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Is it wrong that I don't want to be married by a catholic priest because I am protestant myself, but my boyfriend does?

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Yes Cluny I knew that one. But it has been a very long time since I read them.

I read the life of Martin Luther about two years ago. But I read his commentary on Romans the year I was baptized into the Seventh day Adventist church. My pastor says it was an excellent commentary and should be must reading for Christians. I should probabley reread it though.
---Samuel on 5/6/11


I commend you for doing some research into this matter, Samuel.

Did you know that one of Martin Luther's 95 Theses is, "Apostolic pardons [i.e., indulgences] are not to be lightly despised"?
---Cluny on 4/30/11


I started reseaching this topic a little more. Teztel used to sell indulgience or the right to commit a sin. This was latter condemned by the church. Some say it was before also but that seems to be more a rewriting of history.

"Perhaps the main reason people bought relics was because they were superstitious. ... If they died and went to hell they would burn for ever or be speared by fierce demons. The buying of a relic would reduce time spent in purgatory after death." The Open Door web site Church history.
---Samuel on 4/29/11


Samuel, I'm not arguing for the Roman doctrine of Purgatory.

I'm saying that the claim that saints transfer grace to get out of there, as your friend said, is NOT a Catholic teaching.

However, I would thank you for clearly expressing just what the doctrine of Purgatory says, instead of the misrepresentations frequently found on sites such as this.
---Cluny on 4/28/11


The substance of the Florentine dogma was later reiterated by the Council of Trent in response to Protestant denials. The Catholic dogma of Purgatory may be succinctly stated under two points:

(1) Those who die in a state of grace but imperfect holiness and freedom must undergo a process of final purification.

(2) Those who undergo final purification are aided by the prayers, suffrages, and ascetical and charitable works of the Church.

See also Good New Ministry on Purgatory.
---Samuel on 4/26/11




\\He told me that relics transfer grace from saints to you to get time out of purgatory.\\

But this is not the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, either.
---Cluny on 4/22/11


\\5. Purgatory, paying and use of relics to get people out of purgatory\\

Samuel, the Roman Catholic Church has NEVER taught that relics can get people out of purgatory. Cluny

The Scholars who talked on the life of Marin Luther and the history books that speak of the use of Relics to get time out of Purgatory that I have read were not from one source but different authors and different groups.

One defender of the RCC corrected me when I made the mistake of saying the relics saved you. He told me that relics transfer grace from saints to you to get time out of purgatory. When I checked I had to admit that I was wrong. So perhaps you are incorrect here.
---Samuel on 4/22/11


In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/21/11

There is a site on Sola Scriptora that I have been waiting for you to visit. You stated once I did not ansower you. I always have tried to answer you. So please come to the Isiah 8:20 since we have got off topic and you will help get us on topic.
---Samuel on 4/22/11


Igantius, I completely disagree with your statement,

"Those who said they were "raised Catholics" are usually the ones who shows ignorance to the teachings/practices of Catholicism. You are no exception."

All those Catholics that have left the church that I know, know why they left the Church and their teachings. Maybe Donna5535 said the wrong thing at the wrong time, but that does not proof all of us who belonged to the Catholic Church don't know what was taught. In fact all of the one's I know are now speaking to Catholics so they can know the real Truth, not what was given as truth by the Church.
---Mark_V. on 4/22/11


Donna, after re-reading your posts, something has occurred to me.

You could not possibly be rejecting Roman Catholicism, because it's obvious you know next to nothing about what it really teaches.

It sounds to me more like you're rebelling against your parents and rejecting them. Words such as "they made me go" give this impression.

You also said you have three Roman Catholic friends, and you criticized them, even though two of them have faults that are common to many people. Pentecostals and even those of NO faith can be bitter and blame God for things, too.

I suggest you need to examine your heart and see why so many of your buttons get pushed.
---Cluny on 4/21/11




"But don't forget, Ignatius, that many of these traces were what the RCC retained when she left Orthodoxy.
---Cluny on 4/21/11"

Agree.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/21/11


\\You have many things in common with the Roman Church (all of us here do).\\

But don't forget, Ignatius, that many of these traces were what the RCC retained when she left Orthodoxy.
---Cluny on 4/21/11


"I've been delivered out of a cult religion" (Donna5565)

And then you enter into Pentecostalism, which another religion filled with man-made traditions/practices, and which many demonic activity has occurred in these churches.

You really think you are being off now? In truth, your spiritual condition has worsen.

FWIW, since you are ignorant of Catholicism, please refrain in telling bloggers here what the RCC teach and do not teach.

Why speak on stuff you know not of?

And you do have traces of Catholicism in you! You have many things in common with the Roman Church (all of us here do).

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/21/11


\\5. Purgatory, paying and use of relics to get people out of purgatory\\

Samuel, the Roman Catholic Church has NEVER taught that relics can get people out of purgatory.

**It just didn't have any meaning for me **

In other words, Donna, you are setting up YOURSELF and what you think and feel as the main criterion of truth.
---Cluny on 4/21/11


"ONLY the LORD knows my heart alan, not you or anyone else on this board. Amen? " (Donna5565)

If this is true, then why do you pretend to know the hearts of millions of Catholics (both Eastern and Latin)? Are you claiming that you are equal to the Lord?

"It just didn't have any meaning for me until God drew me to Himself and poured Liquid Love into my being and taught me His truths."

Where in the Bible does it say that God will throw "liquid love" (whatever that means) into people?

"P.S. I went to church because my parents made me."

That explains why you know nothing about the RCC even though you pretend to know it all.

In IC.XC.,
---IGnatius on 4/21/11


Donna ... How many times do I have to tell you that I am not Catholic? So it does not work for me.

However, I will not demonise the Roman church.

Now, you said you have no knowledge of Catholicism. How then are you able to condemn that church? If you know nothing about it?

You don't even seem to know that it believes all those things which Cluny has now listed for you
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/21/11


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Donna ... from your objection on another board to what I said, and from how you responded to me here, it seems you don't really read what other people say to you.

Here you have said you know nothing of Catholicism ... and ye t you condemn it.

I was pointing out that these two things just don't hang together. You can't justifiably condemn something if you know nothing about it!

So don't take things as a dig ... jsut read what has been said!!

Blessings
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/21/11


The Romand Catholic church was a Christian church at it's founding. But they have added many pagan beliefs and false doctrine onto their Christianity.

They still teach a lot of truth. I believe that many people who are Roman Catholic will be in heaven. While I accpet your list as true Cluny there are things in the RCC I recject.

1. Adoratio of the Saints.

2. Iconography

3. The Pope as the Vicar of Christ no matter his character.

4. Their form of Apostolic Succession.

5. Purgatory, paying and use of relics to get people out of purgatory.

6. Ever burning hell.

7. Substitution of Sunday for the Sabbath.

8. Tradition equal to or above scriture.
---Samuel on 4/21/11


\\I've been told I have no trace of Catholicism in me, Praise the Lord Jesus and God our Father for that.\\

In other words, you are saying you don't believe the following things:

1. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

2. Jesus is God Incarnate.

3. He was born of a virgin.

4. He was crucified for our sins, truly died, and rose from the dead.

5. He ascended into heaven, and is coming again as judge.

If you don't have these Catholic traces in you, Donna, then you are not saved.

These "traces" are taught and believed by the Catholic Church.

You can't have it both ways.

This is why I say you don't reject Catholicism. You just reject something you mislabel Catholicism.
---Cluny on 4/21/11


alan, one of my favorites on this board. Yes, I'm glad when God rescued me out of a Religion that had no meaning for me. I wanted to know WHY I was here on this earth and when I searched, God sought me out and saved me and taught me and put his Spirit in me. I wouldn't use the word proud at all...I have 3 Catholic friends and they said I am the most down to earth Born again Christian. They can write to you and tell you how much I love them and how much I love the Lord. ONLY the LORD knows my heart alan, not you or anyone else on this board. Amen?

If it works for you, then good, I'm happy for you. It just didn't have any meaning for me until God drew me to Himself and poured Liquid Love into my being and taught me His truths.
---Donna5535 on 4/21/11


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Donna ... you think it is a compliment to have no knowledge of Catholism.

So you must be doubly proud, having no such knoweldge, to be able to speak with such authority about the RC doctrine and practices.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/21/11


//Those who said they were "raised Catholics" are usually the ones who shows ignorance to the teachings/practices of Catholicism. You are no exception.
---Ignatius on 4/21/11//

Thank you soo very much for this compliment. I've been told I have no trace of Catholicism in me, Praise the Lord Jesus and God our Father for that. I've been delivered out of a cult religion and I consider what you say a compliment. P.S. I went to church because my parents made me. If you DO read my posts, I do acknowledge that I am glad I was raised believing there is a God and believing in His Son Jesus, I didn't know God until I got Born Again and Spirit filled.
---Donna5535 on 4/21/11


Christ-follower Christians should not be yoking with castle-follower catholics. Please Read- II Corinthians 6:14-18 + Revelation 18:4-8.
---Eloy on 4/21/11


\\ but one is filled with bitterness, one is very angry at God for killing her fiance\\

And Pentecostals are NEVER angry at God or bitter, are they, Donna?

You yourself seem to show a lot of bitterness towards Catholicism here--or rather, what you THINK is Catholicism.
---Cluny on 4/21/11


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"Being raised a Catholic myself" (Donna5565)

I have read your posts, and Cluny is right. You awfully ignorant of Catholicism. I don't know if this was due to you being poorly instructed or if you just went to Mass because your parents force you while you did not care about the dogmas/practices of Catholicism.

Those who said they were "raised Catholics" are usually the ones who shows ignorance to the teachings/practices of Catholicism. You are no exception.

IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/21/11


"My three friends are Catholic are practice all of the rituals, but one is filled with bitterness, one is very angry at God for killing her fiance and one worships that gold thing that holds the Communion wafer" (Donna5535)

I have also witness the same thing among Pentecostals/Baptists, except the last was actually a piece of cloth, not the Holy Eucharist. In fact, one time I attended a Pentecostal Church, and the Pastor threw a homeless man out to the street because he was "smelling" the Church and the only thing he wanted to do was hear the Gospel. Not Christ-like, eh?

"I haven't been around a Catholic person who walks closely with the Lord yet. "

I have.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/20/11


\\Being raised a Catholic myself, I know the traditions they follow...\\

You've also made it clear that you were NOT well instructed, showing your ignorance of Ash Wednesday, not knowing that Lent is a period of fasting and abstinence even in the West (however attenuated), and not even being aware of the Roman Catholic devotion of the Precious Blood, complete with prayers, feasts, and litanies in its honor.

\\ and one worships that gold thing that holds the Communion wafer.\\

Not even KNOWING the name of "that gold thing", much less not realizing that it is NOT this object you think she is worshipping further shows how poorly instructed you were.
---Cluny on 4/20/11


"I do not THINK ALL of pentecostalism is a religion, although I am surte some who are pentecostal are in a religuin" (peter)

Pentecostalism is a movement that came into being in the 19th century from radical Evangelical revivals. By definition, it is a religion. However, it's primitive form can be trace to an early heretical movement called Montanism.

Pentecostalism is nothing more than another split (and sub splits within Pentecostalism) within Protestantism, mixing Biblical/Ancient Christianity with man-traditions/practices.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/20/11


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//you should repent.
---Ignatius on 4/19/11//

Ignatius, if I came off judgementally, then yes I repent for that, but I don't think I was judging anyone. Being raised a Catholic myself, I know the traditions they follow and in them they think is life and they know the Lord. My three friends are Catholic are practice all of the rituals, but one is filled with bitterness, one is very angry at God for killing her fiance (she blames God not satan for that) and one worships that gold thing that holds the Communion wafer. I haven't been around a Catholic person who walks closely with the Lord yet. I would LOVE them to, but they think they are, but are not.
---Donna5535 on 4/20/11


\\I do not THINK ALL of pentecostalism is a religion,\\

Yes, it all is.

Traditions and precepts of men and dead works.
---Cluny on 4/20/11


Ignatius: 'Pentecostalism (a very diverse sect) is a religion. Plain and Simple.'

I do not THINK ALL of pentecostalism is a religion, although I am surte some who are pentecostal are in a religuin. But I suspect we can find some on all denomination who are, so I feel it is better to meet the individual first, and then decide whether he/she is in a religion
---Peter on 4/20/11


"Believers in Chris Jesus who have repented of their sins, (turned away from them), developed a love relationship with Father God, Lord Jesus and Holy Spirt and do HIS will, not their own will. A true Christian will follow the Lord's word at all cost. Forgive your enemy, turn the other cheek, do not committ adultery, abstain from every form of lust...
---Donna5535 on 4/19/11

And I have met many Catholic laypeople (both Latin and Eastern), priests, monks, and nuns who do the above.

"do not judge lest ye be judged in the same way you judge,"

Then why did you pass a unlawful judgement against the Catholics as not having a relationship with Christ? By your own admission, you should repent.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/19/11


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alan of UK....I'm not suggesting that at all. I was trying to make a point to Amber using 85 words or less.

I think you know the true Christians are the TRUE Believers in Chris Jesus who have repented of their sins, (turned away from them), developed a love relationship with Father God, Lord Jesus and Holy Spirt and do HIS will, not their own will. A true Christian will follow the Lord's word at all cost. Forgive your enemy, turn the other cheek, do not committ adultery, abstain from every form of lust, do not judge lest ye be judged in the same way you judge, etc.
---Donna5535 on 4/19/11


Donna5535 ... You suggest the Baptists think they are the only Christians. maybe the American Baptists are not the same as the UK ones.

But my point was that you seemed to be saying that the Pentacostals were the only true Christians!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/19/11


Donna 5535 .... I suppose a Baptist pastor would not do?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/18/11

alan, haven't you ever heard of this? This guy died and went to heaven. Peter was showing him around heaven and said, "over there are the Catholics. over here are the Evangelicals, way down there are the Lutherans and sssshhhhh be very quiet, over there are the Baptists and they think they're the only ones here...LOL! Do you get the point? A Baptist Pastor told me that in 1994.
Funny, egh?
---Donna5535 on 4/19/11


THAT IS WHY i said in another blog (black woman wants to marry a white man) that if two doctrines, as yours and your boyfriends, want to marry they should agree on doctrine first. not married yet and allready you quarrel about religion. unless one of you decides to give in it will only destroy your marriage from before you even started. and even when giving in, it will only cause hurt feelings. so my advice convert to catholisism, or let your boy convert to protestantism or seperate. (only three options here if both are really serious christians). on the other hand there is also the oecomenical option. where nobody chooses, and everybody compromises.
---andy3996 on 4/19/11


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You should not be yoking with idolaters.
---Eloy on 4/18/11


"the Catholic Religion because it's just that, a Religion, not a relationship with Jesus.
---Donna5535 on 4/18/11"

I came out of Pentecostalism and became Orthodox. Only then did I experience a true relationship with Christ. Before then, I was blinded in man-made traditions.

Pentecostalism (a very diverse sect) is a religion. Plain and Simple.

Several man-made traditions can be found in your religion, such as Sola Scriptura, The Bible only has 66 books, altar calls, the sinner's prayer, praying to a piece of cloth, being slain in the spirit, having disorderly church services, wild babbling, among other things.

Your religion has it's roots in a early heretical movement called Montanism.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/18/11


Amber, if you don't respect your friend's faith and convictions, you don't respect him and should not marry him.

"If you loved me, you'd do things my way," is a terrible and manipulative argument. It's cheated many men out of their self-respect and many women out of their virtue.

For all we know, it was the argument Eve used to get Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
---Cluny on 4/18/11


\\I came out of the Catholic church in 1983 and married in a Pentecostal church and I wouldn't go back to the Catholic Religion because it's just that, a Religion, not a relationship with Jesus.\\

Funny you should say that, Donna.

I've found Pentecostalism to be a religion--in fact, it's TWO religions. Some are Trinitarian, and some are Sabellian modalists.

And both factions claim their contradictory doctrines come from the SAME Holy Spirit!

I learned that only in ORTHODOXY can you have a TRUE relationship with Jesus.

Ignatius learned the same thing.
---Cluny on 4/18/11


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Donna 5535 .... I suppose a Baptist pastor would not do?

What's so special about Pentacostal ... is that some sort of superior Christianity, or the only tyope of Christianity that is not a religion?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/18/11


Amber, I have a solution for you. If you both get Born Again and Spirit filled, then you both can be married by a Pentecostal/Evangelical Pastor and that will settle everything for you, right?

I came out of the Catholic church in 1983 and married in a Pentecostal church and I wouldn't go back to the Catholic Religion because it's just that, a Religion, not a relationship with Jesus.
---Donna5535 on 4/18/11


\\You need a license to get married, if not your marriage is illegal.\\

And how does this relate to the original question.

(Some jurisdictions still recognize common-law marriages, btw.)
---Cluny on 4/17/11


Well, if your boyfriend is one you deeply respect and value, and if he is a product of his Catholic upbringing . . . why would you have a problem with the ones who have helped make him how he is?

But > > > if he does not really buy Catholic things, except doing things to stay on the good side of his family and maybe the priest . . . you don't need to play that game.

So, pray and maybe talk, but make sure you are honest with God. Honest prayer may take care of this without talk (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/17/11


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Cluny: "I don't know what this has to do with anything... Care to explain what you mean, if you know?"

The question just popped into my head and, of course, I'll explain what I posted.

You need a license to drive a car, if not driving one is illegal. You need a license to have a pet, if not it's illegal. You need a license to build a house, if not it's illegal. You need a license to operate a business, if not it's illegal. You need a license to be a teacher, if not it's illegal. You need a license to get married, if not your marriage is illegal.
---Steveng on 4/17/11


If that's the case, wouldn't you consider yourself unequally yoked?
---James_L on 4/16/11

Amber
James presents a very good question here, that you really need to consider.
I was once in a similar situation with my wife.
She worked at a Southern Baptist Church, and I am vehemently opposed to their teachings....It caused problems!
---David on 4/17/11


\\Cluny, here's one for you: is marriage illigal?
---Steveng on 4/16/11\\

I don't know what this has to do with anything.

A marriage can be legal according to civil law, but illicit according to the rules of various religious groups, including Orthodoxy and the Roman Catholic Church--and Judaism, for that matter.

Care to explain what you mean, if you know?
---Cluny on 4/16/11


yes it is wrong of you.
Marriage is acceptable to God regardless of who performs the ceremony.
The REAL marriage is performed by God.

Mark 10:9 What therefore GOD hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
---francis on 4/16/11


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Amber,
I was raised Protestant, and married a Roman Catholic woman. You probably will not get him to change his mind. I ask you to consider:

Do you believe Catholics are not Christians, as most Protestants do? If that's the case, wouldn't you consider yourself unequally yoked?

Second, the Roman Catholic Church has mandatory pre-marital couseling with a lead couple who will make an official recommendation to the church as to whether or not to marry you. Ask Them To Be Totally Honest With You And The Church. They are trained, and will see issues that you don't.

If you agree, you will not have a mass unless you go through confirmation. THat could be a big deal to your fiance.
---James_L on 4/16/11


Cluny, here's one for you: is marriage illigal?
---Steveng on 4/16/11


Of course, a bunch of Protestants unsympathetic with the Roman Catholic Church are just the people to ask about the procedures for getting married in your case, aren't they?

May I point out it's NOT just your wedding. Your fiance (if you are engaged) is getting married, too.

If you really loved him, you'd consider HIS feelings, not just yours.

If you feel as negatively as you do about accommodating his spiritual needs and preferences as you seem to be demonstrating here, you should not be marrying him at all.
---Cluny on 4/16/11


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