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False Spirit Experience

What experience have you had with false spirits since you became a Christian?

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 ---mima on 4/11/11
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We discern the false spirits by the Truth of the Holy Spirit. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God, because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, because they have no light in them."
---Eloy on 4/19/11


p, I suggest that you read the Holy Bible. Every false spirit is a liar, and the opposite of the truth. A false spirit commonly adds to the ruth or subtracts from the truth thereby distorting it and in order to lead souls astray into condemnation and down into perdition and destruction.
---Eloy on 4/19/11


Eloy ... A spirit has a personality, or similar, A doctrine is not a person, nor a spirit. It may have been spirits fromkthe deep that introduced the doctrines but the doctrines are not spirits.

And I am not a pendant, but ..
---p on 4/19/11


clunyu, Again, do not ask of me until you are ready to accept the truth.
---Eloy on 4/18/11


\\pendant, they are spirits from the pit.
---Eloy on 4/18/11\\

So you are saying that spirits from the pit spoke through Jesus?

i've always said you've confused yourself with Him.
---Cluny on 4/18/11




steveng-- the "sinners prayer" is so common and simple that many of the same words, even phrases, are bound to be used regardless of who prays it.
The important thing is faith and heartfelt repentance, not how the prayer is worded.
---Donna66 on 4/18/11


pendant, they are spirits from the pit.
---Eloy on 4/18/11


\\Do I understand you properly, mima?
---Cluny on 4/16/11\\

Let me correct this question to read,

Do I understand you properly, ELOY?

(And sincerely ask mima's pardon.)
---Cluny on 4/16/11


\\1) God loves the world \\

So, Jesus was speaking with a false spirit when He said, "For God SO LOVED THE WORLD, that He gave His only Son...."

\\20) People should not judge\\

Was it the same or a different false spirit that led Jesus to say, "Judge not that you be not judged"?

Do I understand you properly, mima?
---Cluny on 4/16/11


Eloy ... However right or false they might be those are doctrines not spirits
---Pedant on 4/16/11




Some famous false spirits are:

1) God loves the world
2) God loves sinners
3) There is no hell
4) All go to heaven
5) All are good
6) All have sin
7) No one is perfect
8) The saint is the sinner
9) The sheep is the goat
10) Do-nothings are saved
11) Gods love is unconditional
12) Nonrepenters are forgiven
13) Works are unnecessary for salvation
14) Baptism is unnecessary for salvation
15) Tithing is Gods law
16) Seed-sowing is paying money
17) The old testament commandments are binding
18) Jews are Gods chosen, and better than nonJews
19) All faiths are the same, and worship the same God
20) People should not judge
---Eloy on 4/16/11


Donna66: "The "sinners prayer" is not any set prayer, never memorized that I know of, and surely not repeated over and over as that would be quite unnecessary."

I traveled throughout North America and have witnessed hundreds of "christians" reciting "the sinner's prayer" as though everyone have a carbon copy of it in their pocket or purse.
---Steveng on 4/15/11


As I've said before, comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable.
---Cluny on 4/14/11

Priceless.
You topped my day off here...with that one.

Psalm 18:27
For thou wilt save the afflicted people, but wilt bring down high looks.
Psalm 94:5
They break in pieces thy people, O LORD, and afflict thine heritage.
---Trav on 4/15/11


\\Gentlemen, as I read your criticism of me(and a harsh criticism it is) I'm finding things out about myself that I did not know.\\

Thank you, mima.

All I'm trying to do is to get you (and others) to think.

As I've said before, comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable.
---Cluny on 4/14/11


steveng-- The "sinners prayer" is not any set prayer, never memorized that I know of, and surely not repeated over and over as that would be quite unnecessary.

You are correct that a person is truly saved when they have a heartfelt repentance of their sins. It doesn't matter what words they use to express their repentance to the Lord. Whatever form their verbal repentance takes,
it is called the "sinners prayer".

It is not wrong to help a sinner give voice to his sincere prayer. What you are thinking of is a prayer fed to a person, word for word, often wrongly believed to produce salvation simply by it's recitation.
---Donna66 on 4/14/11


"I read your criticism of me(and a harsh criticism it is)" (mima)

They are no more harsh than your nasty comments towards Roman Catholics or the Roman Catholic Church on this site.

Romans 10:13, Acts 2:21, and Joel 2:32 does not mention any Sinner's Prayer.

Can you find me where the phrase "sinner's prayer" is found in Bible?

Our Lord say that not anyone who calls upon the Lord will be saved (Matthew 7:21-23), but only those who do the will of God. Saint Paul writings confirms that salvation is more than just a verbal confession of faith. One needs to continue believing and obeying the Gospel.

You do not take Scriptures as whole. You just cherry pick Scriptures.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/13/11


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Mary: "I just don't have a problem with the sinner's prayer because it's just words of accepting Jesus, how do you feel we should accept Him?"

That's all the "sinner's pray" is - nothing but words. Something that is memorized. Something that is repeated over and over again and scriptures tells us the vanity of repeated words.

A true prayer is communicating with God from the heart not from a script. A person is truly saved when they have a heartfelt repentance of their sins.
---Steveng on 4/13/11


mima: "When in reality all a sinners prayer is is calling on the name of the Lord for one's salvation."

Remember these word written in scripture? "Just because you say Lord, Lord..."

As for the criticisms, just let it roll off yourself like water on a duck. If you are a true christian, the criticisms are not against you, but against the Lord. So, just let it go.
---Steveng on 4/13/11


mima,
I know you have to remember when I answered you concerning Romans 10:13

Remember, it took 3 posts to answer you. And do you remember what your reply was to me? "That's too heady for me."

It's too heady for you to understand that Romans 10 is talking about our inheritance, but it's not too heady to ponder how Jesus could have been super-imposed into Mary's womb as a fetus with a different kind of human nature???


If you want to use one ambiguous verse to support the sinner's prayer, why do you reject a less ambiguous verse which says "Baptism now saves you" (1Peter 3:21)

Show one verse anywhere in either Testament where someone was instructed to say a "prayer of salvation"
---James_L on 4/13/11


Cluny and Ignatius,
Gentlemen, as I read your criticism of me(and a harsh criticism it is) I'm finding things out about myself that I did not know. Nevertheless I would ask you to consider, Romans 10:13, Acts 2:21, and Joel 2:32 and then tell me that there is no such thing as a sinner's prayer being described here. When in reality all a sinners prayer is is calling on the name of the Lord for one's salvation.
---mima on 4/13/11


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\\ I just don't have a problem with the sinner's prayer because it's just words of accepting Jesus, how do you feel we should accept Him?\\

Mary, where does the Bible use the fomula "accept Jesus"?

Please give book, chapter, and verse.
---Cluny on 4/13/11


Mary,

Unlike Mima's false Gospel, the Bible teach that salvation isn't based upon a past moment of confession. It is a past event (Ephesians 2:8), an event currently active (Philippians 2:12), and a future event (1 Peter 1:5).

One hear the Gospel (Rom 10:17), believe the Gospel (Acts 2:38a), repent (ibid, Acts 16:31), obey the Gospel (James 1:22), receive Water Baptism (ibid, Mark 16:16, etc), receive Christmation ("laying on the hands"), and strive to reach theosis, by the Grace of Jesus Christ. Salvation is a journey.

None of the Apostles ever told one to repeat a sinner's prayer. It's not in the Bible. I can't find the phrase "the sinner's prayer" any where in my KJB. Can you?

In IC.XC.,
---IgnatiusR on 4/13/11


\\ He remains a big influence in Christianity today. His name is Sid Roth,
---mima on 4/12/11\\

BTW, mima.

Who is Sid Roth?

I've never heard of him before.

And if someone who can say a "sinner's prayer" without faith in Jesus and yet have a big influence in what you call "Christianity," mima, we clearly do NOT believe the same things.
---Cluny on 4/13/11


Something to think about.

Acts 2--when Peter preached at Pentecost, did he say anything about a "sinner's prayer"? No, but he did talk about WATER baptism.

When Philip met the Ethiopian eunuch who asked for WATER baptism, did Philip say anything about the sinner's prayer?

When Peter met with Cornelius, did he say anything about the sinner's prayer? However, he DID talk about water baptism.

When Paul and Silas baptized with water the Philippian jailer, was a sinner's prayer mentioned as a pre-requisite?
---Cluny on 4/12/11


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since i am getting to know the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I am seeing many false spirits in the mirror.

as time goes on, i see less falseness.
---aka on 4/12/11


Please note that Mima believes, according to his posts in another blog ["Sinner's Prayer Salvation OK?"], that anyone can say a magical prayer entitled "the sinner's prayer" (a man-made prayer) whether he or she is sincere or not and be eternally saved. In other words, a genuine faith in Jesus Christ and The Gospel is not necessary according to Mima, as long as he or she repeats his sinner's prayer.

Our Lord say that not everyone who say "Lord, Lord" will be saved (Matthew 7:21) and the New Testament is clear that obedience to Jesus Christ and the Gospel are necessary.

Mima preach another Gospel,a false gospel.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/12/11


Hmmm...your second point makes sense to me the most Cluny--that faith in Jesus IS the key to it all. I just don't have a problem with the sinner's prayer because it's just words of accepting Jesus, how do you feel we should accept Him?
---Mary on 4/12/11


Good question Mima but there is no such thing as a false spirit.
Celestial beings were created by God and are either perfectly obedient or perfectly rebellious and evil. Its not possible for angels to be phony but I understand what you mean - i.e. evil spirits.
---larry on 4/12/11


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I was a victim of the sinner's prayer from the age of six.

The pastor peppered me with questions:
Do you believe you're a sinner?
Have you confessed your sins?
Do you believe Jesus died for you?
Do you want to live for Jesus?

"Now ask Jesus to come into your heart"

I did, Not once, but several hundred times.

But there was a problem. I did not believe Jesus is God, did not know what it meant that Jesus "died for me" (confusion over the word 'for'), etc.

In other words, I had prayed for salvation from an insignificant jesus who had not died to pay the debt for my sins, and I did not have any faith in Jesus at all.

I had been given a "different" gospel
---James_L on 4/12/11


\\Cluny, can you explain what is it you have against the sinner's prayer? I don't understand, thanks.\\

Well, for one thing, it's taught NOWHERE in the Bible.

It's a tradition and precept of men.

For another, at least according to mima, faith in Jesus is not necessary for the "sinner's prayer" to have spiritual efficacy, yet according to the Bible faith in Jesus IS necessary for salvation.

Will these do for starters?
---Cluny on 4/12/11


Cluny, can you explain what is it you have against the sinner's prayer? I don't understand, thanks.
---Mary on 4/12/11


Satan and his angels battles with us daily.So we must guard ourselves with the word of God.
---candice on 4/12/11


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\\He said he was a Jew who was at his wit's end when someone told him about the sinner prayer. And although he did not believe it would help he said the sinner's prayer and instantaneously knew he was saved.\\

In other words, the non-Biblical sinner's prayer need not be said with faith.

Curious that faith in Jesus was not part of his "salvation experience."

Do I understand you right, mima?
---Cluny on 4/12/11


What're you doing mima, dropping names?
---Nana on 4/12/11


Cluny your statement,"Some of them boast about leading people in the unbiblical "sinner's prayer", thinking that their victims they so mislead get saved thereby, and partial healings at their intercessions". I was reminded of what I heard a man say yesterday. He said he was a Jew who was at his wit's end when someone told him about the sinner prayer. And although he did not believe it would help he said the sinner's prayer and instantaneously knew he was saved. He remains a big influence in Christianity today. His name is Sid Roth,
---mima on 4/12/11


I allowed false spirits to cause me to abandon my faith once in my life. I judged Christianity by people in the church instead of by Jesus' life. False spirits very often are in our churches. You must be prepared to discern the spirit of the person, through prayer and studying the Bible, so that you are equipped to recognize a false spirit. Do not be discouraged if you encounter someone who says they are of God, when their actions say otherwise. Do not hold Christianity accountable for the actions of these spirits. The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy and will clothe himself as anything to cause you to lose your walk with God. Keep praying, studying, and remember that the only perfect example of Christianity is Jesus and His life.
---nancy5347 on 4/11/11


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A lot of things put up on these blogs are clearly inspired by lying spirits, if that's what you mean, mima.

Some of them boast about leading people in the unbiblical "sinner's prayer", thinking that their victims they so mislead get saved thereby, and partial healings at their intercessions.
---Cluny on 4/11/11


I had many people who claimed to be people of God, but the truth is they are ministers and servants of Satan, 2 Corinthians Chapter Eleven.
---Rob on 4/11/11


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