Hmmm.
2 Peter 3:2
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
---Trav on 2/21/11


There are various titles mentioned descriptively of the same gospel. Paul says in Gal. 1:6-9 tells us,
"I'm astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel othern than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned"
---Mark_V. on 2/21/11


Cluny: "Iit must be of great concern to you, because otherwise you would never have said what you did!"

You must have missed it, so here it is again:

I am more concerned that your false statements about SDAs are allowed to stand while my responses continue to be blocked. You must have a Mod on your side.
---jerry6593 on 2/20/11


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1 PETER 1:25 But the word of the LORD endureth for ever,And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

MATTHEW 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

( The laws of God will be in Heaven - eternity.)
---RICHARDC on 2/20/11


Donna66: "Steveng --- You were the one complaining that people make the "gospel" too complicated. I guess I made it sound too simple for you."

What part of "Nope" didn't you understand concerning your post? Your gospel is not the same as the gospel that Jesus and the apostles preached.
---Steveng on 2/20/11


Jerry ... I,m not upset at all, and taking it all very easy.

I was laughing with you, because I really had not understand yuor use of the word to start with, and that is rather funny!

But you thought I was upset ..and this maybe reinforced the point I made in my letter ... how easy it is to misundertand what someone else is saying when you are just looking at their written word, and can't hear the chuckle in their voice or see the smile on their face.

You thought I was upset, when I was genuinely laughing with you!
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/19/11


Steveng --- You were the one complaining that people make the "gospel" too complicated. I guess I made it sound too simple for you.
---Donna66 on 2/19/11


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Alan, so Scripture says the angel has "The eternal gospel to proclaim", and immediately following this the angel makes a proclamation and it is not about the eternal gospel. Too ridiculous!
---Warwick on 2/19/11


Alan: Take it easy! the expression "my bad" is a a slang term for "my mistake" used by the younger crowd in America. I picked it up from my children. It is dreadful grammar, and I apologize for using it on you. "My mistake".
---jerry6593 on 2/19/11


\\Cluny: OK, my bad. Perhaps it would be clearer as:

Mima: "Jerry, the Ortho group teach ....."\\

jerry, whenever I cut and paste someone someone said, I usually put \\ or similar marks around my cut and paste

\\But again, that is not my great concern.\\

Iit must be of great concern to you, because otherwise you would never have said what you did!
---Cluny on 2/19/11


Samuel, that's not even close to what James is saying. If James is speaking of "saving faith" as it is called, then he and Paul are at odds to be sure.

Paul said a man is justified "apart from works".

That means irrespective of works, without works, faith by itself.

That is not anywhere near the "jusified" that James was referring to.

Faith without works is the only way to be born again.

Faith with works is the only way to rewards for those who already have been born again. That's what James is saying.

Most want to section out James 2:14-26 as if it stands by itself. But it's in the context of the Judgment Seat of Christ (cf 2:12, 3:1).
---James_L on 2/18/11


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Jerry ... You hahaha as if sharing a joke with me! But it was no joke, although I see it now.

I really did think you were addressing me and saying something like "my lad" or "old buddy"

So I now join you in laughter "ha ha ha!"

Just shows how easy it is with our differing styles of writing to get the wrong impression of someone else, when you can't see the expression on their face, or hear the nuances of their voice.

Do you think this may be one reason why some here get so angry with others, and that what seem like misrepresentations may actually come from misunderstanding?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/18/11


Salvation is by Faith alone through grace alone.

James is not contridicting this. He is just pointing out the same points that John in First John and JESUS as well as Paul point out. When we are saved we Love GOD with all our heart and others as our selves. If you do not love others and do not love GOD then you are not saved.

So like a past preacher said Faith alone saves. But faith never stays alone.
---Samuel on 2/18/11


Hahahah, Alan, it means the same as "That was my mistake"

my bad, my mistake, my fault
---CraigA on 2/18/11


Jerry ... You called me "my bad" and now you say that to Cluny.

What does it mean? I've never come across the term before!
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/18/11


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Today's christians rarely preach it like it's suppose to be preached.---Steveng on 2/15/11

You've noted that missing witness syndrome then. Preachy puffy types make tidbits their truth avoiding/supplanting scripture witnessing scripture that builds "truth" faith. Operating by logic. Sheep clothing....but, something is wrong with the fur, sir...and those teeth....hmmm.
Isaiah 61:1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek, he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to captives, the opening of the prison to them that are bound,
6But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ...
---Trav on 2/18/11


Jerry ... You called me "my bad" and now you say that to Cluny.

What does it mean? I've never come across the term before!
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/18/11


Cluny: OK, my bad. Perhaps it would be clearer as:

Mima: "Jerry, the Ortho group teach ....."

But again, that is not my great concern.
---jerry6593 on 2/18/11


**\\Jerry, the Ortho group teach that salvation does not come by faith alone\\**

jerry, these words are directly cut and pasted from a quote by mima. I did NOT attribute them to you.

For one thing, following your example, I spell your screen names with lower case letters, as you do on here.
---Cluny on 2/17/11


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Warwick ... There is nothing to say that the passage was quoting the gospel.

As to your first words, I misread your meaning no more than you misread mine.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/17/11


Cluny: You erroneously attributed a comment by Mima to me. But, mistakes happen. I am more concerned that your false statements about SDAs are allowed to stand while my responses continue to be blocked. You must have a Mod on your side.
---jerry6593 on 2/17/11


\\Cluny where does Scripture say that salvation is not by faith alone? \\

James, for one place. I've already, quoted it.

mima--If you believe that all you need to be saved is say the totally unbiblical "sinner's prayer", then you believe in salvation by works.
---Cluny on 2/16/11


Donna66: "Believe on Jesus, seek and accept His forgiveness.
Isn't this the Gospel?"

Nope.
---Steveng on 2/16/11


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Alan, I have never said those who reject 6 day creation cannot be saved. Below I wrote "Why is it good news that a Christian can reject the truth of parts of God's word? I accept that you are a Christian, having said so before. Tell the truth!

As regards the question you have missed the point, because it asks "What is the everlasting gospel?" Revelation 14:6,7 says the angel had the eternal (everlasting in some translations) gospel to proclaim. What was his proclamation? "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgemen has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water."

If this was not the angels proclamation then he must have said nothing.
---Warwick on 2/16/11


Cluny where does Scripture say that salvation is not by faith alone?

I ask this because Ephesians 2:8,9 clearly says salvation is by faith,(itself a gift) by grace, which is the unmerited favour of God. God's word says "not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, and "not by works works, so that no one can boast."

God here tells us that salvation is a gift. If we have to work for a gift it is not a gift but our wages.

How can God be clearer than "not by works"?
---Warwick on 2/16/11


1Cr 15:1,2,3,4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

This is the basis of the Gospel. To this is added how it results in our worship. Many make salvation by works added or no work in love from others.

The Scripture teaches Love works, Grace saves. Works ( sacrements) do not save.
---Samuel on 2/16/11


\\Jerry, the Ortho group teach that salvation does not come by faith alone\\

And why do you condemn the Orthodox Church for saying something the Bible itself does not say?

NOWHERE does the Bible say that salvation comes by faith alone.

Even St. James says, "You see that man is justified by word and NOT by faith alone."
---Cluny on 2/16/11


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Steveng -- Do you really believe that one can get to Heaven by applying the "ultimate commandment", LOVE. A lot of people sincerely try to do this in the light of Scripture, but find they cannot. They cannot because they are trying to do it by simple human effort. But the Spirit of God within a man can love as Jesus requires.

The GOSPEL has to do with JESUS, who is God in human flesh, and what He has done for us as sinners.
Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace,

Believe on Jesus, seek and accept His forgiveness.
Isn't this the Gospel?
---Donna66 on 2/16/11


Warwick
Revelation 14 6 & 7 does not say what the Everlasting Gospel is. Read the structure of the verses carefully.

And the Good New is that whatwever our sins are, Jesus will blot thm out.

Even mine of not understanding how God made the world.

Even yours of saying that someone who does not understand the 144 hour creation story can't be saved
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/16/11


.... can reject the truth of parts of God's word? Just the opposite, because those who believe as you do, do so in direct rejection of His word.---Warwick on 2/15/11

From a rejecter himself,ha. Speaking of rejection and substitution Alan, we/I always reject one who does not provide scriptural witnesses....substituting flowery opinion for a definition of "Gospel".

Gal 1:10-12
10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
---Trav on 2/16/11


Why do christians make christianity so complex? I suppose the overeducated people in this overeducated world is to blame.

Gospel simply means the good news about the soon to come Kingdom of God. Jesus preached it. The apostles preached it. They also preached about how to get there by applying the ultimate commandment - LOVE (the verb form).

Today's christians rarely preach it like it's suppose to be preached.
---Steveng on 2/15/11


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Alan the question is: What is the everlasting Gospel?

Revelation says that the eternal (or everlasting ) gospel is to fear God and "....worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water." That is to worship the Creator! I know of no other Scripture which says the everlasting gospel is something different than this? Do you?

Why is it good news that a Christian can reject the truth of parts of God's word? Does God anywhere say this is good news? You know He does not. Just the opposite, because those who believe as you do, do so in direct rejection of His word.
---Warwick on 2/15/11


Warwick ... "the eternal gospel is to worship the creator"

That's ungrammatical! That's a command, not a Gospel, which I think means Good News?

The eternal Good News is that Christ died for our sins.

And those who have Faith in that Gospel will receive the reward.

Even those Christians who trust in Jesus' work on the Cross, but are not convinced by 144 hour Creation account are saved.

THAT too is good news.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/15/11


Rev. 14:6,7 speaks of an angel having the Everlasting Gospel to preach. It may refer to those who get to eat from the tree of life or from the hidden manna after the judgement of the 7 churches in Revelation
---mona on 2/15/11


Jerry, the Ortho group teach that salvation does not come by faith alone but rather by keeping certain rules and regulations. These are called sacraments and traditions. And while I believe Cluny is saved I have no idea how he got saved but certainly not by what the Ortho group teach.
---mima on 2/15/11


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\\Does your Ortho group teach that the gospel involves salvation by bashing other denominations? \\

No, but your SDA group does.

After all YOU are the ones who teach that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast, and the USA is the false prophet with its nasty old Sunday blue laws.
---Cluny on 2/15/11


it is also called "the good news" "the gospel" Jesus was sent by his father to remind people of his fathers word about the kingdom of God.
---candice on 2/15/11


First Corinthians 15:1-5 " Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand,

2-By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3-For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,

4-And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5-And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve
---mima on 2/15/11


The everlasting gospel is spelled out in Revelation 14:6,7 'Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. And he said with a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water."'

Interestingly for those Christians who downgrage the importance of Genesis creation, the eternal gospel is to worship the creator. I believe that is because the unique thing about our God is that He alone is Creator. This is not true for any other 'god.'
---Warwick on 2/15/11


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Cluny: "sub-Christian cultists"

Boy, you really have some anti-Christian issues, don't you. Does your Ortho group teach that the gospel involves salvation by bashing other denominations? How small of you.
---jerry6593 on 2/15/11


"What is the Everlasting Gospel?"
The Gospel of the Kingdom of God under the Lordship of the Christ, both internally and externally eternally.
---joseph on 2/15/11


Same as it's ever been.

But sub-Christian cultists such as the Mormonoids and SDA have made it a buzzword for themselves.
---Cluny on 2/14/11


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