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Scripture, teaches how the SERVANTS of SATAN will infiltrate Churches, MASQUERADING as being of GOD, (ie) 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. These people are eternally condemned to HELL! Are the people in such Churches who continually support and defend these people also condemned, Romans 1:18-32?

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 ---Rob on 4/3/11
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Rob, remember Jesus said MY sheep hear MY voice and the voice of a stranger they will NOT follow.
Plus, satan doesn't announce here I am, I've come to deceive you. He works very subtly and cunningly.
---Donna5535 on 4/4/11

Jeremiah 23:1
Woe be unto pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
John 10:8
All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

"His Sheep" don't follow Duplantis,Roberson,Hinn,Haggeeetc,etc,etc,etc,etc....either.
---Trav on 4/5/11

When the blind lead the blind, then both will fall into the ditch.
---Eloy on 4/5/11

Yes, Donna . . . in case this is what you mean > it is not enough to be able to spot who is a false teacher who is a human. We need to be able to see however Satan would try to get false things going *in* us ourselves, and how we ourselves can be false and fooling our own selves. Or I have indeed failed very greatly, y-e-s!!! if all I can do is see how others are false. "And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment." (Philippians 1:9) In God's love we have His light to see however Satan would have us thinking, feeling, deciding whatever is not in God's love. We can fool our own selves and not even know it!
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/5/11

Rob, remember Jesus said MY sheep hear MY voice and the voice of a stranger they will NOT follow.

Also, what Bill said: Jesus will not lead us to follow false leaders." Is true, but Bill failed to continue his statement with, "be alert, your adversary the devil prowls about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour."

Eve got deceived while walking in the light, while still in fellowship with God. "Hath God really said" really tripped her up, right?

Plus, satan doesn't announce here I am, I've come to deceive you. He works very subtly and cunningly.
---Donna5535 on 4/4/11

If we are obeying how our Shepherd leads us and takes care of us . . . Jesus will not lead us to follow false leaders. 1 Timothy 3:1-10 shows who is qualfied to "take care of the church of God". "Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account." (in Hebrews 13:17) Jesus says His "sheep" "know his voice"(John 10:1-30). Even we "sheep" have senses (Hebrews 5:13-14) of God's love (Philippians 1:9), so we can *smell* the difference between a good pastor versus a wolf in fancy religious clothing or other religious show. 1 Corinthians 11:19 to me means that even Christians in Corinth could be expected to tell the difference.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/3/11

No one is condemned in ignorance. In the words Jesus expressed to the Pharisees "If you were blind, you would have no sin." Therefore I would say that if those partitioners follow that leader in ignorance, though they will both fall into a ditch, it is the leader, I would think, that will be held the most accountable. Luk 11:52>Eze 13:18-21 However we are warned to "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins." But if one does not recognize the her or the errors, for what ever reason, the warning is meaningless. Rob if there is one thing that the faithful can be sure of, Father will guard the heart and minds of His own, and "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,"
---Josef on 4/3/11

But Rob, what's your objective standard for who's a false teacher?

Even saying, "The Bible," is still subjective, because we all understand it in different ways.

\\These people are eternally condemned to HELL!\\

Why Rob, you mean that you don't believe in OSAS, and the "sinner's prayer" is sufficient unto salvation?

Many people here will consider you a false teacher if you don't believe this.
---Cluny on 4/3/11

most likely if there is no change, but not necessarily.

continually shoving this stuff in your sister's face without giving the Spirit space or time might be to your destruction but not hers.

i hope you pray for her a lot more than you use your arguments.
---aka on 4/3/11

JOHN 10:27 My sheep hear my Voice,and I know them, and they follow me.

JOHN 10:28 And I give them enternal life, and the shall never perish, neither shall anyone snatch them out of my hand.
---RICHARDC on 4/3/11

Everyone has the ability to realize that there is a creator.

Romans 1:19. "For what can be known about God is plain to them".

Not everyone has access to the gospel that identifies the savior, but everyone DOES HAVE the 'God seed' inside.

Only the truly heartbroken ("poor in spirit") and sincere will be able to find that "seed" because they are anxious to PAY HOMAGE to (honor) The Lord. When they find the seed, "the anointing" takes place (1 John 2:27), but those who are neglectful will be misled by the MODERN DAY pharisees.

Matthew 23:15 Jesus said to the pharisees...
"you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves".
---more_excellent_way on 4/3/11

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