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Purpose Of Testing Job

What was God's purpose in testing Job? Sinless perfection, or God revealing to Job who He, God was?

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The purpose of Job's testing was a test of his faith and if he passed the test a strengthening of his faith.

Satan is the accuser and claimed Job only served God because God blessed him. So these things were taken away and thus Job's faith in God was tested.

The Devil is a liar and accuser. Good ultimately triumphs over evil every time.

Without faith it is impossible to please God. Faith is more than just belief. It is trusting in God even when circumstances would dictate you to do otherwise.

Also, faith is not really faith until it has been tested. The same goes for love.
---poopsey on 4/9/11

Job can be read on many levels.
---Cluny on 4/2/11

I agree with ya.

Personally for me, Job suffered as example for Israel/us. We still read and discuss his example...even this day. Symbolic of Christs test of suffering/faith. His closest friends could not advise or help him. The allowed adversary of this world ,tested will and faith.
Job lost all dear to him. Yet was rewarded double for his endurance and prayer about his dummy friends....wisely perceived/understood enough to pray for.
James 5:11
Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord, that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
---Trav on 4/5/11

I find also a paralell between Job 29 and the young rich man in Mark 10.
There is a point made in Mark 10:21 "Then Jesus beholding him loved him,", the fact that Jesus loved him
gets underplayed. God loved Job also. Why shouldn't they? These men were doing what it was asked of them.

Job 31:5-6 "If I have walked with vanity, or if my foot hath hasted to deceit,
Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity."
I love these men, men of principle and integrity.
---Nana on 4/4/11

Something came to mind last night. Satan asked Jesus if he could sift Peter.

I can say one thing I learned of the most awesome value. I learned the complete and total faithfulness of God. No matter what, no matter how awful I felt, at times a rotten attitude, many times wanting to just give up, even thought of suicide, the Lord never left me or forsook me. I learned a Love beyond my wildest dreams.

I also learned the reality of OSAS in real life.
---kathr4453 on 4/4/11

I don't believe God was trying to turn him into a sinless man. He was already a righteous man(Job 1:1)..and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. The purpose must have been something else.

Possibly it was to push Job beyond himself, beyond his own reasoning and sense of justice. Job could see no reason for what was happening. His friends assumed it must be some evil Job had done, of which he could repent to get right with God again. Maybe God wanted Job in a place where he quit asking why and stopped looking at SELF or for somewhere to place blame. Perhaps God merely wanted him to reach the extreme unqualified faith that caused him to say (Job 19:25) Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him
---Donna66 on 4/4/11

\\What do you see?
---kathr4453 on 4/3/11\\

The Orthodox Church sees in Job a type of the innocent sufferings of Christ, which is why it's read during Holy Week.

It ends--in the Greek and Syriac versions, with a prophecy of the general Resurrection. "And it is written that he shall rise with those whom the Lord shall raise."

Some commentators say this is the first book of the OT to be written, and it was penned by Moses. This is something I don't stay up nights worrying about.
---Cluny on 4/3/11

satan was roaming to & fro & God ask him if he'd ever considered Job. satan said sure but the protective hedge God had around him limited what he could do to him. God removed the hedge because He knew Job loved Him above even his own life. satan's only limit was to spare Job's life. I feel certain that it was God's way of bragging on His child. Saying look satan, here's one that loves me no matter what you do! So take that & think on it for a few thousand years!:-) God also rewarded Job with more than he had before the test. We all get tested from time to time, of course not as sever as Job, but I'm certain it's because we can't be trusted to love God enough for that type of test.
---Reba on 4/4/11

Father's purpose in testing Job was the same as it is for any of His children. To bring up and out of us all that is within us for our own examination. And to give us the the privilege of recognizing, acknowledging and repenting of that which is not of Him, thus not conducive to who we are in HIm.
To humble us so that we might know what is in our heart, whether we will keep His commandment or not. That He might do us good in the end. Deu 8:2,16>Judges 2:22>3:4>1Ch 29:17>For "the LORD, search the heart, [He] test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings. Jer 17:10
---Josef on 4/3/11

Why should this be an either/or question, and only limited to these two alternatives, kathr?

Job can be read on many levels.
---Cluny on 4/2/11

Well OK Cluny, share IN LOVE what you see?

We can look at this from all sorts of perspectives. The friends of Job, certainly causes unnecessary anguish. Can we also gleen from that? Yes! Would deliverance ministers trying to cast out satan have over ruled God's plan and purpose? NO!

Did Job endure his trial? Yes. HOW? He had a mighty faith...without first being Born Again...

What do you see?
---kathr4453 on 4/3/11

"I don't feel OT saints were able to achieve sinless perfection without Christ in them, since the blood of bulls and goats could never take away sin, or make anyone perfect"

Were any of them sinless? Did any of them claim to be?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/3/11

What was God's purpose in testing Job? Wow!
Oh yea! I know, to see if he is righteous. Right!
But, that cant be?

What does the first line in the book for job say?
Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job, and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

And it talks a little about Job, doesnt it!
Asking for forgiveness, continually! Job 1:5
For all in the house!

Goes on to talk about a certain day when Satan Job 1:6.
Just so were clear on this: Job 1:8

Why do you think its always about man, instead of God?

The bulk of the book is about?
Heb 10:7!
---TheSeg on 4/3/11

//...> and so we can share in love, while having this discussion (c://

and to teach us the value of prayer for others.
---aka on 4/2/11

I don't feel OT saints were able to achieve sinless perfection without Christ in them, since the blood of bulls and goats could never take away sin, or make anyone perfect.

What I do love are those nuggets of revelation Job had and held on to while he was in this place,.

"I know that my redeemer liveth, and I shall come forth as Gold." He also believed in the resurrection.

I believe Job deep inside knew from those statements he made, that no matter what, God had a plan and purpose.
And in the end, what he thought He knew of God, was nothing to what he gained in the process...when he said NOW I SEE.

And YES, that fact that James uses Job as an exaple for us is totally awesome and COMFORTING.
---kathr4453 on 4/2/11

Why should this be an either/or question, and only limited to these two alternatives, kathr?

Job can be read on many levels.
---Cluny on 4/2/11

Not only one purpose, Katherine(?) . . . God is a multi-tasker much more than you may be! (c: His purposes include:
> not just "Sinless perfection", but a-l-s-o . . .
> "God revealing to Job who He, God was" . . . a-n-d
> to be our example of "perseverance", as James says: "Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord---that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful." (James 5:11)
> and be an example and testimony to his unfaithful wife (Job 2:9-10)
> and so we can share in love, while having this discussion (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/2/11

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