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I don't know how many visitors ChristiaNet gets a day but I imagine it is quite a few. That begs the question of perception, if visitors are viewing some of these posts I must wonder what their perception of Christianity is. Do we see that our hands are representing Christ as we type?

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Great Post AKA!
---John on 4/1/11


Paul, you're showing anger. Very Refreshing!

A good first step towards HONEST dialogue. Which is what you are seeing on these CN blogs. Posts by very seasoned Christians who have past that remedial point and have argue to seek out new and deeper knowledge of scripture. And we do find it here on CN. mainly due to this honest, Politically Incorrect dialogues. Its the way it has been done throughout all of scripture.

TIP...

Don't flash your credentials on these blog. No one gets impressed.

Just ask Pastor Jim. He was a Pastor and a Rabbi and a Theologian for many many many years.
---John on 4/1/11


2Ti 4:2 Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Most skip the longsuffering part and desire the rebuke.

Be wise as serpents but harmless as doves.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 4/1/11


...that is what it is like trying to reason with those who refuse to balance scripture with other scripture.
---aka on 4/1/11

aka...have a blessed weekend. Pray for Aunt Jemima fingers?
Our enemies are our friends, our friends enemies...sometimes. But, the blessing is the same...for the one who stays and prays.
Job 42:7
And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
Job 42:10
And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
---Trav on 4/1/11


Then the Lord said, "Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup, but inside you are full of wickedness."

Did you ever sit by that lady in church, whose syrupy, sweet perfume sticks on your brain for hours?

When you reached out to greet her, she stuck out her fat fingers and barely acknowledged you.

the microsecond that she did look in your eyes, you saw the daggers that are meant for your back.

that is what it is like trying to reason with those who refuse to balance scripture with other scripture.
---aka on 4/1/11




John

Here is the problem, you were wrong and your PRIDE wont allow you to admit it.

Instead you will dance around and divert the issue.

I am a minister who stands against sin, rebukes when necessary, loves at all times, casts out demons and preaches Holiness under the anointing of God.

You don't know me friend, you are telegraphing your stereo type onto me, not good.

Paul
---paul on 4/1/11


Like John, I also disagree with the statement that was made from Matthew 5:16.
In the context the passage is speaking to believers. "and it gives light to all who are in the house" Who are in the house? verse 14 tells us,
"you are the light of the world" those are believers. "let the light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify you Father in Heaven"
Only those who are born of God glorify our Father in heaven because they see your good works. The lost glorify their father who is in the world. And any good works we do, they laugh. Just as John said, they will say we are holier the thou. The Grace of God brings the lost to faith, not our actions.
---Mark_V. on 4/1/11


John,
"Here is where you falter! For you paraphrased a verse from Christ who has the ability to do just that"
It is you who falter, that was advice to the disciples.

Matthew 5:14: "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

1Pet.2:12 also.
---Nana on 3/31/11


Paul, are you advocating a Fundi version of holiness?
I.E We Christians are just bubbly/fluffy. Feminized Men softly whispering prayer in public. Lets not fight/judge. Equivalence = Love/Peace/I'm okay you're okay of liberalism. You need to take a close look at REAL Holy people. Far from your loviedovie/Potluckers.
Woman of Scripture did not make PotatoSalad. No they did this..

Jael... She drove a Tent stake through the skull of Siseros head. It was fused to the ground as his brain splattered. She couldn't even pull it up.

AND...She did this for Deborah who slaughtered thousands herself.

MEN...Samuel chopped Agag to several pieces LIVE!
Paul went in Peter's Face. YES..cursing/jestering.

(HIT 125 LTD)
---John on 3/31/11


John

Where did I falter?

I am living out a directive.

Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/31/11




Karen

I do apologize it seems I must have mis-posted my answer to you into another thread.

My answer was this.

Any one who does the will of the Father by calling on the name of Jesus for Salvation is my kinsmen.

Mt 12:50 "For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother."

Sorry for the mix up.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/31/11


I don't just preach the Word I live it before men that they may see my good works and glorify my Heavenly Father.
---paul on 3/30/11

Here is where you falter! For you paraphrased a verse from Christ who has the ability to do just that.
Because He is sinless.
However, you are not! We need to "try". But to imitate sinlessness is a facade,like the Pharissees. This has infact been the very reason people are turn-off to church. Because the "Holier Than Thou" phonies, are truly hyprocrites. The world sees it and are turn off to the Fundimental Pseudo Holiness.

Luke 11:39~...
Then the Lord said, "Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup, but inside you are full of wickedness."
---John on 3/31/11


\\There are many NonChristians who post on this Christian website, \\

One of them has suggested invoking HIS name in prayer (not once, but twice) to get saved.
---Cluny on 3/31/11


Guess Paul didn't have an answer to my question.
---KarenD on 3/30/11


John

I'm not saying that rebuke is without cause.

I'm saying we shouldn't have our finger on the button waiting to push.

I have been a Pastor for several years now and have found out that to be long-suffering and instructional with someone as they grow is far more advantageous then shaming them into doing things.

Its like the guy behind you at the light that blows a millisecond after the light changes.

We must help people to grow with the understanding that we all mature at different levls.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/31/11


When contradicted, when their deceit is made known, it is understandable they should respond with angry language. ---Warwick on 3/28/11

Fakes?? Some sheep R just unaware of scripture preacher,indoc'd extremely sometimes.
It may be your lofty opinions not backed with any scripture that perturbs some here.
You left another type out. Some preacher types run when scripture witnesses shine light on them. Even Jesus used names to typify. "Viper","fox" "Wolves","dogs" and "sheep".
Helped me, these typified terms. Wolfs can appear as sheep. A hissing viper camoflaged, strikes from ambush.
Matt 24:4Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
---Trav on 3/31/11


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Their is a lot of assuming going on.

I did not say we could influence anyone into Heaven.

I did say we have an impact on peoples consideration and attitude toward God.

I am going on experience not speculation.

I don't just preach the Word I live it before men that they may see my good works and glorify my Heavenly Father.

We cant self define what is meant in a comment without clarity, that is why we have our current president in office.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/30/11


Paul...
You are entering DANGEROUS territory and could fall down the slippery slope of Satan's trap.

Namely, Political Correctness. The Scripture of the Religious Cult of Liberalism (Satans version of Love/Peace). Save his Throne (aka: Save the Planet).

PC is designed specifically to Neuter/Stifle any free thought of Christians.

DON'T FALL FOR IT!!!

Arguing, fighting are all within scripture(OT/NT). For would we have heard the word if Jesus did NOT Argue.

Remember Paul and Peter arguing face to face? Remember the Temple Tables turn over by Jesus (Violence!)?

And the many early Christians.

DO YOU SEE THEM ASK THIS QUESTION?

NEVER!!!
---John on 3/30/11


//You probably dug and prayed and learned something.//
No, If there had been any soil (any substance) to dig into or pray about, I might have!
That's the value of honest disagreement and/or criticism.

But vile names, coming out of the blue, for unknown reasons, with no suggestions for improvement...serve no godly purpose. ( sometimes they are signs of mental illness or the demonic)

Since the person is not someone I admire or hope to please, I never worried about it much (however, being accused of the unpardonable sin was a first for me.)
---Donna66 on 3/30/11


The devil will always look for ways to tear christians down. Christians are known by the fruit that we bear. Let us(christians) make sure our fruit is ripe(sharing the gospel with others and obeying God in all things. We are not perfect and the unsaved tend to forget this. CN is a christian site and sometimes, christians act like the unsaved. But we are forgiven in Christ. But it does not give us a license to act ungodly toward anyone. We should represent Christ at all times. But we are not perfect and do make mistakes(fall back into sin).So don't judge all christians by a blogsite. That is presumptious and wrong.
---Robyn on 3/30/11


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Paul, Bloggers should use discernment. For no one should assume that because a place is Christian, that all who are in the place are also Christian. There are many NonChristians who post on this Christian website, just as there are many NonChristians who attend Christian churches. There are tares among the wheat, just as there are weeds in a garden. Being in a Christian place does not make one a Christian, just as standing in a garage does not make one a car: for there are two races of people in this world, Christians and NonChristians, those born once and those born-again.
---Eloy on 3/30/11


Is there no reconciliation? Is there no balance? How can we address on part of Jesus, but not the other teachings?

if you want to get the full value of a coin, you have to spend both sides.
---aka on 3/29/11


Wow! There are a lot of accusers here! ---Jasheradan on 3/29/11

that is quite an accusation.
---aka on 3/29/11


AKA....Ur on your game with these.
Thinking is required. Thinking is required in scripture.
Eating just the icing on the cake is a choice. Made by many.
Starting a fire for a steak barbeque....then drinking milk. A choice.
Psalm 111:5
He hath given meat unto them that fear him: he will ever be mindful of his covenant.
---Trav on 3/30/11


aka this statement," Thirdly, God instructs us to go and the Spirit will compel." Seems to be incorrect. Where do you get this idea?
---mima on 3/30/11


//...Ac 26:28...//

Firstly, this is not an instruction. Secondly, it is by God that we are drawn Acts 27:29. It is God that draws one to Jesus, it is through Jesus that we can be with the Father. Thirdly, God instructs us to go and the Spirit will compel. We are but an empty vessel that the Living Water uses. I am in no way saying that we are not to be winsome. I am saying that if God presents Himself, He will use the vessel that He uses and another human's winning smile does not decide eternal destination. Paul and Peter were exchanging spit when they were in each others face about Judaizing and the Spirit decided to keep it in the Scriptures. It seems that there are different degrees of persuasion given the audience.
---aka on 3/30/11


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aka,
The only explanation for "It is clear what and how we must do." I provided is:
Exodus 22:21
3 John 1:5
Matthew 5:44

"I am pretty sure that Jesus was not handing out candy kisses when He was clearing the temple of those engaged in evil deeds."
-aka on 3/29/11

Did I tell you to hand out candy kisses? If you get that directive from the verses I quoted, your issue is not with me but with the
record of the word of God in those verses.
---Nana on 3/30/11


Paul, you misunderstand the new birth of a believer. Christ is working through the believer. So we do have an influence on people. When we walk in the Spirit we accomplish what God wants us to do. But we do not persuade anyone into God's Kingdom. The Lord convicts them of sin. The words in Acts 26:28 "You almost persuaded me" Paul had just ask Herod, "do you believe the prophets? Paul's question put Herod in a dilemma, If he affirmed his belief in the prophets, he would also have to admit that what they taught about Jesus death and resurrection was true-an admission that would make him appear foolish before his Roman friends. Yet to deny the prophets would outrage his Jewish subjects. He was almost persuaded.
---Mark_V. on 3/30/11


We do have an influence over people who God is dealing with in a negative way or a positive way.

Why do people have such a hard time with this?

Is it because we lull ourselves into a false sense of complacency that allows us to assume no responsibility in anything?

God instructs us to go compel or persuade people.

Ac 26:28 Then Agrippa said to Paul, "You almost persuade me to become a Christian."

Paul
---paul on 3/29/11


It is clear what and how we must do. --Nana on 3/29/11

what about 2Jn 1:10-11? Is there no reconciliation? Is there no balance? How can we address on part of Jesus, but not the other teachings?

I am pretty sure that Jesus was not handing out candy kisses when He was clearing the temple of those engaged in evil deeds. I am pretty sure the many admonishments that He gave to the 'religious leaders' would not be considered blessings.

if you want to get the full value of a coin, you have to spend both sides.
---aka on 3/29/11


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Wow! There are a lot of accusers here! ---Jasheradan on 3/29/11

that is quite an accusation.
---aka on 3/29/11


Paul...Do you consider everyone and every denomination that calls itself Christian to be your brothers and sisters in Christ? What about Mormons, for instance?
---KarenD on 3/29/11


Paul, you are right, we should answer more kindly, love our neighbors, pray for those who hate us, have godly debates. Those should be the kind of things we should display as Christians. But not everyone is a Christian. So there is your problem.
Second, our goodness does not bring repentance to anyone. God's goodness does. He is working all around us every second of every hour bring sinners to faith and repentance. What some say to others in no way stops God from bringing faith and repentance to anyone. I don't wonder what everyone perception is, I only put down the Truth and let God take over. If He wants me to witness to someone, He will put him on my path without question.
---Mark_V. on 3/29/11


I realize people think their doing Gods will to call sin like umps call fowl, Paul for years thought he was doing Gods will persecuting Christians as did the Jews at Jesus crucifixion.

Consider this:

Ga 6: 1

Now when you see something you feel is in error you must check your motivation, if it is not to promote growth while exercising humility then you have veered into error.

If you are setting at a red light and it turns green you have the right of way according to knowledge, but if you look up and a 18 wheeler is opposing your path wisdom says to wait till it is clear.

Same thing in a mature spiritual walk

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/29/11


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aka

JESUS CHRIST

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/29/11


Excellent thought! I think you've answered your blog only too well!
---hop on 3/29/11


Exodus 22:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."

So it is that non christians are strangers.
3 John 1:5 "Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers,"

Matthew 5:44 "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you, 45: That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."

It is clear what and how we must do.
---Nana on 3/29/11


aka

I'm not saying to bless anyone, I'm saying to not curse them and treat them less than yourself.

You can believe Christ wouldn't, He would try to bring them into the knowledge of the truth.

Remember it is the goodness of God that brings men to repentance.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/29/11


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You can justify bad behavior in a verity of ways, but their is going to be no excuse when you stand before the almighty and give account.

Merely as an observation I am witnessing that not a lot of people show the longsuffereing, mercy and love of Christ in their answers.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/29/11


thorns in the side allow us to grow in spirit and die to our flesh.

if God allowed me to go on all happy with myself, i would not be able to have friends better than my brothers.
---aka on 3/28/11

Steel sharpens steel.
There is another saying that can be true. An enemy,especially angry will tell you the truth about yourself....as they see it. They won't protect our delicate feelings. A friend will be careful about our feelings....therefore we are denied the truth about ourself.
So who is the real friend? ha.
The reversed circle of this below.
Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
---Trav on 3/29/11


Wow! There are a lot of accusers here!
---Jasheradan on 3/29/11


Aka, that was a great answer you gave about who you bless. It is not that you want bad things to happen to them only that we should choose wisely. I was reminded a couple of years back not to use the word brother on everyone. Because not everyone is your brother or sister in Christ. I used that word as my normal speech but I do not now. It is not to divide but Scripture tells us there is children of wrath, and children of God. I'm now careful whom I call a brother or sister in Christ. For many here are not our brothers or sisters. They are wolves pretending to be your brothers or sisters speaking religious talk to confuse others.
---Mark_V. on 3/29/11


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//If someone believes on Christ they are your kinsman and I recommended you treat them as such.//

Do you know that many here believe in Christ...Michael the Christ, God the Christ, the Biblical Christ? These do not believe in/on/through/with/by Jesus as the Christ. They are not my kin, and I will do as the Spirit leads if my flesh does not rise above.

//God Bless, Paul//

When you bless those engaged in evil deeds (denying Jesus Christ and the existence of the Holy Spirit) whether you know it or not, you participate in their deeds. 2Jn 1:10-11. Be careful.
---aka on 3/28/11


I dusted the dust & cobwebs (literally) of my Bible and set about to "see" myself where he was wrong. Scripture ....not the provoker "proved" the truth. The provoker ....provoked me to look. He couldn't win a soul with his personality....rather the opposite. --Trav on 3/28/11

totally agree...if it were God letting me chat with only those i agree with, i would have remained the despicable me.

thorns in the side allow us to grow in spirit and die to our flesh.

if God allowed me to go on all happy with myself, i would not be able to have friends better than my brothers.
---aka on 3/28/11


When a newly born christian asks me about these so-called christian blogs, I tell them to stay away from them until they are very well versed in the bible. Knowing the bible well separate those those who are speaking the truth from those who are lying. These blogs will turn off a christian by the mere fact that there is no unity. Everyone, it seems, has their own interpretation of scripture having only the worldly knowledge of God. Even if Jesus were on these blogs, he, too, will get flamed.
---Steveng on 3/28/11


You guys are comparing apples to oranges with the example of Christ calling out false doctrines and people attempting to lead the flock astray.

These were not people who disagreed about theology but people who were set out to harm fellow believers, none of which I have witnessed here.

We come here to debate philosophical and theological points not to trick and deceive.

Tell me what difference it makes to a mans salvation to believe osas or not, or pre-d or not, rapture or not, free-will or not.

If someone believes on Christ they are your kinsman and I recommended you treat them as such.
God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/28/11


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Paul...Matthew 23:33...Jesus words. We are to call a snake a snake and false doctrine is to be preached against. Jesus did not go around calling everyone good names. He told the truth. Should we witness any differently?
---KarenD on 3/28/11


Donna, I asked Paul to be specific as otherwise we cannot know what he means. Maybe he is talking of the type of language which has been directed at you, maybe not.

I have also been subjected to abusive name calling but appreciate it. It shows me, and others, the abuser has been stung by God's Truth, has no good argument, so resorts to abuse. Some here are deceived (by others) and some are deceivers out to undermine God's word. When contradicted, when their deceit is made known, it is understandable they should respond with angry language.

It would surely be better if such people went elsewhere as they are not helpful contributors but they are exposed as fakes by their abuse, and their obvious rejection of God's word.
---Warwick on 3/28/11


Mark

I appreciate you my friend, God speed.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/28/11


i am saying if God is working with someone, do you think that God will stop with that person if that person sees a cross conversation here and is turned off?
---aka on 3/28/11

If GOD is drawing a person....who could interfere.
I did not like the guy who pointed out some facts to me. I wasn't going to visit with the person again. But, I did on a business matter and some new aggravation/provocation came about.
I dusted the dust & cobwebs (literally) of my Bible and set about to "see" myself where he was wrong. Scripture ....not the provoker "proved" the truth. The provoker ....provoked me to look. He couldn't win a soul with his personality....rather the opposite.
---Trav on 3/28/11


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Yes . . . I think of how someone writing may misrepresent me or relate in not a scriptural way, but I can make sure I write what can help others who are reading, instead of just fighting the person or trying to control the person to understand me. Instead, stay with writing what is doing me so much good and can be good. And, of course, God can use this to help the one who is being stubborn and impossible. Because God's word "shall accomplish what I please," He says in Isaiah 55:11 (c: God's word will succeed in all that He means, in spite of how ones can make it seem like no one can get straight about what the Bible says! What God means is turning out to be better than what we have thought, and maybe argued (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 3/28/11


paul, i am not talking about calvism.

i am saying if God is working with someone, do you think that God will stop with that person if that person sees a cross conversation here and is turned off?
---aka on 3/28/11


There is, fortunately, only one person who speaks this way to other people...but the moderators never censor his remarks.
---Donna66 on 3/28/11

You've been blessed by a preform of persecution. Blessed? Our Lord suffered worse. The Prophets. The Apostles.
You survived it appears. You probably dug and prayed and learned something.
Only the beginning. Preschool for you....me and others trying to use scripture.
A mark....if we are scripturally found/sound.

2 Corinthians 12:10
Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
---Trav on 3/28/11


I didn't bookmark the site, so I don't recall its name, but a while ago I was searching Google for an old CN blog and discovered a site dedicated to highlighting Christian hypocricy. There were a number of CN bloggers whose replies were posted on a forum there for ridicule.

It's one thing to have a healthy debate and another to feed those who are looking for a reason to cast aspersions on Christians the exact thing they're looking for. We can't profess lovingkindness and then spew ugliness toward one another without looking like hypocrites.
---AlwaysOn on 3/27/11


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I disagree with Robyn. If visitors were turned off before visiting the site, why would they visit? I suspect there is a glimmer of interest, perhaps faint, that brings them here.

Perhaps some want a look below the surface of TBN preachers and tacky appeals for funds, to see what Christians are really like. I wish they could see that most Christians are nice, but imperfect folks...Not the bitter,sarcastic,criticizing people they see here.

I'm always interested in the topics discussed but I'm also grateful that Christians I know in person are usually forgiving, helpful and happy.
I often pray that anybody who is actually interested in Christianity will be drawn to such believers elsewhere.
---Donna66 on 3/27/11


I does matter what we say and do with all men, christians included. Paul warns against, " bite and devour one another..." and to rather "admonish one another".

Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Romans 2:24 "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written."
Romans 15:9 "And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy, as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name."
1 Peter 2:12 "Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, ..."
---Nana on 3/27/11


Warwick--//I have seen some cross words but nothing like the terms in which Jesus and the apostles spoke to those who opposed the truth.//
Actually, I've been called a "whited sepulcher" an "asp with poison under her tongue" and a "blasphemer of the Holy Spirit", which pretty much ARE the words Jesus and/or His disciples used.
Being accused of Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit would be esp. hurtful (except it isn't true) because it is the unforgivable sin.
There is, fortunately, only one person who speaks this way to other people...but the moderators never censor his remarks.
---Donna66 on 3/28/11


Paul, you still haven't cited a specific example of what you are talking about. If you don't show us a specific example your comments are somewhat meaningless, and open to a range of interpretetions.

Are you saying we should not contradict someone who constantly rejects the truth of God's word? I can't imagine you mean that as Jesus and the apostles were very direct when dealing with such people. Remember Paul suggested certain troublemakers should castrate themselves- Galatians 5:12.
---Warwick on 3/28/11


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Paul, I accept your apology. It does hurt when someone calls you a liar or makes sarcastic remarks towards you. But as a believer we have to have control, and understanding, that is why I agree when you said, "Do we see that our hands are representing Christ as we type? That is the whole purpose of answering for me. I write God's word down, and they call me a liar. It's not my fault they by-pass what they don't want to believe. All I can do is give them the Truth, I cannot and will never try to convince them otherwise, it is up to the Spirit. Such a God cannot be found out by searching. He can be known as He is revealed to the heart by the Holy Spirit through the Word.
---Mark_V. on 3/28/11


Yes, Blogger, you are quite right that the discussions can get heated, but there is no excuse for discourtesy, misrepresentation and lies.
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/27/11


I realize some believe that certin people were created for hell no matter what.

But I believe people can be won by our conversations (life lived out) before them.

We are witnesses for Christ and our actions do make a difference.

And to site an example is when certain people determine someone's worth to Christ through their own interpretation of scripture.

This is not a technique used of the disciples of old.

Or to personally attack someone because their differences, if you have not seen this you simply have not read many blogs here.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/27/11


Mark

I was not intending a personal attack toward you as much as stating an observation.

I do refrain from personal attacks and yes I do shoot brothers straight face to face, and am greatly appreciated for it.

My tag plate says str8tlk for it represents my personality.

If you felt it was a personal attack I apologize before the entire community of our peers.

I love you as a brother for you are whether we agree on trivial matters or not.

We agree Christ is the Son of God, He died for our sins and is at the right hand of the Father interceding for us.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 3/27/11


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I believe that to many people believe,or better said interprute scripture differently than others which causes these issues,I adhere is the scripture that vsays we see as in a fog now but one day we will know as we are known. That being said I believe in christ,who he was who sent him ,the reason he was sent,and by faith the free gift of salvation that comes with it believing and professing him to the world. There are several other points ,but in general this is all I need,The rest i will know one day.
---tom2 on 3/27/11


The purpose of Blogging on ChristiaNet if for open free forum discussion of Christian issues and some non Christian issues and it times it is going to be intense and heated between parties of divergent views and opinions of the subjects under discussion.

We regrettably get a lot of question from cry babies and fools who refuse to use the tools and resources within their locality to solve their personal problems. Instead they dishonor themselves and their family members airing their dirty laundry to the public here. And regrettably the pitiful question seem to hang around for years after the long after the urgency of the issue long has passed.

I Blog aggressively keeping on the target engaging protagonist without quarter.
---Blogger9211 on 3/26/11


The Blogger Instructions say "Christ-like replies only." But some get close to the edge. There is such a thing as Loving Disagreement, presenting your understanding and why, without damning. Thinking of ourselves as first-graders instead of Seminary presidents might help keep things warm and civil!
---Geraldine on 3/26/11


Well said Paul
---dowanor on 3/26/11


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Don't worry yourself about this Paul. If they are turned off by what they see here, they were probably turned off before visiting this site. Visitors must realize,too. There are troublemakers and devils, everywhere we go in this life.At home,on our jobs.Everywhere. This is why we must be prepared(with the word of God) and know how to kick the devil in the ____. CN offers hope,salvation to those who are lost as well. There is something for everyone here. All depends on what you are looking for. I hope one is looking for Jesus. He is here.
---Robyn on 3/26/11


Paul, I am sure that most of the posts here are representative of normative Christianity in the USA and the UK - self-righteous, accusatory, and often inflammatory.
---John.usa on 3/26/11


I must admit, that for the most part, we do seem to be more concerned with getting our own point of view across than sharing the message of the Gospel. That's just the old human nature coming out & demanding to be seen. We all do it be we as Christians should be more concerned with winning people to Christ than our point of view. It's a sad thing we do to one another. We should be mature enough to share our opinion & when someone disagrees, move on. Don't argue the point. We are all individuals with different views. That's how God made us. We should learn to appreciate that feature rather than try & make everyone see things our way. Well, one day we will all be in perfect harmony. For now we just have to do the best we know how.
---Reba on 3/26/11


Yes, we do represent the Lord as His servant by giving the Word of God in "Love". It should be done in peace and harmony on one accord. Therefore,if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. Philippians 2:1-2
---Kimbe7395 on 3/26/11


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I see mud slinging and gouging in blogs very often.

I love to be challenged it is a huge motivator to me, It allows for more in depth study and self growth.

---paul on 3/26/11

From my own experiences, things are much the same whenever: sinful, imperfect, PEOPLE are involved:

Christians, Moslems, Other Religions, Politicians, Charities, Protests About Something, etc.

Christians, and their Churches too, can be some of the most irritating. Really!

I once heard a Pastor say that Christians are well-known as "The only group that shoots their own wounded". Not very loving. Huh?
---Augie on 3/26/11


The standard we all should aspire to is this one, "whatever you do or say, let it be as a representative of the Lord Jesus, all the while giving thanks through him to God the Father." Col 3:17 (NLT)
We should all endeavor to bring forth the character and authority Jesus demonstrated during His sojourn on earth, unfortunately although "the spirit indeed is willing, the flesh is weak." Therefore we all should stay alert and pray. Otherwise the temptations of the carnality of our thinking will certainly overpower us.
I have found that if I pay attention to what is going on within me to discern my own limitations and weaknesses I am less likely to criticize to weaknesses of another.
---Josef on 3/26/11


Unfortunately, many believers don't have control of their words, and insult and name call rather freely.

Some people have been abused and know no other way to relate to people, other than abusively. It is sad.
---Trish on 3/26/11


paul,

God Bless you too.
---Nana on 3/26/11


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Paul, could you give me a specific example of what you call mud slinging?

I have seen some cross words but nothing like the terms in which Jesus and the apostles spoke to those who opposed the truth.
---Warwick on 3/26/11


Paul, you posted the question and then commented on it. I believe to bringing the Truth out is the most important thing. And after that we should let God do with His truth as He sees fit to do.
You said something that I believe is not correct when you said:
"If non-Christians are reading some of these blogs I pray it doesn't turn them off to the Savior."
non-Christian are already turned off from the Savior. They don't need an excuse. They are heading to hell and love every minute of it. If they read what some write here that is bad, it only confirms what they believe. But if they hear God's Truth, God might use that Truth to bring Him to faith.
---Mark_V. on 3/27/11


paul, do you think that deliverance, share in inheritance, and eternal destination has to do with our interaction with each other?

all my life, i kept "Christianity" at an arm's length because of other "Christians".

Our pull to the Only Way is only through the Father (deliverance), and the only way to determine our eternal destination and a share in His inheritance (God) is through Jesus Christ.

In the meantime, it is the Holy Spirit who convicts and comforts and strengthens.

"Christians" are still the same, but now my focus is not on us, but it is on Him.

Despite our worst, God's will be done.
---aka on 3/27/11


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