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How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ? What are you doing to prepare to be His Bride without spot or wrinkle as it says in Ephesians.

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Trav,
You just don't believe.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13

Your testimony has no foundation. You seeking knowledge listen not to those who could give it. The prophets. The apostles and Lord fulfilling prophecy. It is not what you want to hear. So you can't hear or see. You climb another way.

Mat_19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Jas_1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
---Trav on 9/1/13


Trav,
You want salvation only for Jews, but the Word of God speaks against you.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13

You happen not to be the word of GOD. Thanks to GOD.

I've never looked for Judah on any post. I look for what Christ looked for. Lost Sheep of Israel. The Northern House separated from Judah Benjamin.
Eze_34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong, I will feed them with judgment.

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 9/1/13


It is time you leave that israel only can be saved denomination for a WHOSOEVER WILL denomination
---francis on 9/1/13

You lust, for a convert to your one world governing church concepts. Ha.

I'll never leave the prophets confirming my Lord..... for a "Stranger" in a sheep & goat costume.

Joh_10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 9/1/13


"Don't you realize there was no salvation under the covenant made with Israel? ... Those who were saved were saved by grace through faith"--MarkV

(Galatians 3:23)
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

I dont know where you get this stuff sometimes...
---LindaH on 9/1/13


Trav, You say that Scripture offends me. What I feel is wrong is your interpretation of the Old Testament passages. Don't you realize there was no salvation under the covenant made with Israel? They were suppose to obey and everyone failed. Those who were saved were saved by grace through faith. None of those of the flesh of Abraham were saved. I gave you the passages where Jesus Himself told those who claimed they were descendants of Abraham, were actually children of the devil. Jesus said to them,
"Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word." You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do." (John 8:43,44). You just don't believe.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13




Trav, all disciples were Jewish. The Holy Spirit fell only on Jews at Pentecost. It was 3,000 Jews who were then baptized (Acts 2:5: 22,36,41,46). The early church in Jerusalem was Jewish. As the early church expanded into the Roman world, the question was asked. What about the Gentiles? Then unexpectedly God's Spirit fell on non-Jews (Acts 10:44,45) Slowly, narrowness and prejudice broke down when the issue of the Gentiles was brought up at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15) Then the Spirit of the Lord broke through the fog and revealed what had been accomplished by the Messiah. The wall had come down (Eph. 2:11-16) Jews and Gentiles became one.
Your prejudice remains. You want salvation only for Jews, but the Word of God speaks against you.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13


Trav on 8/31/13
John 3:16 For God so loved THE WORLD ( NOT ONLY ISRAEL), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the WHOLE WORLD ( NOT JUST THE NORTHERN TEN TRIBES, JUDAH AND BENJAMINE)

When i was a teenager, I was a religious church member, I had to leave my 8 commandment keeping denomination for one that kept all 10.
It is time you leave that israel only can be saved denomination for a WHOSOEVER WILL denomination
---francis on 9/1/13


---Trav on 8/31/13
2 Chr 6:32 concerning the stranger, which is NOT OF THY PEOPLE ISRAEL, but is come from a far country (THE ETHIOPIAN TREASURER)for thy great name's sake, and thy mighty hand, and thy stretched out arm, if they come and pray in this house,
Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for, that all people of the earth may know thy name, and fear thee, as doth thy people Israel, and may know that this house which I have built is called by thy name.

Isaiah 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people:


Your theology is male cow scat
---francis on 9/1/13


There are christians and then there are chirstians that are chosen by God to do His will. Once a christian proves He has God's best interest at heart, God will chose him or her to become an apostle, a prophet, an evangelist, a pastors, or a teacher according to your faith. Which position in the true church of God do you want to strive for?
---Steveng on 8/31/13


List of people NOT of Israel who will be saved
1: Abraham
2: Sarah
3: Noah
4: Adam
5: Lot
6: Job
7: Melchizedek
8: Methuselah
9: Eve
---francis on 8/30/13

The lineage of Israel. You might learn something hanging around the old folks testament/witness. Nah. Probably not.

Seen the sun and moon lately?

Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar, The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
---Trav on 8/31/13




You look for witnesses / precepts against instead of for."
---Mark_V. on 8/31/13

I look for what the Lord looked for. Amazingly.... No one else does, but one other here.
You try to talk a good game but, the prophets shoot your high flying game down.

GOD can do what he wants to with whoever including me. My pointing is to the prophets pointing and to Christ's.
Scripture offends you and several here mucho grande. When scripture offends it is a tell/sign. I'm not gonna be on your trip period. Climb any way you want. If your discouraged...then scripture does it.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 8/31/13


The Lord Jesus Christ and apostle John made many references to the marriage of Christ and His people. And not once in any of those teachings are we taught that you can choose to be the bride of Christ. Rather we are told explicitly,

"Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you... I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine, and I am glorified in them."

Bottomline, the Father is the one who has chosen the bride for His Son, yes, from eternity. It's a covenant made by the Father, Son and Holy Spirit before this world was even created.
---christan on 8/31/13


MALE COW SCAT
Romans 2:14 For when the Nations/Ethnos (Israel Divorced), which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness....
---francis on 8/30/13

Thanks for gleaning the pasture fertilizer boy/girl.

Only Israel had the law written in their hearts as per the New Covenant.
Heb_8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
---Trav on 8/31/13


How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ?
---Donna5535 on 3/5/11
1: yielding to the Holy Spirit to confess and repent from sin
2: accepting righteousness by Faith
3: Continuing steadfast in the faith
---francis on 8/31/13


Trav, you say about us,
"Trav, the Pharisees and Sadducess claimed that Abraham was their father...
---Mark_V. on 8/30/13
A common thread runs here with some. You look for witnesses / precepts against instead of for."

You are very wrong. Don't you understand that people are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ?
How hard is that to understand? No one in the flesh will enter heaven, no matter who they are, Jews, Russians, Mexicans, or whatever. Israel of the flesh included. Believe the words of Jesus. He plainly stated if you do not love Him, God is not your Father. Those in the flesh have a different father, the devil, and his desires they want to do. Matters not, who you are or where you come from.
---Mark_V. on 8/31/13


Donna5535: "What are you doing to prepare to be His Bride without spot or wrinkle as it says in Ephesians."

To LOVE, period.

Whiale most christian know the meaning of love, they do not know HOW to practice it. Do an onine bible search for the words "one another", "each other", "encourag", and "comfort" to know what living a christian life is all about.
---Steveng on 8/30/13


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Only Israel had the Law. Only Israel is found "redeemed".
---Trav on 8/29/13

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation, but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Israel was not the only ones under the curse of the law
---francis on 8/30/13


Only Israel had the Law. Only Israel is found "redeemed".
---Trav on 8/29/13
MALE COW SCAT
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,

List of people NOT of Israel who will be saved
1: Abraham
2: Sarah
3: Noah
4: Adam
5: Lot
6: Job
7: Melchizedek
8: Methuselah
9: Eve
10: francis
anyone else NOT from israel want to add their name?
5:
---francis on 8/30/13


"Yes. Redeemed by GOD who will not break his own laws of marriage." Trav

O you poor deluded soul. Did you not bother to read Romans 9:6-8, "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

Your argument goes against the grain of Paul's teachings, period.
---christan on 8/30/13


Trav, the Pharisees and Sadducess claimed that Abraham was their father...
---Mark_V. on 8/30/13

A common thread runs here with some. You look for witnesses / precepts against instead of for.
Not understanding you posted above. Esau was of Abrahams as was Ishmael. GOD makes it plain through thousands of precept upon precept witnesses who is redeemed carries his government.

Hag_2:3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?
Hag 2:9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.
---Trav on 8/30/13


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Trav, the Pharisees and Sadducess claimed that Abraham was their father yet John the Baptist exposed their delusion
"Don't think that, he thundered, then John laid the axe to the root of the tree by saying that if they didn't bear good fruit through faith in God like Abraham did, they would be "cut down and thrown into the fire"
Clearly natural lineage alone is not enough. Without faith and a spiritual connection with the Almighty, those Jews were doomed. Even Jesus said the same thing concering the Jews that tried to kill Him, they too said Abraham was their father, And Jesus told them "If God were you Father you would love Me" Then told them they were of their father the devil. (John 8:37-47).
---Mark_V. on 8/30/13


"redeemed"? by the law? But it's explicitly been written:
---christan on 8/29/13

Yes. Redeemed by GOD who will not break his own laws of marriage.

Rom_7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth, but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

Redeemed: New Covenant in which the Law is now found written in the House of Israels heart. Note that it does not say here....."and" Judah. Heb 8:10 / Jer 31:33.
Gal_3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:

Psa_77:15 Thou hast with thine arm redeemed thy people, the sons of Jacob and Joseph. Selah.
---Trav on 8/30/13


"Only Israel had the Law. Only Israel is found "redeemed"." Trav

"redeemed"? by the law? But it's explicitly been written:

"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Romans 3:20, "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law... that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." Galatians 2:16

"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners..." 1 Timothy 1:9
---christan on 8/29/13


We become the true Bride by coming to JESUS accepting as our LORD and Savior. We are Born again by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. Which enables to follow JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/29/13


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1.Israel Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband, the LORD of hosts is his name, and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel,

2.The Body of Christ 2 Corinthians 11:2 I have espoused you to one husband, .. to Christ.

3.New Jerusalem, the city Revelation 21:9 Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. ...and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem,


4.The term the "bride" is a figure of speech that is used to describe a relationship
Which one is true?
Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God, for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, .. as a bride adorneth [herself] with her jewels.
---francis on 8/29/13


There are at least four point of views concerning "Who is the Bride of Christ?":
1.Israel
2.The Body of Christ
3.New Jerusalem, the city
4.The term the "bride" is a figure of speech that is used to describe a relationship
Which one is true?
---michael_e on 8/29/13

all four
---francis on 8/29/13


---Trav on 8/29/13
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on THOSE WHO ARE NOT RELATED TO BRAHAM BY BLOOD ( Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
---francis on 8/29/13


There are at least four point of views concerning "Who is the Bride of Christ?":
1.Israel
2.The Body of Christ
3.New Jerusalem, the city
4.The term the "bride" is a figure of speech that is used to describe a relationship
Which one is true?
---michael_e on 8/29/13


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I believe the prophets, and you believe some male cow scat artist!!
---francis on 8/29/13

You believe rc francis.

Your right I am the "Bull" from ur viewpoint. All you've dwelt on so far is my tail. Come up front where the grass is.

I believe in promises made "for ever" to Israel 392 times.

2Sa_7:24 For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever:thou, LORD, art become their God.

1Ch_29:18 O LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, prepare their heart unto thee:

Luk_1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, to his seed for ever.
---Trav on 8/29/13


---Trav on 8/29/13
I believe the prophets, and you believe some male cow scat artist!!

Isaiah 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isaiah 56:5 ... I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

Isaiah 56:6 ... every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant,

Isaiah 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar, for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
---francis on 8/29/13


I want to understand you perfectly.
Are your saying that people who are not of the blood line of Abraham cannot be saved?
---francis on 8/28/13

You most likely will never understand perfectly. You don't believe the prophets.

Only Israel had the Law. Only Israel is found "redeemed".

Isa_43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name, thou art mine.

Isa_44:23 Sing, O ye heavens,for the LORD hath done it: shout,... for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.

Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
---Trav on 8/29/13


Trav, your wrong.
(Gal. 3:6,7).

.... two kinds of Israels, ....
---Mark_V. on 8/29/13

This would be fine if the context of Galations wasn't Israel.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
There are two Israels. Nth House Divorced of ten nations and the Southern House of two, Judah Benjamin.

There are no prophet's verifying you.

Hebrews 8:8 tells plainly the two participants. All the prophets agree.

Your doctrine comes with a curse.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
---Trav on 8/29/13


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Trav, your wrong. You must be a Jew in the flesh who doesn't want salvation for the Gentiles. First of all Paul wrote
"Just as Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness. Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham" (Gal. 3:6,7). Paul's argument is that because Abraham was a man of faith, only those who have faith are His spiritual children. Just as there is two kinds of Israels, even so there is two kinds of Jews. There is Jewish people in the flesh and Jewish people in the Spirit. Someone who is "called a Jew" because he is a physical descendant of Abraham, and yet lives as a lawbreaker, is not a Jew.
---Mark_V. on 8/29/13


\\the bloodline shows how satan has tried to destroy the bloodline of Christ\\

Does it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/28/13


the bloodline shows how satan has tried to destroy the bloodline of Christ but he was defeated at the cross. what other reason there be for putting the bloodline of Jesus from beginning to end?
---shira4368 on 8/28/13


---Trav on 8/28/13
I want to understand you perfectly.


Are your saying that people who are not of the blood line of Abraham cannot be saved?
---francis on 8/28/13


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Saved from what.
---Trav on 8/28/13
Are there are people who are not of Israel ......

---francis on 8/28/13

Do you find any other mentioned?
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
Luk_22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mat_19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
---Trav on 8/28/13



Where do you find "bride of Christ" in scripture?
---michael_e on 8/28/13

Very simply found in scripture. Today's doctrinally blind preachers cannot find it. Being on a different mission...of men. There hearts are good mostly...just misdirected.

Bride is Israel. New Covenant is to Israel. Both Houses Heb 8:8. The first marriage was to Israel. Jer 3:14. All twelve nations. Which includes Judah.
Hos_2:19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever, yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
Hos_2:20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.

The second marriage is to the reunited two houses.
---Trav on 8/28/13


There's only ONE covenant that saves:

"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

and there's no other ways to God's kingdom but only through Christ,

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
---christan on 8/28/13


Saved from what.
---Trav on 8/28/13
Are there are people who are not of Israel ( BLOOD LINE OF ABRAHAM) who will be saved from the lake of fire, and saved to be with God in the new heavens and new earth?

If not why not?

If there are under which covenant are they saved?
---francis on 8/28/13


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Another question with many, mostly uninterested, answers.
Where do you find "bride of Christ" in scripture?
If you find this maybe you can figure out, what or who is the "bride of Christ?"
If you figure that out, maybe you can decide if you want to be the "bride of Christ"
---michael_e on 8/28/13


Trav on 8/27/13
Is there anyone who is saved who is not of Israel?

---francis on 8/27/13

Saved from what.
You are the "one" with a problem with GOD's choice. Figure it out. Ask the only teacher instead of a priest.

Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel, and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

Eze 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Jer 31:31/Heb 8:8.
---Trav on 8/28/13


Trav, you are correct, almost all, not all, the free willers believe the same thing you and Steven believe.

I correct you because .....

---Mark_V. on 8/28/13

You are right in that I will not swap witnessed scripture written by the chosen of men of GOD.
You are not one of them.

I will not go against Prophets, Apostles of GOD. The scriptural witnesses against you are in the thousands. Yes thousands.

You correct nothing. Confusion is your foundation. And you seek to teach from it.

Isa_51:1 Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.
---Trav on 8/28/13


Trav, you are correct, almost all, not all, the free willers believe the same thing you and Steven believe. It does not change. Everyday it is the same thing. Speaking for sinful man is a proud thing for all of you to do.
I correct you because you speak salvation only for the Jews, give you the passages and still come out with the divorce wife and all those passages that foreshadowed what the New Testament was going to bring.
Out of all of you who whin all the time, one of you will have a change heart soon. The others will hold on to their free will pride they think they have.
---Mark_V. on 8/28/13


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You have always twisted my posts since I first came here to Christianet. I have never condemned the true Church of Christ only the worldly denominational churches. The meaning of church is completely different than it was 2,000 years ago.
---Steveng on 8/26/13


Amen x 10. You're not the only one that has noticed or experienced this.

Pro_4:14 Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.

Pro_5:14 I was almost in all evil in the midst of the congregation and assembly.

Pro_12:20 Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counsellors of peace is joy.
---Trav on 8/27/13


Trav on 8/27/13
Is there anyone who is saved who is not of Israel?


Could people who were not of the blood line of Abraham be a part of the old covenant?


Can people who are not of the blood line of Abraham be a part of the new covenant?

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius IS HE OF ISRAEL

Acts 8:27 a man of Ethiopia, under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, IS HE OF ISRAEL

Matthew 12:42 The queen of the south IS SHE OF ISRAEL

Daniel 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, IS HE FROM ISRAEL?

Can anyone NOT from israel worship God?
---francis on 8/27/13


Steven, I made a great attempt to show my love for you by saying I wish I could meet you, but you responded to me by trashing me. So you cannot say I did not show my love for you, you just didn't want it, you rather argue then to be humble. That's ok, that is the part you are to play in this great plan of God. Everyone has a part in the plan of God, you are playing your part.
---Mark_V. on 8/27/13


in your view which is male cow scatt, these nations are all Israel
Gal 3:14
---francis on 8/26/13

Wawt a pasture potty mouth...an against scripture. Confusing steak with scat. Gave up posting for you but, you provide opportunity's for lost sheep to get weaned. thanks.

Your careful avoidance of the scriptures preceding and following tell a story. Any Granny can see "evasion-u".
Preceding your verse:
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:29But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
---Trav on 8/27/13


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Joseph, I have to disagree with you as to who the bride is. The bride are the saints, the Church of Christ. What John saw was a vision in the future. When the chapter begins all the sinners of all the ages, both demons and men, including Satan, the beast and the false prophet are already in the lake of fire forever. The whole universe has been destroyed and God creates a new universe to be the eternal dwelling place for the redeemed. The bride is a New Testament metaphor for the Church (Matt. 25:1-13: Eph. 5:25-27). The whole city coming down is occupied by all the saints, is called the bride, so that all saints must be included in the bride.
---Mark_V. on 8/27/13


there is only one way to heaven. the one way is to be born of the Spirit and know that God sent His Son to die for everyone. everyone was predestined from before the foundation of the world. Christ is our door to heaven. there is no other way. works will not get anyone to heaven.
---shira4368 on 8/26/13


Mark_V.: "You are a very good example of a person who does not know how to apply true love."

Many friends, acqauintances, and even strangers in my small part of the world would think otherwise. That's why I invite anyone to meet them.

"You have been condemning the Church of Christ since I got online."

You have always twisted my posts since I first came here to Christianet. I have never condemned the true Church of Christ only the worldly denominational churches. The meaning of church is completely different than it was 2,000 years ago.
---Steveng on 8/26/13


---Trav on 8/26/13
You theology is MALE COW SCATT because no one but israel can be saved or part of the new covenenant unless they are of israel.


Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because thou hast obeyed my voice.

in your view which is male cow scatt, these nations are all Israel

Well, I got new for you,a nd you have heard it before

HERE IS THE BLESSING PROMISED BY GOD
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH for all nations
---francis on 8/26/13


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---Trav on 8/21/13
balderdash
Romans 11:13-24 For I speak to you Gentiles, And if some of the branches be broken off, thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them,
---francis on 8/21/13

Context of Romans is All nations of Israel.

Gentile/Ethnos = cast off/ put away/divorced Israel. 11:25 -concluding all Israel shall be saved.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Ethnos be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
---Trav on 8/26/13


All Tribes become -Foundation - of entry gates to New/Holy city of Yerusalem
Rev 21(all)
12 "And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:"
13 "On the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, on the west three gates."
14 "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the name of the twelve apostles of the Lamb."
Gates marked -names = twelve tribes of Yacob (Israel)
Ez 37 dry dead bones[...]
16-19 Two Nations/sticks "Israel" - "Yudah".
Ten tribes: House of Israel - Two tribes House of Yudah(Jews)
---char on 8/26/13


How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ?----blog question

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the (G1484 Ethnos)through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

One can find that the r.c. church substantiated an unfortunate mistranslation to the word Gentile. Gentile initially meant not of Rome. The word breaks down to Gen meaning nation, gentilus of or belonging to a ethnos race. Verified with strongs they will find either Helene/Greeks or Ethnos= race. Context is Israel, the Northern House divorced/put away. See Gal 3:13 ...redeemed us from curse of law...
Only Israel had the law.
---Trav on 8/26/13


How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ? What are you doing to prepare to be His Bride without spot or wrinkle as it says in Ephesians.

ONE ANSWER:
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH
---francis on 8/26/13


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1. where is the phrase "bride of Christ" found?
---michael_e on 3/8/11

Prophecy and intent is O.T. to Israel. Nth House divorced/widowed to be remarried.
Isa_62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
Isa_62:4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, thy land shall be married.
Mat_9:15 Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them...
---Trav on 8/26/13


"How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ?" One does not. The called and chosen are not His bride, we are His body. The "true" bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of Heaven to the saints on earth.
"Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,"
Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband... arrayed in fine linen,.. the righteousness of the saints." And our righteousness is of Him. Rev21:9-27>Rev 21:2>Rev. 18:16>Rev 19:8>Phl 3:9
---joseph on 8/26/13


Steven, you are right when you said,
"Most christians know the 'meaning' of love, but does not know how to apply it."
You are a very good example of a person who does not know how to apply true love. You should use your own advice. You have been condemning the Church of Christ since I got online. There is many genuine believers in every Christian Church.
---Mark_V. on 8/26/13


the only way to heaven is to be born again by the Spirit of God. there is no other way to heaven.
---shira4368 on 8/26/13


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To love your God with all your mind, heart, and soul.

To love your brother the same way.

To obey all the commandments in which the ultimate is simply to LOVE.

Most christians know the 'meaning' of love, but does not know how to apply it. The bible is full of examples. One could begin by doing an online KJV bible search for the words "one another," "each other," "comfort," and "encourg" to know the christian lifestyle. And forget what you know about today's meaning of the word "church."
---Steveng on 8/25/13


To Bro.Isaac M. all respect brother, you put it very well in a nut shell... I heard a testimony on youtube how a youngman died for 15 min.
his uncle claims at his side
he said " told him,"alot of people did not make it here,christians and sinners could not forgive..."

His uncle was a minister.
he came back with this
Response..a warning to us!
---Lidia4796 on 8/25/13


The only way to prepare for Jesus return is to have love for your fellow man be it your friend or enemy.
---Isaac_Mensah on 8/19/13


I have been born into the family of God. I am part of the Bride of Christ. When Christ returns, I won't need wings, or anything. I will just be outta here.
---shira3877 on 3/15/11


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i've packed my angel wings my harp and my golden spoon, is there something else i should take?
---andy3996 on 3/14/11


A person must become born-again, else they cannot see the kingdom of God.
---Eloy on 3/9/11


Why do today's christians make living a christian life so complex? The answer is to DO the one commandment Jesus spoke of - to love. (Love, as in the verb form)

Matthew 5:44, 46
Romans 5:5
Galatians 5:14
Galatians 5:22
Ephesians 5:2
1 Thessalonians 1:3
James 2:8
1 John 3:11
1 John 3:17
1 John 3:18
1 John 3:23
1 John 4:7

And Jesus said what you have done to the needy, you have done to me.
---Steveng on 3/8/11


\\If your in sin you can not enter into the Kingdom
1 Cor 6:9-10 Gal 5:21\\
---paul on 3/6/11


Paul, what version of the bible do you find the word "enter" in those verses? Every version I've read says "inherit"

Do you know what it means to inherit something? It means that someone gives you something that you now own.

If you inherit a house from your parents, you own it. If you have 10 kids, there might be 11 people who "enter" the house, but only 1 who inherited it. Why do you try to redefine words in scripture? Inherit means Come In Possession Of. Not simply live somewhere
---James_L on 3/8/11


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Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing....

'he' here is a referent to Jesus. He is preparing His church for himself.

Eph 5:25 "...Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her." A church made of men and women. In Christ we are One.

we call a boat 'her' even though the boat has no gender.

to answer the question, to prepare,, i think we are to love as He loved.

i will let Him do the cleaning and ironing to prepare a church for Himself.
---aka on 3/8/11


//How does one become the TRUE Bride of Christ?//
very good question.

1. where is the phrase "bride of Christ" found?
2. Where does it say the body of Christ and the "bride of Christ" are one and the same?
---michael_e on 3/8/11


Acts 2 v 38. He & she Matt.24 v 13.
---Lawrence on 3/8/11


What I have discovered in the Bible is our Father first draws you to Jesus on the cross > John 6:44. He joins you to Jesus so you are "one spirit with Him" (1 Corinthians 6:17), changing you "from the power of Satan to God" (Acts 26:18), so now you are trusting in Jesus for all that is guaranteed with trusting Him. This guarantee includes God's correction succeeding at making you holy > Hebrews 12:4-11 > without holiness, "no one will see the Lord" (in Hebrews 14). And Jesus' own prayer guarantees that we will be "perfect in one" in God's love > John 17:11,20-26, so "that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as He is, so are we in this world." (please see 1 John 4:17).
---Bill_willa6989 on 3/7/11


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2Pe 3:14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless,


It means to be found watching and waiting and with oil in your lamp.

I know some believe confess then mess, or confess then live in a mess.

But I assure you that Christ is coming back for those who are prepared for His arrival and not steeped in Sin.

I don't care how many alter calls you've partaken in, how many tears you've cried or how much you've confessed Christ.

If your in sin you can not enter into the Kingdom
1 Cor 6:9-10 Gal 5:21

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/6/11


-- Donna :

Sister, We're prepared for Heaven as the Bride of Christ through Accepting & being Baptized into the Word, Life and True that is the Light of God which is also our Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth !!!
---Shawn.M.T on 3/5/11


The answer is salvation!
If you are saved(born again)YOU automatically qualify to be the bride of Christ For Almighty God sees you at the moment of salvation as without spot or wrinkle.
---mima on 3/6/11


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