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Weapons For Strongholds

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but are mighty to the pulling down of strongholds. What are these weapons? And what are strongholds? And are you using your weapons to pull down strongholds?

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Shalom and Agape to you Mark.

I cannot judge anyone for making mistakes since I make them myself also. My words do not always say what I want them to.
---Samuel on 5/10/11


Samuel, It is now passed by me. Do not worry, I do not, and I say again, do not hold a grudge against anyone. It might seem that way, but I'm only answering the questions the best I know how. Sometimes when we answer others, our "we's" "they's" and "I" get confused especially when quoting Scripture. peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11


Dear Mark I am glad we got that cleared up. You wrote.

A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the spirit of the law.
---Mark_V.

I agree with this evaluation.

I would add that many people have judged me also.
---Samuel on 5/9/11


Samuel, I forgive you. What I meant comparing lives is, what you believe is truth to what I believe is truth. I don't agree with some of your truths. That's why we have debates to discuss Scripture. I'm not here to judge you, I judge the doctrine of the law for believers. Under grace we have the Spirit of the law. The SDA's as a whole try to bring guilt to others because of the "Saturday" not the Sabbath, that's where their wrong, judging others by their adherence to the letter of the law. Not a one escape doing that. Oh they have the letter of the law behind them, as the Pharisees had during Jesus time. A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the spirit of the law.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11


Gina7 -- You say:

// You are not judged...we love you as a fellow member... it is your conscience that is pricked that causes you to lash out .... When one hears words from Bible they do not wish to believe or follow, they attack character of messenger in a futile attempt to quiet their awakened conscience.//

Listen to yourself.
Do you REALLY wonder why some people call SDAs "self-righteous"?
---Donna66 on 5/9/11




Dear Mark I am not comparing my life with yours. That is impossible for me to do. I do not know your life how you live where you live anything about you personally.
I believe you already have the HOLY SPIRIT. I believe that when someone is wrong they need to be convicted by the HOLY SPIRIT. That includes me. Even after becoming a Christians I have had the HOLY SPIRIT convict me on a number of points in my life.
It is wrong for me to judge you but I can say I think you are wrong. Sabbath keeping is not working it is resting. I did not attack you and I feel sorry that I explained myself so poorly that you thought I was. I apologize.
---Samuel on 5/9/11


Samuel, you know exactly what my point is. You are comparing your life with mine, and judging me by your standards of what is right and what is wrong in your believes. And then telling me I need the Holy Spirit to convict me of my sin because I don't agree with you.
You actually got personel as Jerry and the others when someone disagrees. It isn't enough to discuss Scripture, if I don't believe in what you say you judge me of sin. I actually thought you were different. I find that those who act as if they are sinless, or those who push works of righteousness, go so far as to use Satan as their defense, so nothing really surprises me. I've been attack by so many I cannot count. So you are not the first to judge me.
---Mark_V. on 5/8/11


Then tell me thats why you think of me as a Christian brother. Is that not hypocritical, going against God word and judging me? You want to convince me of Saturday Sabbath, when you cannot stop your sins from going out. I'm convince though that if I could go into the homes of SDA's Saturday worshippers I would fill books on the sins they commit. But even though I cannot, they cannot escape the sight of God. Mark_V.

I am not sure of your point. Yes I commit sins. I repent of my sin and ask GOD to give me power to overcome. So because I am a sinner should I not teach that we should love GOD and our fellow humans more and sin less? I do not know your heart so I cannot judge you. I only speak on actions.
---Samuel on 5/8/11


It does not mean we "cannot" sin. That is impossible since we still have the flesh to deal with. It means we "should not sin"
---Mark_V. 5/2/11
In Christ, we are given the power to overcome. "And ye know that he was manisfested to take away our sins, and in Him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not" 1 John 3:5,6
"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" Rev 3:21
I do not argue with God- if He says we can overcome sin through Christ,then it means that we can, and this work of sanctification lasts our entire lifetime. The closer we walk with Christ, the less desirable sin becomes.
---Gina7 on 5/7/11


You do judge me and others as if you are without sin, just like all the others SDA's. Most of you are self-righteous hypocrites and the reason many say SDA's are a cult.- MarkV
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You are not judged, we love you as a fellow member of family of Christ. As I have said before, it is your conscience that is pricked that causes you to lash out and say hurtful words against SDA's. I have seen this happen before. When one hears words from Bible they do not wish to believe or follow, they attack character of messenger in a futile attempt to quiet their awakened conscience. Change focus from message to messenger, but it will not work. Holy Spirit will continue to convict your conscience and Bible truth will continue to be preached
---Gina7 on 5/7/11




Samuel, you have proven me right with your answer. You do judge me and others as if you are without sin, just like all the others SDA's. Most of you are self-righteous hypocrites and the reason many say SDA's are a cult. You say to me,
" I cannot force you to do anything. I beleive that the Holy Spirit needs to convict you before you become guilty of the sin of rejecting truth. I am discussing." First, how could God convict me of what you are discussing, since what you are saying is false? Then on the second paragrath you say you cannot judge me.
Seems to me it's you the Holy Spirit has to convict not on what I said, but on your self-righteous attitude. You are no different then Jerry, and with the same purpose.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/11


Samuel 2: I sure hoped that you wouldn't go there as he does, but it was a matter of time before you judged me. And you say:
". It also says I cannot judge you. But I can try to convince you. That why I think of you as a Christian brother who we just disagree."
And is exactly what you did. Then tell me thats why you think of me as a Christian brother. Is that not hypocritical, going against God word and judging me? You want to convince me of Saturday Sabbath, when you cannot stop your sins from going out. I'm convince though that if I could go into the homes of SDA's Saturday worshippers I would fill books on the sins they commit. But even though I cannot, they cannot escape the sight of God.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/11


Col. 2:14, but if it is the same interpretation in the Greek, word "hand writing" referred to the handwritten certificate of debt by which a debtor acknowledged his indebtedness. Mark_V.

Wesley thought of Sunday as as Sabbath. I cannot force you to do anything. I beleive that the Holy Spirit needs to convict you before you become guilty of the sin of rejecting truth. I am discussing.

Now I agree with your definition. Some say the Ten commandments are being done away here. But it is the debt incurrect that we owe that is being taken away. It also says I cannot judge you. But I can try to convince you. That why I think of you as a Christian brother who we just disagree.

Marhanatha
---Samuel on 5/6/11


Samuel, you say ok to my answers yet keep going on. Concerning Wesly writing to some guy, I've not read any of his work but I did not see "Saturday" Sabbath on what you wrote. I have already answered you, I have no problem with the Sabbath. I have a problem with you telling me that it has to be on a Saturday or else.
Concerning the "bond" you are talking about which I don't find on any of my Bibles on Col. 2:14, but if it is the same interpretation in the Greek, word "hand writing" referred to the handwritten certificate of debt by which a debtor acknowledged his indebtedness. "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths" You judge me.
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


John Wesley Speaks to a Sabbath Breaker

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Have you forgotten who spoke these words? Or do you set him at defiance? Do you bid him do his worst? Have a care. You are not stronger than he. Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth, but woe unto the man that contendeth with his Maker. He sitteth on the circle of the heavens, and the inhabitants of the earth are as grasshoppers before him!
On this day, above all, cry aloud, and spare not, to the God who heareth prayer. This is the day he hath set apart for the good of your soul, both m this world and that which is to come.
---Samuel on 5/2/11


It does not mean we "cannot" sin. That is impossible since we still have the flesh to deal with. It means we "should not sin"
We should not steal since we know it is not only wrong but is rebellion against God, where, when we were lost we did it without a blink of the eye, There was no conviction to repent to God since we were not of God.
We now know what is right and what is wrong, yet many still steal. But this time they are convicted and repent. A different economy. Mark_V.

You are correct.

RSV "having canceled the bond which stood against us with its legal demands, this he set aside, nailing it to the cross."

What is the bond?
---Samuel on 5/2/11


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Samuel, now you are arguing the moral laws that apply to everyone. Obedience is not a option. You said:

Basic agreement. I also understand you to mean we cannot steal etc. since we are followers of JESUS."

It does not mean we "cannot" sin. That is impossible since we still have the flesh to deal with. It means we "should not sin"
We should not steal since we know it is not only wrong but is rebellion against God, where, when we were lost we did it without a blink of the eye, There was no conviction to repent to God since we were not of God.
We now know what is right and what is wrong, yet many still steal. But this time they are convicted and repent. A different economy.
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


Samuel, of course Jesus kept the Sabbath, He kept all of the laws. It was necessary for Him to be completely obedient to the Law and not sin. Every law he kept. Which is why we are not condemned by the Law, because He kept it for us. While those who are lost are still under the condemnation of the Law. Col. 2:13,14 Mark_V.

Basic agreement. I also understand you to mean we cannot steal etc. since we are followers of JESUS. So col2:13 does not mean stealing is now okay. So what is the passage talking about? Have you read this passage in different translatons?

RSV "having canceled the bond which stood against us with its legal demands, this he set aside, nailing it to the cross."

What is the bond?
---Samuel on 5/1/11


Samuel, of course Jesus kept the Sabbath, He kept all of the laws. It was necessary for Him to be completely obedient to the Law and not sin. Every law he kept. Which is why we are not condemned by the Law, because He kept it for us. While those who are lost are still under the condemnation of the Law. Col. 2:13,14 "And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the Cross."
---Mark_V. on 5/1/11


Samuel, the seventh day belonged to the Lord ... The historical precedent for such a special observance was the creation week. Moses, in review of the Decalogue, also linked the observance of the Sabbath with Israel's Exodus from Egypt... Significantly, the command for the Sabbath is not repeated in the N.T. Whereas the other 9 are. In fact, it is nullified (Col. 2:16,17). Belonging especially to Israel under the Mosaic economy, the Sabbath could not apply to the beliver...Mark_V.

Agree with most of what you said. Second commandment not repeated in the New. Col 2 says not judge does not say done away with. Yes we live in a new economy but JESUS kept sabbath and for creation not just Israel. Jesus said it was made for man.
---Samuel on 4/30/11


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Mark_V.: "...the Sabbath could not apply to the believer of the church age, for he is living in a new economy."

The "new economy"? What does economy have to do with living the christian lifestyle? We are at the doorstep of the tribulation like none before it. Will you be able to live through it without turning your back on God?

Obey only nine of the ten commandments? Only a worldly christian would assume that the least of the commandments, the sabbath commandment, is not needed in today's world. Christians strongly need the sabbath commandment more today than any time in history.
---Steveng on 4/30/11


//What they are saying is that we are not under the condemnation of the Law. That is a far cry from saying the Old Testament is done away with.//

Totally Agreed.

It almost seems that it is used by Judaizers as a smokescreen to confuse the real issue...Christ Jesus.
---aka on 4/30/11


Samuel, I also agree we should obey God, I don't think that is something we cannot agree on. But what is forgotten in all this is the Spirit of God. Believers have the Spirit to guide them, teach them, influence them, convict them of sin. We are living under a new economy. That which is guided by Christ.
We know the Law was given to Israel, not to save them but to show their sins. New believers in Christ still sin, but they are convicted, when those under the Law are only condemn by the Law. Old Testament saints were also convicted, As David was after he sinned. He was also under Grace.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


Samuel, the seventh day belonged to the Lord and would not be a work day but one set apart for rest and for time devoted to the worship of Yahweh. Sabbath means "to rest or cease from work." The historical precedent for such a special observance was the creation week. Moses, in review of the Decalogue, also linked the observance of the Sabbath with Israel's Exodus from Egypt and specified that this was why Israel was to keep it (Deut. 5:12-15). Significantly, the command for the Sabbath is not repeated in the N.T. Whereas the other 9 are. In fact, it is nullified (Col. 2:16,17). Belonging especially to Israel under the Mosaic economy, the Sabbath could not apply to the believer of the church age, for he is living in a new economy.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


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Dear Mark_V.

Yes I am glad that people want to obey GOD. Yes I believe people should keep the Seventh day Sabbath. But that is not my whole point. People need to recognize the Ten Commandments as still in effect.

I do not see most people keeping any day as Sabbath. If a person says I believe the law of GOD defines sin and should be obeyed but that they see Sabbath as changed or not important that is a different discussion.

Then when I said that many here say the old Testament is done away I made a mistake.

I am glad we agree that the Old Testament is not done away with and that it condemns sinners. Now the Commandments of GOD still define sin and should be obeyed is my point. Do you disagree with that?
---Samuel on 4/29/11


Samuel, being that you are study member of the SDA's you wanted to talk about the Law. That is why you said:

"Why do so many people not know that JESUS is quoting the Old Testament that they say is done away with?"

To this day, I have not heard anyone say that. No one I know has said the Old Testament was done away with. What they are saying is that we are not under the condemnation of the Law. That is a far cry from saying the Old Testament is done away with. The Old Testament proves what God did for Israel and how they disobeyed. How they could not keep the Law. The Law condemned the sinner. It still does to those who are under the Law and not under Grace.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


Samuel 2: What you are now happy about is why do people not obey the Law since they are under grace. But people do want to keep the law as their tutor, not because of their own will, because God the Holy Spirit motivates us through convictions to obey the Law. But that is only a smoke Screen to introduce what really is the purpose,

"Behind all the talk of the Law and obedience is, why we don't do Saturday Sabbath."

That is the whole point. People under Grace are keeping the Sabbath, just not on Saturday. That is the whole problem. All the other stuff is only a smoke screen. This is the same thing Jerry, Francis, David and others go through a lot of talk of the Law to get to that point.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


//The Bible, the name of Jesus Christ, the blood of Jesus Christ, the cross, praise and worship, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. These are the ONLY things that will drive out demons.//

Mat 17:21 [But this kind never comes out except by prayer and fasting.]

even a little faith can move a spiritual mountain Mat 17:21.

But, it seems it is more important to what a 'bible-believin' pastor says than what Jesus Christ says.
---aka on 4/28/11


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I'm curious, Leslie, where you get your idea that the spiritual weapons I use will get me "nowhere" and only yours will work.
---Philomena on 4/28/11


I think few here are using the Spiritual weapons we have been given.

This warfare is our thoughts, our intention, and our speculations.

The BOC has focused on the word strongholds and have made this about addictions, but this is really misdirected.

Stongholds can be our anger at other denominations, our lack of trust in God to provide for our needs, our disobedience to the authority of our pastor and staff, our lack of desire to study God's word and pray, our lack of compassion for those who are still lost, and our unwillingness to get into real service for our King and Lord.

These are some of the strongholds God wants to destroy.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/28/11


John, whatever is truly an action of God in the Bible is born in love whether it hurts or not.

Philomena, I do believe that understanding and acknowledging that the power of Christ is in our physical food and there is transference if we allow.

I do believe that there is power in the name (truth) of Jesus, but the name in itself has little power but the superstition that it carries. otherwise, there would be a lot of supermen in Mexico.
---aka on 4/28/11


The ultimate commandment spoken of by Jesus is LOVE. The two commandments also spoken of by Jesus fall under LOVE. The ten commandments falls under the two commandments. The 613 laws of the old testament fall under the ten commandments. LOVE encompasses all the laws and is the only activity that gets a person into heaven.
---Steveng

True. Which is why the Two commandments on love were first written down by Moses and quoted by JESUS. Why do so many people not know that JESUS is quoting the Old Testament that they say is done away with? If they really believe that the OT is done away with then the Two commandments of love are gone too.
---Samuel on 4/27/11


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Satan can NOT cast out Satan (Matthew 12:25-29). If you try to cast out demons by crucifix's, holy water, Rosaries, or such things like this (which is "lucky charms" of idolatry), you will get no where. The demons may fool you by letting you think they are gone, but they will only be "out to lunch" and WILL be back bringing with them other demons 7x greater (Matthew 12:43-45). The Bible says to use the FULL armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-18), The Bible, the name of Jesus Christ, the blood of Jesus Christ, the cross, praise and worship, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. These are the ONLY things that will drive out demons.
---Leslie on 4/27/11


John Part 2: And since He is after all God, had many opinions at His disposal that He could have done, but decided that one. What God does is His right to do, but not our right. He does command us to love one another. He does command us to love Him with all our heart, soul and mind. But those are commands to us sinful man. Those commands belong to us, not to Him.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/11


trav .... So the Book is not for me, since I am not from one of the 13 tribes?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/26/11

Do we benefit from another's sucess or mistakes?
Is the GOD of Israel the creator GOD of everyone? Whether they acknowledge,obey,worship or not he is.
Will not acknowleging GOD's choice create a special position with GOD?
You being jealous of GOD's choice intend to take it up with GOD?
How big of an ole boy are ya?
Rom 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour,another unto dishonour?
Jer 18:6
O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
---Trav on 4/27/11


AKA, I agree, spiritual weapons are spiritual. Receiving the Holy Eucharist at Mass, Using the Name of Jesus, Rosary, Crucifix, etc, ARE spiritual weapons.

Now my use of the Name of Jesus can be a powerful spiritual weapon, or a curse word by someone who doesn't know better. Even receiving the Eucharist is subject to the opposite effect: 1Cor 11:28-29 says, "For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself."

"My flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed (John 6:55)."
St. Ignatius of Antioch, disciple of John, wrote: "They abstain from the Eucharist because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the Flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ"
---Philomena on 4/27/11


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John, I also agree. But I believe the Bible is a book about a Holy God, and sinful man. God does not treat every person with the same kind of love we know. People continue to say that God does not want anyone in hell. If He didn't want anyone there, no one would be there. If He didn't put the curse, no descendant of Adam would be condemned.
And what about when Herod wanted to kill baby Jesus, an angel came to Joseph, told him to take the child and Mary and flee to Egypt and stay there, yet allowed or permitted the sinful act of Herod to go through, and all the children were slaughtered. Where was the love for those children? Since God is God, He could have changed the heart of Herod as He did many times with the enemies of Israel.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/11


Actually, John, I did not overlook the word "always" and used it intentionally because God is Love. You said: "Show me the Love Jesus showed to the Pharissees or the Merchants selling at the Temple." Wasn't Jesus showing His love for His Father? In His anger, was He not dramatically making a point about the wrong things to do in our relationship with the Father?
---Philomena on 4/27/11


The ultimate commandment spoken of by Jesus is LOVE. The two commandments also spoken of by Jesus fall under LOVE. The ten commandments falls under the two commandments. The 613 laws of the old testament fall under the ten commandments. LOVE encompasses all the laws and is the only activity that gets a person into heaven.
---Steveng on 4/26/11


Ephesians 6....period.
---larry on 4/26/11


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AKA, The key word was "ALWAYS".

You overlook it.
---John on 4/26/11


John 15:12 "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."
John 13:34 "As I have loved you, so you also should love one another."

About Jesus' Glory: John 13: 31 "When he had left, Jesus said, "Now is the Son of Man glorified, and God is glorified in him.

As for Christian charity: "A slave of the Lord should not quarrel, but should be gentle with everyone, able to teach, tolerant, correcting opponents with kindness." 2 Tim 2:24

"Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence." 1 Pe 3,15
---Philomena on 4/26/11


trav .... So the Book is not for me, since I am not from one of the 13 tribes?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/26/11


The Bible is NOT a book about Love.
IT's A BOOK ABOUT THE GLORIFICATION OF THE FATHER ONLY!
---John on 4/25/11

See your point John. King David hated GOD's enemies. He could...they were GOD's enemies.Ps 139:21

Found the book to be about GOD's love for Israel. All thirteen units of it. He married them. He put them away...said he would remarry them. Left a seldom discussed,perfect record of how this is possible. Without breaking his own marriage law no less.
This Book we hold was written by Israel to Israel,for Israel.
For GOD's Glory as you say.Ps139:21
Isa 48:11
For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? I will not give my glory unto another.
---Trav on 4/26/11


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//The Bible is NOT a book about Love.//

Teacher/Rabbi/Pastor John,

Is not the same author of the Gospel of John, the writer who wrote the following?

1Jn 4:8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

1Jn 4:16 So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

Love is not tolerance. Misinterpretation and misuse equates to liberalism by some. The gospel of peace and love is a Revelation. However, it is not for our use to cherry pick for our own thoughts and tirades.

God is Love. If you say any different, then you deny the Bible.
---aka on 4/26/11


Jesus always taught love. Where is the love in your response to me?
---Philomena on 4/25/11
NO! HE DID NOT ALWAYS TEACH LOVE!!!

And certainly had NONE for the abominations you worship and described.

The Bible is NOT a book about Love.

Then what is it a book about John???

IT's A BOOK ABOUT THE GLORIFICATION OF THE FATHER ONLY!

Show me the Love Jesus showed to the Pharissees or the Merchants selling at the Temple.

THEN...

Explain the Thousands of G-dly Slaughter/Chopping people in pieces etc. describe in the OT. How about Jael driving a tent peg right through Sisero skull!

LOVE PEACE IS IN THE SCRIPTURE OF LIBERALISM (A SATANIC FACADE!)
---John on 4/25/11


John, I'm so sorry to hear your words that sound to me like major sarcasm and some sort of personal hurt from the past. Jesus always taught love. Where is the love in your response to me?
---Philomena on 4/25/11


Our constant grilling of each other has turned into quite a grill all in itself.
---aka on 4/24/11


Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

A good grillin is hard to beat. Don't neglect the other side and plenty of garlic for seasoning. Raw meat.....just not the same as a good grillin.
Never see milk at a barbeque....hmmm.

Hebrews 12:8
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
---Trav on 4/25/11


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aka, you are correct because most people who answer here are suppose to be christian, but even the small things of the faith they do not know. How could they possibly go again the devil and demons when they do not even know the basics of the faith? The devil has had a lifetime to learn, he will eat them like soup. His already eating some of those who answer with bitterness in their hearts. He is enjoying them. Samuel's passages show that the weapons are only for our defense.
---mary on 4/25/11


Mary stated: the weapons of warfare are for our defense only. They are not so that we can go out there and fight the demons and devils.

I agree that we are not modified dragon slayers in Christ. We are peacemakers. But, sometimes to instill peace, you have to breakthrough whatever the issue is not back down in defense.

Nevertheless, when you look in Scriptures, it is always good to look for witness. There are six (number of man) defensive weapons...these protect the front but not the back. We are not complete in the Lord unless we utilize the help of each other (6) and the weapon of prayer (7). 7 is Rest in the Lord.
---aka on 4/25/11


The weapons are not of this world. The ultimate weapon is the words of God.
---Steveng on 4/24/11


//Spiritual Warfare Weapons:

Holy Mass and receiving the gift of God in the Holy Eucharist, Using the Holy Name of Jesus, The Rosary, A Crucifix, Holy Water, The Divine Mercy Chaplet prayer.//

They're Always After Me Lucky Charms!

Pink Hearts, Orange Stars, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, and Blue Diamonds...

They're Magically Superstitious!

Spiritual weapons are spiritual.
---aka on 4/24/11


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Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

The main weapons of our warfare are listed in this passage. The most important being. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

We look to the Bible as the final authority.
---Samuel on 4/24/11


Spiritual Warfare Weapons:

Holy Mass and receiving the gift of God in the Holy Eucharist.

Using the Holy Name of Jesus!

The Rosary: meditating on the mysteries of the Gospels.

A Crucifix.

Holy Water.

The Divine Mercy Chaplet prayer.
---Philomena on 4/24/11

AND OTHER PAGAN CHARMS! HOW ABOUT GARLIC ON YOUR DOOR?

OR ICONS OF YOUR gods(AKA: Saints)

LET'S ADD...
The Infallible Pope.
Padre Pio (with his stigmata)
Mary (Queen of the Universe/Gods Mother)
Saint Pope John.

Or Go to...

Guatalupe
Lordes
Fatima and Pray to the Blessed Mother.

Don't foregt your sacrements (i.e Charms and beads). And your other gods (i.e Patron Saints)
---John on 4/24/11


One stronghold is ignorance of Chursh history, yet presuming to make statements about it.
---Cluny on 4/24/11


Trav - //I've enjoyed your steak "meat", ground or otherwise several times...//

Our constant grilling of each other has turned into quite a grill all in itself.

"I like mine with lettuce and tomata.
Heinz 57 and French-fried potatas.
Big kosher pickle and a cold [root] beer.
Well, good God almighty, which way do I steer for my...

Cheeseburger in Paradise"
---aka on 4/24/11


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Donna, the weapons of warfare are for our defense only. They are not so that we can go out there and fight the demons and devils. We are not told to go out looking for trouble. Because if we do, we will find more then we can handle. The devil is much wiser then us and more powerful, we need Christ to protect us. Yes, greater is He that is in me then he who is in the world. But most people don't have all the weapons ready.
---mary on 4/24/11


Spiritual Warfare Weapons:

Holy Mass and receiving the gift of God in the Holy Eucharist.

Using the Holy Name of Jesus!

The Rosary: meditating on the mysteries of the Gospels.

A Crucifix.

Holy Water.

The Divine Mercy Chaplet prayer.
---Philomena on 4/24/11


...where saying of 'i got your back' came from.

prayer - one offensive weapon and completed the defensive battle garb. Rest in that.
---aka on 4/19/11

Aka, good to come by your post cafe. I've enjoyed your steak "meat", ground or otherwise several times.

Was protected/hedged by prayer this week. I applied/relied in prayer one day this week....as you, posted well.
And gave/give Thanks for the delivering.
Psalm 141:4
Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.
Proverbs 1:31
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
---Trav on 4/22/11


Donna - Do not listen to Mark V. You know the truth, so you go girl. I ALWAYS try to line EVERYTHING up with the Bible, and since you know Mary K. Baxters material, you can honestly say it lines up with the Bible COMPLETELY and confirms what the Bible already says.
---Leslie on 4/22/11


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Donna5535, I would suggest to you not to spend your money on worthless material and use your discernment to see that what she writes most of it is useless and will confuse you if you are not mature in the faith.

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation"
2 Peter 1:20.

We are reminded by many warnings in Scripture to test what someone says with Scripture and what she has to say does not line up with the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 4/22/11


Leslie, thank you. I have her book on the divine revelation on hell...I didn't know about this book..I will look into getting it, thank you so very much.
---Donna5535 on 4/21/11


Donna - If you want to know more about this subject, I got my info. from a book called "A Divine Revelation of Spiritual Warfare" by Mary K. Baxter. It is a wonderful read.
---Leslie on 4/21/11


Leslie, I like these alot...I am going to copy them down and put them on an index card and carry them around with me and memorize all that you've said here. I love it, thank you.
---Donna5535 on 4/20/11


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Stongholds are anything that controls you (sin, addictions, generational curses, demons, etc.). Our weapons are found in Ephesians 6:13-17 - Belt of Truth (logos - written Word of God (Bible)), Sword of the Spirit (Rhema - spoken, revelation Word of God (Jesus Christ), Shoes of the Gospel of Peace (Preaching the Gospel to set the captives free), Breastplate of Righteousness (Christ's Righteousness), Shield of Faith (Trust and Obey God), Helmet of Salvation (Renew your mind, and get the mind of Christ), Knee Pads of Prayer and Fasting. Others are the Blood of Jesus, the Name of Jesus, and Praise.
---Leslie on 4/20/11


donna,by definition a fortification,a place of defense,easy answer living in obidience,prayer,the word,aka bible,just to name a few.now bottom line for me is my strength,comes from himhe is my strength.remember when satan tempted jesus,out lord used the word to defend himself against that temptation,my favorite man does not live by bread alone,but by every word that procedith from the mouth of God.
---tom2 on 4/20/11


truth, righteousness, preparation of the gospel of peace, faith, salvation, and the word of God

six (number of man) defensive weapons all to protect the front. soldier's battle uniform did not protect the back. so, they would fight close together protecting back of one another ...where saying of 'i got your back' came from.

prayer - one offensive weapon and completed the defensive battle garb. Rest in that.

interesting note- enemies would fire flaming arrows at opponents, so the smart ones would soak the leather shields in water. this would make a very heavy shield but extinguish fiery darts of the enemy.
---aka on 4/19/11


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