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What do you think of Pastors Terry Jones and Wayne Sapp of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainsville? Are they responsible for provoking the recent outrage in Afghanistan, when at least 20 were killed?

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They are crazier than most, but not all...
---atheist on 6/2/11


St. Paul does not speak highly of "zeal not according to knowledge."
---Cluny on 4/28/11

Exactly.
This verse was given in regard to Judah. Burning dung is not Zeal, but for health reasons.

1 Samuel 2:3
Talk no more so exceeding proudly, let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
Proverbs 1:29
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Proverbs 14:6
A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.
---Trav on 4/29/11


St. Paul does not speak highly of "zeal not according to knowledge."
---Cluny on 4/28/11


Zeal does not justify every act.
---Donna66 on 4/28/11

Neither does lack of it.

Lukewarm is the most disgusting of all.....as per GOD.

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
---Trav on 4/28/11


I agree with eloy. But I do think Pastor jones showed very poor judgement. Zeal does not justify every act.
---Donna66 on 4/28/11




I feel that any religion that is AntiChrist and promotes violence does not belong in this country.
---Eloy on 4/22/11

Was thinking about you and your comment Eloy. Your not lukewarm. Matter a fact, can see you having King Davids back.
Don't always agree with you or you me, but a religious enemy (muzzie) is plain to see.

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
---Trav on 4/28/11


Trav--I wish he could somehow "satisfy" the families that lost loved ones in the
terrorist attack that was a response to his burning the Koran.
---Donna66 on 4/26/11

He can't/won't satisfy them. You do it. Work/stand against Jones. Prove they are who they think they are.
Pacify the terrorist and your fear. Buy them New Korans, build them a Mosque with your inheritance. These family's will surely applaud you.
Bad,Bad ole Jones one man standing against a religion determined to eradicate "all" other religions. If he would just keep his mouth shut, he would be like us.
Hebrews 13:6
So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
---Trav on 4/27/11


Trav--Doesn't matter if Jones satisfies me or the US State Dept. I wish he could somehow "satisfy" the families that lost loved ones in the
terrorist attack that was a response to his burning the Koran.
---Donna66 on 4/26/11


So, Trav, I see that you still have not taken my advice.
...facts are not always on the surface or based on misguided thoughts.

I am sorry that I tagged you so hard.
---Elder on 4/25/11

Elder is a bonus given name. Who could have a problem with that.
Your advice...well...doesn't fall into any category of being acceptable....yet. Ur advice never seen "the" test. Was not applicable/proven by scripture witnesses.
Your correct,facts are not always on the surface as you seen "whom" the scriptures are written too.
Apology accepted and "given" also.
Neh4:20
In what place therefore ye hear sound of the trumpet, resort ye thither unto us: our God shall fight for us.
---Trav on 4/26/11


So, Trav, I see that you still have not taken my advice.
Your little guessing about my name is still not right either. It just so happens that Elder is my given name. The reason I tell you this is because facts are not always on the surface or based on misguided thoughts.
I also now understand what has you so upset. I am sorry that I tagged you so hard.
---Elder on 4/25/11




Trav you are so coy.
....ask my friends here why I use the name Elder.
1. Since you are so concerned about "whom" as I used it, tell me to whom was Matthew, Luke and Mark writing to?
---Elder on 4/25/11

You label me Sir, after your name diatribe?
Obviously, you're older. Only rationale fitting.
1.Concern? Rather education, you know how to "divide and see" per ur post. Your statement:Trav// Now if you would just learn to divide Scripture see to whom and when it was written you may be able to make some correct judgements also.---Elder on 4/7/11

2. They obeying...tell us plainly..."whom" they were sent too.
Matt 10:6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 4/25/11


Trav you are so coy. You might want to ask my friends here why I use the name Elder.
Since you are so concerned about "whom" as I used it, tell me to whom was Matthew, Luke and Mark writing to?
While you are at it tell me also what was your point?
---Elder on 4/25/11


So speak out! Protest Muslim influence in America, if you want.
---Donna66 on 4/23/11

Read that he satisfied you and the girls at the state dept. He is just protesting now.
If our country was behind him you would be too.
Most are more afraid of provoking a few sheet heads than provoking GOD. But,there always was a weak faith cycle in the family.
Jud2:12
they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger.
Psalm 78:56
Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
---Trav on 4/25/11


Don't get me wrong. I'm not for catering to any religion in this country...least of all ISLAM. The Koran promotes godlessness from cover to cover, and advocates killing Christians and Jews.

So speak out! Protest Muslim influence in America, if you want. But is it heroic to deliberately provoke violence by haters of America? The US State Dept. had already warned Jones of what might follow the Koran burning. American lives were lost... just as they had warned.
Jones couldn't have given the radical Islamists any better support if he had sent them weapons of war.
---Donna66 on 4/23/11


Trav-- ... You who are so against war, sounding so militant!

---Donna66 on 4/23/11

Against War? Where did that come from?
I'm for Christ's people winning any righteous war of any type. His people will...with GOD's protection,blessing and fulfillment of same.
Psa 41:11By this I know that thou favourest me, because mine enemy doth not triumph over me.
Jer 33:24Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
25Thus saith the LORD, If my covenant be not with day and night, ....
26Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, ....
---Trav on 4/24/11


I am not aware of any false doctrine, nor any confusion about their own God, that Pastor Terry Jones taught. I read in the news that he stood strongly against the koran which the contents thereof clearly instruct and promote mutilation and murder of all that are not islamic: and this violence is no false doctrine, but is published truth which all people can read for themselves from the unholy koran on the common market, and witness in the crimes of those who practice these criminal sins against God whom they call allah and against mankind which he made in his shape.
---Eloy on 4/23/11


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Trav-- I can't believe it. You who are so against war, sounding so militant!

Nothing wrong with Pastor Jones sentiment....but to deliberately provoke murder of one's own countrymen ...I see no good in it! These terrorists already want to kill every American on the planet, even without the provocation of the Rev Jones!

If there was some objective to be gained, some desired response to be elicited, perhaps the sacrifice would be worth it.

But the only possible thing to be gained here, was Jones expression of his disdain for Islam. Nothing heroic or honorable about that, esp. when he knew American lives would be lost because of it!
---Donna66 on 4/23/11


There faith clearly teaches killing, ....
feel that any religion that is AntiChrist and promotes violence does not belong in this country.
---Eloy on 4/22/11

What does darkness have in common with light?
Girl boys leaders in the churches, teaching false doctrine for Bible.
They should run, being confused about their own GOD.
Can't make a stand..... running.
Psalm 18:29
For by thee I have run through a troop, by my God have I leaped over a wall.
Psalm 7:6
Arise, O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded.
Psalm 18:37
I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed.
---Trav on 4/22/11


No. The pastor has definite views against violent religions like the Islamic religion which promotes violence and mutilations and killings of all that are not of their faith, proven by suicide bombings and the world trade center attack of 911 injuring and killing multitudes of Americans. There faith clearly teaches killing, which both Christians and Americans do not believe in. I feel that any religion that is AntiChrist and promotes violence does not belong in this country.
---Eloy on 4/22/11


No. The pastor has definite views against violent religions like the Islamic religion which promotes violence and mutilations and killings of all that are not of their faith, proven by suicide bombings and the world trade center attack of 911 injuring and killing multitudes of Americans. Their faith clearly teaches killing, which both Christians and Americans do not believe in. I feel that any religion that is AntiChrist and promotes violence does not belong in this country.
---Eloy on 4/22/11


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1.what good did this expression of "passion" achieve?
2.Was it a witness for the Lord?
3.What chance ..that Muslims would be drawn to the Lord because of it?
4.What about soldiers in danger and their families...---Donna66 on 4/18/11

1. What good? What value are David's actions then? Psalm 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside, it shall not cleave to me.
2. Yes. His.
3. Yes,what chance after 2,000 years of witness.
4.Psalm 106:10
he saved them from the hand of him that hated them, and redeemed them from the hand of the enemy.
Your statement says all sheep should live in fear of a weak enemy. Not having faith of GOD's protection or deliverance.
---Trav on 4/22/11


Trav, Bro. Elder is not hateful or bitter but he is to the point. ---shira_3877 on 4/18/11

Well backed his self into a scriptural corner and can't extract gracefully...except by acknowledging scriptures on "Whom" i've posted. His pride won't allow it. He would rather turn turn focus off truth of "whom" scripture posted. i confess, prideful way he stated "i needed to learn "whom" scripture was written too, provoked scripture i answered with. That he will not speak about.
That teaches me the heart and the doctrine.
Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him, if he repent, forgive him.
---Trav on 4/22/11


We never were a Christian country, Trav.

You didn't think they were the same thing, did you?

I keep on hearing from ignorant people, "American was founded on Christian principles!" but nobody can provide one.
---Cluny on 4/18/11

Technicality's of men. Pick up a copy of the Light and Glory if a reader. Couple of researchers who didn't formerly know each researched beginnings of our nation.
They don't even know scripture to any dramatic level but, dug up some historical facts may not be aware of. Book won't change a mind, just some jig saw pieces.
Isa 62:2 And the Goy shall see thy righteousness, all kings thy glory: thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
---Trav on 4/22/11


Trav I asked for your C/N e-mail. I have not acknowledged your scripture references because they are not posted in sincerity.
---Elder on 4/18/11


Spent a minute looking for this email thingy....didn't find it. Understanding a "sheep" might get something from the "whom" scripture you would reply with, kept it public.
i easily say whats needs said here.
Scripture i posted is always sincere....i "Do Not" play around with it.
Forgive names called you. Thought you approved. Calling Luther, "Luthersick" etc. Approved only the "elder" class only?
Never once condemn'ed Herb as witnessed.
He knows too. Realized if he tolerates...he understands you.
---Trav on 4/22/11


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\\Were we EVER a Christian country, Trav?
The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Senate and thus part of US law, says in so many words that government of United States is NOT founded on the Christian religion.---Cluny on 4/18/11

So we quit being a Christian Nation when the treaty was wrote. Hmmm. \\

We never were a Christian country, Trav.

We might have been--and still are--a country with a majority of Christians, but that is not the same thing.

You didn't think they were the same thing, did you?

I keep on hearing from ignorant people, "American was founded on Christian principles!" but nobody can provide one.

At the time of the Revolution, conservative Bible believers were royalists.
---Cluny on 4/18/11


Trav, Bro. Elder is not hateful or bitter but he is to the point. I read all the blog dialogue and not once was he ugly or hateful. The fact is...he is trying to help you. He also used "whom" the correct way. I can tell you when I need spiritual guidance, I always ask Bro. Elder. If you just knew this man and his wife, you would change your attitude.
---shira_3877 on 4/18/11


Were we EVER a Christian country, Trav?
The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Senate and thus part of US law, says in so many words that government of United States is NOT founded on the Christian religion.---Cluny on 4/18/11

So we quit being a Christian Nation when the treaty was wrote. Hmmm.

Does a piece of Political paper written by men dictate what Cluny believes? Hmmm.

Naw....last poll i seen weak P.C. indoc'd christians still dominate the numbers. Weak being the key word.

Isaiah 3:12
As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
GOD heard one man and responded.
Many times.
---Trav on 4/18/11


Trav-- //Go Jones.....wish we all were passionately moved "men".//

And what good did this expression of "passion" achieve?
Was it a witness for the Lord?
What chance is there that Muslims would be drawn to the Lord because of it? Or Americans? What about soldiers in danger and their families...what would they learn about Christianity?

Christians have all sorts of "passions", but a fruit of the spirit is temperance or moderation.
---Donna66 on 4/18/11


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Trav I asked for your C/N e-mail. There you can say anything you want. Mine is elder2291 so take your shots there.
It is you who is calling names and acting out.
Knuckle head and louse head, is that your idea of teaching truth and comfort?
I have not acknowledged your scripture references because they are not posted in sincerity.
You continue to condemn Herb and he has not said anything to you. You have wrote like a person chemically inspired.
---Elder on 4/18/11


Trav
Strange but the truth does that to some people who are hurt by it.
---Elder on 4/18/11

Elder...time to start acting like one. Whom was the scripture written too.
If your a messenger...why is your message evasive and bitter.
Why do you not recognize the scriptures I've posted.
Hate? I'm your's and Herbs best friend if I've provoked/hurt you to the truth.
You are Trav, Trav is you....you got a scripture lesson. Who benefited...me? You.. knuckle head.
I'll pray for you and you pray for me. I'll watch my mouth...you watch yours. Instead of the other way around. PorFavor?
Prov 18:24
A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly: there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.
---Trav on 4/18/11


\\ Instead we behave the opposite, in a Christian Country. Oh, we're not Christian? We should return then. \\

Were we EVER a Christian country, Trav?

The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Senate and thus part of US law, says in so many words that the government of the United States is NOT founded on the Christian religion.
---Cluny on 4/18/11


Trav even Satan quoted Scripture in his perversion. Now look at how that applies to what you have been doing. There is no doubt you have a hate for Herb and me. Strange but the truth does that to some people who are hurt by it. They attack the messengers.
---Elder on 4/18/11


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Trav
All I did was offer advice.
I said, "learn to divide the Scripture and see to whom and when it was written."
What's wrong with that?
I guess that when people like you get vindictive nothing satisfies them.
---Elder on 4/17/11

Ha.You see me but, not Elder. Tell him Herb. You thought to give a lesson and received.....scripture.

Always learning: This week I read Elder 1:1-10.
So far blanco,no advice or scripture you've only given insult for bread.
John 1:47
Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in "whom" is no guile!
Amos 7:5
Then said I, O Lord GOD, cease, I beseech thee: by "whom" shall Jacob arise? for he is small.
---Trav on 4/17/11


"Posted some of "Whom" because someone got mouthy and gospel cocky."
Trav
Now I see your problem. All I did was offer advice. I said, "learn to divide the Scripture and see to whom and when it was written." And,that was not even on this blog.
What's wrong with that?
So you have carried that over to act the way you have. Then you call that,
"mouthy and gospel cocky?" You should live so long. I wonder how you feel about the way Jesus instructed people?
I even explained to you the use of "whom."
I guess that when people like you get vindictive nothing satisfies them.
Can anyone else explain if I used the word "whom" wrong or what is Trav's issue?
---Elder on 4/17/11


But don't expect compassion....
... stabbing in the dark in a euphonious manner.
think that no one notices.
---Elder on 4/16/11

Compassion? Not applicable,but i offer it, understanding.

Hide...no one notices??
All I've posted publically. "Whom" came from scripture. "Whom", you didn't want to address.
You posted publicly to give me a lesson in "whom".
A Gospel Goliath with slurs and taunt.
The Rock...
We are either broken by it or broken on it.
Matt 21:44
Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.
Prov 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
---Trav on 4/17/11


trav-- What is your point about
the word "whom" on 4/13. What is
2 more out of 715?
---Donna66 on 4/16/11

Trav// Now if you would just learn to divide Scripture and see to whom and when it was written you may be able to make some correct judgements also.---Elder on 4/7/11

"Whom" is found 715 times KJV.
Posted some of "Whom" because someone got mouthy and gospel cocky.
Scripture addresses "whom" hundreds, and variations of thousands of times. Denom's....are not comfortable with this. I know, was one 40 years of my life.
Prov9:8
Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, he will love thee.
---Trav on 4/17/11


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If we were like some Muslim countries, Jones would have had his tongue cut out before he could even reach for his matches!
---Donna66 on 4/16/11

What we tolerate....we accept,adopt and teach our children by example is OK. Yoke a Donkey to a Clydesdale.

Old Testament Israel didn't do it ....at first. GOD is an unchanging GOD....right?
Who made the error of acceptance?
Esau...
Samson...
Solomon...
Almost all the Kings of Israel after the split.

And of their troubles because???
Go Jones.....wish we all were passionately moved "men". Instead we behave the opposite, in a Christian Country. Oh, we're not Christian? We should return then. Some comitting/all whole heart will.
---Trav on 4/17/11


trav-- What is your point about
the word "whom" on 4/13. What is
2 more out of 715?
The word "whom" was used correctly in all the scriptures you cite, due to the passive verb.

I can understand Terry Jones' feeling about the Koran. But am horrified at what he did. He'd even been warned of the consequences by our government. It couldn't be that he didn't know what to expect!

Then again maybe it could.
Maybe he never thought any further than making a political statement for domestic consumption in the USA.
If we were like some Muslim countries, Jones would have had his tongue cut out before he could even reach for his matches!
---Donna66 on 4/16/11


"So you won't be my buddy? Whom will i share all this treasure."
Trav
Now who told you that?
I have no problem being your "buddy." Post your CN mail address.
But don't expect compassion while displaying a mental eunuch attitude. Those who compete in this event wont tell or accept truth. They do, however, try to show intelligence by stabbing in the dark in a euphonious manner. Then they think that no one notices.
I also know of a man who battled a Master Swordsman with a stick of wood. He won!
It is not so much the physical weapon but knowing the spiritual ones and your enemies moves.
Jesus' weapon is the words that He speaks because they are truth.
Another lesson, hey.
---Elder on 4/16/11


It seems the one who carries that mind has problems with everyone.
Ahh.. "the man of dirt..." you chose a good title.
---Elder on 4/14/11

Ha, old pacapal of mine,you brought a box cutter to sword practice.
Truth is never popular. Christ died because of it. Closet friend denied him. The sheep stood by.
Matt 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
So you won't be my buddy? Whom will i share all this treasure.
Eldaman, u'll b dirt 1 day. Stubborn dirt, but dirt nonetheless.
Isa 28:12
To "whom" he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest, this is the refreshing: yet they would "not" hear.
---Trav on 4/15/11


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Maybe it's not a childish mind only a perverted one. It seems the one who carries that mind has problems with everyone.
Ahh.. "the man of dirt..." you chose a good title. Jesus makes us more than that!
---Elder on 4/14/11


Maybe the childish mind needs English lessons.
(Whoops, and he really thought he was intellectual.)
---Elder on 4/13/11

i used to be intellectual,then I met you,now I'm humbled as dirt and studying at "U"of elder.
You were gonna show me "whom". i'll take a lesson,support with 2 or more and thank you sir.
Scripture is testament,not Trav.
This dumb child does know a "Man" of GOD would be a man and say hmmmm, scripture does say "whom". Hmmmp, now I'm aware. A friend shares a treasure in a field, not an enemy.
Ask Herb, he'd like to tell you trav's not elders problem here, "elder" is.
Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites, to "whom" ....
---Trav on 4/14/11


Maybe the childish mind needs English lessons.
Whom = pronoun used instead of who as the object of a verb or preposition.
Now it is recess go on back to slinging mud.
Fool is used 66 times in Scripture. Don't be one!
Prov 10:8 - The wise heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.
(Whoops, and he really thought he was intellectual.)
---Elder on 4/13/11


Ah...Trav is trying to be intellectual again I see....
---Elder on 4/12/11

Whomelder will look.
Deut 19:17
Then both the men, between "whom" the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and judges, which shall be in those days,

Hmmm...this is neat... "whom" and twelve in same verse below.

1 Kings 18:31
Elijah took twelve stones, according to number of tribes of sons of Jacob, unto whom word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

Whom for another blog.
Ezra 10:44
All these had taken "strange" wives: some of them had wives by "whom" they had children.
---Trav on 4/13/11


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Ah...Trav is trying to be intellectual again I see....
---Elder on 4/12/11

Nah...too much work for me and rare are intelligent responses,like your own. Easier just to let scripture deal wi/ya.
How about that "Whom" thing? 2 more out of 715.
Gen 49:8
Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies, thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
Exodus 23:27
I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to "whom" thou shalt come, I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.
Joshua 4:4
Then Joshua called the twelve men, "whom" he had prepared of the children of Israel, out of every tribe a man:
---Trav on 4/13/11


Ah...Trav is trying to be intellectual again I see....
---Elder on 4/12/11


Elder teaching: ... learn to divide the Scripture and see to whom and when it was written you may be able to make some correct judgements also.----Elder

Too Whom..you preach but, did not say.
Not knowing or U would have stated...to be the "Head Paca-Dermatitus" driver.

Psa33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is LORD, people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
Isa 44:1
Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant, and Israel, whom I have chosen:
Isa 49:3
said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
Romans 9:5
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Gal 5:15
But if ye bite and devour ...
---Trav on 4/9/11


When I was a kid, I was a "Pyro Maniac" and setting things on Fire was really thrilling!

I find Terry Jones' burning of the Koran to be childish and silly, yet I didn't expect that his simple act would cause such problems in Afghanistan.

We're dealing with people who are blinded by the Koran. It is part of a popular, but false, religion: Islam.

Just as the Bible teaches that we shouldn't offend others -- 1 Corinthians 8:13 -- I believe that we should show respect to Moslems. Win their friendship and try to lead them to Jesus Christ.
---Sag on 4/8/11


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I wouldn't call it judging, Trav, just an observation.

Isn't democracy wonderful!
---NurseRobert on 4/7/11

Yeah,it's "just" observation when you judge. Ha.
To lead you must have followers. You follow & pledge your allegiance to the obamanation,your messiah. I don't.

I pledge allegiance to a "REPUBLIC" not a form of socialism which is what your "take care of me,I can't", democracy is.

Hey, you found a verse in a bible...find nursebobbies in:
1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
---Trav on 4/8/11


Islam also believes that Jesus will come along side of their Mahdi ("the true Messiah").

How many times did Jesus say that if people claim "he is here" or "he is there" to NOT believe it?

For all we know the false prophet might *CLAIM* to be Jesus Christ returned. People who dont know Christ will be fooled.
---Jasheradan on 4/7/11


sabbathsister, go back and get you money back for that NIV. They either left out John chapter one or you really didn't read it all.
The Muslims accept Jesus as a great Prophet not as God, which He is. If you do the same you have more in common with Muslims than you do with Christians.
You will be judged by the same standards as they....
---Elder on 4/7/11


I wouldn't call it judging, Trav, just an observation. I don't see love from you for anything. Maybe that's what your church teaches you and, if that's the case, I feel sorry for you.

You also bring to mind Romans 1:22.

One other thing, unless you renounced your citizenship (I'm assuming you are an American citizen), he is YOUR leader too. Isn't democracy wonderful!
---NurseRobert on 4/7/11


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Just because burning the Koran is legal did not make it the right thing to do.

I love how you judge people.

- but you have no love in you.
---NurseRobert on 4/6/11

Ahhh...you do a little judging yourself above. I don't burn korans, but have no problem with it. See your acceptance of anything your afraid/awe of.

You won't see any love from me for abominations or promoter/upholders of. It is not a requirement.
One of many scriptures you bring to mind: Psalm 119:104
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

I pray for your leader's removal by the people and Congress with disgrace and shame he deserves. Of course that would mean America has repented. We'll see.
---Trav on 4/7/11


Just because one can strike a hornet's nest doesn't mean they should.
---Rod4Him on 4/7/11


Well Trav, since you did not understand what I wrote let me try to make it easy for you. Just because burning the Koran is legal did not make it the right thing to do. There, was that hard?

I love how you judge people. You call yourself a Christian - and I think you honestly believe what you spout - but you have no love in you. When I read your posts, I think about 1 Corinthians 13:1

I don't think you and Terry Jones are much different.

I will continue to pray for and support the President, just as I pray for you.
---NurseRobert on 4/6/11


sabbathsister is probably a member of the "Jesus only" better known as United Pentecostal Church.
---mima on 4/6/11


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sabbathsister...You judge those who believe in the Trinity. You can judge? But nobody else can? What denomination are you with?
---KarenD on 4/6/11


Really?? Thought the first amendment allowed us to speak freely. They had every right to do what they did. Unfortunately, people are arrogant enough to do stupid things with either no though or no regard of the consequences.
---NurseRobert on 4/2/11

You're a prime 1st amendment example. Uphold abominable leaders, while calling yourself christian. Burning an idiot false religions book was a stand statement.
OK with plowing unequally yoked,(plowing in circles)personally and politically...you've made your stand.
Matthew 25:33
He shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
---Trav on 4/6/11


Who was leading the event at Dove?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/6/11


Hi, Alan . . . I would say that even people who really are Christians can be led by Satan . . . like happened with Peter and "even Barnabas" > Galatians 2:11-13. But, in their case, Paul stood up to them effectively, I understand, and got it straightened out. This can be a big difference between ones false and ones who are with God > the ones with God can have others who will stand up to them and have the authority to stop them.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/5/11


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Bill ... You will know that some who consider themselves Christians, are sometimes led by Satan.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/5/11


Alan, you ask "who are Satan's people?" > by the Bible > Jesus says "he who does not believe is condemned already," in John 3:18, and Paul says, "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His," in Romans 8:9, plus, "But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, you are illegitimate and not sons." (Hebrews 12:7) So, if our Father does not correct Satan's people, I consider it's not our job to.

Nurse Robert > I'd say the Constitution is meant by God to uphold what is right, not to protect what is wrong. Even practically, free speech does not apply to giving information that can endanger security.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/5/11


The flesh profits NOTHING (per Jesus). If this Pastor knows the Word of God and considers all Muslims HIS enemies (I don't consider that at all, I try to love everyone and show them the love of Jesus) then Pastor Terry Jones should follow the word when it says, Love your enemies and pray for those who are lost.
What he did is DISPICABLE and I kind of hope God disciplines him and comes down hard on him for doing that. Where's the love of Jesus in such a hateful act?
---Donna5535 on 4/4/11


Enough, the mobs are responsible for their murders of U.N.staff and no one else. The Prince of Persia (Daniel 10:13) is at the root of that religion and these murders. Jones is irresponsible but no murderer.

The Gainesville pastor showed no biblical wisdom in his burning and needs to repent to God not us.
How do you expect Muslims to accept Christ as truth with such nonsense?
Further, he was totally inconsiderate of our kids patrolling the villages and hillsides in uniform.

As to the murders they are exhibit one in religious zealotry and Cluny is spot on.
---larry on 4/4/11


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Cluny is correct about the Koran teaches.
---mima on 4/4/11


\\2nd)Since I have read the quran they believe like us that Jesus came from God through a virgin birth, he was raised from the dead & will return. \\

Wrong.

Mahometans do NOT believe that Jesus was raised from the dead because they don't believe He really died. The Koran says this. And they certainly don't believe He is God Incarnate.

And they do not believe that Jesus will come as Judge, but rather to announce the return of Mahomet.
---Cluny on 4/4/11


Dove Outreach's demonstration against Islam is a common response mankind has against beliefs they oppose. They should not be singled out more so than others who do likewise in politics, etc.

Whilst their claim that Islam is of the devil is true it would be better to preach salvation through Jesus instead of their confrontational approach
---Haz27 on 4/3/11


Karen, it is a public school, and this girl is in another class,same grade so he hardly sees her. I teach my children to not judge others,only God does that.
2nd)Since I have read the quran they believe like us that Jesus came from God through a virgin birth, he was raised from the dead & will return.
3) however the differece is they believe he was chosen to be only a prophet.
I disagree being a chrisdtian,but i donot believe in the manmade idea of the trinity,so I know Jesus is GOds son, not God himself. i just spent 2hours in my NIV bible highlighting everything Jesus spoke of only, & he didnot say he was God, but the son of God. Donot judge my children because there are different religions in publicschool.
---sabbathsister on 4/3/11


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Sabbath Sister...Doesn't matter how good anyone is or what book they read. The Bible says that all those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior and repent are bound for the lake of fire. It troubles me that you are allowing your children to be friends with non-Christians who are influencing them greatly.
---KarenD on 4/3/11


We are told in the NT to give no offense to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the Church of God.

I would imagine that mahometans come under "Gentiles".
---Cluny on 4/3/11


Congratulations on your irresponsible actions that have caused the deaths of many people and more to follow. Aside from your constitutional rights to express yourself, I fail to see the purpose of this act. Could you explain this? I somehow think that any reasonable human would of seen the horrible outcome of this wanton act of total disregard for life, and intolerance for the expression of any views except your own. You now have your 15 minutes of fame at a cost.
---Rick_McL on 4/3/11


I think he has done a horrible thing. My son has schoolmates whom are muslims & they are not bad in general. infact all muslims i have spoken to are against the rebel people choosing to do the opposite of mulim meaning "peace be to God" .I have read the quaran & it is NOT viloence like this pastor speakes of. I am a chrisitan, but Jesus said to love your neighbors and love your enimies. It was an insult to burn the book just like if he burnt the NWT,Book of mormon,or hebrew bible jewish people use. It is their way of life. unfortunally given to freewill he can do it,but doesn't make it right.
---SabbathSister on 4/3/11


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Ones in authority were responsible to prevent that burning and publicity.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/2/11


Really?? Thought the first amendment allowed us to speak freely. They had every right to do what they did. Unfortunately, people are arrogant enough to do stupid things with either no though or no regard of the consequences.
---NurseRobert on 4/2/11


Bill ... Irt is not our job to control satans people.

In this case, who are Satan's people?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/2/11


Well, Al . . . first I understand that Christ's church is not responsible for judging what Satan's world does, going by Matthew 5:44, 1 Corinthians 5:12-13. Also, "No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4) So, also it is not our job to *control* Satanic people, I can see.

So . . . my opinion > the U.S. Constitution has its originally intended purpose and therefore its rightful interpretation. It does not mean we have the right to tempt people to discriminate and hurt people, by burning a Qur'an. Ones in authority were responsible to prevent that burning and publicity.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/2/11


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