Trav, I agree with what you have said on your last post. In the case of 1 Cor. 15:35-58 the four responses he gave or 4 sets of contrasts to show how the new body will differ from the present ones (v.54: Phil. 3:20,21) 1. no more sickness and death (corruption), 2. no more shame because of sin (dishonor), 3. no more frailty in temptation (weakness), 4. no more limits to the time/space sphere (natural). Some in the church did not know God and were a corrupting influence, but not for those who hoped for life in God's presence. They had the Truth but shamefully did not believe and follow it ( 2 Cor. 13:5). Thus these questions did not reflect a genuine interest in the resurrection but were mocking taunts, by those who denied the resurrection.
---Mark_V. on 4/7/11|
If we are all of the same spirit, the Holy Spirit, why do we all have different interpretations of scriptures?
---Donna5535 on 4/5/11
Because so many use the Bible as the final authorithy, yet the Bible does not say that. In fact the Bible says "the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth." (1 tim 3:15)
---Ruben on 4/6/11|
-Donna5535: A good questin about different interpretations....
And one that I cannot answer
The only things I will say is that is likely the reason why we were told to gather into the Church (so that any error of one could be corrected, and any good teaching/idea of another would be passed on to the others) and is also the reason why we have so many denominations (not good, of course, but evidence of more differences than are good for us, and possibly also of out lack of others who think differently)
---Peter on 4/6/11|
If we are all of the same spirit, the Holy Spirit, why do we all have different interpretations of scriptures? ---Donna5535 on 4/5/11
Most seekers of truth would be in agreement on every scripture discussed if multiple scriptural witness/precepts testifying were applied. Prophets/Apostles/Christ.
But,still some can not see, will not see.....were never meant to see to begin with.
Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not, they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Matt13:14 in them is fulfilled prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand,seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
---Trav on 4/6/11|
If we are all of the same spirit, the Holy Spirit, why do we all have different interpretations of scriptures? What does "no weapon formed against you shall prosper" mean to you? Why do some churches operate in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and some downright just don't even believe in them. How can these things be?
---Donna5535 on 4/5/11|
You can see good examples of this when I answer Cluny.
---John on 4/5/11|
In this blog site, as most people are FAR too likely to take anything they don't agree with to be 'foolish' or 'rigged', I have to say - always check your ideas about foolish
---Mary on 4/5/11|
we are responsible for telling the Truth in deed and action.
...but, i have to say that following some of these threads has made me learn a lot more scripture....
---aka on 4/2/11
Me too. The search.
Truth...found or pointed too is exciting,strengthing. Truth is all.....
Provoking one to truth....Is he better for the provocation? Provoke me anytime to my/our benefit in scripture.
For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me, yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
---Trav on 4/5/11|
I agree with ShawnMT - respond to people with only scriptures.
Someone called me at work one day in August 2007 and asked me point blank, "Why did God kill Dwight?"
Needless to say my feathers got ruffled because she was blaming God for this man taking a massive heart attack and dying 2 weeks before his wedding after living in sin for 7 years with his g/f and he was a Quaker.
I stayed calm and all I said to her was: God didn't kill Dwight. Jesus said, "The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy" and in the very next scripture, Jesus said: "I came that they may have life and life abundantly."
There was dead silence on that phone. What could she say? NOTHING!
---Donna5535 on 4/4/11|
Hi, Cluny (c: Mostly, I was impressed, one time, to see how Paul was so generous and helpful in answering someone "foolish". There are people who think they are too good for answering to foolish people and wrong people. Possibly, they don't have hope for certain people, but love "hopes all things" (1 Corinthians 13:7). Paul, so great an Apostle, is not conceited so he can't share with and try to help a "foolish" person (c:
And Jesus, as great as He is, did not get into a huff about answering even to ones He knew were hypocrites. Jesus is so unconceited, that He even talks with Satan, and He always says what can be good and can help someone who is wrong - - so God can use this, as He is able (Isaiah 55:11).
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/3/11|
"Is Paul therefore in danger of hell fire? If the teachings of Jesus conflict with the teachings of Paul, which one should we believe?" - This is the definition of foolishness.
How is Paul's teaching in conflict with Christ when Paul was struck down by Jesus on his way to Damascus and was converted? Even to be told by the Savior,
"But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake."
A chosen vessel of God does not lie or contradict.
---christan on 4/3/11|
Deu 32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? (Moses)
1Sam 13:13a And Samuel said to Saul, Thou hast done foolishly:
Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh.
Psa 75:4 I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked, Lift not up the horn: (Asaph)
Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart. (Solomon)
1Cor 15:36 [Thou] fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: (Paul)
---micha9344 on 4/3/11|
you have hit on a very important aspect of the winnowing fork. if people want to make doctrine or argue debates in English only, they are making a huge mistake. especially today...if one has a computer, there is no excuse. concordance is there, and it is free.
jerry and others,
if you want to stick with English only, David and Solomon use variations of fool over twice as much as Paul.
---aka on 4/3/11|
2 TIMOTHY 2,23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
2 TIMOTHY 2:24 And a sevant of the LORD must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient.
2 TIMOTHY 2:25 In humilily correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth.
---RICHARDC on 4/3/11|
Whomever calls "fool" or "foolish" is setting himself as an Authority over those he called so. You are at the head of the class, even teaching the class..., hopefully you know what you are doing and are entittled.
---Nana on 4/3/11|
Mat 5:22 .... whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Is Paul therefore in danger of hell fire?
If the teachings of Jesus conflict with the teachings of Paul, which one should we believe?
---jerry6593 on 4/3/11|
That is not an example that I would follow. He started the answer with "Thou fool," Jesus said "whosoever shall say, Thou fool, [when addressing someone] shall be in danger of hell fire." Although I know that Jesus used the word "moros" which means "impious or godless" as opposed to the word "aphron," used by Paul, which means "without reason or stupid", I do not deem myself qualified to address anyone, either way.
Also I have never heard a "foolish" question. "The heart of the righteous studies how to answer" rigged or otherwise and allows his or her speech to "always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that [they] may know how [they] should answer."
---joseph on 4/3/11|
we are responsible for telling the Truth in deed and action. We are nor responsible for arguing a mis-truth and getting side tracked into nebulous debates. they are endless by design.
but, i have to say that following some of these threads has made me learn a lot more scripture and identify the true bottom line of a rigged question.
---aka on 4/2/11|
Are you talking about on these blogs in particular?
---Cluny on 4/2/11|
To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?
Brethren, Know that "People only see what they are prepared to see." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson..... So answer intelligently with just the Word of God, even to unintelligent questions !!!
---Shawn.M.T on 4/2/11|