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Men Don't Like Church Potluck

Why do so many men on this site have a problem with the women of the church fixing meals (potluck) and having a dinner with the church family?

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ironically, jesus found it fitting to feed all those who came first physically and then spiritually. so, maybe we should blame jesus for the first potluck.
---aka on 4/18/11


Donna66, I find that the potluck dinners we have give me a chance to sit and talk with our pastor and others and speak about family and some of the needs of others or ask questions on the points made at the service about Scripture, maybe something you did not agree with.
As for the food, I really don't care to eat other people's food very much, unless the Spanish congregation eats with us, then I can eat Tamales, enchiladas, tacos, and Menudo. They bring all the good stuff that I love.
---Mark_V. on 4/18/11


Maybe they just want yet another reason to complain about the church. Those who complain about this usually have a whole list of other complaints as well.

Maybe they are too selfish to give the wife a break... to fix a single dish instead of a meal.
---Donna66 on 4/18/11


//men like their own wives cooking.//

whether it is good or not. 50% of the men are not fools.

There is little that is more pitiful than when a man HAS to eat the food that his wife prepares everyday when there is a bounty of other great looking dishes.

i have to admit, i do not know whether to respect those men or despise them.

Some potluck's turn into a competition and emotions fest.

//And I think most men are picky eaters.//

yes, anything that is in front of our face is 'pick-able'.
---aka on 4/16/11


Ginger, I have no problem with the women of the church getting together and making food for all brothers and sisters after services. It serves a good purpose to meet some of the other brothers/sisters we have not been close to. Getting to know each other and helping each other if the need is there. Church functions have great meaning. Of course this is done after Bible study and church services. There is many people like John and other who always want to look for things they can criticize, never about the good they do. Most of this guys don't go to Church and the reason they speak against them. Everything to them is bad. If you get up to go to the bathroom its bad, if the pastor stops to cough it's bad. Nothing is ever right for those guys.
---Mark_V. on 4/15/11




Hey! Whats in the Potato Salad???

Hmmm? There something wiggling in my soup Emma.
---John on 4/13/11


trish-- I had thought to mention such a case (of a multipurpose room) in my post, but then thought the idea might have been cumbersome to work in. John would have railed against that too.
---Donna66 on 4/8/11


\\I did see you copy and paste your posts on Purim from Google.\\

I knew about Purim for decades before I ever heard of you, and I never cut and pasted anything about Purim from Google or elsewhere on the 'net.

What I quoted about getting drunk on Purim was what I remembered from reading Herman Wouk's THIS IS MY GOD.

\\Now since you have no idea what Purim is, you should of asked your mentor. (Didn't know I saw that one. Did ya?)\\

Like I said, you did not see that.

And since a waste is a terrible thing to mind, I will say no more on this.
---Cluny on 4/8/11


Why CLuny! And you were my prize student!

I have been neglecting your teachings.

POINT OF FACT...

I did see you copy and paste your posts on Purim from Google. (Cheating?)

I should have said something.

Now since you have no idea what Purim is, you should of asked your mentor. (Didn't know I saw that one. Did ya?)

"A mind is a terrible thing to waste!"
---John on 4/8/11


Perhaps the people are trying to lose weight, so fixing big meals may not be so wise. Or perhaps the husbands want to spend some quality close time with their spouses, but they are not able to because the wives have chosen to be more busy with others than their own spouse. This is a common sin where members of a church neglect their own married spouse and substitute them with church functions. Or perhaps the men want to watch a ball game on TV instead. You should talk to the men and ask them why they do not care much for the church potlucks in order to know why they have a problem with it.
---Eloy on 4/8/11




"John, how can you teach when you clearly don't know anything?"
---Cluny on 4/7/11

Cluny I feel exactly the same way about you concerning things of the Spirit
---mima on 4/8/11


Ginger, men like their own wives cooking. And I think most men are picky eaters.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/11


You don't actually think you've taught ME anything, do you?

John, how can you teach when you clearly don't know anything?
---Cluny on 4/7/11

You're learning him.....there is always a value to that.

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: "pride", and "arrogancy", and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
---Trav on 4/8/11


\\Not insults, but teachings. I had to teach many (I.E. CraigA, Cluny, Donna66, Elder, Herb, Christan, others.)\\

You don't actually think you've taught ME anything, do you?

John, how can you teach when you clearly don't know anything?
---Cluny on 4/7/11


//The Baptist thanking G-d he's not like those churches and the other RCC/Ortho/Lutheran begging G-d for mercy.// John

Add prejudiced to that bitterness.

Matt 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

You remind me of my mother. Her bitterness is driving her farther away from God. It appears the same is happening to you.
---CraigA on 4/7/11


John-- I have worshipped in more Baptist Churches than I can count. But I grew up in liturgical churches, being educated in an Episcopalian school. I have many friends who are Roman Catholic and have attended many Catholic masses and other services.

I have met shallow, frivolous, people AND dedicated, reverent people in BOTH Baptist AND Roman Catholic Churches. I've known so many of each, that I don't judge them by their church any more, but by their relationship with Jesus. People of different temperaments and backgrounds often prefer different types of public and private worship. They don't have to like what I like. They are accountable to God, not to me.
---Donna66 on 4/6/11


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We are supposed to believe THAT ... after all the LIES you've told about OTHER churches?!
---Donna66

Then see for yourself! See the difference between cold blanch shallow Baptist/Evangelical sermon and the serious Liturgical services you see at these Churches.

You know how I disagree with some of their teachings, but they are very serious/dedicated. People of deep worship/reverence.

Its the parable of the two men praying(Luke 18:9-14)
one The Baptist thanking G-d he's not like those churches and the other RCC/Ortho/Lutheran begging G-d for mercy.

So they baptized babies, but will G-d look at the techniques as the Baptist evangelicals do? (AKA Todays Pharisees)

OR...

Does G-d look at the heart.
---John on 4/6/11


Donna: My church's sanctuary is actually a multipurpose room, and the chairs are not pews, but separate. When we plan a potluck, or tea, the tables are brought out and the chairs are put around them, and it becomes a fellowship hall with a place for the speaker and musical people to do their thing. So, in my church, we do have potlucks in the sanctuary, and teas as well.
---Trish on 4/6/11


Not insults, but teachings. I had to teach many (I.E. CraigA, Cluny, Donna66, Elder, Herb, Christan, others.)

In order to do this, I yell/shock to take people away from their false/comfortzone image of Christianity. Namely Loveyduffy(False Piety).

It's the reason the church is at the crisis its in(not respected). They seek the Approval of Men. So they Fake G-dliness. And they marry The World.

Remember...

WHEN YOU MARRY THE WORLD, YOU DIVORCE THE CHRIST!

Learning the truth is painful/causing resentment. Thus you see silly personal/envious remarks towards me.

If I taught like your Preachers, I would be like you and you would simply be sitting in you Bourgoise Comfort zone UNCHANGED.
---John on 4/6/11


Its obvious that John / JOHN / Pastor_Jim has some serious bitterness issues.

Just pray for him.
---CraigA on 4/6/11


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John,
what you said did not go over my head. It was not a parable either. Parables are for teaching not to throw insults at me or anyone else.
Fasting is not to be done as ceremony or for others to see. Havent you read the parable about the pharisee and the sinner?
It seems you have not.
Scripture tells us plainly to love one another, have fellowship, feed, clothe, and give what ever each other needs. That is the true love of Christ.
To love your neighbor and most certainly brothers and sisters as you love yourself.
We are to always place them before ourselves.
Fellowship includes good food for the fleshly man, along with the word of God, the food of the spirit man.
---ginger on 4/6/11


MMM mmmm mmmm. A potluck. Good food prepared by everyone - kids to grown-ups. Have been attending potlucks for the past fifty seven years: churches, friends, family, social clubs, chambers of commerce - you name it. I've travelled throughout all of North America and have had all kinds of vegetables and meat including chicken, beef, deer, bear, fish, rabit, and even snake and insects.

"Wherever two or more are gathered in my name, there shall I be," Jesus said. Places include but not limited were on top of mountains, in deserts, in parks, in homes, at churches, on boats, the beaches, on riverbanks, at campsites, at work.

OK, whose holding the next potluck.
---Steveng on 4/6/11


A lot of churches, not just Baptist, have potlucks from time to time. I've never attended a church potluck in the sanctuary of the church! This is NOBODY's "tradition".

John---Why would anyone believe you when you say
"If you attend an Orthodox/RCC Church, you will see people spiritual devoted to G-d in the utmost!"?

We are supposed to believe THAT ... after all the LIES you've told about OTHER churches?!
---Donna66 on 4/6/11


So how does eating and fellow-shipping with true believers, our brothers and sisters, pollute the church?
It does not because God does not live in a manmade building.
---ginger

Ginger what I said flew way above your head. It was Figurative(i.e.parable).

When Potluck becomes the CENTER of your worship. Then indeed it replaces the Lords Supper, Biblical Teachings and G-d Himself!

Unlike the secular chit-chat you dub "Fellowship"

Fellowship in Scripture Means... Meeting to plan and strategizing. It involves much prayer, teachings, Fasting and discussion on application of the Scripture in their movement.

Having Social meals was OUTSIDE of the Church

Do you understand the difference?
---John on 4/6/11


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EVERY Wednesday night we serve a small meal after the Family Night. We have programs for girls, boys, youth, women and men. We bus in kids for these programs. They would go to bed hungry if we didn't feed them. So, I don't care what John says about this subject. I'd rather feed a hungry child than listen to an unhappy man like John anyday.

alan....A "potluck" is when everybody brings a dish and we share the meal. Wonderful fellowship.
---KarenD on 4/6/11


John,
The Holy of Holies is not a building anymore.

You are the temple of God.
Paul- "Know ye not that YOU are the temple of the Lord!"

aka is right, Jesus split the veil.
The church is no longer a building.
It is the body of Christ, the believers.
So how does eating and fellow-shipping with true believers, our brothers and sisters, pollute the church?
It does not because God does not live in a man made building.
---ginger on 4/6/11


The church I attend has a meal every Wednesday evening.

There are about 180 members. About 50 show up for dinner, prayer and bible study. One-fourth of the congregation at prayer meeting? Unusual, I think. Probably because of dinner.

This past Wednesday there was a treat after dinner when my 4 year old son recited Psalm 96.

Then on Sunday he got a treat when one of the women commended him and gave him a choice between a Snicker bar and a Butterfinger
---James_L on 4/5/11


aka, please don't think I am upset with you because I am not.
I apologize if I said anything to make you think I was trying to paint what you said in a negative light. I do agree with most of what you said.

John, I am not sure what is going on with you brother but, it sure is not how a christian should act.

Cluny, great comments!!

There is nothing wrong with Christians enjoying each others company over a meal or otherwise. We are after all family according to the word of God. Brothers and sisters do have disagreements but we should love one another as God loves us.
---ginger on 4/5/11


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John:

Where do you get all this from? You frequently make wild (and inaccurate) accusations about one church or another. Do you have a personal axe to grind?

Church potlucks are fellowship - they are NOT a sacrament by anyone's standards.

While many churches a one to attend certain events, and some may even make some mandatory (e.g. Catholic weekly mass), I known of none (except weird cults) that excommunicate for non-attendance. If you can cite any specific examples, I would be glad to check them out.

As for the "bear meat story", I find ONE incident - bear burgers were served at a church BBQ in 1998. Of 22 attendees, 15 ate burgers, 7 got sick - hardly "the entire congregation".
---StrongAxe on 4/5/11


John-- Isn't it a sin to bear false witness?
---Donna66 on 4/5/11


\\WELL... ENJOY YOUR HOLY SACREMENT!
---John on 4/4/11\\

1. The word is spelled "sacrament".

2. What church holds bear sausage to be a sacrament? Be specific.

3. Do you even know what the word "sacrament" means?

4. This is a rather a typical example, don't you think?
---Cluny on 4/5/11


aka, how is calling it being done in God's name dangerous when it isn't?
The Bible says do ALL things unto the Lord.
We only have the dinner at special occasions and after bible study.
I believe that when Christians get together, it should always be to glorify God.
Don't you?
And I am not getting upset. Why do you always think that about me? It is something I am saying?
I also understand that you were addressing the blog question. Again, please read my posts.
I was only stating that I don't watch that stuff. I have nothing against anyone who does.
---ginger on 4/5/11


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ON THE SIDE...

Do you know what these Matriarchs are putting in the food you're eating?

If you did you would be calling Poison Control.

These Pious Church Ladies would put in anything (junk) they need to throw away.

Or put in artificial Sweeteners or other chemicals because of their ailments.

IN THE NEWS...

Idaho Potluck. A Church Lady made Bear Sausages from a Bear her husband just hunted in the wild.

The entire congregation came down with Trichinosis. No Cure!!!

WELL... ENJOY YOUR HOLY SACREMENT!
---John on 4/4/11


\\MISS IT AGAIN AND YOU'RE EXCOMMUNICATED.
\\

I don't know what planet you're from, John, but I've never seen this happen at ANYBODY'S Church.
---Cluny on 4/5/11


The scenario usually follows
this pattern...

YOU MISSED THE 1ST POTLUCK...
"We miss you at Yesterdays Potluck!"

YOU MISSED 2ND POTLUCK
Were you sick???. Emma made her best Ham!! Be sure you be there the next time!"

YOU MISSED 3rd POTLUCK...

Then "Pastor Almighty" calls you in his office. "Now John I know we are always busy, BUT you need to know the importance of Fellowship (He doesn't mean the Fellowship as described in Scripture. It's purely secular). Are you having any personal problems? for not attending???"

MISS IT AGAIN AND YOU'RE EXCOMMUNICATED.

In Traditional churches this scenario would only apply if you missed a series of Lords Supper. And rightly so!
---John on 4/4/11


the viel was torn in half. Jesus, the Holy of Holies (where Mary chose to be, Martha did not.)
- RCC/Orthodox does not have to cut any sermon short. they are scheduled. thus, putting the HS on notice and a short string.
-if fact, in RCC you can put off Sunday if you go on Saturday.
-the pigs go with their flesh whether there is food there or not...pigskin and pork rinds
-you should go to the sermons of the pastors that i know. 11:00 to ? they serve delicious sermons and the wives make great meals to follow. after that, they break for choir before another sermon at 3. did i mention the bible study at 10:00 before the sermon?-
RCC ... mass at 7:30, 9:00, or 10:30. sat evening if you want to sleep off Saturday's drinking.
---aka on 4/4/11


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HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE...

If you attend an Orthodox/RCC Church, you will see people spiritual devoted to G-d in the utmost!

In these churches the inner Hub of the wheel is G-d, The Church, The Sanctuary, The Holiness.

All non spiritual social activities are outside the inner hub (Holies of Holies). They lie on the spokes of the wheel. Here's where Christian have a Shared Meal, Play golf, have coffee and socialize. This is Honorable!

NOT THE BAPTIST TRADITION.

NO! The Potluck in inside the veil within the Holies or Holies, Sermons are very often cut short because the Potluck is ready. They forget the Eucharist for months but never the Potluck.
1-2 people attend Bible Study, but ALL(100s) attend the Pigfeast.
---John on 4/4/11


Getting back to your original question, ginger, I've never seen ANYONE here complain about having a parish dinner as such.

Who in particular were you thinking of?
---Cluny on 4/4/11


//NOTE THE NERVES I HIT WHEN I EXPOSED IT. //

are you saying that you are right because there are others that disagree with you?

i think the only thing you exposed is yourself.

//This cultic pagan practice appears to be innocent, but don't buy their scam. It's their "Most Sacred Eucharist".//

you sound like a JW now.
---aka on 4/4/11


I will give you a honest answer.

The reason is simple. It is about honesty and integrity.

Men who are not honest about their walk with God and are not honest about what they spend their time on, do not want to dine with people who MAY ask them about their walk with God. They are afraid the subject will come up and their lie found out.

If you were not serving Christ very well or lieing about it, would you want to dine with Christ?
---Mark_Eaton on 4/4/11


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perhaps, if you go on at length about Mrs. Goodcooks stew and say "Why can't you cook like that?"
---Donna66 on 4/4/11
YEP, that happens.
And if this man doe snot have second of his wife's stew at home, but has second at pot luck, he is in the dog house.

he is indirectly saying that she is a better cook
---francis on 4/4/11


I've been a Christian 49 years and have never experienced any of the nonsense to which you refer.
With all the issues we face to waddle around in this is good for head-shaking and not much else.
I hope the question was made in jest.
---larry on 4/4/11


//There are MANY christian women who get very angry if thier husband enjoys another woman's cooking. Woe be to that man if he gets seconds at church pot luck.//

Francis-- Where on earth do you live? I've never met a woman who cares. Most are just happy the ole grouch is full and not complaining...
unless.. perhaps, if you go on at length about Mrs. Goodcooks stew and say "Why can't you cook like that?"
---Donna66 on 4/4/11


Donna 66 ... Thanks for the definition of a potluck

Interestingly, we in the UK woould call that an "American Supper" where everyone brings long something to contribute

It seems a most sensible way of socialising for an evening, with some eats thrown inm and no-one has the burden of providing all the food.

Super idea!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/4/11


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Why do so many men on this site have a problem with the women of the church fixing meals (potluck) and having a dinner with the church family?

2 reasons:
1: Because a hard working man wants a meal he can enjoy, not the luck of what may or may not be in the pot.

2: There are MANY christian women who get very angry if thier husband enjoys another woman's cooking. Woe be to that man if he gets seconds at church pot luck.

Women just do not like thier men to enjoy other women's cooking. So to avoid a fight in the car on the way home, the men just have water
---francis on 4/4/11


In Proverbs 15:18, angry folks are the ones who "Stir Up Strife". I didn't intend to be one of those folks. Just share my one-time experience of a New Year's Eve party potluck at a Baptist church. Maybe MY comments were WHY I felt treated like an outcast.

Former Baptist friends of mine were ALWAYS complaining about EVERYTHING at the potluck:

Bill Clinton, Democrats, American History, Gays In The Military, Working Mothers, Daycare Costs, etc.

I told everyone that GOD would prefer that we have a "peaceful time of fellowhip", instead of a "bitter time of gossip, backbiting, and complaining".

Well, the entire potluck dinner room went SILENT after I said that. Not sure why.
---Sag on 4/4/11


\\Like the RCC Worshipping of Mary, These churches have a sacred pagan ritual of their own. NOTE THE NERVES I HIT WHEN I EXPOSED IT. \\

Other than the fact that Roman Catholics don't worship Mary, and the Eucharist has nothing to do with either parish potlucks or the Mithraic shared meal, you're right on target, John.
---Cluny on 4/4/11


alan of UK-- a "potluck" is simply a meal where everyone brings a dish of some sort...meat, vegetable side-dish, salad, desert, bread...whatever they want, and people enjoy them together.

It's not necessarily a "church" thing. All sorts of groups do this.
---Donna66 on 4/4/11


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Alan, I explained this was an American Phenomena and not even a Brit would understand it. I had to delete that due to the 125ltd.

This is the dark secret the Baptists(Evangelical/Grace etc)don't want you to know.

Like the RCC Worshipping of Mary, These churches have a sacred pagan ritual of their own. NOTE THE NERVES I HIT WHEN I EXPOSED IT.

They will deceptively say... "Gee! what's wrong with Christians having a meal together" DAH!

So exposed, that these "Purveyors of Sola Sciptura" are desperately changing the name to:"Shared Meal". This cultic pagan practice appears to be innocent, but don't buy their scam. It's their "Most Sacred Eucharist".
---John on 4/4/11


John, Speak for YOURSELF!
I've never been "ostracized" for failing to attend a potluck in a Baptist Church. NEVER. It's not a "social club" where I attend...in fact, potlucks don't even happen very often.
It is Christian folks enjoying a meal and each other.
There is ABSOLUTELY no relationship between the Holy EUCHARIST and a potluck...your lack of respect for the Lord's Supper is sickening.
If you are so bigoted and "Baptiphobic" (Hey, if Muslims can make-up words, so can I) It amazes me you were EVER invited to a potluck in the first place! (You should have choked to death on rubberized jello salad)
blessings.
---Donna66 on 4/3/11


//I never said my church's discussion was ever about that. Please read my posts.// ginger, i was addressing the question...not your church. i was speaking in very general terms.

//I am not sure what kind of churches others go to but mine is not like what you, sag and other people say that they have been to.//

this is the third blog question that you keep grouping me with others and making assumptions despite what i say. i did not even address any bad experiences with any church on here. i have always said, go where God can use you best.

if you want others to read your posts, then you read theirs with sincerity of the heart. if you don't have that, i don't care if you talk about God only, He is not among you.
---aka on 4/3/11


john, since i have truly come to know the Lord, i have attended five different churches for different circumstances. they were all baptist or psuedo-baptist, and what you say is not true.

btw - i am not baptist. but, they invited me, were the most hospitable, and they would love to see me again.
---aka on 4/3/11


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Re: my last post to John.

John is an example of a petty Christian with a cruel streak, totally unfair to "Baptists" who are quite a varied group (in their way of celebrating the the Lord's Supper as well as their social activities). I meant to criticize him harshly.....but...but, I guess I just couldn't convince myself somebody could get so seriously worked up over...a "potluck".
---Donna66 on 4/3/11


I seem to recall somewhere in the bible that Jesus ate with His disciples, and even ate with several thousand who came to hear Him talk.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/4/11


John ... I don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about!

First, I have no idea what "potluck" is.

second, I am not a Baptist

Third, my church congregation often meets for a meal

Fourth, no-one minds if we don't attend

You and I must live in different worlds. I'm sad that yours has so much negativity and condemnaton in it
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/4/11


What's wrong with Christians eating together? (Alan)

HERE'S WHAT'S WRONG...

Potluck- AKA: the "BAPTIST EUCHARIST".

WHY???

Because it's the MOST Sacred part of their churches. 2/3 of their budget goes to this gluttony.

If you don't attend the Lords Supper, ABSOLUTELY NO one cares. They wouldn't even notice.

BUT! If you don't attend Potluck, you're a heretic/ostracized. You're an outcast/no longer a member of that Social Club.

NOT the same as in Clunys church. In Cluny's church it is just as you say, Christian folks socializing.

In the Evangelicals/Baptist it means THE HOLY EUCHARIST.

Of course they will deny it, but try not going to one and see who befriends you after.
---John on 4/3/11


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Candace-- I think many churches who have mid-week services do as your church does. With two parents working and children in school, as is so common these days, it saves time if the family can have their evening meal at church when there is an evening service.

The early Christians "broke bread" together, surely modern believers can do the same. To those who complain about how much others seem to eat at these meals...
I'm still looking for a respectful way to say "mind your own business". I'm of the same opinion when it comes to conversation. The church is in no way defiled if other than "spiritual" conversations take place there.
---Donna66 on 4/3/11


Francis--the hard-working man needs to lighten up and appreciate what is cooked once in a while--or cook it himself lol
---Mary on 4/3/11


Never attended a church where the men didn't love pot lucks. Also, don't remember any discussion about this subject until this question.
---KarenD on 4/3/11


My Dad didn't like church dinners (potluck or dinner on the ground as it was called in those days). The reason - some women were not good cooks. My mother was such a good cook that folks would go to her food first and sometimes there wasn't any left for Dad. He thought they ought to eat their own wives food. LOL
Mom always pointed out to us whose food was safe to eat. Not every one is clean or brings fresh food.
---Senior_Citizen on 4/3/11


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aka, I understand that point of view, but I never said my church's discussion was ever about that. Please read my posts.
All of our gathering are to edify each other and to lift up God.
What bothers me is all the assumptions. It is not right and it certainly is not Christ like.
As for all the gossip, and back biting, I've seen men do it but I don't say all men are like that because they are not.
That would be like me saying all men on this site are mean when truly I know they are not.
I am not sure what kind of churches others go to but mine is not like what you, sag and other people say that they have been to.
For the record, I don't watch desperate housewives or stuff like that. It is full of stuff I just don't want to see.
---ginger on 4/3/11


eating meals at church s not bad. We have ours on wednesday evenings before biblestudy where my husband attends.
---candice on 4/3/11


ginger,

i don't believe that any man minds a good meal. but, there are a few people (men and women) who are uncomfortable putting God's stamp of fellowship on a gathering when the topics of discussion are about the 'neighborhood' of Wysteria Lane and the NFL. (everybody, it is just one example in hyperbole. don't get upset if you do not like Desperate Housewives o the NFL.)

If it is a social gathering, so be it, but to call most of them a gathering in God's name is very dangerous.
---aka on 4/3/11


sag, i do not belong to the Catholic Church anymore. neither do i protest the church. for that, i am not Protestant.

when i was younger, i was blessed by the ability to collect food from grocery stores before they threw food away. this was to bring food to the shelters (battered women and children at the time). the stores would only part with the refuse. however, my relationship with them was not based on their perfection.

Go where God can use you the best. if my decision to believe in a catholic assembly (that is not Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant) results in eternal separation from the Father, then it has to be that way. but, i can only do what i know and have faith and hope in Christ Jesus for the things i do not.
---aka on 4/3/11


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John, what does Martha and Mary have to do with this?
Nothing.
I said we studied before we ate.
Just as Jesus told Martha that she would do well to be as Mary and sit at Jesus' feet to learn.
Feed the spirit then feed the flesh.
not all church women are like what you say they are.

I know quite a bit about the word of God, just cause I am a woman does not mean I am ignorant.
Why can't you discuss this issue like a Christian man should, instead of insulting us women?

Amen Alan, there is nothing wrong with fellow-shipping with your Christian brothers and sisters. We are told to do just that.
---ginger on 4/3/11


Why do so many men on this site have a problem with the women of the church fixing meals (potluck) and having a dinner with the church family?

2 reasons:
1: Because a hard working man wants a meal he can enjoy, not the luck of what may or may not be in the pot.

2: There are MANY christian women who get very angry if thier husband enjoys another woman's cooking. Woe be to that man if he gets seconds at church pot luck.
---francis on 4/3/11


What is wrong with Christians eating together?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/3/11


Sag has a history of churches where he is mistreated. If he ever finds one he likes...I'll know the end is at hand!
---Donna66 on 4/2/11

I've only experienced mistreatment at Protestant churches. I made the Big Mistake, or Sin, of leaving the Catholic church.

Now I'm back in the church where I was raised. The ONE true church. The Roman Catholic Church.

God has graciously forgiven me for my spiritual disobedience and wayward trek.

Except for Weddings, and Funerals, there are NO meals or potlucks at my Catholic church. I'm OK with that.
---Sag on 4/2/11


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Ginger, there were two woman in Scripture you need to pay attention to. Mary and Martha.

Martha is the Mother of all Church Ladies. Those preoccupied with Making "Sacred" Potluck mush, than caring about the Lord teachings.
FAKE CARNAL PSEUDO DEADHEADS.

Mary is the true woman of scripture spending as much time as she could in Bible Study/learning The Word. THE TRUE CHRISTIAN WOMAN.

It was the lesson Jesus taught in that Scripture.

When he chastises Martha for complaining to Him that Mary was not helping in the kitchen, but wasting her time in His bible study.

Jesus tells her what's really important and what's not.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE VERSE SINCE YOU NEVER READ THE BOOK. IT'S Luke 10:38-42.
---John on 4/2/11


Sag has a history of choosing churches where he is mistreated. If he ever finds one he likes...I'll know the end is at hand!
---Donna66 on 4/2/11


Sag, I'm truly sorry that happened to you.
But it doesn't give you or any other man grounds to say all Christian "potluck" is like that.

I've seen you and many other men on here condemn us women for it. Not trying to be mean but thats not Godly.
You wouldn't tollerate us women doing that.
You would give correction for it.

At my church, we have it every wednesday night after bible study. Its to feed the fleshly body after the spiritual one has been feed.
We use it to edify each other and talk about any issues that may be going on and even discuss bible study.

Again I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. Maybe you should try a different church but please don't fit us all under the same umbrella.
---ginger on 4/2/11


Who do you mean in particular, ginger?

I don't see anybody who does.

I know that in my church, there are frequently meals after Sunday Divine Liturgy.

I know another where the coffee pot is fired up after every service, even Wednesday Vespers.

And others delight to have a big meal after ever Sunday Divine Liturgy, and nobody is in a hurry to leave.
---Cluny on 4/2/11


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Hi, sorry your experience was bad Sag :(
---Mary on 4/2/11


I don't have a problem with fellowship. If that is the true purpose of a church potluck. Friends are valued for WHO they are and conversation is CONSTRUCTIVE.

However, it often seems -- maybe I'm just dreaming now -- that the real purpose is Gluttony or Eating MORE than is necessary for daily living.

The last time that I attended a church potluck was for a New Year's Eve party at a Baptist church. As soon as I revealed that I attended a Catholic church, I seemed to be an unwelcome enemy soldier. Not very loving or Christ-Like.

I have never attended a church potluck since.
---Sag on 4/2/11


Sometimes men have many problems when it comes to their woman doing something for someone else. Is he a member of this church? Is he a christian? If he is a christian he should understand why fellowshipping with the church family is so important. If he does not understand this, something is wrong with his faith and his beliefs. This is kind of a new problem to me. Even though this is not uncommon.
---Robyn on 4/2/11


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