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Jesus' Gift Of Life

Should we celebrate Jesus' Gift of Life? Some say we should not celebrate His death or Resurrection, but only the passover. In that case, would we not be ignoring what Jesus did for us?

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\\I find your rhertoric offensive. I am in agreement here wiht most of the posters. Which Mark and Cluny may find amazing. :)\\

Not really. I've noticed that for the most part, you're reasonable, Samuel.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/4/11


Dear Leslie

I find your rhertoric offensive. I am in agreement here wiht most of the posters. Which Mark and Cluny may find amazing. :)

But you are making a problem where there is no problem. Your history is also flawed.
---Samuel on 5/4/11


\\G-d gave us His Holy Days. Jesus was Born on Sukkot (First Fruits/Booths) during the High Holy Days(AKA:10-days of Awe)from Chanakah to Yom Kippur(Day of Judgement).\\

Obviously, you know nothing about the Jewish festal calendar, John. But should that surprise us?

And the angels in heaven sang and celebrated the first Christmas, according to Luke 2.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/4/11


I agree with everything Mark says here.

When I celebrate Christ's birth, even though ut may be at an innaccurate date, I celebrate the earthly coming of my Redeemer.

On Good Friday, even though the date may wander about a bit, and not always tie in with the Passover date, I celebrate His sacrifice for me, and on Easter day I celbrate His Resurrection, not rabbits or some mythical pagan god.

It seems that the anti's actually think these pagan Gods are more powerful than God
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


You people who are against celebrating the resurrection of Christ(Easter) are self-righteous legalist's.

If your faith is weak and your conscience is bothered by observing Easter then don't observe it.

Romans 14 NIV
4 Who are you to judge someone elses servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5 One man considers one day more sacred than another, another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God, and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
---poopsey on 5/2/11




\Statements like what you have made is where I get that you are ANTI-JEW - which means you do NOT belong to God.
---Cluny on 5/1/11

We've all been taught that the Anti-Christ jews are the chosen people. Now just because they say they are jews,does not make them Judean....so perception is necessary.
Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 2:9. Says similar about Jews.
---Trav on 5/2/11


John, I studied the meaning of the death and resurrection very carefully and I find that it is a good reason to celebrate that day.
You don't want to because some pagan god you have learned of, had the same day.
I don't know about other gods, only One I know. Almighty God. I believe you are blind because you do not see why Christians celebrate that day. Jesus does not take a backseat to any gods. If I studied the other gods, I would be like the Romans who worship them, since they knew what they represented and so do you.
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


\\IF YOU STUDY THEIR MEANING, YOU EYES WILL BE OPENED!!! \\

Jesus told the Bible experts of His day, "Because you say, 'I see,' therefore your sin remains."

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/1/11


You know John its good for a man to fear GOD. I know you fear him. So much youre afraid of writing God, right. But by the way, how do you pronounce that - in G-d? Or do you just go MMmmmm?

Think Im making fun of you. Well, what do you think youll say when he tells you, thats not my name?
I dont know who G-d is.

You think G-d has any use for a talent?
Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

Why do you think Im saying this, because youre sinless?
No! Because you think your sinning and so you are.
God bless you John
---TheSeg on 5/2/11


So does that mean - we should cancel all Christmas activities including Christmas services and Nativity scenes?

YES!!!!

Or should we just move them to Sept.?---cjmybad on 5/1/11

NO!!!

G-d gave us His Holy Days. Jesus was Born on Sukkot (First Fruits/Booths) during the High Holy Days(AKA:10-days of Awe)from Chanakah to Yom Kippur(Day of Judgement).

He Died on Passover/Feast of the Unleaven Bread

IF YOU STUDY THEIR MEANING, YOU EYES WILL BE OPENED!!!

YOU WILL KNOW WHY YOU LEFT THE MANMADE PSUEDO/PAGAN FAITH THEY CALL "CHRISTIANITY"

ITS FALSE!!!

WILL YOU OBEY/WORSHIP PAGAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE(LIKE THEM) OR G-D???
---John on 5/1/11




\\Statements like what you have made is where I get that you are ANTI-JEW - which means you do NOT belong to God.\\

You don't actually think salvation is to be found in that religion called Judaism, do you?

And if you think I'm deceived, Leslie, that means I'm closer to the truth than any of us suspected.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/1/11


John you said "You will see Jesus celebrating THE PASSOVER only! NO EASTER NO CHRISTMAS. He was born September." So does that mean - we should cancel all Christmas activities including Christmas services and Nativity scenes? Or should we just move them to Sept.? Won't the secular crowd think it's crazy to do that?
---cjmybad on 5/1/11


Leslie, it is you who believe in pagan holidays and allow them to govern your life and way of thinking. I don't even follow when pagan holidays are for they do not interest me, but they sure interest you. I also don't call God a liar because He never said not to celebrate the resurrection of Christ. If you can find one passage then show it. Otherwise keep your pagan holidays to yourself. We don't celebrate a pagan god, we celebrate the resurrection of Christ. I sure don't wish to know what pagan gods you have learned of or what they did.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


leslie-- No one is "condemning themselves". YOU are the one doing the condemning. Is it your place to do that?

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
---Donna66 on 4/30/11


Leslie you are not makng sense. Mark and Cluny are not saying they do not believe the Bible or that they reject JESUS CHRIST. They disagree with your understanding. Instead of trying to show them where they are wrong from your viewpoint you just insult them.

Insults prove nothing. JESUS died for all of us. We should treat each other with love.
---Samuel on 4/30/11


Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him, How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.

But if ye had known...

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Col 2:2-23
---TheSeg on 4/30/11


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We should celebrate Jesus!
Celebrate His life, His death, His Resurrection. He is our Passover!
I can't believe this is even a point of contention between Christians.
Psa 34:1-3 I will bless the LORD at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth.
My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad. O magnify the LORD with me, and let us exalt his name together.


...even if we don't do it the same way or on the same day!
---Donna66 on 5/1/11


\\Mark V. and Cluny - Clearly you both continue to ARGUE what the Bible says is, and call God a liar.\\

How have I done this?

Please be specific.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/1/11


Mark V. and Cluny - Clearly you both continue to ARGUE what the Bible says is, and call God a liar. I can see that both of you would rather follow after pagan gods and be in IDOLATRY than serve the one true God. The Bible says thou shall have NO other gods but Me (God Almighty). So because you both have broken this, you condemn yourselves.
---Leslie on 4/30/11


\\BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME IS THE "UNFORGIVABLE SIN"\\

Is it the Holy Spirit making you react the way you do to the three words, "Christ is risen" by calling this "pagan repetition" and "baal worship"?

Or calling it "voodoo" or "santeria" as you have done on this very thread?

Can you demonstrate that the Holy Spirit is making you say things like this?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/30/11


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Leslie, I'm again sorry to disagree with you.
"Take eat, this is My body" Jesus thus transformed the last Passover into the first observance of the Lord's supper. He is the central antitype in both ceremonies, being represented symbolically by both the paschal lamb of the Passover and the elements in the communion service. "My blood of the New Covenant" The blood of the New Covenant is not an animals blood, but Christ's own blood, shed for the remission of sins.
The theme is the Passover. Not the resurrection. He had not died yet. He spoke of His Fathers kingdom, but the disciples had no clue He was going to die and rise again even though Jesus had told them already.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


When you don't know the truth as it's written in the Bible - how are we supposed to believe any of it's real?
---cjmybad on 4/29/11

By simply reading The Bible yourself!

Read it as if it were a book you know nothing about. without any prejudice from any sources secular/religious, including your own pre-judgment of what it says.

THEN YOU WILL SEE WHO IS LIEING HERE AN ARE APOSTATES. COVERING THEIR MANMADE TRADITIONS. AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH.

You will see Jesus celebrating THE PASSOVER only! NO EASTER NO CHRISTMAS. He was born September.

I highly reccomend you get the NASB REFERENCE Bible for your studies

GOOD LUCK AND G-D BLESS!
---John on 4/29/11


Mark V. - Christ and the disciples celebrated the death and ressurrection of Christ in Passover in the Lord's (Last) Supper (Matt. 26:17-19 & 26-29, Mark 14:12-16 & 22-25, Luke 22:7-20). When does it say it was (Easter or Passover)? It says Passover. "This is My body and my blood" = death of Christ. "I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom" = ressurrection of Christ, and the marriage supper of the Lamb at the rapture and 1000 year reign of Christ. This may be the FIRST time you have been taught this, so now you know.
---Leslie on 4/29/11


Leslie, Cluny, Alan, John - if you guys can't even agree on something as significant as Easter/Passover and be civil about it - how do you expect the rest of the world to view your religion? When you don't know the truth as it's written in the Bible - how are we supposed to believe any of it's real?
---cjmybad on 4/29/11


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Leslie, how could Christ and the apostles celebrate the resurrection of Christ? Christ was still alive. That we do and that the purpose for it is to celebrate the passover in no way say's that it is wrong. Who cares what date it is so long as we have the right intend. It's what is in our hearts that matters to God. That we do in remembrance of Him is what matters. If your conscience tells you not to, because you think it's wrong, then don't do it. But don't try to tell my conscience what is right or wrong, for the Spirit speaks to our conscience. But celebrating it to me is not wrong. The other customs that go with Easter I do not care for. If you feel bad about Easter, then don't celebrate it. I'm not going to judge you.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


To say that celebrating Easter is paganism is false. Some think of this day as Holy others do not. That is fine let each be convinced in the own mind and not judge others.

To judge others because you hold a view on passover and easter is not biblical.

Yes Easter over 2000 years ago had a different meaning then today. Today it celbrate that JESUS CHIST is risen today.

Each day of the week is named after pagan gods in english. Do you call them by their pagan names?
---Samuel on 4/29/11


If you celebrate Easter, you are in fact worshipping a Pagan god, and NOT Jesus. In celebrating Passover, you worship the one true God in Christ by celebrating His death and ressurrection.
---Leslie on 4/29/11


We do celebrate the death and resurection of jesus very often:

Every time one gets baptized :
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

and every time we have the Lord's supper:
1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Those are biblical, the easter and christmas thing is not
---francis on 4/29/11


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No. I am trying to annoy Satan. And it is working. You are getting annoy God (oops, forgot "G-d" according to you)

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/28/11

Ignatius

AS THE LORD SAID...

ridiculing me IS ONE THING...

BUT

BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME IS THE "UNFORGIVABLE SIN"


AND... no amount of Holy Water, or Beads, or pilgrimage to Fatima will undue your sin.

It now awaits The Judgement of G-d!!!
---John on 4/29/11


Mark V. - Christ's ressurrection is NOT Pagan, but it is celebrated during Passover, NOT Easter. The death AND ressurrection of Christ was celebrated during Passover by Christ, His disciples, and the early Apostles. Easter was NOT celebrated at all by any of them.
---Leslie on 4/29/11


Eloy, great answer. Glad you brought that up.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


Alan, celebrate Jesus' life. I suppose the NonMessianic Jews do not celebrate the Messiah because they do not believe in him that he has already come to Bethlehem of Judea over 2,000 years ago, so they are still looking for him to come: "He came to his own, but his own received him not, but they did unto him whatsoever they lusted."
---Eloy on 4/29/11


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Leslie, you said:

"ALL of them celebrated Passover and told us to do the same. NONE of them celebrated Easter, why because it is Pagan"

So what you are saying is that Christ resurrection is pagan. That Christians are celebrating a pagan God. But you must have the wrong god in the calender. For Christ is God. And we celebrate Him for resurrecting. If that is pagan then you need to get yourself saved. For you do not know the God of Scripture. You provide no Scripture to indicate that God ordered us not to celebrate the Resurrection of His Son. Not one passage.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


John,

Christ is Risen!

Rejoice!

Christ is Risen!

"Ignatius, are you casting some kind of spell on me??? (Voodoo/Santeria?)"

No. I am trying to annoy Satan. And it is working. You are getting annoy because we are proclaiming joyfully the Gospel.

Christ is Risen!

"Do you know that repeating the same thing 1000s of time makes loses it meaning"

"Get thee behind me, Satan" (Matthew 16:23).

"Each of the four living creatures..... never stop saying: Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,who was, and is, and is to come." (Revelation 8-9)

God (oops, forgot "G-d" according to your traditions) doesn't mind.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/28/11


Ignatius, are you casting some kind of spell on me??? (Voodoo/Santeria?)

How many times do you/Cluny have to repeat this Pagan Ritual in order to fulfill your obedience to the Patriarch?

Do you need to put ashes on your heads? It sound like the 2000 prayers to Mary the RCC do.

How long do we need to hear you and Cluny sound like Puppets repeating a mantra, in the same way The Pagans did to Baal. Remember how Elijah laughed at them.
Do you know why he laughed?

Do you know that repeating the same thing 1000s of time makes loses it meaning, its reverence, in fact it's a mockery of Christ! BUT then again it's not Christ you seek to Please, but the Patriarch, Bishops and Priests of your Pagan Cult that you care about.
---John on 4/28/11


Mark V. & Cluny - Statements like what you have made is where I get that you are ANTI-JEW - which means you do NOT belong to God. Jesus was a Jew, His disciples were Jews, the early Apostles were Jews - ALL of them celebrated Passover and told us to do the same. NONE of them celebrated Easter, why because it is Pagan - and ALL of them warned Christians to stay away from Paganism and Idolatry - which Easter is. Passover celebrates the death and ressurrection of Christ, Easter celebrates eggs and chicks which have to do with fertility, NOT Jesus. You both think you are right and God is wrong, because you both think you are God.
---Leslie on 4/28/11


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Leslie, again you are wrong about what you say, You said,

Cluny and Mark V. - 1st Mark V. - Myself and others have given you several scriptures that say that Easter is NOT of God, but you do not want to hear that, because you want to continue to say you are right and God is wrong"

No where did God say not to celebrate His resurrection. God is never wrong. Can you provide one passage where He commands us under grace to not celebrate His resurrection? I bet you cannot. I will be waiting for those passages you seem to know about.
If celebrating Christ Resurrection is breaking the law of God, show me.
---Mark_V. on 4/28/11


John,

Christ is Risen!

Christ said to love our enemies. I love you always, John! Christ does as well.

Christ is Risen!

Christ is Risen!

Christ is Risen!

REJOICE!

Christ is Risen!

Agape!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/26/11


\\Cluny will defend his Ortho Pagan Ritualistic Cult to the death...\\

John, please tell me what our pagan rituals are. Be specific.

**Also, as I mentioned before, in Acts 12:4 it does NOT say Easter (unless you go with the Message Bible, which is NOT a true translation, but something that is NOT of God), in any other Bible it says PASSOVER.**

Wrong, Leslie.

In the KJV, it says "Easter." I gave a direct cut and paste from it.

Or are you saying that the KJV is not a true translation?

In the mean time, you and John just keep on blessing me.

Chrit is risen!
---Cluny on 4/26/11


Leslie,

Cluny will defend his Ortho Pagan Ritualistic Cult to the death...

EVEN TO HIS 2ND DEATH!!!

Cluny does NOT fear (or know) G-d.

He only fears His Pope and Bishops (AKA: Patriarchs)

He worships and fears the Orthodox Church and its MidEVIL Traditions ....NOT G-D!

He would never leave it for anything! Including G-d Himself. He knows better! He knows the Truth!

Yet he fears Men, more than he fears G-d!

AND G-D SAID TO CLUNY...

FEAR NOT THE 1ST DEATH, BUT THE 2ND DEATH WHICH IS YOUR JUDGEMENT!!!
---John on 4/26/11


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Cluny - Yes, we HAVE given you scripture. Either you REFUSE to go with the Bible, or you are just plain stupid. Also, as I mentioned before, in Acts 12:4 it does NOT say Easter (unless you go with the Message Bible, which is NOT a true translation, but something that is NOT of God), in any other Bible it says PASSOVER. You would know that if you really read the Bible, rather than going with what your Pastor (who is wrong) said. I challenge you to look up Acts 12:4 in a NIV or NKJV - does it say Easter, or does it say Passover. If you look it up, it says Passover, NOT Easter.
---Leslie on 4/26/11


\\Myself and others have given you several scriptures that say that Easter is NOT of God, \\

No, you didn't.

You just want credit for doing so.

Did you notice that I showed you where Easter DOES appear in the Book of Acts?

How does that fit into your world view?
---Cluny on 4/26/11


Cluny and Mark V. - 1st Mark V. - Myself and others have given you several scriptures that say that Easter is NOT of God, but you do not want to hear that, because you want to continue to say you are right and God is wrong - which is IDOLATRY. 2nd Cluny - Look at that scripture again in a KJV or NKJV and it says PASSOVER, NOT Easter, again you have it WRONG. It seems the both of you would rather put yourself as God, and claim you are right, rather than let God be God and say He is right.
---Leslie on 4/26/11


When God is talking to the children of Israel, it is now the CHURCH that is Israel. If you say you belong to Christ, you are the church (a.k.a Israel). Jesus was the FINAL lamb of sacrifice, and now we are to present ourselves living sacrifices. The blood on the top and sides of the door are the cross and the blood of Christ applied to the door of our hearts. The circumcision now is of the heart. ALL of this applies to PASSOVER (Jesus), NOT Easter - which celebrates the god of fertility in (eggs, chicks, and bunnies) and NOT Jesus.
---Leslie on 4/26/11


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John, I read all the passages over and over and could not find anywhere where God told the people of Israel not to celebrate the Resurrection of Christ. In fact Christ had not even arrived.
1. Those words were for Israel, not for those who are saved by grace through faith, Jews and Gentiles.
2. They were under the law of God. We are no longer under the Law.
3. Christ had not come yet.
4. Those who celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ, are not worshiping other gods. They are celebrating the death and resurrection of Christ.
So where is the contradiction?
---Mark_V. on 4/26/11


John ... Read back and you will find you hsve misquoted Mark.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/25/11
I dont see where Alan. I copied and pasted his post.
---John on 4/25/11


You don't actually think it condemns observing the Resurrection of Christ, do you?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/25/11

No CLuny! You missed the teaching of the text.

G-d condemns the replacement of HIS celebration of HIS Risen Son (P-A-S-S-O-V-E-R)

With the PAGAN ritual(Easter) which you observe and defend even against the Throne of G-d Himself.

And so you defend your Ortho Traditions and practices no matter what! Even if it means going to Hell and burning!

THINK ABOUT IT!
---John on 4/25/11


John ... Read back and you will find you hsve misquoted Mark.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/25/11


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\\DIDN'T I???\\

Nope.

You don't actually think it condemns observing the Resurrection of Christ, do you?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/25/11


If you find one passage where it does contradict I will hear you.
---Mark_V. on 4/25/11

Well I just posted it MarkV.

DIDN'T I???

Deuteronomy 12:28-32:
---John on 4/25/11


\\Mark V. - If Easter is Biblical, then why is it not mentioned at all in the Bible?\\

Acts 12:4 KJV
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him, intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
---Cluny on 4/25/11


Leslie, no where did I state that Easter was biblical. Or that it was found in Scripture. I said it does not contradict Scripture in anyway. If you find one passage where it does contradict I will hear you.
---Mark_V. on 4/25/11


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Mark V. - If Easter is Biblical, then why is it not mentioned at all in the Bible? It is mentioned 0 times - explain that. Also, if Passover is not Biblical, then why is it mentioned in the N.T. that Jesus and His disciples celebrated, and that the early Apostles celebrated and wanted us to continue to celebrate (1 Corinthians 5:7-8)? Who is right, the Bible or your man-made traditions?
---Leslie on 4/25/11


Leslie ... Yes You are quite right that Jesus did not celebrate Easter

Not really surprising, though, for He had not even died at that time, nor of course has be been resurrected!
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/24/11


CONSIDER G-Ds OWN WORDS...

Deuteronomy 12:28-32: Observe and obey all these words which I command you when you dwell in their land, take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.

" YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD IN THAT WAY!!! for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods. Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it, you shall not add to it nor take away from it.

God tells Christians to never mix what is Godly with what is pagan-or truth with the false! DO NOT let men tell you that what God says makes no difference.

IT DOES!!!
---John on 4/24/11


\\Cluny - As usual you continue to be DECIEVED and walk in IDOLATRY. I go ONLY with God and His Word.
---Leslie on 4/23/11\\

Keep on blessing me, Leslie.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/24/11


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the death and resurrection of christ should be believed,they are a apart of the belief process,actually what we are doing by having communion is what the lord said to do to celebrate his life.
---tom2 on 4/25/11


Leslie, as I told Cluny, traditions of man that go against Scripture no one should follow. And there are many. Easter does not go against Scripture. It is a tradition of man, but in no way does it contradict the Word of God. If people make a tradition that does not go against the Word of God, and helps in someway to bring Christians together, what is wrong with that? When a person begins to tell others it is not in the Bible you are trying to go by the letter of the law and no one does the letter of law. Not even those that impose that on others. If the Holy Spirit guides someone to come up with a day that will give glory to Christ, what's wrong with that?
---Mark_V. on 4/25/11


by doing what he said we must do,then we are celebrating,loving our ememies,loving one another,not judging and arguing as is so prevalent
---tom2 on 4/23/11


We donot celebrate easter, but we did celebrate Passover. We remember what Jesus taught the disciples & what God brought through Jesus as his messenger. Jesus was from a jewish family therefor they were celebrating the passover, to be a disciple & follow Jesus means to celebrate the passover,but not what the Jews do now, but remembering jesus. I call it the memorial. though i no lngoer am a witness I still keep it in memory for Jesus.
---candice on 4/23/11


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Cluny - As usual you continue to be DECIEVED and walk in IDOLATRY. I go ONLY with God and His Word.
---Leslie on 4/23/11


Is Easter mentioned in the N.T.? I looked up the word Easter in my Bible concordanance (my big one), and do you know how many times the word is mentioned in the Bible - you guessed it 0. I challenge you all to look up in all 4 gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) and in the rest of the N.T. (Acts to Revelation) and see if the last supper Jesus and His disciples and the early Apostles celebrated was Easter or Passover. Also, look at 1 Corinthians 5:7b-8 - it says Christ is our Passover and we are to KEEP this feast. If the Bible does NOT talk about Easter, but ONLY Passover - then we should NOT be celebrating Easter, but ONLY Passover.
---Leslie on 4/23/11


I just read something interesting.

It was the Moravian Brethren who came up with the innovation of a sunrise service to celebrate the Resurrection of Christ.

This began in the 1700's.

This practice was unknown in Christianity before this time.

Can anyone show any historical connection or continuity with pagan practices now?

John?
---Cluny on 4/23/11


Cluny ... You know who they are! You have already debated the issue with them.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/22/11

And was severely defeated at every turn of his lame and feeble arguements against The Passover.

Yes indeed... I do believe Clunys remembers!
---John on 4/23/11


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Acts 20:16
For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.

1 Corinthians 16:8
But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.


I find these scriptures interesting. Paul was not speaking of the original day of Pentecost 50 days after Christ rose from the dead.
---kathr4453 on 4/24/11


Alan, I would say we celebrate Jesus by forgiving any and all people like He did, on the cross. Do this all the time (c: And live His love for any and all people, not only forgiving them, in celebration of His resurrection.

About ones saying Easter Sunday is a pagan holiday > Satan is a thief. No day belongs to Satan. Jesus is the Lord of all > every day is His day. And we can take any day and use it for His purpose, like Jesus took us who were so pagan and uses us His way, instead! We can use "Easter" for God's intention! God bless you (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/23/11


"May everyday be a celebration (not ceremony) of Him...our New life in Him."
I concur completely. He was delivered up to free us and raised to justify us.
If that does not warrant celebrating, what does?
For "indeed Christ, 'our Passover', was sacrificed for us. And if Christ is not risen, [our] faith is futile, [we] are still in [our] sins!" But, all praises to the Father Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, was buried, and rose again the third day... "1Cr 5:7>15:17,3,4 (NKJV)
---joseph on 4/23/11


what he did is part of believing who he is,so in my mind its impossible to separate them knowing he is the son of God,knowing that God sent him ti die in our place,knowing that he rose from the grave are foundations of our faith,as is the fact that salvation is a gift from God offered to whosoever will call upon the name of the lord.finally it really is all a part of the message,so we really must celebrate all of it,not just parts.
---tom2 on 4/22/11


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---Cluny on 4/22/11


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Yes in a sense I believe we would be ignoring what Jesus did for us to go back to a thing that prophetically points to it.
---Oneundrum on 4/22/11


Alan,

Of all the good things that I have read on here and ever lived, your question brings it all together.

Passover and any other celebration based of biblical practices are only a shadow of things to come. His Life, Death, and Resurrection opened His Love to whosoever will believe and follow. This love that was available to a certain people is available to all. Therefore, we can become one again as Elohim designed it from the beginning.

Thank you and bless you. May everyday be a celebration (not ceremony) of Him...our New life in Him.
---aka on 4/22/11


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I did. Everything they are saying is either false or half-truths.
---Cluny on 4/22/11


I'd like to know who these "some" are that say this. They clearly do NOT know what they are talking about. We should come out from these and be separate, that we be not partakers of their plagues.

The celebration of His death and Resurrection IS the celebration of His gift of life for us.

You will see this if you read ancient sermons and homilies.
---Cluny on 4/22/11


We are to celebrate the Passover ONLY, but with Jesus being the final Passover lamb. Easter is Pagan and celebrates the fertility god Istar, NOT Jesus. Go to Passion For Truth Ministries, and click under "Truth or Tradition" DVD.
---Leslie on 4/22/11


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