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All I Want Is Heaven No More

I walked away from God last June, since then have lived in terrible fear of hell feeling that I have lost salvation. I don't feel any desire to come back to God but I don't want to go to hell so I know I must come back to Him and being/doing good - will He take me when all I want is assurance of heaven?

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will He take me when all I want is assurance of heaven
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assurance of heaven man-made idea - NOT the reward of those who receive salvation and eternal life

TRUTH per Holy Scripture the reward is to rule with Christ on EARTH when Christ returns to resurrect ALL from the dead restoring Gods Kingdom on Earth Dan 7:14, John 6:44, Rom 4:13, 1Corin 15, Matt 5:5, Rev 5:10, Gal 3:29

the LIVING Christ seated at the right hand of The Father in Heaven IN Heaven ...The Prince of Peace/Christ is not ruling this gods world it belongs to Satan now 2Corin 4:4 ...a world full of violence, hate, greed, wars, deceit, and death

curious why would you want a man made heaven fairy tale over a relationship with the creator of ALL
---Rhonda on 7/26/11


Jane, why would you want heaven, and not the Jesus of heaven? That is like saying, I don't wany to suffer and die outside in the cold, so I must go into Jane's house for shelter, but I don't want Jane- just the assurance of her house.
---Eloy on 7/25/11


Rhonda: You sound like some brainwashed cult member. Have you ever heard of context?

The trinity is not pagan and it is biblical and I already have given you historical proof and scriptural proof.

You reject truth because it doesn't match your preconceived notions. And you may be very religious but you are not spiritual at all. The Holy Spirit is the teacher and if you don't have the Holy Spirit and don't even know who he is then how can you discern spiritual things???
---poopsey on 7/23/11


Rhonda: The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth so if you have the Holy Spirit within you then the Holy Spirit would not lie about his very own nature. The Holy Spirit would not deny himself. You have been brainwashed by men and are not seeking truth.

John 14 NIV
17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you.

1 John 4 NIV
6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.
---poopsey on 7/23/11


Rhonda: Sorry to say but yes you are lying.

Acts 5 NIV
3 Then Peter said, Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? ... You have not lied just to human beings but to God.
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I'm lying? interesting because YOUR deception is WICKED seeing you merged the LAST sentence of Acts 5:4 INTO Acts 5:3 to create fulfill your self-serving pagan trinity!!

to read Acts 5:3-4 does not even come close to IMPLYING any trinity

how sad one must TWIST and PERVERT Holy Scripture

AGAIN not one verse EVER implies the POWER of God (His Holy Spirit) is a "god"
---Rhonda on 7/22/11




Poopsey, I haven't discussed Calvinism, only two are three blogs which have Calvinism.
As you can see by my answers concerning the deity of the Holy Spirit, and the deity of Christ why I battle so hard for them. If we change the nature, character and attributes of God at the expense of a passage, we create another god (a little god) as J. witnesses do. Those who argue against the deity of Christ are those who believe like Willa and others, that God cannot do something, when in fact He is sovereign. If He cannot do as Pleases Him, He is not God. That goes for the Son and the Holy Spirit. Their deity does not change. That is why the trinity is so important. If we compromise one part, we might as well compromise it all as they do.
---Mark_V. on 7/19/11


markv: We don't agree on Calvinism as you well know but you are absolutely correct regarding the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit inspired the scriptures and used men as instruments to write them. The Holy Spirit convicts, regenerates and teaches.

The basic tenets of the Christian faith are very important and for those who deny basics like the trinity, Christ's deity, an eternal hell, a bodily resurrection, etc are on shaky ground.

The trinity is historical and biblical fact.
---poopsey on 7/19/11


Poosey, very good points you gave concerning the Holy Spirit. I just don't know Rhonda or anyone cannot see those points. It has to be theolgical bias, they have hardened their hearts to anymore Truth. Lying to God is lying to the Holy Spirit, of it is the Spirit of God. Behind the human writers of Scripture was the divine author of Author of revelation, the Holy Spirit. Peter, refering to Old Testament prophecy, declared that "men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God" the agents were men, the source was God, and the single author moving the human instruments was the Holy Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 7/18/11


Rhonda: Sorry to say but yes you are lying.

Acts 5 NIV
3 Then Peter said, Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? ... You have not lied just to human beings but to God.

Here Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit and at the end it refers to lying to God in reference to the aforementioned Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 13 NIV
14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

The Holy Spirit is not an abstract it but a person. In particular, the third person of the trinity.
---poopsey on 7/18/11


Rhonda: The only one lying around here is YOU!
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SHOW ME the verse that states the GIFT of God (HIS Holy Spirit) is a "god"

I understand your position ...you are emotionally charged feeding off of DECEPTION given to you by mortal men who have twisted Gods Holy Word

you can't provide GODS WORD to back up pagan trinity lies you blindly repeat ...reality is you ONLY EVADE Gods Truth

ONLY two GODS ...The Father in Heaven and Christ ...seeing Christ said He was ONE with the Father ...your trinity LIES contradict the Word Christ Jesus

so if I "lie" then Holy Scripture lies so WHICH Scripture states the Holy Spirit is a "god"??? WHICH ONE?
---Rhonda on 7/16/11




Rhonda: The only one lying around here is YOU! What you are promoting is a serious heresy. You are denying the very nature and purpose of the Holy Spirit which happens to be a part of the Godhead.

I gave you historical proof about the Holy Spirit and also have proven with scripture that you are born again of the spirit and that the spirit seals you.

You are stubborn and full of pride and spiritually blinded so you will not listen.
---poopsey on 7/16/11


Apostles did not worship or EVER acknowledge any other Gods they ONLY worshiped and served The Father in Heaven and Christ
---Rhonda on 7/14/11

Rhonda....study as you are. Resist denom's and opinions.
Weigh all with two or more scripturally given witnesses. Need deeper explanation, search the greek and hebrew languages, like Char.
Christ is the only teacher/rabbi. We weigh what other tell us....with the scales of witness scripture, as you pointed.
7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren.

Matt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
---Trav on 7/14/11


Rhonda, Rev 2:6, "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."Nicolations, liberty to practice immorality?
Deut 18:9 "When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations.", Following verses specify divination, sorcery,witchcraft spells, etc
Deut 20:18 "lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God."

I don't see anything about "pagan babylon trinity".
---christina on 7/14/11


So where in Holy Scripture does it say:"it would be those who preach the pagan babylon trinity who speak AGAINST The Father in Heaven and HIS Son Christ Jesus "

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Christ said that Rev 2:6, Deut 18:9, 20:18 and more however ALWAYS more spin huh?

AND AGAIN

where does it say the gift of God HIS Holy Spirit is a "god"???

it just doesn't say it no matter how much you try to imply it and foolishly repeat the lies given to you by false ministers preaching ANOTHER Jesus 2Corin 4:11

Apostles did not worship or EVER acknowledge any other Gods they ONLY worshiped and served The Father in Heaven and Christ
---Rhonda on 7/14/11


Rhonda: Christ said you need to be born again of the spirit. If you don't have the spirit then you don't belong to Christ.
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thankfully I do belong to Christ seeking to overcome ...a daily walk

however ...I'm more amused that you have no backup for your original post seeing I replied WITH Scripture to your misunderstanding

why not follow through with your original post? obviously you can't ...so instead you move on to create more spin tossing out unrelated Scriptures?
---Rhonda on 7/14/11


Rhonda is wrong. She refuses to believe in the very words she says are true. The Holy Spirit has all the attributes of God Himself. He is Omnipotent (Mic. 3:8, Acts 1:8, Rom. 15:13,19) He is Omniscient ( 1 Cor. 2:10, Is. 40:13,14) He is the giver of life and the One who resurrects the dead ( Job 33:4, 1 Peter 3:18 ), and He is the One injured by our sin (Mk. 3:29, Acts 5:3,4). The adjectives which are applied to the Spirit are those used to describe God. He is Holy ( Ps 51:11, Is. 63:10 Lk. 11:13, Eph. 4:30) He is also the Spirit of Truth ( John 14:17, 15:26, 16:13 ) He is the Spirit of Grace ( Heb. 10:290 Even more important He is called Lord, and is also the one through whom God works in redemption, as He convicts of sin.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/11


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Rhonda: Christ said you need to be born again of the spirit. If you don't have the spirit then you don't belong to Christ.

John 3 NIV
3 Jesus replied, Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.

Titus 3:5 NIV
He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Ephesians 1 NIV
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

Ephesians 4 NIV
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
---poopsey on 7/14/11


Rhonda, you did a lot of talking like many heretics around here and never explain anything from Scripture to proof what you believe or the accusations you present. Why don't you tell us then, "who is the Holy Spirit?" And, Where does He, or "it" as you say, come from? Was He also created? And when did He or "it" as you say, enter the arena of history?
---Mark_V. on 7/14/11


"all one must do is believe EVERY WORD from Holy Scripture rather than a few words and adding pagan abominations

it would be those who preach the pagan babylon trinity who speak AGAINST The Father in Heaven and HIS Son Christ Jesus "

So where in Holy Scripture does it say:"it would be those who preach the pagan babylon trinity who speak AGAINST The Father in Heaven and HIS Son Christ Jesus "
---christina on 7/13/11


Rhonda: Don't speak against the Holy Spirit because it is with the Holy Spirit that one is saved and sealed.
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where does it say the Holy Spirit "saves" - Holy Scripture states the SON saves Matt 18:11, Acts 2:21

where does it say the Holy Spirit "seals" Holy Scripture states The Father seals John 6:27

oh the LYING web of deceit and my oh my how wicked many are when they ignorantly preach the tales their false ministers spin ...blindly repeating LIES

all one must do is believe EVERY WORD from Holy Scripture rather than a few words and adding pagan abominations

it would be those who preach the pagan babylon trinity who speak AGAINST The Father in Heaven and HIS Son Christ Jesus
---Rhonda on 7/13/11


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Holy Spirit is not a "god" (lower case 'g'), rather, the Holy Spirit IS God.
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repeating babylon trinity lie given by false ministers does not make your statement truth

TRUTH IS nowhere in Holy Scripture can your statement be found!!! simply because it is a LIE

True Christians worship The Father in Heaven and HIS Son in Truth and Spirit

Apostles NEVER taught or worshiped pagan babylon abomination that Holy Spirit was a "god" Gal 1:3, Rom 1:7, Eph 1:2,3, Col 1:2,3, 2John 1:3 and many others

There is The Father in Heaven and HIS SON the Word Christ Jesus ...there are no "other gods" or 3 rolled into "1" Rom 15:6, 1Corin 8:6, 1Tim 2:5
---Rhonda on 7/13/11


Holy Spirit is not a "god" (lower case 'g'), rather, the Holy Spirit IS God.
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repeating babylon trinity lie given by false ministers does not make your statement truth

TRUTH IS nowhere in Holy Scripture can your statement be found!!! simply because it is a LIE

True Christians worship The Father in Heaven and HIS Son in Truth and Spirit

Apostles NEVER taught or worshiped pagan babylon abomination that Holy Spirit was a "god" Gal 1:3, Rom 1:7, Eph 1:2,3, Col 1:2,3, 2John 1:3 and many others

There is The Father in Heaven and HIS SON the Word Christ Jesus ...there are no "other gods" or 3 rolled into "1" Rom 15:6, 1Corin 8:6, 1Tim 2:5
---Rhonda on 7/13/11


Rhonda: Don't speak against the Holy Spirit because it is with the Holy Spirit that one is saved and sealed.

Trinity is biblical and is not the invention of the RCC. Ignatius who was a disciple of John wrote in his epistle to the Philippians.

Chapter II
Unity of the three divine persons.

There are not then either three Fathers, or three Sons, or three Paracletes, but one Father, and one Son, and one Paraclete. Wherefore also the Lord, when He sent forth the apostles to make disciples of all nations, commanded them to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, not unto one [person] having three names, nor into three [persons] who became incarnate, but into three possessed of equal honour.
---poopsey on 7/13/11


Let's not argue about who Jehovah is, and isn't. That's for Jehovah himself to decide. Let's be nice to one another, and uplift one another as brother and sisters. Okay? :)
---Ni_Ni on 7/13/11


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Rhonda, No, the Holy Spirit is not a "god" (lower case 'g'), rather, the Holy Spirit IS God.
---christina on 7/12/11


no matter what many of you bring to the table it does not change the fact that the Holy Spirit is God.
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difference between counterfeit christianity and those who worship The biblical Father in Heaven in Truth and Spirit ...Apostles never greeted the Holy Spirit they ONLY greeted The Father and His Son because they are the only GODS

counterfeit christianity brought the pagan babylon trinity to "the table"

trinity is ANOTHER Jesus 2Corin 11:4 that rcc brought to ITS table ...Apostles did not worship a trinity and Christ did not teach that abomination ...those who FOLLOW EVERY Word of God understand this ...those who follow men simply ADD and IMPLY the idea of a trinity to Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 7/12/11


Rhonda, there has been people with the same understanding as yours for centuries. In the fourth century there was Arius (a heretic) who talked just like you about the Holy Spirit. But no matter what many of you bring to the table it does not change the fact that the Holy Spirit is God. He is called the Spirit of God, (1 Cor. 6:11) In the Greek texts of Acts 16:7 He is called "the Spirit of Jesus" In addition to aspects of His ministry is the fact He has all the attributes that the Father and the Son have. The Spirit is Omniscient, Omnipresence, Omnipotent. The Spirit is said to be the Truth (1 John 5:6).
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


Luke 1:35 The angel answered, The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God."
Luke 3:16
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Christina are you blind?

Where does it STATE the GIFT of the Holy Spirit is a "god"?

You either deliberately misunderstand the verses you chose or believe it states it somewhere in some satanic script written backwards or upside down ...or worse you ignorantly repeat these lying ideas as taught by false ministers you worship

however THE PLAIN TRUTH is the Holy Scripture you have used does not remotely IMPLY a "god" for the GIFT of Gods Spirit yet it STATES Christ the SON is a GOD being born of GOD
---Rhonda on 7/10/11


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Rhonda, "Holy Spirit is not a god...""Holy Scripture does not ever state the power of The Father in Heaven is through His divine Spirit .." seems a bit of a contradiction to me.
What of this?:
Luke 1:35 The angel answered, The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God."
Luke 3:16
---christina on 7/10/11


Holy Spirit is not a god no matter how one attempts to imply this LIE ...Then please explain Acts 2
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Explain the gift of tongues? that is given from the gift of the Holy Spirit?

Or explain that Holy Scripture does not ever state the power of The Father in Heaven is through His divine Spirit ...Acts 2 does not state or even remotely IMPLY the GIFT of the Holy Spirit is a "god" ...the TRUTH is nowhere in Holy Scripture is Gods Holy Spirit EVER referred to as a "god"

that is purely in the imaginations of men coming straight from Babylon ...the trinity was not new to the gentiles because they worshiped it ...seeing the Father in Heaven HATES babylon why would one adopt a pagan trinity? Rev 17
---Rhonda on 7/9/11


\\That kind of repentance is called "Attrition" Attrition is a false caused by a fear of punishment or a loss of blessing. And example,\\

It might be a beginning for some people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/11


Jane, If you want heaven to avoid hell, it will not save you. That kind of repentance is called "Attrition" Attrition is a false caused by a fear of punishment or a loss of blessing. And example,
Every parent has witnessed attrition in a child when he is caught with his hands in the cookie jar. The child, fearing the paddle cries and says "I'm sorry, please don't spank me" These pleas coupled with tears are usually not signs of genuine remorse for wrongdoing. This was the kind of repentance Esau exhibited (Gen. 27:30-46). He was sorry not because he had sinned, but because he had lost his birthright.
Now "contrition" is a true and godly repentance. The remorse is having offended God.
---Mark_V. on 6/20/11


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\\no Cluny sadly your mind is simply closed down to truth\\

My, you do tend to project, don't you, Rhonda?

\\you prefer the trinity that was ESTABLISHED by rcc sometime around 325AD\\

But the Roman Catholic Church didn't exist in 325 AD.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/11


Holy Spirit is not a god no matter how one attempts to imply this LIE
---Rhonda on 6/19/11

Then please explain Acts 2?
---Scott on 6/20/11


\\...BASIC Scripture contradicts the LIE of "hell"
---Rhonda on 4/16/11\\

Basic scripture contradicts you, Rhonda.
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no Cluny sadly your mind is simply closed down to truth

you prefer the trinity that was ESTABLISHED by rcc sometime around 325AD

Apostles nor Christ EVER taught the pagan abomination of a trinity

seeing Christ and the Father in Heaven are ONE

or did you FAIL to comprehend Christ NEVER mentioned rcc's god they call the Holy Spirit

Holy Spirit is not a god no matter how one attempts to imply this LIE
---Rhonda on 6/19/11


The good thing about God is he will not let you leave. King David said (paraphase) 'if I go to the highest mountain you are there, if I go the darkest corner you are there, if I go into the deeps of the sea you are there'. God will let you run but will continue to call you back. However, your heart can become hard and thus you will not hear the voice of God. Good people do NOT go to heaven. Christians go to heaven. yes he will take you when all you want is heaven, but you cannot stay in your current lifestyle which will change as you get to know GOD.
---Scott on 6/13/11


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\...BASIC Scripture contradicts the LIE of "hell"
---Rhonda on 4/16/11\\

Basic scripture contradicts you, Rhonda.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny

Yes CHRIST is risen. Cluny saying Scripture contradicts Rhonda is a cop out. You need to show the scripture and answer what the verses mean. I have read many here who deny the trinity. They make staments and do not answer those that show they are wrong. I also try to provide scripture that show my point. Read Isiaih 66
---Samuel on 4/26/11


\\...BASIC Scripture contradicts the LIE of "hell"
---Rhonda on 4/16/11\\

Basic scripture contradicts you, Rhonda.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/26/11


You are not serious surely.God is pure love.Why would anyone want to avoid Him? It would be impossible anyway.God is the main part of heaven.-IMHO
---shirley on 4/25/11


Jane:

Someone asked: "Do you somehow think you can be in heaven and avoid God?" An equally important question is: do you think that you can be on earth and avoid God?

Well, of course not. You may think that you have left God, but The Eternal Father has never left you and His attitude towards you has never changed and will never change.

Recognize that even now, His all-encompassing Grace surrounds you like the atmosphere that surrounds the earth. You are, Jane, the "Apple of His eye". And God, your Heavenly Father, is obviously still working on you so that you may acknowledge and accept His Grace and His Peace.
---Allan on 4/25/11


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Jane,

Though some may disagree with what I'm about to say, I find no solid scriptural argument with it. Hell is not the place of eternal torment, but is a fire unbelievers will be cast into and parish (no longer exist). God has offered eternal life through faith in His Jesus. The question is, do you desire eternal life or to parish? It is not a question of fear, but love. Do you love this world so much (which will pass away) you would not accept this loving gift to be in the Kingdom of God or do you see what our Heavenly Father has for you. This life is a vapor, yet to us it seems it will not end though we know it will.

Don't fear death, love God.
---willa5568 on 4/25/11


Jane, Going to Heaven involves having a loving relationship with GOD and His true Church. So, we've got to want GOD first, or we cannot possibly even really enjoy Heaven, anyway. For Heaven is a Place that glorifies and points to GOD Himself. While your fear of going to Hell is VERY, VERY, VERY understandable, and we all SHOULD be afraid of going to Hell...We still must have that "First Love" of GOD through His Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS). Pray to GOD to give you a love for Him, and a Godly Fear of Him. :-)
---Gordon on 4/21/11


Jane,

"love cast out all fear". You have to understand Gods love for you. It is not limited to eternal life but is also given in this life. The question is do you love Him are you willing to follow Jesus? If you will turn to God don't let be fear of judgment but thanksgiving for the gift He has given in His son's death for your sins.
---willa5568 on 4/20/11


Sorry, but it sounds like all you want is fire insurance. Salvation requires total committment. If you are saved and only wandered away, the father will welcome you back, he never left you, you left him. If you are not saved get on your knees and ask forgiveness and turn from the sinful ways. But be prepared to serve in a hostile world. The lost of this world hate the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They will also hate you if you are his.
My prayer is for you.
---Harold on 4/19/11


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jane....for you:

Isaiah 40:31
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles,
they will run and not grow weary,
they will walk and not be faint.

Heaven is God's home, so you MUST come back to God in order to live in his home for all eternity. Why did you walk away from Him? Did someone hurt you? Come back to Him NOW, TODAY before it is too late. Father, in the name of Jesus I pray for Jane that she may cry out to you and say Lord, I want to come back to you, I want love you as you love me. I want to get to know you again, Lord have mercy on me, a sinner, I repent in sackcloth and ashes and draw nigh unto me Lord as I cry out to you. In Jesus name I pray.
---Donna5535 on 4/18/11


Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Joh 5:41 I receive not honour from men.
---TheSeg on 4/17/11


Jane,
you have set your eyes on the wrong reason. You have set your sight on heaven instead of God and others. Love is the only thing that will get you into heaven - the love of God and the love of others. Love is the ultimate commandment spoken of by Jesus. How do you love and glorify God? By helping others with genuine love. I'm not saying works will get you into heaven because faith without works is dead faith. Learning and growing in love (as in the verb form) as you show genuine love toward others glorifies God.
---Steveng on 4/16/11


say you have "walked away from God", but the fact that you have a "terrible fear of hell" tells me He hasn't walked away from you!
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she is SIMPLY afraid of hell from false ministers preaching lying theories about a mortal mans idea of a hell ...the colorful bogus lies of Dante many preachers use to simply PROGRAM by repetition every sermon

Holy Scripture states The Father in Heaven SEEKS those who worship HIM in Truth and Spirit

remember rcc gave mankind hell as given to them by pagans

easy to misunderstand Holy Scripture when following lying false ministers - Christ said MANY would come in His name preaching lies

...BASIC Scripture contradicts the LIE of "hell"
---Rhonda on 4/16/11


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Jane,
what do you mean when you say you walked away from God last June?

Jonah tried getting in a boat to sail away from God, but it didn't work.


But even more important than that - you say you feel like you lost salvation?

I say if you know what salvation is and how it is applied, you would know that cannot "lose" it.

If you think you can lose it, I have to wonder if you ever were saved to begin with.

I used to believe I could lose my salvation - that is, until I heard the gospel and was saved.
---James_L on 4/16/11


Richard_Hobart: "You may have walked away from Him, but He promised NEVER to leave you nor FORSAKE you..,"

That is a false teaching. Have you not read of all the warnings about christians going astray and the consequences? Jesus will never leave you IF you continue to walk the path toward the Kingdom of God. Once you detour off the road, you are a sinner until you repent again.
---Steveng on 4/16/11


Jane
Last June where you? You said you walked away from God.
So, you saw him? Most of us here would like to see him.
I could call you a liar for inferring you met him.
The truth is you never did! To say I walked away from God?
Foolish!

You also said your living in terrible fear of hell.
Well in Mal 1:6 the lord said:
If I be a master, where is my fear?
So you're admitting to us you believe and fear God word!
I say WORD because you never met him.

You want to come back. But you never left.
As far as doing Good, ha ha ha!

You want an assurance of heaven?
Ok, here it is!
May God Bless!
---TheSeg on 4/16/11


Jesus Christ said He is the ONLY way to Heaven and Salvation (John 14:6). To get to Jesus Christ you MUST do the following (1) Repent (confess and turn from your sins) (Luke 13:3, 1 John 1:9), and (2) Trust in Jesus Christ by believing AND confessing that He died and rose again and that He is Lord (Romans 10:9-10). According to the Bible doing the two above things is the ONLY way to get to Heaven.
---Leslie on 4/16/11


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//will He take me when all I want is assurance of heaven?//

Why not try it and see? I don't mean just start living as you think a Christian should live (you can't fool God). Tell Him you don't feel the desire, and ask His help with THAT. Whatever caused you to walk away...ask His help to change you on the inside.

You may say you have "walked away from God", but the fact that you have a "terrible fear of hell" tells me He hasn't walked away from you!
Sounds like He wants you back!
---Donna66 on 4/16/11


Well, if you go back to what you were doing, you might be the way you were so you would leave God, again. Were you truly with Him . . . enjoying Him and pleasing Him in His love's "incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God"? (in 1 Peter 3:4) We can fool ourselves and not know it (c:

Satan was in Heaven, and he was not satisfied. He got kicked out. So, if Jesus is not good enough for you, here, you won't like Heaven, like Satan didn't (Luke 10:18). God has no second-best blessing for His children.
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/16/11


Holy Scripture does not teach any assurance of heaven ...seeing those who live and die in Christ will be resurrected to eternal life and RULE Gods Kingdom ON EARTH

it's easy to see why you want the fairy tale of heaven and why the GRIM holocaust of hell is so "scary" because Dante was very clever creating a fictional hell and MANY who come in name of Christ LOVE to preach this bogus lie

Why not pray to The Father in Heaven and start by asking for TRUTH rather than following lying mortal men? Psalms 118:8, Matt 4:4

Otherwise lots of "christians" will provide sappy ways of assuring your safety in the fictional heaven
---Rhonda on 4/16/11


You may have walked away from Him, but He promised NEVER to leave you nor FORSAKE you, however, just be sure Satan hasn't slipped you a counterfeit salvation! Do you know HIM or about Him?
---Richard_Hobart on 4/16/11


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Maybe Mima can teach you the "sinner's prayer' then everything will be peachy keen!
---1st_cliff on 4/15/11


jane God will forgive you,and remember the issue you speak of usually is why most people come to him thru jesus to begin with,so you arent so different.
---tom2 on 4/15/11


Well Jane. I wish there were an easy way to be a christian.There would be more on board. But there is not. You are either for God, or against HIM. You cannot split the fence,so to speak. You love HIM or you don't.We have to make sacrifices in life. Being a christian carries certain responsibilities, with it. You must submit and commit.
---Robyn on 4/15/11


God is married to the backslider and is jealous over you. He loves you so much that He sent His only son to die for you and take your punishment on Himself. If you don't want to take your own punishment in Hell, then accept what Jesus did for you. Repent (confess and turn from your sins) (Luke 13:3, 1 John 1:9) and put your trust in Jesus Christ through believing and confessing that He died and rose again and that He is Lord (Romans 10:9-10) - this is the ONLY way to escape Hell.
---Leslie on 4/15/11


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Do you somehow think you can be in heaven and avoid God?
---Cluny on 4/15/11


Assurance of heaven is his program, it's what joy is made of and it's for everyone...embrace the one and only spirit of God, learn him, love him, it has little to do with what you do but in speaking to him, when his spirit comes to you and takes over sorting your thoughts and ways in front of you there's no turning back.

Find life in the risen Christ our Lord, it's truly there friend.
---friend on 4/15/11


I pray that the Lord will lead and guide your path in the direction He have for you. I believe you can return to God at anytime by repenting to Him about your Soul Salvations. Yes, He will take you back! The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7 See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. Exodus 23:20
---Kimbe7395 on 4/15/11


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